--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> Interestingly (as I'm sure you know), Pennington was
> for some years a TM teacher. He more or less ripped off
> the TM technique and adapted it to an explicitly
> religious context, as is obvious from his description
> above.
I'm prett
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> > Interestingly (as I'm sure you know), Pennington was
> > for some years a TM teacher. He more or less ripped off
> > the TM technique and adapted it to an explicit
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > > 4. Whenever you become aware of anything (thoughts,
> > > feelings, perceptions, images, associations, etc.),
> > > simply return to your sacred word, your anchor.
> >
> > That is quite a paraphrase and might must as well have
> > co
Thanks for the response. Comments below.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > Would it have
> > become less about self-discovery for you?
>
> No. It would have been irrelevant.
>
> But it would not have been
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> Thanks for the response. Comments below.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> > > Would it have
> > > become less about self-discovery for
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Arhata Osho wrote:
>
> Outsiders have no clue what TM means let alone the infinite amount of
> meditations> available. Take a poll of 'meditators' (including Yoga people),
> and they have 0 interest!
But if they forked over $2,500 they could get the HIGHES
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> But there's *no way* people can ever have the
> complete picture without really getting into it,
> including plenty of experience of the technique.
>
> In between virtually no information about TM's
> origins and context and full inform
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Arhata Osho wrote:
> >
> > Outsiders have no clue what TM means let alone the infinite amount of
> > meditations> available. Take a poll of 'meditators' (including Yoga
> > people), and t
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> > But there's *no way* people can ever have the
> > complete picture without really getting into it,
> > including plenty of experience of the technique.
> >
> > In
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
wrote:
>
>
> As far as TM being a wide spread beneficial practice I believe we have
> conducted this experiment and the numbers are in. People who don't get into
> the philosophy and belief system don't continue TM.
>
Perhaps. But I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the response. Comments below.
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
> > > But there's *no way* people can ever have the
> > > complete picture without really getting
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Arhata Osho wrote:
> > >
> > > Outsiders have no clue what TM means let alone the infinite amount of
> > > meditations>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
> Would you
> have any objections to attendees at the up-
> coming McCartney concert being handed a
> flyer containing only the English translation
> of the TM puja -- no commentary, only a sim-
> ple explanation that this was a translation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
> >
> > Now, since I have been indulging your ques-
> > tions, please indulge one of mine. Would you
> > have any objections to attendees at the up-
> > coming McCartney concert b
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > >
> > > > But there's *no
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
wrote:
> I called you out on using an ad hominem argument
> in our last discussion
It wasn't an "argument," it was an observation.
When I first made it, you reacted badly, so I
dropped it. Then just recently, as I noted earlier
today, you
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In Fairfie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Arhata Osho wrote:
>
> Checks in the envelope . . where to mail it! T
To me of course, I'll make sure he gets it! I'll cash it in my bank and write
a check on my own account, then drop the check into the Ganges to follow his
ashes!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> wrote:
>
> > I called you out on using an ad hominem argument
> > in our last discussion
>
> It wasn't an "argument," it was an observation.
> When I first made it, you reac
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I called you out on using an ad hominem argument
> > > in our last discussion
> >
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
>
> On Mar 28, 2009, at 12:00 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
>
> > Although Maharishi promotes the idea of coming back to the mantra
> > was his unique contribution, I'm not sure a broader study of the
> > source documents would support this.
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
> > >
> > > Now, since I have been indulging your ques-
> > > tions, please indulge one of mine. Would you
> > > h
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
> Seems to me that MMY's "unique contribution" is the understanding that
> thinking a mantra is no different than thinking any other thought.
>
> Insomuch as most other meditation "techniques" seem to miss this point,
> I'd say it is unique
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
>
> > Seems to me that MMY's "unique contribution" is the understanding that
> > thinking a mantra is no different than thinking any other thought.
