[Audyssey] first audio game.

2014-10-19 Thread ishan dhami
Hi who was the first developer of audio games? and which one he made? in which operating system it runs or it is still available? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your

Re: [Audyssey] accessible ludo

2014-10-19 Thread ishan dhami
thanks Ishan On 10/18/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Ludo Bama? LOL. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 7:52 AM To: Gamers Discussion list

Re: [Audyssey] first audio game.

2014-10-19 Thread Thomas Ward
Hello Ishan, Good question. To be honest I am not quite certain who gets the credit of writing the first audio game per se, but there are a few contenders for that distinction. What I'll say is accessible PC games go back before the development of audio games and it is important to start there.

Re: [Audyssey] moderated status? - Re: An Inquiry about MOTA

2014-10-19 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Lisa, Something like that. I had him on moderated status, took him of temporarily to see how he would behave, and when he almost kicked off a flame war he went right back on moderated status where I intend to keep him until I decide weather or not I want to take more drastic measures. So far

Re: [Audyssey] first audio game.

2014-10-19 Thread Jacob Kruger
Thomas, what dos screenreaders were there? Asking, partly, since have a VMWare image here including dos 6.2, or thereabouts, and windows 3.1 in it, but anyway..? Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA ...Roger Wilco wants to welcome you, to the space janitor's closet... -

Re: [Audyssey] first audio game.

2014-10-19 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Jacob, there were actually several high quality Dos screen readers available in the early to mid 90's. There was Jaws for Dos, Vocal-Eyes, and ASAP which were the main three widely in use. However, if you want to use any of them you will have to also have a hardware synthesizer like a Dec Talk

[Audyssey] tips wanted- kingdom of loathing quest

2014-10-19 Thread emily
hi all, i understand that their's a few players of loathing here (because of replies to my other thread) i am wondering if anyone can give me any tips to the kill the kob's knob king quest i know you just can't get in the guard room straight away, because i was kicked out twice does

Re: [Audyssey] tips wanted- kingdom of loathing quest

2014-10-19 Thread Steven Strait
Emily, That all depends on if you want spoilers or not. If you want a direct guide to follow I can give you the steps you need to do. Otherwise, I can give you hints and clues. Which would you prefer? On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 4:53 AM, emily fallenange...@mail.com wrote: hi all, i understand

Re: [Audyssey] first audio game.

2014-10-19 Thread ishan dhami
Hi champion! is there any sited developer who developed audio games? Thanks On 10/19/14, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Ishan, Good question. To be honest I am not quite certain who gets the credit of writing the first audio game per se, but there are a few contenders for

[Audyssey] PCS Games history, was first audio game.

2014-10-19 Thread Phil Vlasak
PCS Games history For those new to the field of games for the blind, here is a short history of our company. In September 1995, Carl Mickla started Personal Computer Systems with his game, Any Night Football. It was a DOS only game that used your DOS screen reader to describe game play and the

Re: [Audyssey] first audio game.

2014-10-19 Thread Thomas Ward
Hello Ishan, Yes, there have been a few sighted developers who have produced a few audio games. Off the top of my head there was Richard Disteno, I believe that was his name, who wrote a few games back in the day like Run for President, Mission to Mars, and Atlantic City Blackjack. There is

Re: [Audyssey] first audio game.

2014-10-19 Thread Lisa Hayes
and james north, i think he was sighted and what's that cow place you know the mob who wrote chillingham. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday,

Re: [Audyssey] first audio game.

2014-10-19 Thread Jacob Kruger
OK, that's pretty much what thought - that software alone wouldn't do it...smile Pretty much unrelated, but, the reason have this VMWare image here is that it apparently has window-eyes installed under windows 3.1, but, haven't been able to get that to launch after starting up windows using

Re: [Audyssey] first audio game.

2014-10-19 Thread Lisa Hayes
and i know ann moris enterprises sold a game called, fox and hounds, never did get in to that game. When i first came to this community in 2000 their was jIm Kitchen of course and sod which to me was and is a marvel and more. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original

[Audyssey] Sighted game developers, was first audio game.

