Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

David W. Fenton wrote: On 11 Aug 2006 at 14:43, Andrew Stiller wrote: I suspect from all this that linked parts will indeed prove invaluable for chamber music, but not for orchestral. An issue that I think is highly relevant, but that only a few can probably comment on, is how the issue of v

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 Installation Options

FinGPO gives you nothing that isn't in the full GPO. It is a subset of the full product, so there is no need to install it if you already have the full GPO installed. At least, that is what everybody posted over the past year in response to that question regarding Fin2006. I have seen no pub

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

Robert Patterson wrote: Matthew Hindson Fastmail acct wrote: Do you know if it's possible to add a blank page to the part but not the linked score? Using the Finale UI there is no problem adding blank pages anywhere to a part (and not to the score). The problem lies in using a plugin to d

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

Aaron Sherber wrote: At 06:05 PM 8/11/2006, Robert Patterson wrote: >The >annual upgrade cycle is not condusive to refining old features. ...or getting new ones quite as right as they could be. That reminds me of the scene in the Marx Brothers' Duck Soup, where Groucho is the new head of s

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

Richard Yates wrote: - On a reduced staff, placement and dragging of expressions separates the expression and the handle - they move at different speeds when you drag. On Mac this has been fixed since at least Fin2004. I would be surprised if it hasn't on Win also. Or perhaps there is a speci

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

dhbailey wrote: And yet they have managed to tweak the HP function with each version since they initiated it, so there is hope. HP is a 3rd-party plugin that MM subcontracted. If that's your sole basis for hope, unfortunately, it is an exception that proves the rule. The Groucho excerpt

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 Installation Options

One big difference is that FinGPO now uses version 2.0 of the Kontakt Player. GPO full and JABB will, I'm sure, eventually be updated to use Kontakt Player 2.0, but for now I believe that FinGPO is the only library to support the new version of Kontakt Player? Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAI

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 Installation Options

At 09:20 AM 8/12/2006, Darcy James Argue wrote: >GPO full and JABB will, I'm sure, eventually be updated to use >Kontakt Player 2.0, but for now I believe that FinGPO is the only >library to support the new version of Kontakt Player? Darcy, I was hoping you'd weigh in on this. This was my unders

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 Installation Options

Aaron, I have not received my copy of Finale 2007 yet, so I can't confirm, but it looks like what Carla is talking about is just making sure Finale's Setup Wizard can see GPO and JABB. Very annoying that this isn't handled automatically! But I don't think this will cause those libraries t

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 Installation Options

Hmm. I downloaded the Fin2007 release notes, and saw this: Kontakt Player 2 for Finale and Kontakt for Finale with GPO The included KONTAKT Player 2 does not support Intel-based Macs. An updated Universal version will soon be available free-of-charge. See www.finalemusic.com for details. Th

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 Installation Options

Also, here's a thread on the Kontakt Player 2: for the time being, apparently, GPO and JABB are not usable in the Kontact 2 player. this has been discussed on the NI forum a great deal in the last week. Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PRO

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 Installation Options

--- Aaron Sherber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It would be nice to have some kind of confirmation > about this. If GPO > full and JABB are not yet compatible with Kontakt 2, > I'll bet that > some people who rely on those libraries will want to > hold off on > their Finale upgrade. Just so

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

Le 06-08-11 à 08:42, Aaron Sherber a écrit : Because not everything is linkable/unlinkable in all the ways you might want. To take just one example, Dennis Collins said he likes to have his measure numbers positioned differently in score and parts; you can't do that with linked parts. I al

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 Installation Options

On 12 Aug 2006, at 10:50 AM, Tyler Turner wrote: Just so long as it's clear - there's nothing preventing users from using GPO and JABB with Finale 2007 as they did with 2006 - these libraries still come with their older Kontakt Players, and these of course still work with Finale 2007. Finale 200

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 Installation Options

Here's a user report on Kontakt player performance under Rosetta, from the Northern Sound forums: does GPO and Garritan Studio work with Mac's Rosetta for those of us with Intel Macs? Yes/no/sort of. Th