> >
> > Insomuch as mos
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
> >
> > > Seems to me that MMY's "unique contribution" is the understanding that
> > > thinking a mantra i
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Now, since I have been indulg
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
> Seems to me that MMY's "unique contribution" is the
> understanding that thinking a mantra is no different
> than thinking any other thought.
I'm not sure you can pick out any one specific point
as his unique contribution. It was the way h
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Now, since I have been indulg
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
>
> > Seems to me that MMY's "unique contribution" is the
> > understanding that thinking a mantra is no different
> > than thinking any other thought.
>
> I'm not sure you can p
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> Really, in terms of the technical description of how
> TM is practiced in the initial technique--it's not
> truly like 'any other thought', as one is enjoined to
> maintain mindfulness (or smriti to use the actual
> technical term) both as the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
>
> On Mar 28, 2009, at 5:24 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
>
> >>> This principle doesn't hold up all the way through the advanced
> >>> techniques or the defunct Chopra technique. But in any case I've
> >>> not met any TMer who could rightful
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Seems to me
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
>
> > Seems to me that MMY's "unique contribution" is the
> > understanding that thinking a mantra is no different
> > than thinking any other thought.
>
> I'm not sure you can p
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
>
> On Mar 28, 2009, at 5:01 PM, sparaig wrote:
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mar 28, 2009, at 12:00 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
> >>
> >>> Although Maharishi promotes the idea of coming back to the ma
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
>
> On Mar 28, 2009, at 5:24 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
>
> >>> This principle doesn't hold up all the way through the advanced
> >>> techniques or the defunct Chopra technique. But in any case I've
> >>> not met any TMer who could rightful
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Mar 28, 2009, at 5:24 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
> >
> > >>> This principle doesn't hold up all the way through the advanced
> > >>> techniques or the defunct Chopra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
> > At one stage you are directing the mantra. This is not like any other
> > thought. That was my point.
> >
>
> We seem to have different ideas about how things work
> > I know all of these advanced techniques are on the web but I don
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
>
> > > At one stage you are directing the mantra. This is not like any other
> > > thought. That was my point.
> > >
> >
> > We seem to have different ideas about how
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
>
> On Mar 28, 2009, at 7:59 PM, raunchydog wrote:
> > Vaj, You haven't a clue about the practice of TM.
>
> Intersting opinion but WRONG. :-)
No, she's quite correct. God only knows where you
came up with this stuff, but it has nothing to do
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
> >
> > Vaj, You haven't a clue about the practice of TM.
>
> Intersting opinion but WRONG. :-)
>
> >
> >>
> >> Really, in terms of the technical description of how TM is practiced
> >> in the initial technique--it's not truly like 'any other th
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote:
> Unless, you have actually practiced TM, and it doesn't
> sound like you have, you're just pontificating about
> something you don't know anything about. I don't know
> what meditation you practice, but I'd be surprised if
> you've ever ha
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote:
> > Unless, you have actually practiced TM, and it doesn't
> > sound like you have, you're just pontificating about
> > something you don't know anything about. I don't know
> >
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
>
> On Mar 28, 2009, at 8:45 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
> >
> >>> At one stage you are directing the mantra. This is not like any
> >>> other thought. That was my point.
> >>>
> >
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote:
>
> On Mar 28, 2009, at 8:47 PM, Vaj wrote:
>
> >> This is not like any other thought. The level of mantra repetition
> >> where mantra continues continuously like a spontaneous thought
> >> actually is ajapa-japa: no effort or smriti, jus
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote:
> > > Unless, you have actually practiced TM, and it doesn't
> > > sound like you have, you're just pontificat
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
> I've learned a lot of variations on mantra concentration over the
> years, from the TM "charm causes the mind to spontaneously
> concentrate" idea to many other kinds. One of the problems I noticed
> with very "slack" techniques like TM is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> It's as if someone were to say baseball was a flawed
> version of cricket. Two different games.
