Re: [Finale] FinMac 2004b sys 9 -- horrible

2004-04-21 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 21.04.2004 14:13 Uhr, gj.berg wrote re the other command/option/shift and click screen to reduce and blammo 5%! Works fine in OS X. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2004b sys 9 -- horrible

2004-04-21 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 21.04.2004 14:16 Uhr, Philip Aker wrote On Tuesday, Apr 20, 2004, at 14:56 US/Pacific, Johannes Gebauer wrote: In fact I _really_ hope that OS 9 will be dropped for 2k5 in favour of a bug free, speedier OS X. Concerning EPS manquée, would you find Import/Export PDF facilities instead

Re: [Finale] OT: old Mac disks

2004-04-21 Thread Johannes Gebauer
I have actually had a lot of experience with this. I would never consider floppies as a save media, too many of them have failed on my. Johannes On 21.04.2004 16:48 Uhr, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote I've heard this said, but I started using floppies in 1980 (TRS-80 and Color Computer), and even

Re: [Finale] INSTALLATION ALERT - 2004B MAC

2004-04-21 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 21.04.2004 20:41 Uhr, Arkady wrote My SUGGESTION to MakeMusic is to PROMPTLY ALERT all it's User Base about that prompt VIA MASS EMAIL, and POSTING IT IN BIG RED LETTERS NEAR THE DOWNLOAD NOW BUTTON ON THEIR WEB SITE! Why? No harm was done, nor would have been done whichever choice you

Re: [Finale] to upgrade or not to upgrade

2004-04-21 Thread Johannes Gebauer
If you do not depend on EPS files (both import and export) then you should upgrade. Finale 2004 has a wealth of new features which you will love, and it runs native in OS X actually making it much more stable. It is still slow. However, for me this is now mostly the reaction to some of the

Re: [Finale] OT: old Mac disks

2004-04-20 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 20.04.2004 8:42 Uhr, Mark D Lew wrote My recently defunct Mac could read both PC disks and old 800K Mac disks. I had a pile of ancient 800K floppies which I recycled and used for backing up small files. Just be careful, floppies are _very_ unreliable for backups. Johannes --

Re: [Finale] [OT] OSX 10.3.3 Preview

2004-04-20 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 20.04.2004 21:22 Uhr, Brad Beyenhof wrote Can the Preview app in OS X 10.3.3 convert files from PDF to PS/EPS? Although I haven't tried, I guess you can use the postscript printer driver to compile a PS listing. EPS, no I don't think that's possible. Also, does it handle PDF links, like

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2004b sys 9 -- horrible

2004-04-20 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 20.04.2004 22:49 Uhr, gj.berg wrote The meta-tool resize command is all messed up -- you hit for half size and dang if it doesn't decide to go all the way down to 5%. What do you mean by the meta-tool resize command? The bubble tools are even larger -- more screen space gone. What's

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2004b sys 9 -- horrible

2004-04-20 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 20.04.2004 23:15 Uhr, Philip Aker wrote I think it best if the OS 9 version was dropped. In fact, it might have been cheaper for Coda to buy the 2 users still running it new G5s rather than pay the engineers for the several months of effort put into it. I wouldn't have put it quite as

Re: [Finale] OT: old Mac disks

2004-04-19 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 19.04.2004 15:55 Uhr, Aaron Sherber wrote Other than that, there are PC programs which let us read Mac disks. Take a look at TransMac (www.asy.com) or MacDrive (www.mediafour.com) Beware: these programs will almost certainly not be able to read old Mac 800k floppies. (As far as I know

Re: [Finale] OT: old Mac disks

2004-04-19 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 19.04.2004 16:36 Uhr, Aaron Sherber wrote Ah, yes, sorry about that -- it's been a while since I tackled this problem. Do current (or recent) Mac floppy drives read the older disks? If so, then you could get a friend to transfer the files to 1.44 disks, and then get them to a PC. Come to

Re: [Finale] OT: old Mac disks

2004-04-19 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 19.04.2004 17:01 Uhr, Phil Daley wrote At 4/19/2004 10:51 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Or just transfer them to PC Format disks, Macs with superdrives (pretty much any Mac after the SE) can format and write PC disks. And newer Macs can read the old 800K disks? At least until Macs

Re: [Finale] KeyBug?

