[FairfieldLife] No Ground Of All Being [was Re: Help a Saint - Lose]

2011-06-27 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra wrote: > > > > LOVE IT! THANKS. GOT MY ATTENTION. You prove my pet theory: when a person's > > first person perspective comes—unwittingly, adventitiously—through their > > so-

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-27 Thread Ravi Yogi
I retract my retraction. MZ is the TM's Prodigal Pimp. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra wrote: > > Hi. I didn't receive answers to my last two questions, but I'll pose a third. > AFAIK, you're the only person in recorded history to have achieved a unity-type > state of consciousne

[FairfieldLife] Re: So who is Jay Lathom? Is that a pseudonym?

2011-06-27 Thread Ravi Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > > Not only is RC new here, but he has been besieged from many sides by people riled up by his provocative posts. With so many people posting AT you, it is really hard to keep to the limit set for the rest of us who have had time

[FairfieldLife] Re: So who is Jay Lathom? Is that a pseudonym?

2011-06-27 Thread Ravi Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall wrote: > >snip> Rory, Ravi and now RC, OTOH, figure the > more words they throw at you the more you'll lap it up. > Says Tom who sends all my mail to his junk folder.

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-27 Thread Ravi Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: > > > > Dear Rory; what is a "I-particle" ? > > > Dear Nablusoss; succinctly, an I-particle is an ego, a wave on the ocean of Us, a being believing it exists as a s

[FairfieldLife] Samsung Galaxy / Nokia N9 / Apple iPad2 HTML5 test!

2011-06-27 Thread cardemaister
http://thehandheldblog.com/2011/06/23/meego-android-ios-html5-test/ And teh winner is? ;D

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-27 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > Dear Rory; what is a "I-particle" ? > > > Dear Nablusoss; succinctly, an I-particle is an ego, a wave on the ocean of > Us, a being believing it exists as a sep

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mechanics of Vedic Engineering

2011-06-27 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > As a reminder for those who have doubts, MMY explains how the unmanifest > becomes real in the world of creation. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMKFGeTxVpUv "Even in the english language: Nothing is new under the sun" Maharishi in

[FairfieldLife] Re: So who is Jay Lathom? Is that a pseudonym?

2011-06-27 Thread nablusoss1008
> > > > If it slams Maharishi, Rick's tacitly all for it. I agree with Nabby here. Rick's tacit aggressive when it comes to Maharishi. You can ask Rick that question yourself but he will not answer. He'll give you giggles, a few short oneliners which he thinks is funny but no answer. Then he

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-27 Thread Ravi Yogi
Dear maskedzebra - you look like a really nice guy and everything, there are some things I really like about you like anyone else on this list but you need to let go of your hallucinations and mystical deceit that you ever were enlightened. I have a hard time explaining what Enlightenment is, it ca

[FairfieldLife] Re: So who is Jay Lathom? Is that a pseudonym?

2011-06-27 Thread Ravi Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > > > > > If it slams Maharishi, Rick's tacitly all for it. I > agree with Nabby here. Rick's tacit aggressive when it comes > to Maharishi. > > You can ask Rick that question yourself but he will not answer. He'll give you giggle

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So who is Jay Lathom? Is that a pseudonym?

2011-06-27 Thread Tom Pall
On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 3:10 AM, Ravi Yogi wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > > > Not only is RC new here, but he has been besieged from many sides by > people riled up by his provocative posts. With so many people posting AT > you, it is rea

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-27 Thread PaliGap
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > Dear maskedzebra - > Enlightenment is something special -I quote you "(I was) > INCAPABLE of being bested in a one-on-one encounter with > another human being"), "more versatile, more creative, more > attuned, more commanding",

[FairfieldLife] Re: So who is Jay Lathom? Is that a pseudonym?