2014-10-19 Thread Phil Vlasak
Hi Thomas, Richard Disteno is blind, and I first heard about him in the World Series Baseball game for DOS by Harry Hollingsworth, who was also blind. Richard Disteno was a Judge in New Jersey and posted to Harry's WSBB news, a print publication. WSBB News started in April 1991 Volume 1 Number

Re: [Audyssey] tips wanted- kingdom of loathing quest

2014-10-19 Thread emily
i'd rather you told me step by step, please. the only thing i've got to work with at the moment is that it's obviously to do with the knob. i must need something in their, but what i don't know. thanks. On 19/10/2014 11:06, Steven Strait wrote: Emily, That all depends on if you want

Re: [Audyssey] tips wanted- kingdom of loathing quest

2014-10-19 Thread Steven Strait
I'm going to assume you've already found the map and have access to the actual Knob it'self. The easiest way is through the Harem. Adventure there until you obtain the Harem Veil, Harem Pants, and Perfume. Once you have these, equip them and use the perfume. You can now enter the Throne room.

Re: [Audyssey] first audio game.

2014-10-19 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Lisa, Yeah, James North was definitely sighted. Forgot about him when trying to recall my list of sighted audio game developers. As for that cow place I believe you are talking about Bavisoft. They are the ones who created Grizzly Gulch and Chillingham. On 10/19/14, Lisa Hayes

Re: [Audyssey] tips wanted- kingdom of loathing quest

2014-10-19 Thread emily
hi, ah yes, this helps. thanks! i think that i'm going to go the first way (since i've no idea yet how to bake a cake!. lol!) On 19/10/2014 12:44, Steven Strait wrote: I'm going to assume you've already found the map and have access to the actual Knob it'self. The easiest way is through the

Re: [Audyssey] first audio game.

2014-10-19 Thread Lisa Hayes
That's it thanks i notice thir aint no bavisoft.com anymore so they've gone like thunder now. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014

Re: [Audyssey] first audio game.

2014-10-19 Thread dark
Hi Tom. I seem to remember hearing an interview with Jim Kitchin at one point which that the first actual audio game which used sound rather than just writing text to the screen was on the eureaca or one of those other specialist braille machines. I think it was a shoot aliens type of game,

Re: [Audyssey] tips wanted- kingdom of loathing quest

2014-10-19 Thread dark
Hi Emily. I must confess the puzzles in KoL were part of what put me off sinse they were often a little random in the same way interactive fiction puzzles were random, though I never found the kobs knob king too bad. As a hint, try some other locations in kobs knob and look at the things the

Re: [Audyssey] first audio game.

2014-10-19 Thread dark
Hi Ishen. firstly, Thomas' ward's name is not champion, neither is champion a term of respect in English. As to your question, yes, several sighted developers have worked on audio games, most noteably JAson Alan who created Entombed, Steve Crawford from Azabat, JEremy Kaldobski, better

Re: [Audyssey] first audio game.

2014-10-19 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Interesting. As I said I'm not quite sure what the first audio game was for certain, but some of the earliest ones I know of were for the BNS Classic and BNS 640K. There was Mine Sweeper, Simon, Solitaire, and a few others released by Blazie Engineering for the device. A little later on

[Audyssey] 1980's Apple 2e games, was first audio game.

2014-10-19 Thread Phil Vlasak
Hi Thomas, My first talking computer was an Apple 2e with an echo hardware synthesizer that I got in 1985. Back then there was no copy protection as you had to copy the screen reader program to the 5.25 floppy disk and run both. There was no hard disks so everything had to be loaded from

Re: [Audyssey] first audio game.

2014-10-19 Thread Charles Rivard
The first game I encountered was not one made for the blind. Adventures in C. The first audio game I encountered was Phil's bowling game for DOS. It was the first one that I bought, anyway. Then I found Rich Destino's DOS games of a 5.25-inch floppy disk that actually was floppy. Remember

Re: [Audyssey] first audio game.

2014-10-19 Thread dark
Hi Tom. well to be accurate I knew games were! available for Pc sinse I used to watch the show Games master, which was the first Uk program about computer games (and very good fun), which showed me reviews of things like doom, quake, 7th guest etc, heck in the early 90's we had a comador

[Audyssey] Sighted game developers, was first audio game.

