Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-22 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yes, I agree - I have become aware, through all of this, of a past life, pointing in this direction - prior meditation experience, and life as a monk. As developed as my meditation was then, the whole 'monk' thing was premature, to say the least - From what little I recall, I knew my father

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-22 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing   On 5/21/2014 11:29 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-22 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
That's neat Jim. It is always interesting when one can connect the dots. And, from what you have described about growing up in the Asian part of the world, it sure seems to make sense. Thanks for sharing that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Yes, I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-22 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Sure - My only problem has been, trying to clean up all the loose ends, redefine the goal, and get there, in just one life-time - efficiency to the max, and, boy, has it been max. As I remarked to a friend recently, that is why I am now living in a trailer park, ten miles from Paradise -

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-22 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
*From:* 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, May 21, 2014 10:53 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing On 5/21/2014 11:29 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-22 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing On 5/21/2014 11:29 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-22 Thread salyavin808
I'm glad you're being philosophical about it Lawson old chap. May I ask what elective surgery means? I'm hoping it means they'll do it next week, free of charge but I fear there might be a catch to that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : I dont' count myself

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-22 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
I'm not being philosophical about it. One part of me was marveling at how unconcerned I was, even when I had some concern it might be a sign of advanced cancer. I made sure that someone had witnessed me saying that my once-and-future son's mom was heir, beneficiary of my estate AND trustee,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-22 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : I'm not being philosophical about it. One part of me was marveling at how unconcerned I was, even when I had some concern it might be a sign of advanced cancer. Well, you're a trooper at any rate! I made sure that someone

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-22 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing   I'm glad you're being philosophical about it Lawson old chap. May I ask what elective surgery means? I'm hoping it means they'll do it next week, free of charge but I fear there might be a catch to that. ---In FairfieldLife

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-21 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
walks while praying to Marshy and Benjy Creme? From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 8:38 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing History will prove Maharishi to be right on this issue, again

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-21 Thread salyavin808
think, based on what Marshy the fake guru said that all athletes should stop being athletic. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 8:31 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-21 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
exercise training and survival rates. View on www.news-medical.net Preview by Yahoo   From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-21 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
star - died age 85 The list goes on and on and not a goddamn one of 'em ever did TM. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-21 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/21/2014 11:29 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: The list goes on and on and not a goddamn one of 'em ever did TM. For someone who claims to know how to use a computer, your search capabilities really suck. Go figure. List of athletes who have learned TM:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-21 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/21/2014 9:42 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Oooo, beautiful pool, Richard. You'll have to throw a pool party for FFL (-: We put our house in San Antonio up for sale and moved into a two-bedroom apartment - east-facing entrance, ground floor, across from the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-21 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/21/2014 6:33 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: You know as well as I do that Marshy would say one thing in private, and something else very different in public to make sales. So, how many times did you meet with MMY in private? Apparently zero - go figure.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-21 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 5/21/2014 6:33 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: You know as well as I do that Marshy would say one thing in private, and something else very different in public to make sales.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-20 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Much of B's three posts on the subject today rang true, I know people still who don't do exercise because they think it will stress them in some way. I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-20 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
What you say is fine. Again, I was well aware of this limited number of breaths things. It never stopped me, or anyone I knew from engaging in rigorous activity. In my case, during my MIU years and after, playing tennis, or other sport that met my fancy. So, it may be that you are making

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-20 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Ahh, I had forgotten about the obsession with drinking warm water all the time. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 2:50 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-20 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing   What you say is fine.  Again, I was well aware of this limited number of breaths things.  It never stopped me, or anyone I knew from engaging in rigorous activity.  In my case

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-20 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Much of B's three posts on the subject today rang true, I know people still who don't do exercise because

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-20 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
for the heart? Or the lazy walk and talks we all remember from our residence courses? From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing What

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-20 Thread nablusoss1008
, mjackson74@... wrote : From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing What you say is fine. Again, I was well aware of this limited number

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-20 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
and take lazy walks while praying to Marshy and Benjy Creme? From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 8:38 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing   History will prove

[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-20 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 8:38 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing History will prove Maharishi to be right on this issue, again. Health benefits of jogging or heavy