2011-06-27 Thread Ravi Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 3:10 AM, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > curtisdeltablues@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Not only is RC new here, but he has been besieged from

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-27 Thread Ravi Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" raviyogi@ wrote: > > > > Dear maskedzebra - > > > Enlightenment is something special -I quote you "(I was) > > INCAPABLE of being bested in a one-on-one encounter with > > another

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-27 Thread Ravi Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap" wrote: > > > I'm with you and your beloved on this one Ravi! I found this > first-hand account of UC to be extremely odd indeed. Not that > I'm one of the experts here on the ins and outs of states > of consciousness. But, and I'm sorry to say this

[FairfieldLife] Re: Investigating Healthy Minds

2011-06-27 Thread Ravi Yogi
Nice - thank you I'll share it on FB. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, eustace10679 wrote: > > American Public Media - Being > > Investigating Healthy Minds with Richard Davidson (June 23, 2011) > > Once upon a time we assumed the brain stops developing when we're young. Neuroscientist Richar

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Enlightenment is not a function of the Mind'

2011-06-27 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > If this post refers to maskedzebra in some way, he is grappling with what many of us are grappling with, in his own way; give him some space to grow through the contradictions in his life. Avoiding contradictions does not wo

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-27 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > > > Dear maskedzebra - > > > > Enlightenment is something special -I quote you "(I was) > > INCAPABLE of being bested in a one-on-one encounter with > > another human bein

[FairfieldLife] Re: So who is Jay Lathom? Is that a pseudonym?

2011-06-27 Thread seventhray1
Ravi, this is call a "work out". Not in the physical sense, but rather as in "processing". We had a guy do this in a major way about a year back. You may recall it. (-: Of course, come to think of it, that was a winding up, and this is an unwinding. (-: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-27 Thread raviyogi2009
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap" compost1uk@ wrote: > > > > And call me simple if you like - but in "unity", who would > > be "besting" who? And, more to the point, why? > > Ahem. Rather than saying it again, I'll just poi

[FairfieldLife] Re: So who is Jay Lathom? Is that a pseudonym?

2011-06-27 Thread Ravi Yogi
Yes I do realize that Steve and hence I followed it up with a detailed post in case you missed it - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/280787 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" wrote: > > > Ravi, this i

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-27 Thread wayback71
> > Ahem. Rather than saying it again, I'll just point > to the post in which I suggested where MZ was at: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/280593 > > What's most fascinating to me -- other than the > hypnomania -- is how *dependent* MZ seems to be on > Maharishi. I get t

[FairfieldLife] Re: So who is Jay Lathom? Is that a pseudonym?

2011-06-27 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > If it slams Maharishi, Rick's tacitly all for it. I > > agree with Nabby here. Rick's tacit aggressive when it comes > > to Maharishi. > > > > Y

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > What's most fascinating to me -- other than the > hypnomania -- He's still misspelling it! is how *dependent* MZ seems to be on > Maharishi. I get the honest feeling that if MMY's > memory magically disappeared from the world, and no

[FairfieldLife] Re: So who is Jay Lathom? Is that a pseudonym?

2011-06-27 Thread Ravi Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" raviyogi@ wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If it slams Maharishi, Rick's tacitly all for it. I >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-27 Thread Bob Price
Does anyone sleep around here, good Lord? MZ, I'm thrilled you've decided to stick around. I'll consider my question answered, heck you gave blastedangelsa pass! I'm getting more excited by the minute about our possible collaboration. After we work out a few details I think a 10 city tour,

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-27 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price wrote: > > PS: I thought the substitute teacher comment was cheap and > uncalled for. Cheap yes. Uncalled for? I think not. Way back when, MZ piggybacked off of Maharishi's name and fame to attract attention to himself. Now, decades later, he's do

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-27 Thread maskedzebra
RESPONSE: Ah, those Vedic gods that I thought I had exorcized from my consciousness, they have returned to tempt me. As in: we can (through our good friend Ravi Yogi) draw you back into your metaphysical theatre by an outrageous and manic putdown of your so-called enlightenment (Unity Consciousn

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-27 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > Very interesting, thanks for taking the time to post this ! You certainly > take my good old brain-cells out for a spin ! * * My pleasure, Nablussos! > Correct me if I'm wrong, but does this mean you view the Crop Circles as

