Re: [Finale] Playback of hidden notes

2002-07-16 Thread Mark D. Lew
At 5:31 PM 07/15/02, Crystal Premo wrote: I think the very nature of hiding notes makes them not play back. However, when you use the Staff Style that makes a layer become invisible, they still play back. I click on Staff Tool, then highlight the measure, then type B on the MAC. Makes it

[Finale] Music fonts for 1st / 2nd repeat bracket

2002-07-16 Thread Johannes Gebauer
I asked this some time ago, but noone answered, so I try again: Is there any way to use the numbers from a music font (Maestro or Engraver) for the numbering of repeat brackets, including a dot, ie 1. and 2.? Currently the dot is misplaced. Anyone know a solution? Johannes --

[Finale] My Own Wishlist to Coda (Mac, quite long)

2002-07-16 Thread Matthew Hindson
FWIW, here is the wishlist that I'm going to send to Coda for future versions of Finale. Some of them have been discussed recently on this list, others are more longstanding and/or esoteric. If anyone wants to copy and send any in to Coda, be my guest! Matthew GENERAL PROGRAMME

Re: [Finale] RE: orchestral MIDI

2002-07-16 Thread Harold Steinhardt
Exactly! Finale is a NOTATION program with rudimentary midi capabilities - it is not a sequencer. When you want minute detail over midi playback, dump the midi data to a program designed to do that, like Logic or Performer. Use the right tool for the right job. All this complaining about midi

Re: [Finale] Articulation substitution (Explain this one!)

2002-07-16 Thread Jari Williamsson
Richard Yates writes: A little investigation showed that the lower case letters were the Articulation Metatool keys that I had assigned to the respective articulations! Is that strange or what? Any suggestions? Have you been able to recreate it from a Finale file yourself? Did you get

Re: [Finale] Beam Me Up, Please

2002-07-16 Thread Charles Small
Bob Clifton wrote: The beams for a group of four sixteenth notes in Layer Two are partially obscuring the notehead for an eighth note in Layer One. I thought, well I'll just nudge the beam(s) up or down a little and that will fix it (though I'd never encountered the problem before). I got

Re: [Finale] Finale wish list

2002-07-16 Thread Mark D. Lew
At 10:23 AM 07/15/02, Andrew Stiller wrote: The ability to copy a text block (including the frame) from one location to another. This would not enable a block to appear on two discontinuous pages, but would also allow you to make a dupe and then edit the copy separately. That does sound handy.

Re: [Finale] Inserting a clef change-Bass clarinet

2002-07-16 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 11:16 AM 07/16/02, Christopher Zello wrote: I'm having a lot of trouble getting a clef change to appear in a bass clarinet part. Premise: I'm trying to write a bass clt. part which moves between treble and bass clef. I need the ability to change clefs at the beginning of a bar and, at

Re: [Finale] My Own Wishlist to Coda (Mac, quite long)

2002-07-16 Thread Robert Patterson
On Tue, 16 July 2002, Matthew Hindson wrote * some sort of list to show you which keys have not yet been assigned to metatools (i.e. which ones you can assign without wiping out existing ones) I would expand this request to disconnect the programming of metatools from the shift key and

Re: [Finale] Inserting a clef change-Bass clarinet

2002-07-16 Thread Robert Patterson
On Tue, 16 July 2002, Christopher Zello wrote I'm having a lot of trouble getting a clef change to appear in a bass clarinet part. In the Staff Attributes..Transposition dialog, uncheck Set to Clef. -- Robert Patterson http://RobertGPatterson.com

Re: [Finale] Beam Me Up, Please

2002-07-16 Thread Bob Clifton
At 11:15 AM 7/16/02 -0400, Charles Small wrote: Bob Clifton wrote: The beams for a group of four sixteenth notes in Layer Two are partially obscuring the notehead for an eighth note in Layer One. I thought, well I'll just nudge the beam(s) up or down a little and that will fix it

Re: [Finale] Music Fonts

2002-07-16 Thread Patrick Hubers
--Op 15-07-2002 18:59 -0400 schreef Éric Dussault: ... Susato is the font I have yet never seen (or I don't know I've seen it!). Has someone a .pdf or something for me to see how it look? You can answer to me personally. I think that Klemm (the German distributor of Finale and the Medieval