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-20 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/20/2014 1:50 AM, salyavin808 wrote: The only judgement I would make here is that they have a role model they trust utterly who doesn't seem to have much of a clue about anything really. It would be easy to say it's their own stupid fault for taking it too seriously and following a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-20 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/20/2014 7:03 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Ahh, I had forgotten about the obsession with drinking warm water all the time. Addressing the important issues! It's an obsession only if you insist on drinking Ozarka filtered spring water, out of a plastic

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-20 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/20/2014 7:07 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Come on Steve, what kind of walking did Marshy recommend? Brisk walking that's good for the heart? Or the lazy walk and talks we all remember from our residence courses? According to Helen Olsen, when Charlie

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-20 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/20/2014 7:30 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Probably just a normal gait. He never really specified. It has already been established how long some of the informants on this list sit around not exercising or walking - the messages here are all time-stamped. /Unless

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-20 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Richard, Dr. Mercola markets a little gadget that beeps every fifteen minutes. He recommends that those who sit a lot should get up and exercise every 15 minutes. he says other kinds of exercising are not adequate if one is sitting at a computer all day long. On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 12:58

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-20 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/20/2014 7:54 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: So are you saying then that all the soccer athletes, the rugby players and all the other athletes in the world should give up their chosen lives, stop exercising and just do TM and take lazy walks while praying

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-20 Thread emilymae...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Share, do you have one of these? What kind of exercise are you talking about - walking? How long should the breaks be? Have you ever tried what you are forwarding from Dr. Mercola? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Richard, Dr. Mercola markets a little gadget

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-20 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Emily, no I don't have a timer. I'm thinking of getting on my rebounder every 15 minutes. But probably I should also do some weight lifting and stretching... On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 1:06 PM, emilymae...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:   Share, do you have

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-20 Thread emilymae...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Well Share, I have been exposed to a timer that went off every 15 minutes and I can assure you that it is the most irritating, annoying thing ever. Just go outside, dear, and take a walk. Bring 1 or 2 pound weights with you. Breathe deeply. Join a gentle stretching class. You will be fine.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-20 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thanks, Emily. Supposedly rebounders are good for improving bone density and strength of the immune system. Plus it's fun! I walk lots of places like the post office and library and there are lots of beautiful trees along the way. I am not only fine, I am blessed. imho... On Tuesday, May 20,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-20 Thread emilymae...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yes, I remember when those came back into vogue in the alternative/health and wellness industry. My mother has one and tried to sell me on it. Someone gave the kids one and it lasted a fair amount of time out in the back yard. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-20 Thread emilymae...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Wonderful...life has just begun. I am kind of anti-social I think; those RV spots are typically way too closely spaced for my comfort zone. :) However, not during all months. If you haven't been to Utah, Highway 12 (Escalante) up to Capital Reef National Park is a little less populated than

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-20 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yep - this is a (non)mobile home park, so the spaces are larger, but I still felt very exposed the first couple of weeks - in fact I have a large enough lawn to maintain, I bought a cordless weed whacker and keep running out of batteries before all the cutting is done - I let it go for about 3

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-20 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
praying to Marshy and Benjy Creme? From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 8:38 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing History will prove Maharishi to be right on this issue, again. Health benefits

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-20 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
athletic. From: steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 8:31 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing   You really make some strange connections

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-20 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing What you say is fine. Again, I was well aware of this limited number of breaths things. It never stopped me, or anyone I knew from engaging in rigorous activity. In my case, during my MIU years and after, playing tennis, or other sport

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-20 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/20/2014 9:15 PM, lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: MMY was never a fan of extreme sports, obviously, but perhaps you missed teh memo: latest thinking on aerobics is that too much is detrimental to your health. Never let it be said that MMY didn't know how to organize a yoga

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-20 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/20/2014 7:41 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I mean, he claims the evidence on exercise is controversial, so he must think, based on what Marshy the fake guru said that all athletes should stop being athletic. Which is more important - /attaining the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-20 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 8:31 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing You really make some strange connections sometimes Michael. Or are they linkages. I don't know, but I think you are somewhat alone in not being able to make distinctions along these lines

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-20 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : You really make some strange connections sometimes Michael. Or are they linkages. I don't know, but I think you are somewhat alone in not being able to make distinctions along these lines. As I have said, MJ is a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-19 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 12:24 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Lawson, Curtis