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-27 Thread Bob Price
Turq, I love you man but you have to learn to pace yourself. I have no doubt you could write crop circles around me but one thing I do know, when I see it, is a dynamite value proposition. And MZ's has one, in spades. Granted, he did play pool with the Cincinnati Kid and get his head handed to

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price wrote: > > > > PS: I thought the substitute teacher comment was cheap and > > uncalled for. > > Cheap yes. Uncalled for? I think not. > > Way back when, MZ piggybacked off of Maharishi's

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-27 Thread PaliGap
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price wrote: > > MZ, > > I'm not sure I like what I'm seeing here. Me neither. Is there a kangaroo loose in the top paddock? (Is there cause for concern?)

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-27 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price wrote: > > Turq, > > I love you man but you have to learn to pace yourself. I have > no doubt you could write crop circles around me but one thing > I do know, when I see it, is a dynamite value proposition. > And MZ's has one, in spades. Granted

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-27 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > > > Very interesting, thanks for taking the time to post this ! You certainly > > take my good old brain-cells out for a spin ! > > * * My pleasure, Nablussos!

[FairfieldLife] Oliver Sacks, "Summer of Madness"

2011-06-27 Thread authfriend
Utterly fascinating review-cum-ruminations by neurologist/ psychiatrist Oliver Sacks of a book written by a father about his daughter ten years after she appeared to go suddenly insane. May or may not have any relevance to anything currently taking place on FFL: http://www.nybooks.com/articles/ar

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-27 Thread Bob Price
You're not calling me a kangaroo are you? I always thought of myself as more of a dingo, something with some Dalmatian in it. From: PaliGap To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, June 27, 2011 7:37:26 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: another question for M

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-27 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price wrote: > > MZ, > > I'm not sure I like what I'm seeing here. I know you know > the old saw, "If you want to get better at tennis, play > with your betters". I can't keep Turq warmed up forever! > Don't get me wrong, my money is on you. Is *that*

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > I guess I have a thing about people piggybacking off > the name and fame of others. It rankled when Maharishi > did it with the Beatles and with Merv Griffin, and it > rankles when people do it with him. In other words, Barry has a thing

Re: [FairfieldLife] Children of the Night

2011-06-27 Thread Vaj
On Jun 26, 2011, at 1:05 PM, sparaig wrote: So, I'm curious as to how MZ, not to mention Vaj, respond to this: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeanne-ball/meditation-trauma- abuse_b_883225.html The Balls are well-known TM proselytizers, almost always relying on self-produced "research" of

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-27 Thread whynotnow7
That's what I was thinking too - Turq's 15 minutes are up. Next! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > What's most fascinating to me -- other than the > > hypnomania -- > > He's still misspelling it! > > is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Oliver Sacks, "Summer of Madness"

2011-06-27 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > Utterly fascinating review-cum-ruminations by neurologist/ > psychiatrist Oliver Sacks of a book written by a father about > his daughter ten years after she appeared to go suddenly > insane. May or may not have any relevance to anyt

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-27 Thread whynotnow7
It is an open market after all, and what some of us hear as mere words, others hear as wisdom. That's what attracts us to some teachers, is they bring us closer (ideally) to the Infinite. Sounds like you are making a case for Self as teacher. Ultimately, that is where we all end up anyway, right

[FairfieldLife] Re: Oliver Sacks, "Summer of Madness"

2011-06-27 Thread whynotnow7
Wow - glad the doctors finally caught that, and that your son was able to stabilize his thyroid. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > Utterly fascinating review-cum-ruminations by neurologist/ > > ps

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-27 Thread maskedzebra
Dear Bob Price, My intention is to do justice to what you have said, and how you have entertained us with your recent posts. But having just been (perhaps imprudently) drawn into hand-to-hand combat with Ravi, I think it wise that I take a 'time-out', just to collect myself and become disengage

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So who is Jay Lathom? Is that a pseudonym?