2014-10-19 Thread Eleanor
In addition to those mentioned, the folks at 7-128 Software are sighted. We try to create games that are for both blind and sighted gamers. We use SAPI voices for dialogue, descriptive material for the scenes and sounds for, as one of our blind game testers said, ear candy that helps create

Re: [Audyssey] first audio game.

2014-10-19 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Charles, Yeah, I remember the 5.25 floppy discs real well. What I remember most is they were big, actually floppy, and could only hold something like 720K at most. Sounds laughable now that technology has progressed to the point where they have 64 GB flash cards that is only a couple of inches

Re: [Audyssey] first audio game.

2014-10-19 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Interesting. Yeah, you were a bit late in joining the community, but in a way that might have been a good thing as you would probably have been disappointed as I was with what was available in the late 90's. I know when I joined Audyssey there were mostly text games, a few early audio

Re: [Audyssey] 1980's Apple 2e games, was first audio game.

2014-10-19 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Phil, Yeah, that brings back some memories. When I was going to junior high our class room had an Apple 2E with an echo, and to say the least the voice was beyond horrid. However, we did have some of those games on a floppy disc like Oregon Trail and I can remember spending many hours in study

Re: [Audyssey] Sighted game developers, was first audio game.

2014-10-19 Thread dark
Woopse Eleanor, I really should've remembered you as well, though in fairness I wasn't trying to make a deffinitive list, just a few that popped off the top of my head. Dark.Zagreus sits inside your head, Zagreus lives among the dead, Zagreus sees you in your bed, And eats you when you're

Re: [Audyssey] first audio game.

2014-10-19 Thread dark
Hi Tom. It was indeed lucky in a way. As you know, my vision, while extremely limited has remained stable sinse I was about 8, thus I was not facing a situation of deterioration and can still play graphical games if the graphics and menu access allow, and I still regularly play games on my

[Audyssey] Historical access preservation project

2014-10-19 Thread Jacob Kruger
Along lines of discussion about first accessible games, etc., did a quick search, and came across site with above title, and they seem to be offering download links for things like a VMWare version of DOS, along with links to download what seem to be instances of original dos-based

Re: [Audyssey] first audio game.

2014-10-19 Thread john
Just a guess, but weren't GMA at least one of the first real audio game devs? I'm not entirely sure on this front, and I guess it would really depend on what you want to define audio games as; text adventures have been out since the 80s. -- From:

Re: [Audyssey] first audio game.

2014-10-19 Thread Lisa Hayes
And their was conrad button who produced educational games like nebula, darkcon castawy and so on. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 20,

Re: [Audyssey] first audio game.

2014-10-19 Thread Josh Kennedy
and does that vm work? does dos talk inside it? On 10/19/2014 4:52 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote: Thomas, what dos screenreaders were there? Asking, partly, since have a VMWare image here including dos 6.2, or thereabouts, and windows 3.1 in it, but anyway..? Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker

Re: [Audyssey] first audio game.

2014-10-19 Thread Josh Kennedy
don't forget tiny talk screen reader which could use sb-talker, a software synthesizer for dos but it only worked with sound blaster cards. On 10/19/2014 5:46 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Jacob, there were actually several high quality Dos screen readers available in the early to mid 90's. There

Re: [Audyssey] first audio game.

2014-10-19 Thread Danielle Antoine
Wow. Panzers in North Africa and Fox and Hounds. That's taking me way back indeed. On 10/19/14, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: don't forget tiny talk screen reader which could use sb-talker, a software synthesizer for dos but it only worked with sound blaster cards. On 10/19/2014

Re: [Audyssey] first audio game.

2014-10-19 Thread Josh Kennedy
and now we have tacticle battle, swamp and others. and tacticle battle has star wars and other map packs of games inside of it. On 10/19/2014 11:20 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Dark, Interesting. Yeah, you were a bit late in joining the community, but in a way that might have been a good thing

Re: [Audyssey] 1980's Apple 2e games, was first audio game.

2014-10-19 Thread Josh Kennedy
don't forget you can still play those old apple 2e games with the mess emulator. On 10/19/2014 11:33 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Phil, Yeah, that brings back some memories. When I was going to junior high our class room had an Apple 2E with an echo, and to say the least the voice was beyond