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-19 Thread nablusoss1008
Curtis is an amateur philosopher, we knew that already. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 5/17/2014 8:29 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Yes, I *do* agree with him in believing that Maharishi was WAY off in coming up with

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-19 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:   From: curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 12:24 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing ---In FairfieldLife

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
like this, both arrogant, and empty. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 12:24 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-19 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/19/2014 3:49 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: Curtis is an amateur philosopher, we knew that already. We have not seen any evidence that MUM produces good philosophers, by Curtis's own account. Do they even teach Eastern systems of philosophy such as the Six Systems? Go figure. ---In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-19 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Richard wrote: 'If MMY was way off, then you'd have to disagree with Immanuel Kant, Johann Gottlieb Fichte, Friedrich Wilhelm Joseph Schelling, Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel and Arthur Schopenhauer and the whole of German idealism. This would be a monumental task for anyone, even someone with

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-19 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 12:24 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing ---In FairfieldLife

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-19 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
19, 2014 12:24 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Lawson, Curtis and others, do you think a FULLY developed human has an unconscious or subconscious? I think that such a person would be fully conscious

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-19 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 12:24 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing ---In FairfieldLife

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-19 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
19, 2014 12:24 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Lawson, Curtis and others, do you think a FULLY developed human has an unconscious or subconscious? I think that such a person would be fully conscious

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-19 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 12:24 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 12:24 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Lawson, Curtis and others, do you think a FULLY developed human has an unconscious or subconscious? I think

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-19 Thread salyavin808
@... wrote : From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 12:24 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Lawson, Curtis

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-19 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The reason you get attacked, Barry, is that you're so fucking nasty in sharing your great wisdom with us. You make all kinds of gratuitously demeaning assumptions about the TMers here, many if not most of which are simply not true; and you consistently exalt yourself as superior. Plus which,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 12:24 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Lawson

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-19 Thread salyavin808
Funny thing this, I do TM twice a day and have never felt demeaned by a Barry rap on the TMO, in fact I agree with a lot of it as I worked there too and saw much unwitting (perhaps) cultish behaviour and plain gullibility and stupidity from my fellow devotees. Much of B's three posts on

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
But Judy, don't you see the pious little halo above his head? I love it when he pulls his Saint Barry trip - the last resort. Let's see, he's tried shooting the messenger, flip-flopping like a fish on a boat bottom, doubling down, reversing course, reloading, and shooting the messenger,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Barry is hardly the one to be pointing fingers at others, because of their life-style or behavior. Sure the TMO is screwed up in some ways. We all know that. However, Barry just uses that as an excuse to trot out the same old crap. The beef I have with him, is, he is badly confused with

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-19 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Demeaning the TMO is one thing. Demeaning the TMers here is quite another. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Funny thing this, I do TM twice a day and have never felt demeaned by a Barry rap on the TMO, in fact I agree with a lot of it as I worked there

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Hi 'M, I responded earlier, but perhaps hit cancel instead of send, so, like I said - Pick-axe - next to a sledge hammer, my favorite demo tool - have taken out some serious root systems with one. And, yes, I am living in a trailer park, in my RV, in Chico, which I enjoy - it is like living in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-19 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : The reason you get attacked, Barry, is that you're so fucking nasty in sharing your great wisdom with us. You make all kinds of gratuitously demeaning assumptions about the TMers here, many if not most of which are simply not

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-19 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
@... wrote : From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 12:24 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Lawson, Curtis

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-19 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Much of B's three posts on the subject today rang true, I know people still who don't do exercise because they think it will stress them in some way. I knew people who believe the secret to long life is not breathing too

[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-18 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I had trouble picking which tirade to respond to so i landed on this one by default. The messages from you are pretty much the same and provide a nice writing prompt. I will respond from two perspectives, from Maharishi's teaching POV and my own. You are attempting to launch an unpleasant

[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-18 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Just for da record... I don't need to go into any detail here but just can mention that subjective experiences were never evaluated separated from behavior. I believe that Maharishi got that right. I don't need to say any more about that because you provided more than enough information for

[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-18 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Just for da record... I don't need to go into any detail here but just can mention that subjective experiences were never evaluated separated from behavior. I believe that Maharishi got that right. I don't need to say any more