2011-06-27 Thread Bhairitu
I believe Sunstar is a vanity press so they have no vested interest in the publication. You'd have to talk to the next of kin. On 06/26/2011 04:51 PM, authfriend wrote: > Thanks. That part's all about Vietnam, though. Why the heck > don't they put the whole thing up for download and charge > som

Re: [FairfieldLife] Samsung Galaxy / Nokia N9 / Apple iPad2 HTML5 test!

2011-06-27 Thread Bhairitu
On 06/27/2011 12:25 AM, cardemaister wrote: > http://thehandheldblog.com/2011/06/23/meego-android-ios-html5-test/ > > And teh winner is? ;D Of course you can get other browsers for Android. He didn't try them. And he should try it with tablet running Android 3.0 or above.

[FairfieldLife] Coincidentia oppositorum is Upa-Brahmi-Chetana

2011-06-27 Thread emptybill
All you Texas bashing bigots ... wake up and 'rouse about. The dawn of Brahman Consciousness, as a trans-conceptual unity of opposite states, was not revealed by MMY. It was unconcealed in fullness in 1952 in Texas as a footnote to the Brahma Sutra-s. Let the record stand corrected. Read it an

[FairfieldLife] The Circus begins

2011-06-27 Thread Bhairitu
So will Michelle Bachmann be campaigning in Fairfield? Should be quite a laugh. :-D

[FairfieldLife] HAPPY - A Profound Documentary

2011-06-27 Thread Jean
This was such an uplifting documentary on what is happiness and how people cultivate it. My review below includes links to trailers and how you can see it. http://www.moviereviewsfromaspiritualperspective.com/documentaries/happy-the-movie

[FairfieldLife] Re: Coincidentia oppositorum is Upa-Brahmi-Chetana

2011-06-27 Thread authfriend
Post of the Year, hands down. Brilliant, emptybill. Just brilliant (both the quote and your use of it). Where did you find the quote? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote: > > > All you Texas bashing bigots ... wake up and 'rouse about. > > The dawn of Brahman Consciousness

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-27 Thread whynotnow7
MZ, I enjoyed this question of yours. You said (with my edit), "Try this thought experiment: if you had never heard of enlightenment: it was a concept about which you were entirely ignorant (you didn't know of its existence, either in your vocabulary or in your experience), and you were describi

[FairfieldLife] No Ground Of All Being [was Re: Help a Saint - Lose]

2011-06-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
So I'm playing this gig in a Midwestern dive, usual Friday night crowd, couple of friends, couple of drunks. I'm working through my second set with the usual shouts from the back for me to play Freebird (I've played here for years and some drunks STILL don't know what I play and what I don't pl

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-27 Thread Denise Evans
I would be interested in reading a post that was a few lines by you and Ravi Yoga defining your two current understanding of "reality" for you as it relates to an "enlightened state" for you.  How do you define each and where do you reside today? Is it really this complicated? --- On Mon, 6/27/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-27 Thread Denise Evans
Ravi:  "I realized I just had to continue doing what I ad or continue what was for me in that moment. What I should be doing could change tomorrow - to be fluid, to meet every moment in its pristine virgin beauty - that is what enlightenment is - it is not something special, it is not an ackno

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-27 Thread Denise Evans
Snip:  "Enlightenment is just being oneself, a state of absolute self-love (narcissism as Barry would say) that then extends outwards, the unique expression of divine, the divine admiring its own creation in its unique limited localized manifestation and then all individuals are part of this wh

[FairfieldLife] Re: Oliver Sacks, "Summer of Madness"

2011-06-27 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > Wow - glad the doctors finally caught that, and that your son was able to > stabilize his thyroid. thanks, he is fine now, but for a while there we were thinking major mental illness. Makes you appreciate medicine, blood tests, med

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Enlightenment is not a function of the Mind'

2011-06-27 Thread Denise Evans
So, enlightenment encompasses following one's intuition and acknowledging that we are all One. --- On Sun, 6/26/11, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Enlightenment is not a function of the Mind' To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-27 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > I wish I could claim to understand even a fraction of what you write now > Rory, but no. :-) * * Ah, well... maybe in a Now which comes later! :-) > But then again you already wrote this: > "new chakras singing themselves into exi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-27 Thread Bob Price
MZ, Thanks you for your heart felt post. One of the many things I love about Canadians is that they are so damned polite, even when they high stick when they take into the boards. Gordie Howe comes to mind. Don't get me wrong, I think you're just getting warmed up. I see a lot more of a Bruins

