It may be that techniques have a certain life span in this spiritual business.
If you get one too early, it won't work. If you use one for a long time, it
might come to a natural interruption; you stop, then start again later. It
might come to a natural end. For example, with TM, you sometimes s
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Sharalyn" wrote:
> To whoever wrote this:
>
> > you are an idiot - I did TM for 20 years, twice a day, every day - it took
> > me that long to realize it wasn't the only game in town - stupid me.
> >
>
> Stupid?
>
> I came to FFL today to ask a specif
doctordumbass:
> "A poignant example of this, related to me by at least
> half a different spiritual teachers from traditions
> other than TM..."
>
> *How* many??
>
>
>
Spiritual teachers which shall remain unnamed. Go figure.
A guy like Uncle Tantra probably doesn't have much time
to study w
ar and not
God. - UG Krishnamurti
From: nablusoss1008
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2013 1:37 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders to Doc
> >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" w
y handle only if I'm away for a longer
period.
>
>
>
> From: navashok
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 5:00 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders to Rick and navashok
>
>
> Â
>
>
> --- In Fairfie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote:
> > > (snip)
> > > > OTOH, I have used many
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote:
> > (snip)
> > > OTOH, I have used many non sanskrit mantras, for example
> > > Hebrew words, or the most clear examp
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote:
> (snip)
> > OTOH, I have used many non sanskrit mantras, for example
> > Hebrew words, or the most clear example are the Siddhis,
> > which are simply English words, Inner Light
___
> From: navashok
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 5:00 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders to Rick and navashok
>
>
> Â
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wr
Â
> Thank you both and happy trails to navashok. Will you have a new handle
> when you return? (-:
>
>
>
>
>
> From: navashok
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 5:00 PM
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
For Buck and Sorli:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YcTaflDPFk
> Subject: Sorli fra Bulandi passes
>
> Dear Baddi,
>
> I do hope this letter finds you and your family well and thriving in
> beautiful Iceland. We have so many happy mem
> >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > > > > It drives Barry stark staring BONKERS that DrD doesn't
> > > > > give a rusty nail whether anyone believes he's enlightened.
What is much worse for the Turq than the idea of the big E is that it comes
from pr
Hey Sharalyn,
Como sa va. Nice piece, but I do have one question.
How much of what you describe below could just be attributed to life? I
mean time is a healer. I am not doubting the progression you outline,
but part of the aging process is more wisdom and maturity which could
open the door for
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
[snip]
> Subject: Sorli fra Bulandi passes
>
> Dear Baddi,
>
> I do hope this letter finds you and your family well and thriving in
> beautiful Iceland. We have so many happy memories and connections of the
> heart there!
>
> I just wa
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I know!!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote:
> > >
> > > I know!! Every time he trots it out, because of his own confusion and
> > > superstition a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote:
> > >
> > > I know!! Every time he trots it out, because of his own confusion and
> > > superstition a
ednesday, March 6, 2013 5:00 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders to Rick and
navashok
>
>
> Â
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
> >
> > Navashok, just to say again, there is a checking for TMSP.ÃÂ
>
> O
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote:
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@
> wrote:
> > Also I will add that Buck made me think of something with his
mention
> of the many healers and other spiritual practitioners in Fairfield. If
> TM is so yummy a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote:
> >
> > I know!! Every time he trots it out, because of his own confusion and
> > superstition around the idea of enlightenment, he thinks he is being
> > shocking and conf
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote:
>
> I know!! Every time he trots it out, because of his own confusion and
> superstition around the idea of enlightenment, he thinks he is being shocking
> and confrontational, as if he is asking me about a past cross dressing
> e
I assume you may be talking about me here. No problem. What was the
type of meditation practiced with Rama that provided such profound
experiences? Was it an effortless meditation, or one that involved
effort?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
> And if you are intere
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Sharalyn" wrote:
>
>
>
> To whoever wrote this:
>
> > you are an idiot - I did TM for 20 years, twice a day, every day - it took
> > me that long to realize it wasn't the only game in town - stupid me.
> >
>
> Stupid?
>
> I came to FFL today to ask
To whoever wrote this:
> you are an idiot - I did TM for 20 years, twice a day, every day - it took me
> that long to realize it wasn't the only game in town - stupid me.
>
Stupid?
I came to FFL today to ask a specific question and then get back out again, but
it was unavoidable to see a
I know!! Every time he trots it out, because of his own confusion and
superstition around the idea of enlightenment, he thinks he is being shocking
and confrontational, as if he is asking me about a past cross dressing episode
or something!
He SO wants to be the arbiter of enlightenment, anoin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yes, with pra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
>
> Thank you, Navashok!
He doesn't deserve your thanks unless you're grateful to
be handed a great big pile of garbage.
> You post has actually answered my questions about mantras.
> In my opinion, the fact that there is no sort of ch
new handle when you return?
(-:
From: navashok
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 5:00 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders to Rick and navashok
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share L
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote:
(snip)
> OTOH, I have used many non sanskrit mantras, for example
> Hebrew words, or the most clear example are the Siddhis,
> which are simply English words, Inner Light for example.