>
LOL. O.K. Vaj, spill the beans when and where were you on TTC?
fwiw, in a future lifetime, possibly two or three from this one, Vaj and the
others on here with an antagonistic relationship to their TM experiences will
be great proponents of the technique.
but there is zero chance of it being this lifetime, so no point in trying to
change their minds durin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 wrote:
>
> fwiw, in a future lifetime, possibly two or three from this one, Vaj and the
> others on here with an antagonistic relationship to their TM experiences will
> be great proponents of the technique.
>
I'm a very big fan of poet
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
>
> I'm talking about the "outward" stroke RD, not the inward one. If you
> keep returning on the outward stroke it's because your level of
> attention was faulty...another thing you were apparently never told...
>
> ...here, have a cracker
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote:
>
> On Mar 28, 2009, at 8:47 PM, Vaj wrote:
>
> > > This is not like any other thought. The level of mantra
> > > repetition where mantra continues continuously like a
> > > spontaneous thought actually is ajapa-japa: no effort or
> > >
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote:
> >
> > On Mar 28, 2009, at 8:47 PM, Vaj wrote:
> >
> > > > This is not like any other thought. The level of mantra
> > > > repetition where mantra continues continuously like a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
>
> On Mar 28, 2009, at 10:13 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote:
>
> > On Mar 28, 2009, at 8:47 PM, Vaj wrote:
> >
> >>> This is not like any other thought. The level of mantra repetition
> >>> where mantra continues continuously like a spontaneous thought
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Mar 28, 2009, at 10:13 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote:
> >
> > > On Mar 28, 2009, at 8:47 PM, Vaj wrote:
> > >
> > >>> This is not like any other thought. The level of mantra re
enjoy your dance-- i will too.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 wrote:
> >
> > fwiw, in a future lifetime, possibly two or three from this one, Vaj and
> > the others on here with an antagonistic relationship
Vaj is conflicted between letting go with TM and being bound to the same old
worthless traditions. that is why he wrestles with TM so, trying to fit it into
a box that it doesn't fit in.
the Maharishi was not one to resurrect the fools and worthlessness of the past,
rather to make a clean, eff
Vaj, Until you answer whether or not you are a TM teacher, you have absolutely
no credibility on anything you say about TM. You are a fraud until you prove
otherwise.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
>
> On Mar 29, 2009, at 9:53 AM, raunchydog wrote:
>
> > --- In FairfieldLi
Vaj wrote:
> > It's probably time for a TM and mantra
> > meditation FAQ...
> >
raunchydog wrote:
> Vaj, Your superior tone is nothing more than
> delusions grandeur. You think you know about
> TM. You don't. By the way when and where did
> you do TTC? Did you ever teach anyone TM?
> Where an
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
>
> On Mar 29, 2009, at 10:24 AM, raunchydog wrote:
>
> > Vaj, Until you answer whether or not you are a TM teacher, you have
> > absolutely no credibility on anything you say about TM. You are a
> > fraud until you prove otherwise.
>
> The
> > Vaj, Until you answer whether or not you
> > are a TM teacher, you have absolutely no
> > credibility on anything you say about TM.
> > You are a fraud until you prove otherwise.
> >
Vaj wrote:
> The only fraud I see here is the one
> presenting false views. I guess the good
> thing is, yo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"
wrote:
>
> I've seen a photo of BillyG shaking hands with
> Charles F. Lutes, and I've seen a leaflet with
> Barry Wright's picture on it. Kirk posted a
> graduation photo of himself at MUM.
>
Vaj...nada.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"
wrote:
So you are thinking that a bunch of people here are interested enough in TM to
post regularly concerning their detailed opinions of where Maharishi got it
wrong...
with no detailed exposure to his system of thought? Do I have
> > I've seen a photo of BillyG shaking hands
> > with Charles F. Lutes, and I've seen a
> > leaflet with Barry Wright's picture on it.
> > Kirk posted a graduation photo of himself
> > at MUM.
> >
raunchydog wrote:
> Vaj...nada.
>
There was this one guy on alt.m.t., Lon P.
Stacks, who claimed
Curtis wrote:
> Show me you dome badge buddy!?