[FairfieldLife] Brain and Spirituality [was Oliver Sacks, "Summer of Madness"]

2011-06-27 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: >Utterly fascinating review-cum-ruminations by neurologist/ psychiatrist Oliver Sacks of a book written by a father about his daughter ten years after she appeared to go suddenly insane. May or may not have any relevance to anything curre

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Ground Of All Being [was Re: Help a Saint - Lose]

2011-06-27 Thread Bob Price
Curtis, As always, thoughtful and considered. Thanks From: curtisdeltablues To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, June 27, 2011 10:03:17 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] No Ground Of All Being [was Re: Help a Saint - Lose] So I'm playing this gig in a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brain and Spirituality [was Oliver Sacks, "Summer of Madness"]

2011-06-27 Thread wayback71
or> /> > > It probably does have some relevance to what goes on on FFL. The > relationship of what goes on in the human brain to spirituality seems to > be a subject that is handled in a very circumspect manner in spiritual > circles. Science is impinging on spiritual experience more and more >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Children of the Night

2011-06-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Jun 26, 2011, at 1:05 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > So, I'm curious as to how MZ, not to mention Vaj, respond to this: > > > > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeanne-ball/meditation-trauma- > > abuse_b_883225.html > > > The Balls are well-k

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brain and Spirituality [was Oliver Sacks, "Summer of Madness"]

2011-06-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > It is OK if a scientist says something like TM, or some other > form of meditation, like mindfulness, seems to result in more > of a 'good' neurotransmitter in the brain. But if a scientist > says that certain specific func

[FairfieldLife] Naagaarjuna and OCD?

2011-06-27 Thread cardemaister
Naagaarjuna seems to repeat verious forms derived from the root 'gam' (to go)almost obsessively (muula-madhyamaka-kaarikaa): gataṃ na gamyate tāvad agataṃ naiva gamyate | gatāgatavinirmuktaṃ gamyamānaṃ na gamyate || MMK_2,01 ceṣṭā yatra gatis tatra gamyamāne ca sā yataḥ | na

Re: [FairfieldLife] Children of the Night

2011-06-27 Thread Tom Pall
On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Vaj wrote: > > > > On Jun 26, 2011, at 1:05 PM, sparaig wrote: > > So, I'm curious as to how MZ, not to mention Vaj, respond to this: > > > > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeanne-ball/meditation-trauma-abuse_b_883225.html > > > > The Balls are well-known TM prose

[FairfieldLife] Re: Oliver Sacks, "Summer of Madness"

2011-06-27 Thread whynotnow7
Very definitely. Modern medicine and care is a miracle, for the most part. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > > > Wow - glad the doctors finally caught that, and that your son was able to > > stabilize

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-27 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > It is an open market after all, and what some of us hear as mere words, > others hear as wisdom. That's what attracts us to some teachers, is they > bring us closer (ideally) to the Infinite. Sounds like you are making a case > for

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-27 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: > > I wish I could claim to understand even a fraction of what you write now Rory, but no. :-) > > * * Ah, well... maybe in a Now which comes later! :-) > > > But

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Circus begins

2011-06-27 Thread whynotnow7
I was completed shocked when I saw Michelle Bachmann on Fox last night (and I *never* watch Fox). Extremely poised, present, and articulate. I have read about her extreme positions, but the person I saw last night is someone I have to take seriously. Not only that, I want to know more about how

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brain and Spirituality [was Oliver Sacks, "Summer of Madness"]

2011-06-27 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" wrote: > I am always in the process of processing what we know so far about the brain. > Wish I were 20 so I could be around another 80 years to see what happens - > altho it is already clear that just about all the experiences we think are