2004-04-19 Thread Johannes Gebauer
I don't think this is related, I think I know the bug you mean. I haven't quite worked out how to get out of that dilemma, but I somehow always managed to. This has to do with some clef options that are a little difficult to understand, I guess, and certainly something is buggy, but it doesn't

Re: [Finale] Re: FinMac2004

2004-04-17 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 17.04.2004 6:03 Uhr, Darcy James Argue wrote The Staff List Manager has a Redraw button that is supposed to update the distance between staves based on the changes you've made, without closing the dialog box. This button doesn't work in FinMac2004, and I'm almost certain it's related to

Re: [Finale] Re: FinMac2004

2004-04-17 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 17.04.2004 11:40 Uhr, Darcy James Argue wrote Interesting. For me, the button doesn't work no matter how many times I press it. The screen doesn't redraw until I close the Staff List Manager. Do you also have the problem with the Edit Margins dialogs? The screen is supposed to update

Re: [Finale] Re: FinMac2004

2004-04-17 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 17.04.2004 16:49 Uhr, Darcy James Argue wrote I used to do this, but a while back I found that unchecking Save Preferences on Quit effectively eliminated the problem of preferences becoming corrupted, so I got lazy about backing them up. It seems that Fin2004 tends to corrupts

Re: [Finale] Enter key, undo shortcut bugs in MacFin2004

2004-04-16 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 16.04.2004 0:53 Uhr, Brad Beyenhof wrote On 4/15/04 3:42 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: I need to be able to make EPSs of parts of pages. I need this all the time for all sorts of things. I'm stumped. What types of projects require part-of-page EPS files? Entering bits of music into text

Re: [Finale] MacFin2004b in Classic?

2004-04-16 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 16.04.2004 1:43 Uhr, Brad Beyenhof wrote Unless there is some trick to it that I'm not aware of, it seems that peoples' fears were true -- there does not appear to be any way to run MacFin2004b in the Classic environment. Or am I missing something? The website says that the download

Re: [Finale] eps options for FinMac 2k4+

2004-04-16 Thread Johannes Gebauer
First of all I am not convinced that those EPS files work properly. PS files produced this way certainly don't. But apart from this I really need to be able to easily save parts of pages as EPS. The emphasis is on easily. Such work arounds are far too much work for a work flow that worked fine in

Re: [Finale] MacFin2004b in Classic?

2004-04-16 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 16.04.2004 1:30 Uhr, Eric Dannewitz wrote Um, why would you want to? Or am I missing something as well? Darcy James Argue wrote: Unless there is some trick to it that I'm not aware of, it seems that peoples' fears were true -- there does not appear to be any way to run MacFin2004b in

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Finale Authorization Code

2004-04-16 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 16.04.2004 10:27 Uhr, David H. Bailey wrote I can't even begin to understand why you would publish your User Code and Authorization code -- did you have a question about this or something? I do hope you aren't trying to publicize them so that people who have unauthorized copies can try to

Re: [Finale] eps options for FinMac 2k4+

2004-04-16 Thread Johannes Gebauer
The worst about this whole EPS dilemma is that Finale is also unable to import EPS files properly (or rather to print them properly). It seems to print them fine directly to my printer (a postscript printer, naturally) but they do not render properly to PDF. In addition Finale is also unable to

Re: [Finale] eps options for FinMac 2k4+

2004-04-16 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 16.04.2004 15:42 Uhr, Randolph Peters wrote I did some more testing with Graphics Converter and found that it easily imports and exports TIF and can convert them to EPS. You can also edit and trim the files easily in GC. The problem with the exported EPS files is that you can't see the

Re: [Finale] Enter key, undo shortcut bugs in MacFin2004

2004-04-15 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 15.04.2004 23:59 Uhr, Brad Beyenhof wrote It's not that I'm steering clear of it; I actually haven't started many new engraving projects since I got it. All continuing projects are still going on in the version I used to start them. In any case, I found that the Art department at work

