On Jan 14, 2006, at 11:41 PM, Amber R. wrote:
I have a D-Link wireless router - there are options to change from
the WEP 128 bit encryption to WPA personal.Would doing this
create enough of a wall for most people trying to hack in ?
Just turning on one of the 2 built-in restrictions
Amber--
It also sounds like a story you could sell to a TV writer. Keep us
informed as to what happens. It DOES sound like they want your
connection for something more than just checking their email and
surfing once in a while!
LaterHoward
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I think the bottom line is:
Whether or not you thinks laws are good or not, or protect people or
not, or are in favor of anarchy or not, laws do exist, usually for a
purpose.
If you feel it's ok to share YOUR wireless connection with someone
else, that's your choice.
If you feel it;s NOT ok to
Brian - Thanks so much for the feedback and guidance.
You said:
Setting a password, turning off remote admin, and making
sure you check for firmware updates once in a while (you are current
at the moment for a v3 BEFSR41) are the important things for your
setup, as I see it.
Password is
At 8:41 PM -0800 01/14/2006, Amber R. wrote:
I have a D-Link wireless router - there are options to change from
the WEP 128 bit encryption to WPA personal.Would doing this
create enough of a wall for most people trying to hack in ?
WEP will lock out 99.9%.
WPA is better (but pls remember
On Jan 15, 2006, at 1:14 PM, bobgir2004 wrote:
I did not provide sufficient info on my setup. Here it is.
DSL modem connected to the wired Linksys router.
Linksys connected to my G5 iMac via ethernet cable AND
connected to my
ancient Graphite Apple Base Station which in turns
Indeed. Aber's neighbor seems to think she's entitled to use the
connection. That's rude.
There might be other options though. I heard a friend mention that he
had some router setting that allowed him to not broadcast the SSID. I
wasn't too interested at the time so I didn't ask what brand
On Jan 15, 2006, at 6:24 PM, John Siple wrote:
broadcast the SSID. I wasn't too interested at the time so I didn't
ask what brand of router he was using. But this capability would be
a clean solution to the nosey neighbor and still allow Amber to use
her own wireless systems, which she
At 6:00 PM -0800 01/13/2006, John Siple wrote:
There are a few considerations here. I've thought about this a bit.
I have a neighbor who is running an unencrypted network. I
sometimes log on to see if network problems are because of my ISP or
because of my hardware. Mostly my connection is
At 11:52 PM -0800 01/13/2006, Clem Bacani wrote:
Drive around the neighborhood, park your car, open your laptop with
broadband wireless adapter and presto you are connected online.
Chances are you will have more than one signal within that area.
You are not stealing a signal because you are
On 13-Jan-06, at 11:52 PM, Clem Bacani wrote:
Drive around the neighborhood, park your car, open your laptop with
broadband wireless adapter and presto you are connected online.
Chances are you will have more than one signal within that area.
You are not stealing a signal because you
I totally agree on this one. I don't think the laws have caught up with the
technology yet. It's a matter of the (restating the obvious) the technology
having advanced so fast that legislation has not been able to act on the
legality of intrusion into somebody else's home network. Yes, a lot
Is it illegal if I'm visiting a person and log on with my PowerBook?
Or if 2 unrelated persons are sharing an apartment, is it illegal
for both to utilize the service?
Seems like a gray legal area.
Jerry
You will find that there usually is not a gray area at all if you
read the TOS (
This theft of service bull is nonsense!
If I buy a subscription to say, MacWorld, then leave it in
the break room at work for my coworkers to read after I've read it,
that's sharing, not stealing. If I buy bandwidth from the local telco
or cable company and let my neighbors have what
There's a difference between sitting outside a public library that
offers free internet (with the permission and understanding of their
service provider) and sitting outside someone's home and accessing a
wifi signal that wasn't locked down. To say there isn't, or that just
because it's there and
On 14-Jan-06, at 8:18 AM, Dyna wrote:
This theft of service bull is nonsense!