Re: [Finale] OT: Mac Pro unveiled

At 05:45 PM 8/11/2006, David W. Fenton wrote: >For what it's worth, I think Tyler has plenty of reason to become >testy with you -- you seem to be arguing in a manner that ignores any >point he makes that goes to the heart of the dispute, while insisting >that certain things are true in the face

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

On 12.08.2006 Tyler Turner wrote: I'm not sure I understand why it's impossible, unless you're saying that each of your parts also have cover pages. This is the case, at least in parts which work out that way (ie they start the music on a left page, or the page count works out that way). I

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

On 12.08.2006 Tyler Turner wrote: Is there any chance that a different overall strategy would work better for you? I'm thinking that you might actually modify your templates so that they already have the parts generated in them. In one word, no, since I don't actually use templates for most of

Re: [Finale] OT: Mac Pro unveiled

Phil, if you're going to make your usual productive and insightful contribution to the discussion, could you at least spell my name correctly? Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://secretsociety.typepad.com Brooklyn, NY On 12 Aug 2006, at 12:06 PM, Phil Daley wrote: At 05:45 PM

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

Robt. Patterson: - Start a new document, single staff, with 4/4 time signature. In Staff Attributes check 'Independent Key Signature'. Then with the Time Signature Tool try to change the time signature to 3/4. Nothing happens - it won't change. That one is still there. But it is an absurd t

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

--- Johannes Gebauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think I may work it out anyhow, though I haven't > tested this yet. Is > it possible to unlink a text block from all parts, > even before parts are > generated, so that it won't appear in any future > parts? I must test > this, this might w

[Finale] Finale 2007 SmartMusic SoftSynth Playback not working

Hi, recieved my Finale 2007 two days ago. Finale GPO works. EPS seems to work (windows xp). But the smart music soft synth playback does not. Worked fine in 2006. In 2007 I get no sound, and when I open the midi output dialogue box and try to change the SoftSynth settings, I get "Cannot init

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 SmartMusic SoftSynth Playback not working

Hi, I could solve the problem by copying the contents of the softfont folder on the finale DVD into my component files folder. I found out I could find no soft fonts in the finale 2007 folder. Copying into the main folder or a subfolder softfonts did not work, however copying the contents int

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 SmartMusic SoftSynth Playback not working

Did you report this issue to MM? Is this an issue with the full install, or just the custom install? - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://secretsociety.typepad.com Brooklyn, NY On 12 Aug 2006, at 2:32 PM, Kurt Gnos wrote: Hi, I could solve the problem by copying the contents of the soft

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

On 12 Aug 2006 at 7:17, dhbailey wrote: > I just wish that Finale could come up with some major new notation > feature FIRST, instead of always waiting for Sibelius to do it and > then see how they can reverse-engineer it and adapt it to Finale. The speed with which MakeMusic implemented such a h

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

On 12 Aug 2006 at 7:27, dhbailey wrote: > MakeMusic introduces a new feature which isn't quite as right as it > could be. Next year, it's an old feature and we know they aren't great > at improving old features, preferring to pack in new features. Five > years/versions later, that once-new feature

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

On 12.08.2006 dhbailey wrote: I just wish that Finale could come up with some major new notation feature FIRST, instead of always waiting for Sibelius to do it and then see how they can reverse-engineer it and adapt it to Finale. Here is my favourite for such a unique feature (or does Sibeliu

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

On 12.08.2006 Tyler Turner wrote: Another possibility here for some people might be to actually add 2 blank pages at the beginning of the score instead of just 1. A text block on on the first of two blank pages in the score would not show in parts with only a single blank page. This is definit

Re: [Finale] OT: Mac Pro unveiled

On 11 Aug 2006 at 22:47, Darcy James Argue wrote: > On 11 Aug 2006, at 7:50 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: > > > So, then, you're saying that, on the Mac at least, my use of the > > analogy of printer drivers and vector-based font descriptions does > > not hold? > > Again, David, if you're intereste

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

David W. Fenton wrote: I'm on WinFin2K3, If you are still on Fin03, one of the best goodies you'll get from upgrading is autopositioning expressions. So far as saving time goes, I think this is arguably the biggest improvement since Fin03, including linked parts. -- Robert Patterson htt

