Interesting report. The Catholic Church, while in public acting
contrite about decades (centuries?) of systematically covered-up abuse,
is in private acting just like the corporation it really is. Churches
with enormous amounts of assets are pre-emptively declaring bankruptcy
so that they can
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
Sorry. I don't get it. Perhaps if you define simly closely.
Continuing my cafe musings on the curious things one finds
out there in the spiritual cybersmorgasbord, it has struck
me lately that almost every site or forum I read is full
of posts that can only be described as spiritual practice
as product.
That is, they are posts about spiritual teachers,
The verses cited above, as well as other accounts in the Gospels, related that
Jesus used various outward means of transmitting the cosmic energy: laying on
of hands, divinely charged words of healing , transmission of energy by will
through the ether, powerful thoughts broadcast to the one in
yifuxero:
You're confusing the issues...
The author of this site, Timothy Conway, is obviously
an Amma devotee. It is very unseemly to criticize and
categorize the new self-help teachers without revealing
your own affiliations - it's dishonest.
It's also ridiculous to lump a Waking Down teacher in with neo-Advaita, as
Waking Down is diametrically opposed to neo-Advaita's dismissal and disregard
of the finite I/me story.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifux...@... wrote:
thx, Pema Chodron actually made the network
On Jun 28, 2010, at 2:31 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
Sex at Dawn: Why monogamy goes against our nature
Thanks, Barry~~downloaded a sample to my Kindle...
a subject that has long fascinated me.
Sal
Funny you should bring this up. A few weeks ago Michelle referred to her
husband as a Kenyan and in April as having gone to her husband's home country,
Kenya. Maybe we can have these accusations finally cleared up in 2012, and if
they are true, I wonder if jail time would be appropriate for a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
Continuing my cafe musings on the curious things one finds
out there in the spiritual cybersmorgasbord,
Translation: Let's see, what aspect of the spiritual
cybersmorgasbord can I trash this morning?
it has struck
me
First of all spiritual realities are best proved by direct personal experience,
but those are rarely things that can justified or proven to others, short of
inducing the direct experience in others, so all one can do is lay it on the
table if they wish, and leave it at that. I will approach
nablusoss1008 wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote:
Nabs,
Thanks for the comforting words. We'll let you know if the ETs have arrived
here during the earthquake.
They are there and protecting you now, in many ways, as we speak. But
stopping an
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
snip
Ah, but the Cathers were mistaken to think teachers were
Aggghhh. CathArs.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@... wrote:
Funny you should bring this up. A few weeks ago Michelle
referred to her husband as a Kenyan and in April as
having gone to her husband's home country, Kenya.
Right, that Michelle, they really need to keep her from
So are you alleging this is a government conspiracy? After Obama would
have been vetted even to be a Senator.
Mike Dixon wrote:
Funny you should bring this up. A few weeks ago Michelle referred to her
husband as a Kenyan and in April as having gone to her husband's home
country, Kenya.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote:
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
Continuing my cafe musings on the curious things one finds
out there in the spiritual cybersmorgasbord,
Translation: Let's see, what aspect of the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote:
nablusoss1008 wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
Nabs,
Thanks for the comforting words. We'll let you know if the ETs have
arrived here during the earthquake.
They are
Raj PatelWebsite and Blog of writer, activist and academic, Raj Patel
* Home http://rajpatel.org/
* Raj http://rajpatel.org/meet-raj/
* Books http://rajpatel.org/category/books/
* Blog http://rajpatel.org/blog/
* Events http://rajpatel.org/category/events/
* Videos
The Third Time as Toilet PaperBy Raj http://rajpatel.org/author/raj/
on 06/25/2010 in Uncategorized
http://rajpatel.org/category/uncategorized/
I ended yesterday's discussion on the G20
http://rajpatel.org/2010/06/24/g20-illegitimate-incompetent-and-out-of-\
control/ with the suggestion that in
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote:
You may ask this Barry-fellow how he is paid. You'll get
an answer but it will not be truthful.
Since you're the only person who replied to this
thread yet, Nabby, I'll answer you, and truthfully,
because you really don't
Alex Stanley:
It's also ridiculous to lump a Waking Down teacher
in with neo-Advaita...
Everyone knows that 'Waking Down' is derived from the
same source as the 'Neo-Advaitins'.
Notions of being 'all of who we are', being in
'unity consciousness', 'awaked' - to the fullness of
your own
Depends on one's goals; but I'd say yes, at the very least getting into the
subtle Shakti levels. That is, if one's goal is the big E; or perhaps gaining
Sidhis (comparable in some respects to the learning of more ordinary skills,
such as playing a violin: having a good teacher would be
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifux...@... wrote:
Depends on one's goals; but I'd say yes, at the very least
getting into the subtle Shakti levels. That is, if one's goal
is the big E; or perhaps gaining Sidhis (comparable in some
respects to the learning of more ordinary
Indeed. The whole Obama birther thing is a great litmus test for intelligence.
At this stage of the game, those who still buy into this fantasy might as well
be carrying I'm An Idiot placards around. Much of this birther bullshit is
just coded racism. Same with those who blather on about
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote:
You may ask this Barry-fellow how he is paid. You'll get
an answer but it will not be truthful.