Re: [Finale] Enter key, undo shortcut bugs in MacFin2004

2004-04-15 Thread Johannes Gebauer
I have not seen the problem you describe. However, I do have my own battle with keyboard shortcuts: Some of them are extremely slow and unresponsive (2 seconds until anything happens). I have worked out that this depends on the number of items in the plugin menu (including submenus). There is also

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale 2004b for Mac

2004-04-14 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 14.04.2004 11:55 Uhr, Rocky Road wrote And when I installed 2004 my 2002 lost EPS export ability also (I'm sure its a fixable font thing but I haven't sourced it yet). Download and install the fontpack, and you should be running normal again. The whole problem has to do with the faulty

Re: [Finale] Flats colliding

2004-04-14 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 14.04.2004 21:34 Uhr, Crystal Premo wrote I know there is something perfectly simple that I can't remember, but here is my problem: I have an eighth note, Ab, on layer one, and a half note, Fb, layer two, and the two flats are directly above one another. The client, of course, wants the

Re: [Finale] Plugin wish

2004-04-12 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 12.04.2004 8:35 Uhr, d. collins wrote We used to have this with Forza! Unfortunately, it expired last year. And I am on Mac, no Forza, not even last year. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___

[Finale] Plugin wish

2004-04-11 Thread Johannes Gebauer
I could really use a plugin which can copy text blocks on a per page basis from one document to another. There should be an option to copy only text blocks which are limited to that one page, or also those which appear on a page range or on all pages. Perhaps the TGTools text block transfer

Re: [Finale] Spacing with blank notation in Layer 1

2004-03-18 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 18.03.2004 16:52 Uhr, David W. Fenton wrote Is there an independent spacing library that needs to be imported separate from the Document Options library? Don't use spacing libraries in 2k3, use the spacing values. They work better, more reliably, and are easier to adjust. Johannes --

Re: [Finale] Spacing with blank notation in Layer 1

2004-03-18 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 18.03.2004 19:13 Uhr, David W. Fenton wrote Don't use spacing libraries in 2k3, use the spacing values. They work better, more reliably, and are easier to adjust. Sorry, but I have no idea what this means. What spacing values? Where? How do I get the right ones for Maestro Wide into a

Re: [Finale] No one has advice on spacing with blank notation?

2004-03-17 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 17.03.2004 0:09 Uhr, Mark D Lew wrote I still think there's something I'm forgetting. When you run TG tremolos on a bar and it creates invisible playback notes in layer 4, those notes don't affect spacing. Why not? What is TG changing that we could change manually? There must be

Re: [Finale] Spacing with blank notation in Layer 1

2004-03-17 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 15.03.2004 23:53 Uhr, David W. Fenton wrote I just upgraded an older file (I think it began life as 3.52, was converted to WinFin97, now into WinFin2K3), and I'm having fits with the spacing for any measure with blank notation in layer 1 and notes in layer 4 (that's how I implement

Re: [Finale] Spacing with blank notation in Layer 1

2004-03-17 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 17.03.2004 20:01 Uhr, David W. Fenton wrote Well, first off, I have no intention of upgrading Finale beyond WinFin2K3 until such time as Coda implements some kind of key escrow program to guarantee that if they go out of business their applications will continue to be usable. Sorry, I was

Re: [Finale] Spacing with blank notation in Layer 1

2004-03-17 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 17.03.2004 20:01 Uhr, David W. Fenton wrote I don't understand why blank notation should affect spacing. Perhaps other kinds of alternate notation should affect spacing, but blank notation worked fine in WinFin97 in regard to spacing. Actually, it doesn't work either way. It doesn't even

Re: [Finale] Spacing with blank notation in Layer 1

2004-03-17 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 17.03.2004 20:06 Uhr, David W. Fenton wrote There are work arounds. However, they involve having to change layer and/or Spacing options before spacing the measures in question. Actually, there really is no workaround. I can't turn off spacing for layer 1, because all the other music in

Re: [Finale] Spacing with blank notation in Layer 1

2004-03-16 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 17.03.2004 1:51 Uhr, David W. Fenton wrote Well, you've got to have something in the blank notation layer that is going to take up a lot of space, like the written-out notes for a trill. That's where I'm getting all the problems, with ornaments for playback. David, do you really need

Re: [Finale] Opentype fonts and Finale 2004 (Mac)

2004-03-14 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 13.03.2004 23:15 Uhr, Matthew Hindson Fastmail Account wrote From reading on the Finale forums, it seems that Finale 2004 OS X will only allow Opentype fonts to be used for certain (hopefully not all!) elements. This is causing me quite a bit of grief as the Opus Font, for example, is a

Re: [Finale] 30 day Disabled Fin2004 as a demo?