If I buy a subscription to say, MacWorld, then leave it in the
break room at work for my coworkers to read after I've read it,
that's sharing, not stealing. If I buy bandwidth from the local
telco or
Howard and Amber, perhaps my age is showing here, and the
fact that I don't work in the computer biz. I was raised in the day
when you were expected to pay for things like new books, bicycles,
etc But once you'd bought them they were yours and you could loan
or give your magazine or
I've also recently noticed a LinkSys open network, and I'd like to
know who it is so I could offer to help. I'm also surprised, since
our house is several hundred feet away from the nearest neighbor. I
guess they installed a high-gain antenna.
I also use a (directional) high-gain antenna
You hit the nail in the head. You are the modern day Robin Hood.
On Jan 14, 2006, at 9:33 AM, Dyna wrote:
Howard and Amber, perhaps my age is showing here, and the fact
that I don't work in the computer biz. I was raised in the day when
you were expected to pay for things like new books,
At 8:17 AM -0800 01/14/2006, Amber R. wrote:
Of course, I am sure there are hundreds of people who visit friends
with wireless connections and just open up their laptops and surf.
Is it legal ? again depends on the ISP TOS, but there can be serious
consequences.
i.e. The person paying for
At 10:18 AM -0600 01/14/2006, Dyna wrote:
This theft of service bull is nonsense!
If I buy a subscription to say, MacWorld, then leave it in
the break room at work for my coworkers to read after I've read it,
that's sharing, not stealing. If I buy bandwidth from the local
telco or
At 10:31 AM -0600 01/14/2006, Howard Katz wrote:
Have I done some signal sniffing? Sure, I'll bet we all have, just to
see if we could do it. Did I continue to do so? Nope--in fact I
tracked down the person who had the open signal in my area and advised
them to encrypt their signal.
Some
On Jan 14, 2006, at 12:52 AM, Clem Bacani wrote:
Drive around the neighborhood, park your car, open your laptop with
broadband wireless adapter and presto you are connected online.
Chances are you will have more than one signal within that area.
You are not stealing a signal because
On Jan 14, 2006, at 11:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 10:18 AM -0600 01/14/2006, Dyna wrote:
This theft of service bull is nonsense!
If I buy a subscription to say, MacWorld, then leave it in the
break room at work for my coworkers to read after I've read it,
that's sharing,
Some of our home-owner association folx patrol the neighborhood on
weekend evenings. One of the things they look for is warchalks, so
they can notify the home-owner...
Must be nice to live in such an elite neighborhood that you
can concern yourself with such crime. In my 'hood you don't
On 14-Jan-06, at 7:57 AM, Tim Collier wrote:
Right now, as I sit here typing this, if I click on the Airport
icon, I can see 3 other networks in my area. 2 are secured as is
mine. The other, it just calls itself 'linksys' is totally open.
I have been able to connect to the net with it
On Jan 14, 2006, at 8:31 AM, Howard Katz wrote:
There's a difference between sitting outside a public library that
offers free internet (with the permission and understanding of their
service provider) and sitting outside someone's home and accessing a
wifi signal that wasn't locked down. To
At 1:01 PM -0800 01/14/2006, John Siple wrote:
Is there a difference then between someone who knows how to turn
security on and someone who doesn't if they both have open networks?
An interesting question!
The latter can plead ignorance, to the ISP. The former cannot. Then
it's up to the
Personally, I do not bother with WEP, but I keep MAC address
filtering on.
Brian -
When I saw your post, I went to my Linksys BEFSR41 Router, v.3; firmware
version 1.05.00 and checked under the Security tab.
I found the following choices and their settings:
Block Anonymous
Drive around the neighborhood, park your car, open your laptop with
broadband wireless adapter and presto you are connected online.
Chances are you will have more than one signal within that area. You
are not stealing a signal because you are not intruding to someone
else's property.
I think the same things applies to ISPs. I doubt they fret over
the open WAP where someone shares access periodically to their
broke neighbor. It's the ones that facilitate the neighbor's
bandwidth-sucking p2p server, or the spammer, or ...
- Dan.
Hello Dan,
I agree - My ISP didn't
Amber,
Sounds like you should return the favor with a visit to your
neighbor (along with a member of the local law enforcement community)
to explain your position and let her try out her implied strong arm
tactic (regarding her brother dealing with you) on your new found
friend.