Since you're the only person who replied to this
TurquoiseB wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifux...@... wrote:
Depends on one's goals; but I'd say yes, at the very least
getting into the subtle Shakti levels. That is, if one's goal
is the big E; or perhaps gaining Sidhis (comparable in some
respects to the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote:
You may ask this Barry-fellow how he is paid. You'll get
an answer but it will
http://teapartyjesus.tumblr.com/
An acharya explains in the following link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjZ9QJ-dzhsplaynext_from=TLvideos=EtzL8OwfsgMfeature=grec_index
The Last Airbender is a joyless, soulless, muddled mess, but the worst
part of all doesn't come until the very end. That's when it makes the
clear suggestion that two more such movies are in store for us.
Hopefully, that won't happen.
more here:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100630/ap_en_re
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote:
You may
Oh, relax Judy. It was just a couple of gaffs on Michelle's part, kind of like
when Barry mentioned *his Islamic religion* to Georgie Stephanopolous on *This
Week*. I saw Michelle's comment on TV and by the way, you can google *my Kenyan
husband* and should find both of her's on You Tube. I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@... wrote:
Oh, relax Judy. It was just a couple of gaffs on Michelle's
part, kind of like when Barry mentioned *his Islamic religion*
to Georgie Stephanopolous on *This Week*. I saw Michelle's
comment on TV and by the way, you can
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote:
You may
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
It may sound crazy to you, but I really dug it. It
was *much* more fun and felt subjectively cleaner
than the years I spent teaching TM.
Unfortunately you are a fool.
The Brahmanda Saraswati Trust is said to be at
now wait a minute...; there's plenty of evidence suggesting that if people want
to get E'd, they should approach and learn from an Enlightened Teacher. To
suggest the contrary would be illogical: that people can spontaneously get E'd
more so than with a Guru.
Of course, contrarian singletons
You meet a person on the road and ask him which way to New York. He
points to the correct direction. You ask him if he's been there and he
says no. But he still gave you the correct direction.
Likewise I would assert that as long as the teacher knows the techniques
they do not need to be
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifux...@... wrote:
now wait a minute...; there's plenty of evidence suggesting
that if people want to get E'd, they should approach and
learn from an Enlightened Teacher.
Dude. There is no evidence that enlightenment
even EXISTS.
There are
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
snip
I am only making the point that many, many
people just *assume* that a spiritual teacher
is necessary to make significant spiritual
progress, and I'm suggesting this is an
erroneous assumption. If we believe the claims
Course I could be all wrong too ;)
I owe this one to Dr. Pete, who mentioned it on another
forum. I found a copy immediately, but had not had time
to watch it until tonight. My loss. This is one great
movie, and a murder mystery that will keep you guessing
until the end and thinking long past the end.
Murder mysteries are not
TurquoiseDuring the 4-5 years that I taught meditation while
studying with Rama - Fred Lenz, I *didn't* get paid.
*I* paid. That's just the way it worked in that org.
The talks and the instruction were free to anyone
who showed up, and so were all the cassette tapes,
books, CDs and other
How is this different than learning how to play
a violin.? ...and getting an expert teacher in
that field?
TurquoiseB:
If we believe the claims of the enlightened, a
significant number of them (and historically an
*important* number of them) realized their
enlightenment without
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35 nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
35 WillyTex
Since you're the only person who replied to this
thread yet, Nabby,
giggle
snip
I can talk about this subjective thing because
I've taught both ways...
Barry's completely forgotten that he said
explicitly he wanted to hear from people who
were *not* teachers...
Barry got
TurquoiseB wrote:
I owe this one to Dr. Pete, who mentioned it on another
forum. I found a copy immediately, but had not had time
to watch it until tonight. My loss. This is one great
movie, and a murder mystery that will keep you guessing
until the end and thinking long past the end.
I am only making the point that many, many
people just *assume* that a spiritual teacher
is necessary ...
authfriend:
I submit that the percentage of seekers who have
achieved enlightenment entirely on their own is
*minuscule*...
There is only one account in Zen Buddhist history
During the 4-5 years that I taught meditation while
studying with Rama - Fred Lenz, I *didn't* get paid.
*I* paid. That's just the way it worked in that org.
The talks and the instruction were free to anyone
who showed up, and so were all the cassette tapes,
books, CDs and other
Only oneself can know if one is in a different state of mind than before.
...and then it would be a matter of personal semantics of if one would describe
thier own experience as enlightenment. (SCI stuff aside) I am convenced that
one will never find themself foolproof regardless of any
P.S. If a person feels that they are somehow enlightened, or endowed with
some added perspective, they know that most people will never buy into it,
because most people, when they look at another, are not able to notice anything
beyond their own range of consciousness. (If the prospective
This is interesting. A report from Bloomberg with comments added from
Christopher Story of WorldReports.org
http://www.worldreports.org/news/295_big_u.s._banks_confirmed_as_criminal_enterprises
I have been interested this year to see Fox News going after the Federal
Reserve with a freedom of
.