2004-03-14 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 14.03.2004 1:22 Uhr, Rocky Road wrote After 30 days without registering, Finale 2004 is still usable but cannot save or print, effectively a demo version of the software. Does anyone know if there is anything wrong with leaving this demo version installed on a computer, when you have

Re: [Finale] Opentype fonts and Finale 2004 (Mac)

2004-03-14 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Matthew, concerning the changes necessary for fonts to be used in FinMac2k4, you should read the relevant chapter 29 in the manual. You'll find this on page 37 in chapter 29. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de

Re: [Finale] Re: JW Space systems

2004-03-14 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 14.03.2002 4:04 Uhr, Rudolf van Berkum wrote I'm running Win98SE and Fin2003a, and am experiencing no difficulties using Jari's plug-ins (having reset my system back two years of course). Which is a little annoying since your messages sort in the wrong year for this mailing list. ;-)

Re: [Finale] 30 day Disabled Fin2004 as a demo?

2004-03-14 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 14.03.2004 13:20 Uhr, Rocky Road wrote I am not saying that the demo is illegal, but the version that can be made a full version with a registration code is not as such a demo. You have agreed to it's license, and that prohibits giving it away. It is true that it runs in Demo _mode_ when

Re: [Finale] 30 day Disabled Fin2004 as a demo?

2004-03-14 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 14.03.2004 13:30 Uhr, David H. Bailey wrote It may well not be the SAME demo that Finale2004 becomes after 30 days without registration. There may be something else that is disabled in the demo. For instance, are all the same fonts installed with the official demo? All the same

Re: [Finale] 30 day Disabled Fin2004 as a demo?

2004-03-14 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 14.03.2004 14:40 Uhr, Rocky Road wrote Is there a Finale 2004 macintosh demo available? Otherwise, without a Finale free for OSX, a time-out full Finale is the only thing left that would run (not that I am saying it is right to use it that way). Yes, there is a demo available. It prints

Re: [Finale] 12x18 printing on Ricoh AP2610

2004-03-11 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 11.03.2004 21:15 Uhr, Darcy James Argue wrote One thing that I haven't tried yet, but that ought to work, would be to print the left-side pages of a 9x12 2-up, then turn the printer around and print the right-side pages. Interesting concept... (Do you also turn your house to change a

Re: [Finale] JW Space systems

2004-03-11 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 12.03.2004 1:11 Uhr, Darcy James Argue wrote I would assume Jari's been really busy. I did email him, encouraging him to update his plugins for FinMac2004 and mentioning that I think lots of us would gladly pay for them if he decides he needs to start charging for the plugin set. Perhaps

Re: [Finale] WinFin 2004 speed issues

2004-03-09 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 09.03.2004 20:28 Uhr, Raymond Horton wrote I find the latest 2004 Windows update to be considerably slower in one area - Human Playback. It takes quite a long time to compile the entire file every time, even after a very minor change to the file. How can it be slower than before, there

Re: [Finale] WinFin 2004 speed issues

2004-03-09 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 09.03.2004 20:54 Uhr, Johannes Gebauer wrote On 09.03.2004 20:28 Uhr, Raymond Horton wrote I find the latest 2004 Windows update to be considerably slower in one area - Human Playback. It takes quite a long time to compile the entire file every time, even after a very minor change

[Finale] OT: Looking for a Vivaldi concerto

2004-03-08 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Hi, sorry about this off-topic post, but perhaps the united wisdom of this list can turn something up on this one: I am looking for a score or whatever else there is of a Vivaldi violin concerto, Ryom/RV 212. It has the subtitle fatto per la Solennità della S. Lingua di S. Antonio in Padua

Re: [Finale] Re: F2003a won't print to acrobat

2004-03-07 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 07.03.2004 2:19 Uhr, Christopher BJ Smith wrote This is a routine I got from this list (I think it was Johannes Gebauer, thanks loads, man!) Not me, I don't have Acrobat... Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de

Re: [Finale] Accidentals after transposition

2004-03-06 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 06.03.2004 15:09 Uhr, Crystal Premo wrote Here's another thing about transpositions: if the piece contains accidentals in parentheses and one places them as articulations, those articulations stay there in the new key whether they are wanted or not. Why do you place them as articulations?