[Finale] Ways Finale could get ahead of Sibelius

One of the simplest things Finale could do first is provide long slur marks that have more than 4 control points. Right now, now desktop system offers proper long slur marks. SFAIK, the only one that ever did offer them was Score. -- Robert Patterson http://RobertGPatterson.com _

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

Johannes Gebauer wrote: BTW, my current understanding is that FinaleScript booklet printing is not functional for linked parts. If anyone can get it to work, to print parts other than the top part (even that is tricky) I'd love to know. I feel certain it does not work. FinaleScript woul

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 SmartMusic SoftSynth Playback not working

Hi, I used the full install and checked everything At 20:39 12.08.2006, you wrote: Did you report this issue to MM? Is this an issue with the full install, or just the custom install? - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://secretsociety.typepad.com Brooklyn, NY On 12 Aug 2006, at 2:32 PM, K

[Finale] Two questions re: Fin2007

I have two questions about the new Finale I was hoping some early adopter might answer: 1) Is there yet decent documentation for Finalescript? I've never found it thorough describing options, and it's hard for a non-programmning type like me to understand. There've been promises of better do

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 SmartMusic SoftSynth Playback not working

Hi, found another bug. When I playback, e. g. the Puccino GPO sample score, scrolling playback, everything left of the green playback line just clears out. If this should be a feature, I want to know where to switch it off... I think it's a display bug. Kurt At 21:26 12.08.2006, you wrote:

[Finale] Finale 2007 playback scrolling display fault

Hi, I used the full install and checked everything At 20:39 12.08.2006, you wrote: Did you report this issue to MM? Is this an issue with the full install, or just the custom install? - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://secretsociety.typepad.com Brooklyn, NY On 12 Aug 2006, at 2:32 PM, K

[Finale] Finale 2007 Playback scrolling display fault

Hi, found another bug. When I playback, e. g. the Puccino GPO sample score, scrolling playback, everything left of the green playback line just clears out. If this should be a feature, I want to know where to switch it off... I think it's a display bug. Kurt At 21:26 12.08.2006, you wrote:

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 Playback scrolling display fault

I could solve this by just restarting Finale 2007. Must be some kind of memory or ressources problem. Of Finale, not of my machine, I think, since I got 2 GB RAM. Kurt At 21:55 12.08.2006, you wrote: Hi, found another bug. When I playback, e. g. the Puccino GPO sample score, scrolling playb

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

If I understand your question, Sibelius will allow you to select a note or entire passage and, with one click, convert it into a cue. You can also easily turn off the sound in the passage (or note by note if you prefer). You could also copy a passage into a new staff by highlighting the passa

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

On 12.08.2006 Robert Patterson wrote: That said, I'm not sure why you need this any more. I use CocoaBooklet for all my booklet printing needs. It's donation-ware, Universal Binary, and works great. Because Cocao Booklet needs me to make a PDF first. Because going through PDF creation in the

Re: [Finale] Two questions re: Fin2007

On 12.08.2006 Andrew Levin wrote: 1) Is there yet decent documentation for Finalescript? I've never found it thorough describing options, and it's hard for a non-programmning type like me to understand. There've been promises of better documentation for years. FinaleScript hasn't been change

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

On 12.08.2006 Richard Smith wrote: If I understand your question, Sibelius will allow you to select a note or entire passage and, with one click, convert it into a cue. You can also easily turn off the sound in the passage (or note by note if you prefer). Does this mean that Sibelius can defi

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

Yes. On the keypad (under the second tab) there is a button the toggles between full size and cue size. Select any note or passage, click the button and it becomes a cue. Click it again and it's full size. Disabling the sound (if you want) is a second step found in the properties panel. Again,

Re: [Finale] OT: Mac Pro unveiled

On 12 Aug 2006, at 3:03 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 11 Aug 2006 at 22:47, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 11 Aug 2006, at 7:50 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: So, then, you're saying that, on the Mac at least, my use of the analogy of printer drivers and vector-based font descriptions does not hold

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

On 12 Aug 2006 at 15:31, Richard Smith wrote: > If your not familiar with Sibelius, the keypad is an on screen > representation of the ten keypad on a full size keyboard. The buttons > may be clicked on screen with the mouse or selected at the actual > keyboard. There are selectable five tabs on

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 playback scrolling display fault

Kurt, Maybe it's different on Windows. On Mac, there's "Full Install" (no checkboxes) and "Custom Install." Theoretically, checking every checkbox in "Custom Install" should do the same thing as "Full Install," but if there's a problem with the installer script, the results might differ.