Maybe we can have these accusations finally cleared up in
2012
They were cleared up a LONG time ago. He was born in
Hawaii.
The Kenyan Ambassador said Obama's birthplace is well known in Kenya:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH4GX3Otf14feature=related
And in Hawaii noone has come
You got that right. You can make the Shrivastava/Varma clan VERY wealthy!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
It may sound crazy to you, but I really dug it. It
was *much* more
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIS5n9Oyzscfeature=youtube_gdata
Next class: The Maharishi Effect-Myth or Mayhem?
You're probably right, as long as utter morons like yourself continue to
perpetuate this lunatic fantasy.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, brian64705 no_re...@... wrote:
.
Maybe we can have these accusations finally cleared up in
2012
They were cleared up a LONG time ago.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, brian64705 no_re...@... wrote:
This is interesting. A report from Bloomberg with comments
added from Christopher Story of WorldReports.org
Brian, you do know Christopher Story is a crackpot, right?
He just makes stuff up. Look at this page:
Brian, did you look at the page I linked for you in my
earlier post?
http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/stories/2009/wndbirthlies.html#grandmother
http://tinyurl.com/26t9rr8
This is nutcase stuff.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, brian64705 no_re...@... wrote:
.
Maybe we can have
Don Miller:
If they don't really have a master or
tradition the they should invent them.
I suspect that this was one factor with
Carlos Castaneda...
Maybe so, I first met Carlos Casteneda out
at Esalen while we were both attending a
conference with Bucky Fuller. About a year
later, I
The Bloomberg story is published here:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-06-29/banks-financing-mexico-s-drug-cartels-admitted-in-wells-fargo-s-u-s-deal.html
I've been reading Christopher Story for about 4 years. So yes sometimes he gets
it wrong, but when we see the main stream starting to
Judy, Yes got it thank-you.
I am not persuaded by those who chose to attack the messenger which is a common
response to anyone raising questions. It's interesting to me that noone has so
far claimed to have been present at Obamas birth in Hawaii. Yet his grandmother
said she was present at
Judy, clearly this guy Brian believes whatever happens to land in his e-mail
in-box.
I get crap like this almost every day from my right wing nut friends. Almost
invariably a simple check of snopes.com would save them the embarrassment of
sending this garbage out. But no, that would mean
wow, (yawn)
You should post that on The Twilight Zone
http://www.artforthemasses.us/castacon/index.php
night all.
hope your dreams are more interesting than that Tex.
From: WillyTex willy...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, June 30, 2010
right,...sounds good to me!, precisely. Then, coupled with the motivation to
actually practice; as they say in Buddhism, cultivate.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote:
You meet a person on the road and ask him which way to New York. He
points to the correct
Hmm - more ad hominems!
In this case Christopher Story is merely reposting a story from Bloomberg news
with a few comments. Have a look at the video of the former Money Laundering
unit of Wachovia interviewed on the left here at
Precisely, Judy!...(on the numbers of self-Enlightened people being miniscule)
in contrast to those with Enlightened teachers. The obviousness of this as a
fact is so overwhelming as to lead me to believe that Barry has some ulterior
motives in twisting the facts.
...
To find out what those
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, brian64705 no_re...@... wrote:
Judy, Yes got it thank-you.
Well, no, you didn't read it if you're still pushing
the grandmother story, because the page debunked it
quite thoroughly.
I am not persuaded by those who chose to attack the messenger
which is
thanks, interesting. By teachers we may include various types of
transmissions, direct or indirect; with or without the physical presence of a
teacher. This would include imo listening to Sutras, Vedic Hymns, etc; as well
as novices merely meditating on their own in various Temples, or as in
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote:
Judy, clearly this guy Brian believes whatever happens to
land in his e-mail in-box.
Yeah, I'm afraid you're right.
I am rather fond of the image of George W. Bush waking
up to find a horse's head in his bed a la The Godfather,
Quite true, Don; but MMY's Unity is more precisely defined. Can we not assume
that all Enlightened people are in a state of Unity??; but on various celestial
levels, Enlightenment can easily extend beyond Unity and engulf it.
As state by Adi Da, there are two levels of the 7-th level. The 2nd
I'm not disputing that Wachovia is evil, Brian. I'm saying
you should be reading reputable news sources rather than
Story.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, brian64705 no_re...@... wrote:
Hmm - more ad hominems!
In this case Christopher Story is merely reposting a story from Bloomberg
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifux...@... wrote:
Precisely, Judy!...(on the numbers of self-Enlightened people
being miniscule) in contrast to those with Enlightened teachers.
The obviousness of this as a fact is so overwhelming as to lead
me to believe that Barry has some
Though I've allowed myself to be duped briefly in a number of times in this
lifetime (hopefully my learning curve is going in the right direction); Lenz is
not one of those I've been duped by. From the very get-go - his posters on
Westwood Blvd showing him with that Afro hair-do, made me
Judy, If by reputable you mean main stream media, I have to disagree when it
comes to investigations of very powerful vested interests.
But what I find heartening in this story is indeed now we seem to be seeing
more truth in main stream outlets such as Bloomberg. And I am seeing it in Fox
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