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-27 Thread whynotnow7
Yes, definitely. My daughter born in 1990 is always living in the moment. I used to see angels circling above her bed as I read her bedtime stories when she was younger. Now she is just always here, present, and calm. No interest in meditation or enlightenment because it is nothing out of the or

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-27 Thread maskedzebra
Bob: It's all summed up in that deceptively profound reference:"I see a lot more of a Bruins Canadian in you then Vancouver Canuck." You hiding your light under a bushel by any chance? I never thought of the hockey metaphor, but you sure made it work there. The very acutest perception. I am, ho

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-27 Thread whynotnow7
I enjoy the same paradox, existing between "me" and everything else. Life would be hell otherwise. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > I wish I could claim to understand even a fraction of what you writ

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Circus begins

2011-06-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > I was completed shocked when I saw Michelle Bachmann on Fox last night (and I > *never* watch Fox). Extremely poised, present, and articulate. I have read > about her extreme positions, but the person I saw last night is someone I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brain and Spirituality [was Oliver Sacks, "Summer of Madness"]

2011-06-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > [...] > Maskedzebra mentioned Aquinas. At the end of Aquinas' life he appeared to > have an experience that silenced him. He saw through the metaphysical > claptrap, and saw that all his efforts were as 'straw'. He spoke

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Circus begins

2011-06-27 Thread Bhairitu
These people are dangerous and so is Obama. But the way things are going there may not be an election in 2012 as we may be deep into Civil War 2.0. This one between neighbors and not states. And I think there are entities interested in seeing things going that unstable and have been inspirin

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Circus begins

2011-06-27 Thread Bhairitu
On 06/27/2011 01:33 PM, sparaig wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: >> I was completed shocked when I saw Michelle Bachmann on Fox last night (and >> I *never* watch Fox). Extremely poised, present, and articulate. I have read >> about her extreme positions, but

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-27 Thread Ravi Yogi
Dear MZ - It will as usual take me several sittings to absorb and form a coherent response, so it will take a while. But I just want to say I still think you are an amazing writer, philosopher, a sincere person and I like the sense of irony your posts convey, not this one though. You are giving me

Re: [FairfieldLife] Naagaarjuna and OCD?

2011-06-27 Thread Vaj
The enlightened vaca of a buddha. On Jun 27, 2011, at 3:12 PM, cardemaister wrote: > > > > Naagaarjuna seems to repeat verious forms derived from the root 'gam' (to go) > almost obsessively (muula-madhyamaka-kaarikaa): > > > gataṃ na gamyate tāvad agataṃ naiva gamyate | > gatāgatavinirmuktaṃ

[FairfieldLife] Finally MUM admits to having Borgs [1 Attachment]

2011-06-27 Thread Tom Pall
Her name is Minca Borg. Probably not their first one. ** > > - Original Message - > *From:* MUM Development Office > > > [image: Achievements] [image: The latest developments from Maharishi > University of Management] > > JUNE 27, 2011 • ISSUE 127 > > University Website

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Circus begins

2011-06-27 Thread richardjwilliamstexas
Bhairitu: > So will Michelle Bachmann be campaigning in Fairfield? > So, this is one of the important issues for you in the next election? > Should be quite a laugh. > Why would that be funny - she was born in Iowa.

[FairfieldLife] I Am: The Documentary - Review

2011-06-27 Thread Jean
I Am is a documentary made by Hollywood director, Tom Shadyak, who made the Ace Ventura Pet Detective series and other Jim Carey films, such as Liar, Liar and Bruce Almighty. http://www.moviereviewsfromaspiritualperspective.com/documentaries/i-am

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Circus begins

2011-06-27 Thread richardjwilliamstexas
Bhairitu: > And yes requiring people to buy health care is > nonsense. And that was why I am for single payer > or government health care. > There's no free health care; where did you get that idea? Everyone should pay for their own health care, or pay for health insurance. Single payer is heal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Naagaarjuna and OCD?