Re: [Finale] Music Fonts

2002-07-16 Thread Patrick Hubers
--Op 15-07-2002 18:29 -0700 schreef Philip Aker: I forgot to mention Revere. It comes with Graphire Music Press and I believe it is available as a separate purchase as well. Mais, ca coute tres cher. I find it's G clef _most_ pleasing. I wasn't aware that this was available separately, else

Re: articulation metatool mnemonics (was Re: [Finale] Anotheritem for the wish list)

2002-07-16 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 16.07.2002 9:34 Uhr, Mark D. Lew wrote I'd be interested to know how others choose letters for their articulation metatools for multiple placement of the same symbol. My own scheme (which I'm not necessarily recommending to anyone else...) is that my main metatool is the first letter of

Re: [Finale] Beam Me Up, Please

2002-07-16 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 16.07.2002 15:09 Uhr, Bob Clifton wrote The beams for a group of four sixteenth notes in Layer Two are partially obscuring the notehead for an eighth note in Layer One. I thought, well I'll just nudge the beam(s) up or down a little and that will fix it (though I'd never encountered the

Re: [Finale] Music Fonts

2002-07-16 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 16.07.2002 9:08 Uhr, Patrick Hubers wrote I forgot to mention Revere. It comes with Graphire Music Press and I believe it is available as a separate purchase as well. Mais, ca coute tres cher. I find it's G clef _most_ pleasing. I wasn't aware that this was available separately, else I

Re: [Finale] RE: orchestral MIDI

2002-07-16 Thread Linda Worsley
At 11:28 PM -0500 7/15/02, Harold Steinhardt wrote: Exactly! Finale is a NOTATION program with rudimentary midi capabilities - it is not a sequencer. When you want minute detail over midi playback, dump the midi data to a program designed to do that, like Logic or Performer. Use the right tool

Re: [Finale] Flipped marcato?

2002-07-16 Thread Linda Worsley
At 11:34 PM -0800 7/15/02, Mark D. Lew wrote: (By the way, I've never called this symbol a marcato. I've always known it as a vertical accent, sometimes called a vee or a hat.) Gardner Read calls it marcato and that's good enough for me. But results may vary... Linda Worsley -- Hear the

[Finale] open file in multiple page view?

2002-07-16 Thread K. Kastning
Greetings. Win XP, WinFin2k3 Does anyone know if it's possible to set up a configuration wherein any file opened automatically opens in Page View/Show Multiple Pages? No luck in the manual so far. Thanks in advance, -kk _

Re: [Finale] RE: orchestral MIDI

2002-07-16 Thread David H. Bailey
You're absolutely right! Let's demand that Coda remove any further midi development from their wish-list. NOT! Finale is a music program -- not merely a word-processor for notation. Finale is a lot more like a full-fledged page-layout program than it is like Word in your analogy. Being

Re: [Finale] Lyrics

2002-07-16 Thread Crystal Premo
You can still use the Edit Lyrics window if you like. Just be sure to enter them in a separate verse, set to the same font and baseline. I was thinking that that might be a possible solution as well. It still seems that it would be an improvement to be able to un-click assign, perhaps by

Re: [Finale] RE: orchestral MIDI

2002-07-16 Thread Harold Steinhardt
On Tuesday, July 16, 2002 12:43 PM, David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Finale is a music program -- not merely a word-processor for notation. Finale is a lot more like a full-fledged page-layout program than it is like Word in your analogy. Being deprived of being able to hear full,

Re: [Finale] Lyrics

2002-07-16 Thread Harold Owen
You can still use the Edit Lyrics window if you like. Just be sure to enter them in a separate verse, set to the same font and baseline. I was thinking that that might be a possible solution as well. It still seems that it would be an improvement to be able to un-click assign, perhaps by

Re: [Finale] RE: Orchestral efficiency

2002-07-16 Thread Harold Steinhardt
Bravo, Linda! Well said and I agree with every word. Harold On Friday, July 12, 2002 11:38 AM, Linda Worsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This whole subject of parts extraction has interested me greatly, and I can't resist throwing my 2 cents in. My view is that: * Scores should be as compact