>
I've seen no evidence that Curtis has ever
been inside a 'Golden Dome of Pure Knowledge',
or that he has ever even seen a 'dome badge'.
Who are these anonymous posters anyway?
We don't take to trollers here much, Curtis.
> > Yeah, let's get so
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
> Yet another round of people *who have never
> practiced any other technique of meditation
> other than TM* declaring over and over, "TM
> is unique!!!" The absurdity of it staggers
> the imagination.
>
> At least Vaj has *practiced* other
if you think any of the TM critics here are trying to learn anything except
shore up their defenses against a technique that transcends everything, you
truly are dreaming.
this is not some high minded exercise in "compare and contrast". it is a feeble
attempt by those who's egos are in the way,
> > If Vaj really ever was a teacher, he's got some kind
> > of extremely weird cognitive deficit. He's frequently
> > dishonest, but I can't believe he'd be so *stupid* as
> > to think anyone who had ever been involved with TM
> > would fall for the sort of thing he was going on about
> > in this
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal wrote:
>
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 10:13 PM, authfriend wrote:
> > If Vaj really ever was a teacher, he's got some kind
> > of extremely weird cognitive deficit. He's frequently
> > dishonest, but I can't believe he'd be so *stupid* as
> > to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
wrote:
> The lack of interest in Vaj's perspective I see here,
> the polemic gamesmanship used to try to discredit him
> personally rather than address the points he has
> brought up, reveals an anti-intellectual bias that
> reminds me of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
wrote:
> But here you have a guy who is wy into meditation and is
> obviously very sharp, and I don't sense a shred of curiosity
> about his detailed perspective among the people here who claim
> to be way into self development?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote:
>>
> Vaj, Your superior tone is nothing more than delusions grandeur. You think
> you know about TM. You don't. By the way when and where did you do TTC? Did
> you ever teach anyone TM? Where and when was that? If you're a TM teacher, as
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 wrote:
>
> Vaj is conflicted between letting go with TM and being bound to the same old
> worthless traditions. that is why he wrestles with TM so, trying to fit it
> into a box that it doesn't fit in.
>
> the Maharishi was not one to re
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
>
> > Yet another round of people *who have never
> > practiced any other technique of meditation
> > other than TM* declaring over and over, "TM
> > is unique!!!" The absurdity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"
wrote:
>
> Vaj wrote:
> > > It's probably time for a TM and mantra
> > > meditation FAQ...
> > >
> raunchydog wrote:
> > Vaj, Your superior tone is nothing more than
> > delusions grandeur. You think you know about
> > TM. You don't.
> > Show me you dome badge buddy!?
> >
Judy wrote:
> He's discredited *himself* personally. And
> you're discrediting yourself by defending
> him and attacking us.
>
So, it's settled then - Vaj and Curtis and
Turq are discredited by Judy. But, nobody
here has a dome badge they can show. Is ther
> > I am TM initiate #214 in the U.S.A., according
> > to Beaulah Smith, and I meditate regularly in
> > the 'Maharishi Golden Dome of Pure Knowledge',
> > at Radiance, Texas and I can prove it.
> >
Jim wrote:
> Nice, thanks for posting this. I did not know you
> are one of the Pioneers !
>
"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
> On Mar 29, 2009, at 11:05 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
>
> > The lack of interest in Vaj's perspective I see here,
> > the polemic gamesmanship used to try to discredit him
> > personally rather than address the points he has
> > brought up, re
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"
wrote:
>
> > > Show me you dome badge buddy!?
> > >
> Judy wrote:
> > He's discredited *himself* personally. And
> > you're discrediting yourself by defending
> > him and attacking us.
> >
> So, it's settled then - Vaj and Curtis and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"
wrote:
>
> > > Show me you dome badge buddy!?
> > >
> Judy wrote:
> > He's discredited *himself* personally. And
> > you're discrediting yourself by defending
> > him and attacking us.