> So, all of the TM logic about why TM is so effective,
> th
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
(snip)
> > And if you are interested in challenging their supposed
> > truth or value. In my experience, it's these "core" or
> > *never challenged* beliefs that persist the longest, and
> > are toughest to either recognize or challenge. Stuf
Man, you have a very, very poor memory, Turq (as if that's a surprise). My
insistence on my enlightenment, CC at the time, was as a demonstration that
enlightenment was possible for anyone, and not the pie in the sky unobtainable
state that you and your now absent fair weather friends insisted u
No - don't BS yourself. It is simply a relative measurement of how well your
desires have been fulfilled in the past, vs. now. If mind/body coordination is
increasing, then YF is working, and desires are fulfilled more quickly.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote:
>
>
>
t;
> From: Rick Archer
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 11:21 AM
> Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders to Michael
>
>
> Â
> Â
> From:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote:
> Actually I think it's proof that TM is not a cult, the fact that someone like
> me goes to the Dome every day twice a day and wisely seeks out whatever
> healing modalities I think I need.
>
>
>
> I donât know about current
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote:
>
> I was confirming what Share was talking about. It means a much shorter
> distance in general between desire, and fulfillment of same.
And how does one go about measuring it?
Or is it one of the many promises I came across in
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote:
> >
> > > Yes, with practice, TMSP leads to near perfect mental/
> > > physical integration.
> >
>
I was confirming what Share was talking about. It means a much shorter distance
in general between desire, and fulfillment of same.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote:
>
> > Yes, with practice, TMSP l
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote:
> Yes, with practice, TMSP leads to near perfect mental/physical integration.
Catchy little soundbite, but what does it actually mean?
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 8:04 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
>
>
> Â
> snip
>
> TM is not the static believerism you make it out to be. You have NO IDEA
> about the techniques' long term
ave been wondering that for
a while now but I have my theories and won't bore anyone with them right
now.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: navashok no_re...@yahoogroups.com
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 7:24 AM
&
roups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 11:21 AM
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders to Michael
From:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Share Long
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 10:32 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogro
On 03/06/2013 05:50 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote:
>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
My point is that a lot of these discussions are, from
my point of vie
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Share Long
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 10:32 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders to Michael
There ABSOLUTELY is a checking for TMSP
From: seekliberation
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 7:28 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
>
>
> Â
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
> >More to the point, if TM
AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
Thank you, Navashok!
You post has actually answered my questions about mantras. In my opinion, the
fact that there is no sort of checking for sidhis means the idea that the
meaningless sound theory of the mantras is nonsense
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
>
> you are an idiot -
And you're our FFL bully. What will happen to you is the same as what happens
to all bullies in time, the are left empty-handed.
lle says that a sincere seeker can become
enlightened, or whatever we want to call it, even if the teacher is corrupt!
From: Ann
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 10:01 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Chee
bject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
> > >
rmed a few times in my life, not through meditation, but through
being destroyed.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: navashok no_re...@yahoogroups.com
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 4:49 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLif
_
> From: "doctordumbass@..."
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 8:04 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
>
>
> Â
> snip
>
> TM is not the static believerism you make it out to be. You h
_
From: seekliberation
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 7:28 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
>More to the point, if TM practitioners committed to
>Maharishi'
ordination.
From: "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 8:04 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
snip
TM is not the static believerism you make it out to be. You hav
taneous. This is based on my experience, not something anyone said. Â
> Â Â
>
>
>
>
>
> From: navashok
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 4:49 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Chee
6, 2013 9:04 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
The only people I see repeating what they were TOLD are you and MJ, repeating
over and over again, what you TELL yourselves. The thing you haven't recognized
about TM, *since you don't do it*, is that the practi
"A poignant example of this, related to me by at least
half a different spiritual teachers from traditions
other than TM..."
*How* many??
ch
others proclivities.
From: seekliberation
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 8:28 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
>More to the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > All MMY claimed about TM man
The only people I see repeating what they were TOLD are you and MJ, repeating
over and over again, what you TELL yourselves. The thing you haven't recognized
about TM, *since you don't do it*, is that the practice keeps you moving.
TM is not the static believerism you make it out to be. You hav
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
> > >
> > > My point is that a lot of these discussions are, from
> > > my point of view, falling prey to one of the m
Really? I had not heard of Marshy giving out "ram" as the original TM mantra
before - that is interesting.
From: turquoiseb
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 6:06 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Ch
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
> >
> > My point is that a lot of these discussions are, from
> > my point of view, falling prey to one of the most
> > chronic TM fallacies. People repeat stuff they were
> > TOLD
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
>More to the point, if TM practitioners committed to
>Maharishi's Purusha or Mother Divine programs, and
>thus chose to effectively becomes monks or recluses,
>were they re-initiated using a more "appropriate"
>recluse mantra?