[Finale] Re: Finale wish list

2002-07-16 Thread Michael Cook
At 18:26 + 16/07/2002, Weldon Whipple wrote: I have never figured out how to respond to the There are too many beats in this measure dialog. I used to try to figure it out by choosing different responses whenever I entered too many notes, but I always chose the wrong button to click. The

Re: [Finale] Inserting a clef change-Bass clarinet

2002-07-16 Thread Bruce Hunter
From: David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Christopher Zello [EMAIL PROTECTED] You've gotten a couple of good answers to the technical problem -- now for the human aspect of it -- bass clarinet players don't read bass clef on that instrument. Umm, some of us actually do read more than

[Finale] misplaced flag

2002-07-16 Thread Andrew Stiller
I don't know why this problem keeps popping up, but it does: Once again, the thirty-second note flags in a file I'm working with (FinMac 2K2, Engraver Font) are too close to the 16th-note flags. Could some kind soul who knows give me the correct number to enter in whatever DB to fix this? And

Re: [Finale] Bug in Speedy Entry (2002b)

2002-07-16 Thread Burt Fenner
- Original Message - From: Mark D. Lew [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 3:34 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] Bug in Speedy Entry (2002b) Interesting. I got the distinct impression that the problem was far easier to create on my

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale wish list

2002-07-16 Thread Colin Broom
Here's another one I've just thought of (mainly because it's just been annoying me!). Midi Tool functions such as set to and scale etc, should remember the last value(d) used. It would save me quite a lot of accumulated time if the set to didn't keep defaulting back to 64, and I didn't have to

Re: [Finale] RE: orchestral MIDI

2002-07-16 Thread Bob Florence
I remember my teacher telling me: You have to see with your ears and hear with your eyes. I don't use a piano or Finale's playback. Forgive me if I sound arrogant. I am in complete agreement with Harold Stienhardt. Bob Florence Harold Steinhardt wrote: On Tuesday, July 16, 2002 12:43 PM,

Re: [Finale] RE: orchestral MIDI - maybe too long

2002-07-16 Thread Harold Steinhardt
You are right Stu. I was being quite simplistic and a little flippant in my comment. However, the best of midi playback still does not give you an honest representation of what real human beings, playing a real acoustic instruments will sound like. One simplistic example may be flutes. Sure

Re: [Finale] Inserting a clef change-Bass clarinet

2002-07-16 Thread Andrew Stiller
Second, be careful with what you're trying to do. Standard practice for bass clarinet in Bb is to write it up a major ninth, rather than the usual major second for regular Bb clarinet. In that case, the lowest written note for bass clarinet is an E below middle C, which doesn't really

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale wish list

2002-07-16 Thread Colin Broom
And another one: TUPLET TOOL Ctrl+F could flip the tuplet bracket from stem side to note side or vice versa, in a similar fashion to it works with slurs. Sure, there might still be loads of instances when you'd have to do some tweaking (as with slurs) but this could eliminate some of that and

[Finale] (Very OT) Searching for a font

2002-07-16 Thread Barbara Touburg
Dear collegues, I am searching for a font called Baker Signet, or one of its look-a-likes called Keene, Signature, Signatur Vario, or Signete. Can anyone help? Thanks! Barbara ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Finale] RE: orchestral MIDI

2002-07-16 Thread David H. Bailey
That's fine -- I suppose you never have to revise your scores after you hear them? Never change the dynamics? Never decide to add a ritard because it would sound nice, after you heard the piece without the ritard? I am very happy for everybody who pretends to be deaf like Beethoven when

Re: [Finale] Inserting a clef change-Bass clarinet

2002-07-16 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 04:56 PM 07/16/02, Andrew Stiller wrote: This is not good advice. First of all, the bass clarinet does indeed use the bass clef in the traditional notation practices of many Central and Eastern European countries, most prominently including Germany and Austria. In that notation, the

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2003

2002-07-16 Thread gj.berg
OK, one more time -- why do I not want to buy this version? Jerry Éric Dussault wrote: FinMac 2003 is now ready to ship! see coda's site. Eric ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Inserting a clef change-Bass clarinet