Re: [Finale] Re: F2003a won't print to acrobat

2004-03-06 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 06.03.2004 23:08 Uhr, jef chippewa wrote is it possible that the installation CD or the finale application which it installs is corrupt somehow? Very unlikely. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___

Re: [Finale] Punctuation and Word Extensions

2004-03-05 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 05.03.2004 10:29 Uhr, Mario Aschauer wrote That is so true! I think it looks really neat. I recently did a 450page score of an oratorio - they way I did it was put in an invisible syllable (Alt+0160) followed by the punctuation. Of course, one has to adjust word extensions manually. The

Re: [Finale] FinWin 2004b

2004-03-04 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 04.03.2004 15:57 Uhr, d. collins wrote 1) Smart Word Extensions. If you happen to use lyrics for figured bass, you can't use SWE. And since the old stupid Word Extensions plug-in seems to have disappeared, there's no easy way to enter Word Extensions (they have to be entered one by one).

Re: [Finale] FinWin 2004b

2004-03-04 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 04.03.2004 17:31 Uhr, Mr. Liudas Motekaitis wrote Can't you copy the plugin from 2003 to the 2004 folder? I don't know for windows, but it wouldn't work for the Mac. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de

Re: [Finale] Punctuation and Word Extensions

2004-03-04 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 05.03.2004 2:13 Uhr, John Howell wrote At 4:33 PM +0100 2/27/04, Johannes Gebauer wrote: I don't often work with lyrics, so forgive me if this is common knowledge: Is there a way (in 2k4) to have punctuation (ie colon, comma or semi-colon) to appear at the end of the word extension line

Re: [Finale] From Your Friendly list Owner

2004-03-02 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 01.03.2004 22:14 Uhr, Brad Beyenhof wrote But this, IMO, would be worse. If the Reply-to were set to the list, the whitelist request would have been sent *to the list*, for *every* post. What's more, all of those replies would get archived and uselessly clog up the shsu.edu server. I

Re: [Finale] It's official...

2004-03-02 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Congratulations! I wish you great success. Johannes On 02.03.2004 4:39 Uhr, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote ...as of this afternoon, so I can announce it. I'm very pleased to tell my Finale friends that I have received the annual commission from the Vermont Symphony Orchestra. The new work

Re: [Finale] FinMac04 , speed, and a MIDI question

2004-03-02 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 01.03.2004 19:55 Uhr, David Froom wrote I'm working on a large orchestral piece, and am about 60 measures into it (the file is now at about 135mb). Eh, are you sure about the size? If you are correct about the file size then something is definitely wrong with the file, I have never seen a

Re: [Finale] Funny message

2004-03-01 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 01.03.2004 6:45 Uhr, Mark D Lew wrote Actually, based on the response on this list (and my own personal reaction), I think it's fair to say that people don't like spam whitelists, PERIOD. I received *12* junk emails from your spamslammer telling me I needed to fill out a form to get on

Re: [Finale] From Your Friendly list Owner

2004-03-01 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 01.03.2004 20:16 Uhr, Henry Howey wrote I did not see the Whitemail notices to the list as they were sent by a listmember. I will check with IT folks here to see if another filter is possible. I currently monitor only the DIGEST so I seem to have escaped the blizzard;-) If anyone has a

Re: [Finale] Midi problems, OSX under 9.2.2, please help

2004-02-29 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 29.02.2004 1:55 Uhr, Crystal Premo wrote 3. Instead of receiving notes from the piano, it is just entering notes from the computer keyboard whenever I try to choose the note value to accept from the piano. Check the Speedy menu, is Use MIDI device for input checked? I f not check it.