2011-06-27 Thread richardjwilliamstexas
> Naagaarjuna seems to repeat verious forms derived > from the root 'gam' (to go).. > Because MMK 2 is an investigation of 'Coming and Going'? madhyamaka karika: http://www.stephenbatchelor.org/verses2.htm

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-27 Thread Rick Archer
I started this thread by stating that there was a sign up in the dome(s) stating that you would lose your badge if you helped a saint. I heard recently that in the office where you go to get your dome badge, there is a sign stating that it's OK to visit saints, but not OK to help them in any way. A

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brain and Spirituality [was Oliver Sacks, "Summer of Madness"]

2011-06-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > wrote: > > > It is OK if a scientist says something like TM, or some other > > form of meditation, like mindfulness, seems to result in more > > of a 'good' neurotrans

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Circus begins

2011-06-27 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > I was completed shocked when I saw Michelle Bachmann on Fox last night (and I > *never* watch Fox). Extremely poised, present, and articulate. I have read > about her extreme positions, but the person I saw last night is someone I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brain and Spirituality [was Oliver Sacks, "Summer of Madness"]

2011-06-27 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > wrote: > [...] > > Maskedzebra mentioned Aquinas. At the end of Aquinas' life he appeared to > > have an experience that silenced him. He saw through the metaphysical

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Circus begins

2011-06-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > I was completed shocked when I saw Michelle Bachmann on Fox > last night (and I *never* watch Fox). Extremely poised, > present, and articulate. I have read about her extreme > positions, but the person I saw last night is someone I hav

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Naagaarjuna and OCD?

2011-06-27 Thread Vaj
On Jun 27, 2011, at 6:15 PM, richardjwilliamstexas wrote: >> >> Naagaarjuna seems to repeat verious forms derived >> from the root 'gam' (to go).. >> > Because MMK 2 is an investigation of 'Coming and Going'? > > madhyamaka karika: > http://www.stephenbatchelor.org/verses2.htm Maybe the TM

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-27 Thread Tom Pall
On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > > > I started this thread by stating that there was a sign up in the dome(s) > stating that you would lose your badge if you helped a saint. I heard > recently that in the office where you go to get your dome badge, there is a > sign stating t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brain and Spirituality [was Oliver Sacks, "Summer of Madness"]

2011-06-27 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
The description below, and the link to the paper, a really cool experience. This capacity for such experience is built into us, and as long as we can access it, it does not seem to matter much how. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.co

[FairfieldLife] Post Count

2011-06-27 Thread FFL PostCount
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Jun 25 00:00:00 2011 End Date (UTC): Sat Jul 02 00:00:00 2011 301 messages as of (UTC) Tue Jun 28 00:13:53 2011 42 nablusoss1008 35 authfriend 20 whynotnow7 17 turquoiseb 16 Ravi Yogi 14 Xenophaneros Anartaxius 14

[FairfieldLife] Re: Naagaarjuna and OCD?

2011-06-27 Thread richardjwilliamstexas
> > > Naagaarjuna seems to repeat verious forms derived > > > from the root 'gam' (to go).. > > > > > Because MMK 2 is an investigation of 'Coming and Going'? > > Vaj: > > Maybe the TM orgs Advaita Mahavakya could be "oh yeah? - > ...then add That."? > You are not even making any sense. The "

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-06-27 Thread WLeed3
In a message dated 6/27/2011 8:17:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, thomas.p...@gmail.com writes: On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Rick Archer <_rick@searchsummit.com_ (mailto:r...@searchsummit.com) > wrote: I started this thread by stating that there was a sign up in the dome(s) sta

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Circus begins

2011-06-27 Thread authfriend
More to read about Bachmann: http://old.news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110628/ap_on_el_ge/us_bachmann_fact_check http://tinyurl.com/3qd24kt --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > > > I was completed shocked when I saw

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Circus begins

2011-06-27 Thread feste37
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > > > I was completed shocked when I saw Michelle Bachmann on Fox last night (and > > I *never* watch Fox). Extremely poised, present, and articulate. I have > > r

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brain and Spirituality [was Oliver Sacks, "Summer of Madness"]

2011-06-27 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" wrote: > snip So the big question remains as to whether the brain experiences and that style of brain functioning that feels spiritual just is what it is, or if

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