Re: [Finale] OT: Mac Pro unveiled

On 12 Aug 2006 at 16:45, Darcy James Argue wrote: > On 12 Aug 2006, at 3:03 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: > > > On 11 Aug 2006 at 22:47, Darcy James Argue wrote: > > > >> On 11 Aug 2006, at 7:50 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: > >> > >>> So, then, you're saying that, on the Mac at least, my use of the >

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

I think different people think and work differently and this is why a feature some like is deplored by others. Although I had almost 10 years of successful Finale experience before moving primarily to Sibelius, I much prefer the way Sibelius works. I have frequently said it seems to think more

[Finale] very TAN: Marx Bros

from IMBDb for Duck Soup: Rufus T. Firefly: And now, members of the cabinet... [pounds gavel] Rufus T. Firefly: we'll take up old business. Cabinet Member: I wish to discuss the tariff. Rufus T. Firefly: Sit down, that's new business. No old business? Very well... [pounds gavel] Rufus T. Firefly:

[Finale] Finale 2006 on 30" monitor

Is anybody running Finale @ 2560x1600 pixel resolution on Dell 3007WFP or Apple 30 ACD monitor? My Finale 2006 seems sluggish on Dell 3007 with GeForce 7800GTX (Win XP Pro). It feels like Sibelius 1 did on Mac when it came out. I know this is a lot to ask of a music program (or any program)

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

dhbailey wrote: That reminds me of the scene in the Marx Brothers' Duck Soup, where Groucho is the new head of state and at a cabinet meeting someone raises the issue of taxes. Secretary: We must discuss the taxes. Groucho: I'm sorry, that's new business, we're discussing old business right

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 GPO Usage

Ok, I've sort of been paying attention so, if I were to upgrade to Fin2007, using my one year old Mac G5, there should be no prob accessing both GPO and SoftSynth libraries, and no diff in my FinGPO playback ... right? We're just talking about the newer Intel based Macs having some

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 Installation Options

Thanks to Darcy, David Bailey, Tyler, Eric, and Jim for your answers. RBH ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

Apropos of very little, David -- thanks for the (paraphrased) Marx reference.    It's wonderful - really wonderful - to be reminded from time to time, and despite the fact I know every damned line, bit and take inside out and upside down - that after all I've been through with those Marx Bo

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 GPO Usage

--- "Dean M. Estabrook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ok, I've sort of been paying attention so, if I > were to upgrade > to Fin2007, using my one year old Mac G5, there > should be no prob > accessing both GPO and SoftSynth libraries, and no > diff in my FinGPO > playback ... righ

Re: [Finale] linked parts; many scores?

At 11:38 PM -0700 8/11/06, Tyler Turner wrote: Steps would I believe be the following (if anyone sees something I'm missing, please point it out). 1. Manage Parts dialog, new part, add all the staves to it. 2. Edit the page size to be tabloid (or letter if you're going the other way). 3. Edit t

[Finale] Finale mailing list probe message

"The Finale mailing list has received a number of bounces from you, indicating that there may be a problem delivering messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED]" Regarding bounced messages, I posted two or three months ago with a subject line that indicated that I was receiving a majority--but not all--of the

Re: [Finale] OT: Mac Pro unveiled

Darcy James Argue / 2006/08/11 / 04:18 PM wrote: >You've actually got it backwards -- OS X has progressively been >offloading more and more drawing tasks to the graphics card. It began >with the introduction of Quartz Extreme, and continued with Tiger's >Core Image. (Of course, if the Mac's