Re: [Finale] Punctuation and Word Extensions

2004-02-28 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 28.02.2004 9:52 Uhr, d. collins wrote Johannes Gebauer écrit: Since TGTools seems to have this function, if anyone knows how it works please share this with us. I have no idea. I just tried it: there's a box to tick that says Allow punctuation marks to be placed on last note of word

Re: [Finale] Punctuation and Word Extensions

2004-02-28 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 28.02.2004 11:13 Uhr, Mr. Liudas Motekaitis wrote You have to apply the puctuation by hand, then the plugin places it. Can you explain this to me, how do you apply it by hand? Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de

Re: [Finale] Punctuation and Word Extensions

2004-02-28 Thread Johannes Gebauer
You are right. I just tried it, however, I am not sure I can get this to work with Smart WEs. Johannes On 28.02.2004 11:04 Uhr, Mark D Lew wrote On Feb 28, 2004, at 12:52 AM, d. collins wrote: I just tried it: there's a box to tick that says Allow punctuation marks to be placed on last

Re: [Finale] Punctuation and Word Extensions

2004-02-28 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 28.02.2004 11:20 Uhr, d. collins wrote You're right. But then the plug-in should say allow for, and not simply allow, because Finale itself already allows you to put the punctuation on the last note. How? Or rather, yes it does allow you to put punctuation on any note, but can it put it

Re: [Finale] Punctuation and Word Extensions

2004-02-28 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 28.02.2004 11:38 Uhr, d. collins wrote Johannes Gebauer écrit: You are right. I just tried it, however, I am not sure I can get this to work with Smart WEs. I'm afraid the smart WEs aren't any smarter than the smart hyphens. I have found no use for either of these two new features

Re: [Finale] Punctuation and Word Extensions

2004-02-28 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 28.02.2004 11:19 Uhr, Mr. Liudas Motekaitis wrote Type into score. You enter, the plugin positions. Well, I wasn't expecting the plugin to apply punctuation according to grammar rules. However, I didn't realize that the punctuation has to be put on the last note. Johannes --

Re: [Finale] Just noticed Graphire manual online [plus rant]

2004-02-28 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 28.02.2004 11:54 Uhr, d. collins wrote Mr. Liudas Motekaitis écrit: The best thing to have happened in 2004 is Expressions placement. Agreed, that, and Finalescript. Have you used Finale Script? What for? Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de

[Finale]

2004-02-28 Thread Johannes Gebauer
I got this about ten times now, and I am really p%$§ssed off! Whoever is responsible for this nonsense, stop it immediately. Johannes -- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Datum: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 18:24:49 +0100 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Returned Mail: Confirmation Required - #SSID#:

Re: [Finale]

2004-02-28 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 28.02.2004 22:28 Uhr, David H. Bailey wrote I don't recall EVER seeing a post from that address on this list, so perhaps it is simply a spamming attack. I am quite surprised these are getting through the shsu spam filters! David H. Bailey They aren't. The message is sent to the

Re: [Finale] Funny message

2004-02-28 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 28.02.2004 22:33 Uhr, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Could not someone respond to the offending e-mail then, having made it to the whitelist send a private email to the offender telling him of his offence, or would that involve the sender in something undesirable? I don't know, but I have done

Re: [Finale] Anti-spam white list nonsense.

2004-02-28 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 28.02.2004 23:27 Uhr, gj.berg wrote Thing of it is -- I think I'm the guilty party -(not of the white listing thingy I hasten to add) but Phil Daley replied to my Rim shot query and in my return thank you (Thanks Andrew subsequently) I noticed it was only going directly to Phil and so

Re: [Finale] Anti-spam white list nonsense.