I
At 4:14 PM -0800 01/14/2006, Amber R. wrote:
My neighbour was back at my door this AM asking again (third time
this past week) for access and the WEP password. She was extremely
ticked off when I informed that I was still not interested or
comfortable with giving her access,
That is one
Arguing this issue is a waste of bandwith, minds will not be changed.
700MHz iBook G3
640MB Ram
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Laugha while you can monkeyboy.
Dr. Lizardo(Bukaroo Bonzai)
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On Jan 14, 2006, at 8:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
then said her brother was going to be coming by to deal with me
later.
Deal with you?
I really don't like this. Sounds to me like there needs to be a
cop sitting in your kitchen drinking coffee when he gets there.
Please, be
Hi, Listers!
After reading all those theft of service dire warnings, unenforsable
(sp.?) in my view, and considering that I live in Mexico, just across
the border from Texas, I went to see the top engineer in my Cable
Company Internet Division. The official line:
I can have 5 computers
On Jan 14, 2006, at 6:21 PM, bobgir2004 wrote:
Personally, I do not bother with WEP, but I keep MAC address
filtering on.
Brian -
When I saw your post, I went to my Linksys BEFSR41 Router, v.3;
firmware
version 1.05.00 and checked under the Security tab.
I found the following
I have a D-Link wireless router - there are options to change from
the WEP 128 bit encryption to WPA personal.Would doing this
create enough of a wall for most people trying to hack in ?
While I have been trying not to use the wireless router (given the
situation with my neighbour
Is there anyone out there who hasn't burned a music CD for a friend
or relative?
YES
Of course, many of us stick to a personal code of conduct and do
not justify our actions based on what others might do or not do.
Fortunately, most us do not throw wrappers, make noise, speed around,
nor
Since she didn't take no for an answer, you might want to first
contact your local Attorney General's office, and see what could be
done. I suspect that both your police dept. and internet provider
would be interested in this too--since brother probably has done
this for others.
If it's
On 1/13/06, Amber R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I told her that I had no interest in this arrangement at all as it is
obviously illegal and I am also concerned about the security of my
files.She has shown up a couple of times at my door since then
saying that her brother is a network
On Jan 13, 2006, at 10:09 AM, Larry Sica wrote:
PS. It did sort of strike me as odd that even though her brother is
a Network administrator/analyst, he has not been able to get past the
WEP password. Aren't these supposed to be relatively easy to crack
if you know what you're doing ?
At 12:09 PM -0500 01/13/2006, Larry Sica wrote:
Sharing the connection is not illegal. It will violate the terms of
service most likely though if you knowingly let them share it. There
is nothing that could get you arrested though.
Sharing an internet connection against your ISP's AUP/TOS
On Jan 13, 2006, at 10:09 AM, Larry Sica wrote:
PS. It did sort of strike me as odd that even though her brother is
a Network administrator/analyst, he has not been able to get past the
WEP password. Aren't these supposed to be relatively easy to crack
if you know what you're doing ?
WEP is
On Jan 13, 2006, at 11:09 AM, Amber R. wrote:
I told her that I had no interest in this arrangement at all as it
is obviously illegal and I am also concerned about the security of
my files.She has shown up a couple of times at my door since
then saying that her brother is a network
On Jan 13, 2006, at 2:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 12:09 PM -0500 01/13/2006, Larry Sica wrote:
Sharing the connection is not illegal. It will violate the terms of
service most likely though if you knowingly let them share it. There
is nothing that could get you arrested though.
At 8:34 PM -0600 01/13/2006, Gerald Buc wrote:
On Jan 13, 2006, at 2:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 12:09 PM -0500 01/13/2006, Larry Sica wrote:
Sharing the connection is not illegal. It will violate the terms of
service most likely though if you knowingly let them share it. There
is
Drive around the neighborhood, park your car, open your laptop with
broadband wireless adapter and presto you are connected online.
Chances are you will have more than one signal within that area. You
are not stealing a signal because you are not intruding to someone
else's property.
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