[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-18 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Comments below... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Just for da record... I don't need to go into any detail here but just can mention that subjective experiences were never evaluated separated

[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-18 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Just for da record... I don't need to go into any detail here but just can mention that subjective experiences were never evaluated separated from behavior. I

[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-18 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Comments below... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Just for da record... I don't need to go into any detail here but just can

[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-18 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
A note: witnessing ala the research on Cosmic Consciousness is a state that appears to be highly unusual. It is associated with coherent alpha-1 EEG in the frontal lobes of the brain. There's no way that I am aware of to induce coherent alpha-1 EEG in someone. Researchers have induced

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-18 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
. From: lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 5:50 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing   A note: witnessing ala the research on Cosmic Consciousness is a state that appears

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-18 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Ann wrote: Of course, one would also have to define bad behavior beyond the obvious. Share replies: It's an interesting exercise when you consider that in the Gita Lord Krishna was basically telling Arjuna to kill people. But to do so established in Being. I think the ultimate consequence of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-18 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
are in that case just sitting around congratulating themselves for brain flatulence. From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 5:50 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing A note

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-18 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing   Ann wrote: Of course, one would also have

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-18 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing   Ann wrote: Of course, one would also have to define bad behavior beyond the obvious

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-18 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing Ann wrote: Of course, one would also have to define bad behavior beyond the obvious. Share replies: It's an interesting exercise when you consider that in the Gita

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-18 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 6:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing   It really doesn't matter if she is OK with it or not, as not matter what, that person

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-18 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing   Ann wrote: Of course, one would also have to define bad behavior beyond the obvious. Share replies: It's an interesting exercise when you consider that in the Gita

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-18 Thread emilymae...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
by someone established in Being is just fine with you. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-18 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing   Ann wrote: Of course, one would also have to define bad behavior beyond the obvious. Share

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-18 Thread emilymae...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
in Being is just fine with you. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing Ann wrote: Of course

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-18 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing A note: witnessing ala the research on Cosmic Consciousness is a state that appears to be highly unusual. It is associated with coherent alpha-1 EEG in the frontal lobes of the brain. There's no way that I am aware

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-18 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing Ann wrote: Of course, one would also have to define bad behavior beyond the obvious. Share replies: It's

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-18 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing Ann wrote: Of course, one would also have to define bad behavior beyond the obvious. Share replies: It's an interesting exercise when you consider that in the Gita Lord Krishna was basically telling Arjuna to kill people. But to do so established

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-18 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/17/2014 8:29 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: The phenomenon of witnessnessing can be *generated*, merely by stimulating the proper areas of the brain. Furthermore, once the subject has experienced it via stimulation, it is possible for them to bring on that experience

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-18 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/17/2014 8:29 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Yes, I *do* agree with him in believing that Maharishi was WAY off in coming up with any meaningful interpretations of and descriptions of consciousness and what it means. If MMY was way off, then you'd have to disagree with

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-18 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Ann wrote: Of course, one would also have to define bad behavior beyond the obvious. Share replies: It's an interesting exercise when you consider that in the Gita Lord Krishna was basically telling Arjuna to kill people. But to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-18 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing Ann wrote: Of course, one would also have to define bad behavior beyond the obvious. Share replies: It's an interesting exercise when you consider that in the Gita Lord Krishna was basically telling Arjuna to kill people. But to do so

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-18 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 5/17/2014 8:29 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: The phenomenon of witnessnessing can be *generated*, merely by stimulating the proper areas of the brain. Furthermore, once the subject has

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-18 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing   Ann wrote: Of course, one would also have to define bad behavior beyond the obvious. Share replies: It's an interesting exercise

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-18 Thread emilymae...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
killed by someone established in Being is just fine with you. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis

[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-17 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
LOL - This is Hilarious, Barry! HA! I wouldn't be so quick to denigrate witnessing, something you were lording over the rest of us, on FFL, just recently. If witnessing means so damned little to you, why does everyone on this forum, know how long you lasted, with your very limited witnessing,

[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-17 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : A rap for Curtis, now that the Jim-bot has shouted himself out and probably fallen asleep. For obvious reasons, I didn't want to get involved with Jim while he was busy doing his Biff Tanner imitation. He's clearly-out-of-control

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