2004-02-28 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 29.02.2004 0:36 Uhr, David W. Fenton wrote That would be a safe assumption for every single mailing list I subscribe to *except* this one. And I have repeatedly argued that the current configuration (FROM as poster instead of the Finale list) is wrong. Not that I question your knowledge

Re: [Finale] Just noticed Graphire manual online

2004-02-27 Thread Johannes Gebauer
I am not sure whether you are joking or being serious. Whatever the case, cross staffing is much easier than that in Fin2k4. Select the notes, select the plugin, click GO and you are done. Johannes On 27.02.2004 3:10 Uhr, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote Hi all, Some time ago I mentioned some of

[Finale] Punctuation and Word Extensions

2004-02-27 Thread Johannes Gebauer
I don't often work with lyrics, so forgive me if this is common knowledge: Is there a way (in 2k4) to have punctuation (ie colon, comma or semi-colon) to appear at the end of the word extension line? Thanks, Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de

Re: [Finale] Punctuation and Word Extensions

2004-02-27 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 27.02.2004 16:40 Uhr, Mr. Liudas Motekaitis wrote There's an option in TGTools: Allow punctuation to be placed on last note of word extention. I can't get that to work, it doesn't seem to do anything. I tried with both smart Word Extensions on or off, but the colon stays before the WE.

Re: [Finale] Punctuation and Word Extensions

2004-02-27 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 27.02.2004 16:51 Uhr, d. collins wrote Johannes Gebauer écrit: I don't often work with lyrics, so forgive me if this is common knowledge: Is there a way (in 2k4) to have punctuation (ie colon, comma or semi-colon) to appear at the end of the word extension line? Why would you want do

Re: [OT] Re: [Finale] Just noticed Graphire manual online [plus rant]

2004-02-27 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 27.02.2004 16:53 Uhr, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote At 09:45 AM 2/27/04 +0100, Johannes Gebauer wrote: I am not sure whether you are joking or being serious. Whatever the case, cross staffing is much easier than that in Fin2k4. Select the notes, select the plugin, click GO and you are done

Re: [OT] Re: [Finale] Just noticed Graphire manual online

2004-02-27 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 27.02.2004 18:51 Uhr, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote It's probably clear by now that this Dennis believes where it belongs is always where the composer (or editor) wants it to be, not where the software wants it to be -- unless the two happen to agree. :) Actually, in my case the composer has

Re: [Finale] Re: Horns and signatures

2004-02-27 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 27.02.2004 20:48 Uhr, John Howell wrote Incidentally the Berlin Concertmaster Johann Gottlieb Graun produced (ie composed) some of the most difficult (ie high) horn parts in the 18th century. Haydn's Hornsignal symphony (more of a concerto grosso, actually) presupposes some darned good

Re: [Finale] Punctuation and Word Extensions

2004-02-27 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 28.02.2004 8:26 Uhr, d. collins wrote Mark D Lew écrit: Following your logic, the final consonant of should also come after the extension - since the extension is necessarily sung on a vowel. Huh?? I don't see how this has anything to do with punctuation. Well, the logic of having

Re: [Finale] Upgrading Finale on Mac OSX

2004-02-26 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 26.02.2004 15:11 Uhr, Aaron Sherber wrote If you have no need for the earlier versions on your computer, you should actually uninstall them before installing Fin2004, since uninstalling them later might actually delete some things which you still need (like music fonts). No need to

Re: [Finale] OT: Paypal in Europe

2004-02-25 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Of all the replies I got on this I have not heard a single one which actually sells through paypal, ie uses their buy now and shopping basket services. Has anyone got experiences in this field, or knows an alternative that works in Europe? Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com

[Finale] OT: Paypal in Europe

2004-02-23 Thread Johannes Gebauer
I wonder whether any European list members can tell me (privately) about their experiences with PayPal, or, if there are, any other credit card payment systems. I want to extend my online shop with credit card capabilities and am wondering whether PayPal is a good system for that (if you are not

Re: [Finale] Re: Horns and signatures

2004-02-23 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 23.02.2004 17:12 Uhr, Robert Patterson wrote (An interesting situation *with* a key signature is the 3rd movement of the Brahms Horn Trio.) And wasn't that written for a valveless natural horn? Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de

Re: [Finale] Re: Horns and signatures

2004-02-23 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 23.02.2004 17:21 Uhr, John Howell wrote Berlioz specifically recommended using 2 pairs of horns in 2 different keys so you could write more different notes by trading off horns. (And this is also the beginning of the tradition of having high specialists and low specialists in the horn