2002-07-16 Thread John Howell
I'm having a lot of trouble getting a clef change to appear in a bass clarinet part. Premise: I'm trying to write a bass clt. part which moves between treble and bass clef. I need the ability to change clefs at the beginning of a bar and, at other times, at the start of a measure. As best I

Re: [Finale] Inserting a clef change-Bass clarinet

2002-07-16 Thread John Howell
Andrew Stiller wrote: This is not good advice. First of all, the bass clarinet does indeed use the bass clef in the traditional notation practices of many Central and Eastern European countries, most prominently including Germany and Austria. In that notation, the instrument sounds only a major

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2003

2002-07-16 Thread John Howell
OK, one more time -- why do I not want to buy this version? Jerry Because Coda dropped the ball and it will not run on OS X. John John Susie Howell Virginia Tech Department of Music Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A. 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])

Re: [Finale] RE: orchestral MIDI [more more]

2002-07-16 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
I appreciate all the comments about this ... I know that I fought against Midi implementation 10 years ago, but I've changed my mind entirely. More than entirely. At 10:18 AM 7/16/02 -0700, Linda Worsley wrote: Don't ANY of you remember what it was like to make scores with ink and Ozalid?

Re: [Finale] open file in multiple page view?

2002-07-16 Thread Mark D. Lew
At 1:26 PM 07/16/02, K. Kastning wrote: Does anyone know if it's possible to set up a configuration wherein any file opened automatically opens in Page View/Show Multiple Pages? No luck in the manual so far. According to the Fin Mac 2k2 manual, that's a document setting. So in any given

Re: [Finale] Lyrics

2002-07-16 Thread Mark D. Lew
At 1:52 PM 07/16/02, Crystal Premo wrote: I was thinking that that might be a possible solution as well. It still seems that it would be an improvement to be able to un-click assign, perhaps by selecting a range of measures, un-assigning the lyrics, adding the new lyrics in the Edit Lyrics

[Finale] FinWin 2003

2002-07-16 Thread Jim Hale
OK - I've been reading about all the issues with MACs - but is there anything negative with the Win Version? Jim Hale --- http://hale.dyndns.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Harold Steinhardt Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 9:18 PM To:

Re: [Finale] RE: orchestral MIDI

2002-07-16 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 2:21 PM -0500 7/16/02, Harold Steinhardt wrote: If an arranger or a composer does not know what it will sound like BEFORE notating it, then they do not know their art/craft very well. If they don't already know what it will sound like, how do they determine what to write in the first place?

Re: [Finale] RE: orchestral MIDI

2002-07-16 Thread Chuck Israels
At 11:56 PM -0400 7/16/02, Christopher BJ Smith wrote: At 2:21 PM -0500 7/16/02, Harold Steinhardt wrote: If an arranger or a composer does not know what it will sound like BEFORE notating it, then they do not know their art/craft very well. If they don't already know what it will sound like,

Re: [Finale] Music fonts for 1st / 2nd repeat bracket

2002-07-16 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 17.07.2002 4:03 Uhr, Mark D. Lew wrote This is similar to the issue with expressions, isn't it? If the usual text attributes were available for this text string, you could fix any problem with tracking and/or baseline shift. No, because you cannot influence individual characters, at

Re: [Finale] FinWin 2003

2002-07-16 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 17.07.2002 5:27 Uhr, Jim Hale wrote OK - I've been reading about all the issues with MACs - but is there anything negative with the Win Version? When I first looked at the new version I wondered whether it was worth it: I don't do TAB, and there didn't seem much else. But there is a lot

[Finale] Help with using chord tool, jazz font.

2002-07-16 Thread Tammy Grimes
Normally I use a lower case B to indicate flats in a chord symbol, for example DbMaj7 or Cm7b5 chords. However, I have noticed a peculiarity when working with the jazz font. When trying to enter a new chord suffix, it wants to use the lower case B instead of the flat symbol. So when storing

Re: [Finale] My Own Wishlist to Coda (Mac, quite long)

2002-07-16 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 17.07.2002 4:03 Uhr, Mark D. Lew wrote * increased numbers of File Info items that could be used as text inserts Well, I'll be darned. I never realized that the File Info items were available as text inserts at all. Just the other day I was mentioning the Composer and Title in the