> >
> So, it's settled then - Vaj and Curtis and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> It doesn't matter *how* many other techniques Vaj
> has studied or for how long. If he can't give an
> accurate account of what TM is, there's no way he
> can make valid comparisons.
My point exactly.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"
wrote:
>
> > > Show me you dome badge buddy!?
> > >
> Judy wrote:
> > He's discredited *himself* personally. And
> > you're discrediting yourself by defending
> > him and attacking us.
> >
> So, it's settled then - Vaj and Curtis and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> >
> > On Mar 29, 2009, at 11:05 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
> >
> > > The lack of interest in Vaj's perspective I see here,
> > > the polemic gamesmanship used to try to discredit hi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
>
> On Mar 29, 2009, at 12:36 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
>
> >>> Show me you dome badge buddy!?
> >>>
> > Judy wrote:
> >> He's discredited *himself* personally. And
> >> you're discrediting yourself by defending
> >> him and attacking us.
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> wrote:
>
> > The lack of interest in Vaj's perspective I see here,
> > the polemic gamesmanship used to try to discredit him
> > personally rather than address the points he
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> > wrote:
> >
> > > The lack of interest in Vaj's perspective I see here,
> > > the polemic gamesmans
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> > wrote:
> >
> > > The lack of interest in Vaj's perspective I see here,
> > > the polemic gamesmans
Judy wrote:
> > It's disingenuous for you to lump me and raunchydog
> > and ed11 in with Willytex, Curtis.
> >
Curtis wrote:
> Let's see, I was responding to Raunchy and Dicky boy
> directly, why would you feel threatened?
>
You failed to respond, Curtis: let me rephrase the
question: 'What wou
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"
wrote:
> You didn't show your dome badege; you haven't posted
> anything to prove your status in the TMO. Let's see
> some proof before you go opening your pie-hole about
> TM and the TMO and the Marshy.
This coming from the genius w
> > You didn't show your dome badege; you haven't posted
> > anything to prove your status in the TMO. Let's see
> > some proof before you go opening your pie-hole about
> > TM and the TMO and the Marshy.
> >
Curtis wrote:
> This coming from the genius who defines TM as "thinking
> things over!"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"
wrote:
>
> > > You didn't show your dome badege; you haven't posted
> > > anything to prove your status in the TMO. Let's see
> > > some proof before you go opening your pie-hole about
> > > TM and the TMO and the Marshy.
> > >
> Curtis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"
wrote:
>
> > > You didn't show your dome badege; you haven't posted
> > > anything to prove your status in the TMO. Let's see
> > > some proof before you go opening your pie-hole about
> > > TM and the TMO and the Marshy.
> > >
> Curtis
> > Everyone meditates; there's probably not a single person
> > on the planet who doesn't pause once or twice a day to
> > take stock of their own mental contents. And we're
> > transcending, all the time. Meditation simply means to
> > 'think things over'. According to Marshy, meditation is
> >
> > 1. to think calm thoughts in order to relax or as a
> > religious activity:
> >
Curtis wrote:
> I do this too so I must be a natural TMer!
>
Well, that's my point, Curtis. You've been meditating
for most of your adult life. Anyone who practices
playing music as much as you do, probably medi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"
wrote:
>
>
> According to Maharishi, TM is the passing of the cognitive
> attention from one level of consciousnes to another, sutler
> level of consciousness. This passing back and forth between
> the gross and finer levels of conscious
That InnerKids foundation looks very cool.
Thanks for the heads up. I'd never heard
of it. An MBSR instructor I know tells me
kids take to Mindfullness instruction
amazingly fast.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
>
> On Mar 27, 2009, at 10:31 AM, grate.swan wrote:
>
> >
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> wrote:
.
> >
> > Judy,
> >
> > I find this not only insulting, but unworthy of
> > an otherwise excellent conversation about our
> > different POVs on this subject. It is a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> Here's an old picture of me and the Big Reesh on vacation in Canada.
> He was an excellent student in many ways!:
>
Now that *is* funny, even if Nabby does think
it will costs yas a few extra yugas in the bardo
for posting it.
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