Re: [Finale] Clef after bar line at start of system

2004-02-21 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 20.02.2004 17:11 Uhr, Mr. Liudas Motekaitis wrote By the way, what happened to the dialogue for clef changes? There was an option there for always place after barline (but this wouldn't help Johannes for system starts). The behaviour changed: If anything is already selected you will get

Re: [Finale] Clef after bar line at start of system

2004-02-21 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 20.02.2004 17:10 Uhr, Mr. Liudas Motekaitis wrote It's easy now that the expression attachment scheme is programmable. Simply define your clef, its size, and define the place on the staff where you want it to attach to (measure attached). I *love* the new Expression programming (have I

Re: [Finale] OT-live concert recording

2004-02-20 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 20.02.2004 9:22 Uhr, Mr. Liudas Motekaitis wrote Johannes is correct about Audio CD's not being ideal, however, it is not true that you don't get 100% digital copies off of Audio CD's. This is widely misunderstood. The truth is: the only difference from one Audio CD to another is the

Re: [Finale] Vertical spacing

2004-02-20 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 20.02.2004 11:47 Uhr, Darcy James Argue wrote I believe Mark means increments of one staff space, which is 6 EVPUs tall. No, it's 24 EVPUs. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list

[Finale] Clef after bar line at start of system

2004-02-20 Thread Johannes Gebauer
For Cue notes it is standard to display the clef change after the barline. Especially at the beginning of a system the system should start with the normal clef, and the key signature should then be followed by the cue notes clef. This is not easily possible in Finale. Does anyone know a work

Re: [Finale] Clef after bar line at start of system

2004-02-20 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 20.02.2004 17:10 Uhr, Mr. Liudas Motekaitis wrote It's easy now that the expression attachment scheme is programmable. Simply define your clef, its size, and define the place on the staff where you want it to attach to (measure attached). I *love* the new Expression programming (have I

Re: [Finale] Vertical spacing

2004-02-20 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 20.02.2004 20:51 Uhr, Mark D Lew wrote For many years I was working on an old system on which TG Tools was inoperative, so I developed most of my habits without it. Since then, I've obtained TG, but I've only started using the few I really need and haven't explored the rest. Happy

Re: [Finale] Thanks and another question

2004-02-19 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 19.02.2004 9:27 Uhr, Ole Buck wrote Hinsictlich der Schreibweise ist zu bemerken, dass die Zusammenziehung von Werten über markante Einschnitte hinweg unbedingt zu vermeiden ist, wenn dadurch Zweifel in der Taktauffassung entstehen könnten. (Just about how to notate rhythme: to shorten

Re: [Finale] Thanks and another question

2004-02-19 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 19.02.2004 18:13 Uhr, David W. Fenton wrote As I said the before, the problem here is precisely the same as we have with beaming. For beaming we have the method available to us of grouping beams of 8ths in 4's in 4/4. For Finale to really handle 4/4 properly, it would need the same

Re: [Finale] OT-live concert recording

2004-02-19 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 20.02.2004 1:37 Uhr, David Froom wrote We thought direct to CD because of inexpensive media, and ease of transfer to computer for editing-out of applause and blank spaces. This is not an ideal media to record to. The main reason is that Audio CDs have very poor error correction and this

Re: [Finale] Vertical spacing

2004-02-19 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 20.02.2004 5:21 Uhr, Mark D Lew wrote For me, I wouldn't say almost never. However, when it does happen, my thinking is always something like: I want to add 6 points between staves A and B, and I want to subtract 6 points between staves B and C, so -- how convenient! -- I can just move B

Re: [Finale] Thanks and another question

2004-02-18 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 18.02.2004 17:11 Uhr, David W. Fenton wrote Finale is actually correct about this, because you've told it that the beat is the quarter note, and modern notational standards require that note values larger than the beat (with certain exceptions) be notated with smaller note values tied

Re: [Finale] Customizable zooms

2004-02-18 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 18.02.2004 19:30 Uhr, Richard Huggins wrote Would anyone else besides me like to have the ability to customize the zoom percentages, so that using the zoom tool took the zoom to a user-determined pecentage? For example, 200% on the first click might work for my 21 monitor, but doesn't for

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