I wasn't on
rfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 4:49 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote:
>
> > All I know is this:
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
> > >
> > > All MMY claimed about TM mantras was:
> > >
> > > 1) they are not om or some other monk-oriented mantra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
> >
> > All MMY claimed about TM mantras was:
> >
> > 1) they are not om or some other monk-oriented mantra (if
> > there are any, in his mind);
> >
> > 2) he deemed them to be suit
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote:
>
> > All I know is this:
> >
> > I am not a meditator by nature. I like to do things, run around, play, get
> > dirty, eat, be competitive at sports, read. The list goes on. What I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote:
> All I know is this:
>
> I am not a meditator by nature. I like to do things, run around, play, get
> dirty, eat, be competitive at sports, read. The list goes on. What I believe
> MMY was brilliant at was to appeal to others like me, those n
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
>
> All MMY claimed about TM mantras was:
>
> 1) they are not om or some other monk-oriented mantra (if there are any, in
> his mind);
>
> 2) he deemed them to be suitable for householders;
Since TM mantras are for householders, are ther
este37
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 7:36 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
>
>
> Â
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife
it was all their
hard efforts that caused it.
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 5:23 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
--- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
>
> You are repeating TM propagand
shi for saying meditation should
be easy.
(snip)
> From: feste37
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 7:36 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
> Perfect! And one has to remember that some of the effortless forms of
> me
eldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 8:23 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
>
>
> Â
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
> >
> > You are repeating TM propaganda crap, as if the only other
&
ty
> bija mantras. Do a search for "bija mantra" (or "beeja"
> or "beej"), Michael, you'll find 'em all over the Web.
> They're said to be especially powerful, but they're not
> unique to TM.
>
> > ________________
>
uperior to all
> others. If not, what would then make TM better than other meditations?
>
>
>
>
>
> From: sparaig
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 1:12 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question fo
n.6569@...
> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 6:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
>
>
> Â
> I'm not sure M ever said the mantras he gave were *superior*. It's
yeah well that's part of the problem, putting your "enlightenment" in someone
else's hands
From: authfriend
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 8:23 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
>
> I believe that we are all Pure Awareness, or something like that, Unbounded
> Awareness whatever you call it. I believe the reason we can "transcend" is we
> are naturally that state, or energy. That is our essence.
>
>
> We a
> From: Mike Dixon
> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
> Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 6:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
>
>
> Â
> I'm not sure M ever said the mantras he gave were
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
>
> You are repeating TM propaganda crap, as if the only other
> techniques are concentration and you know that is not true.
That's not his point. The point is that *any* effort
impedes transcending. Even TMers who think they're
followi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > What Maharishi did, IMHO, was to think deeply
> > about the nature of intention, of mental effort,
> > and how easy it was for instruction to lead the
> > student to exert
meditation, other than that Marshy said so.
From: Mike Dixon
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
By the way, M used to say, in regards to mantras
nothing else like it available at the time??? What the hell do you think the
Indians did back then?
From: feste37
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 7:36 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
--- In
Well said.
From: feste37
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 4:36 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
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ons makes it better than any other.
From: Mike Dixon
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 6:15 PM
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I'm not sure M ever said the mantras he gave
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
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> > Okay, not superior but better - he absolutely said many times
> > that TM was the best meditation to do.
>
> For householders, that is.
>
> > I wish some other T
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
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> Okay, not superior but better - he absolutely said many times
> that TM was the best meditation to do.
For householders, that is.
> I wish some other TM teachers here would weigh in on this
> and explain to me how the instructions
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From: Mike Dixon
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
I'm not sure M ever said the mantras he gave were *superior*. It's the
naturalness and e
, March 5, 2013 1:43 PM
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But you don't need TM to do that - so what about TM mantras are special? Cuz if
it isn't the mantras, you can't seriously think the simple instructions given
in the checking notes for example a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
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> Its not about wanting to hear anything in particular, its
> about wanting to hear something CREDIBLE.
Michael, the list of things you're willing to find
CREDIBLE is nonexistent in this case.
> I didn't think there would be anyone w
2013 5:05 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
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> But you don't need TM to do that
TM makes it very easy and systematic. The instructions
are designed to keep you from getting in your own way.
&
because it isn't what you
want to hear, Michael.
>
> From: Mike Dixon
> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
> Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 4:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
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> Â
> Correct, the actual instruct
itation methods?
From: Mike Dixon
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
Correct, the actual instructions on meditation are simply like taking the
correct angle on a diving board.
m all over the Web.
They're said to be especially powerful, but they're not
unique to TM.
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> From: Michael Jackson
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> Sent: Tuesday, Ma
b.
They're said to be especially powerful, but they're not
unique to TM.
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> From: Michael Jackson
> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
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&
Natural effortlessness.
From: Michael Jackson
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Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 10:31 AM
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Oh come on - Marshy always said TM was better
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Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 1:12 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
All MMY claimed about TM mantras was:
1) they are not om or some other monk-oriented mantra (if there are any, in his
mind);
2) he deemed them to be suitable for householders;
3) some
All MMY claimed about TM mantras was:
1) they are not om or some other monk-oriented mantra (if there are any, in his
mind);
2) he deemed them to be suitable for householders;
3) some mantras were more suitable for some people than than others, and he
chose a simple set that was reasonably ben
They are superior in that if you pay for them, it fills up the TMO's pockets
with more money. More money = Superior.
seekliberation
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> My question is, if the TM mantras are superior, how are they superior?
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