Re: BATCH: Unable to send...

2004-06-09 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> On Wed, 9 Jun 2004, Adam R. B. Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > We seeem to be getting sparodic timeouts to mail.apache.org > > Sure it is a timeout? > > The ant-contrib nags do not come from an apache.org sender so I > suspected a no-relay rule kicking i

Re: Jira and Gump (Re: Fw: brutus)

2004-06-09 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> > I couldn't agree more. JIRA has to help us smooth out the inflow. > > > > Can you elaborate on this? I'm rewriting JIRA's email templates at the > moment, so am interested in that general area.. I don't think I was meaning anything more perceptive than JIRA is a good TODOs list, but I have f

Re: [VOTE] retire java gump

2004-06-09 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> -0 (if that's allowed) > > But -1 if the proposal is to stop non-Python Gumps at present. I don't think anybody is intending the stop them, and I proposed a way to let them continue to function (as we move Python out, into SVN, etc.) > > I'd suggest tagging CVS and making it clear that java gum

Re: BATCH: Unable to send...

2004-06-09 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> Is it possible to include the email headers (at least to, from, date & > subject) in the "Unable to send" digest mails? This would make > debugging of failures somewhat easier. The code base I have here pretty much does that, plus reason for failure. Unfortunately I went on this DOM chase w/ t

Fw: [GUMP@brutus]: jakarta-commons-codec-11/commons-codec-11 failed

2004-06-09 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
Hmm, this is annoying. > BUILD FAILED > /usr/local/gump/public/workspace/jakarta-commons-codec-11/build.xml:110: Warning: Could not find file /usr/local/gump/public/workspace/LICENSE to copy. There is a hard coded usage of ../LICENSE, so when I put this out of the jakarta-commons module into it's

Re: BATCH: Unable to send...

2004-06-10 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
Niclas, There are two such abtches/digests: 'All dressed up, with nowhere to go' (no On Thursday 10 June 2004 07:22, Michael Davey wrote: > > Is it possible to include the email headers (at least to, from, date & > > subject) in the "Unable to send" digest mails? This would make > > debugging of

Re: Fw: [GUMP@brutus]: jakarta-commons-codec-11/commons-codec-11 failed

2004-06-10 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> Make jakarta-commons-codec-11 depend upon commons-build. Get the > license file from commons-build. Send a patch to the codec crew. Nag > them 'til they commit. > > Probably not what you wanted to hear. Just to clarify. The commons-codec HEAD build works fine within jakarta-commons. This is a

Re: Fw: [GUMP@brutus]: jakarta-commons-codec-11/commons-codec-11 failed

2004-06-10 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> >This is an historic (tagged) version I am trying to > >construct, 'cos WS-XMLRPC can't built against head, and won't move up. > > > If it is tagged and never going to change, you could simply create a > packaged project. Ah, of course. Staring me in the face. Thank you. :) > I wonder, is there

Re: Fw: [GUMP@brutus]: jakarta-commons-codec-11/commons-codec-11 failed

2004-06-10 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> >Just to clarify. The commons-codec HEAD build works fine within > >jakarta-commons. This is an historic (tagged) version I am trying to > >construct, 'cos WS-XMLRPC can't built against head, and won't move up. > > > Ah, okay. Why won't they move up? They just don't want to move up, they are li

Ought we consider a Gump on Brutus running JDK1.5?

2004-06-10 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
As more and more people go there, it'll get more and more painful for us not to be. Berin's post made me think of this: http://jroller.com/page/bloritsch/20040610#re_eintering_the_cocoon regards, Adam -- Experience the Unwired Enterprise: http://www.sybase.com/unwiredenterprise Try Sybase: http

Re: Ought we consider a Gump on Brutus running JDK1.5?

2004-06-11 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
From: "Brett Porter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > My 2c: I would have it ready to go when 1.5 goes into first release (so get > it ready now), but not nag anyone until then. While there might be helpful > stuff, you'd want to avoid nagging people for bugs in the betas too - and it > might be hard to dif

Re: cvs commit: gump/project jakarta-commons-codec-11.xml

2004-06-11 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
Stefan, Does your packages script treat LSD as the 'master'? If so, could that change to Brutus? If not, and this causes you grief, please let me know. regards Adam - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 8:38 AM Subject: cvs co

Re: Need help with : pydoc & pychecker

2004-06-11 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> >Ought we just expect developers to do > >the above? > > > Nope. That would be like expecting developers to run "ant javadoc" for > themselves rather than pointing them to a website hosting the javadoc. > It is just a good form of communication - provide documentation up front > for all to see.

Deprecation

2004-06-14 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
I'd like to discuss deprecation. The only Gump API we have today is the metadata. I'd like to formalize that [perhaps even with version attributes on major (distributed/community edited) elements], have XSD schema for validation. I'd also like to be able to migrate/enhance it it. (I've stored up n

Re: Deprecation

2004-06-16 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> > Unfortunately this'll freeze the metadata, so doesn't seem too > > workable. > > Only tag the python directory? Assuming I added this logic to templates (and other non-metadata areas), to get all of Gumpy, I guess I could then teach gumpy.py to get from a TAG, and then overlay metadata from CV

Re: Maven 'gump' Re: [vfs][all]maven generated build file and conditional compilation

2004-06-16 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
Brett wrote: > Have you had a chance to look at the changes I made to do this? Sorry Brett, either Jira failed to notify, or I missed it. I'll try to get to it soon. I assume I checkout Maven from CVS and build (or something, right?) Or, is there a way to download/preview plug-ins? Sorry for bein

Re: cvs commit: gump/python/gump/document/xdocs documenter.py

2004-06-16 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
Hmm, I meant this to go into the Clean-Up branch not HEAD. [I thought I was doing a healthy merge into my branch, keeping up to date with HEAD, but instead I seemed to blur the two. Eclipse handles CVS so well I fall asleep at the wheel...] I'll attempt to revert it to 1.9, then get back to workin

Gump work-in-progress (CleanUp branch)

2004-06-17 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
I've been struggling with Gump performance issues for months now. That is 'clogs up' (on large workspaces) has continually hampered usage & (frankly) my progress . I've turned over every rock that comes to my mind, but I keep failing. I've been getting pretty frustrated with Python (I find it some

Gump & Depot

2004-06-17 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
I want to allow Gump to use Depot to download jars from a repository (when legal) so we don't have to manually install/distribute packages (or, keep it to a minimum). My goal is to take this to 'personal cascaded Gumps', i.e. where a user builds less and less & just automatically downloads the late

[Forrest Gump] Re: Gump work-in-progress (CleanUp branch)

2004-06-17 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> Adam R. B. Jack wrote: > > At the same time the Forrest folk divided to do some major (copyless) work, > > and they removed the ability to pass work/site location parameters to the > > batch file. Gump used these. > > They will be back somehow, don't worry

Re: adding jakarta commons-compress to gump

2004-06-17 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
Could you take a look at the http://gump.apache.org/metadata/maven.html [BTW: This is new, the maven gump goal is being changed. Feedback welcomed.] and an example, look at commons-id in here: http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/gump/project/jakarta-commons-sandbox.xml?rev=1.161&view=markup If n

Re: Gump having problems?

2004-06-18 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> I also noticed; > 1. There is no proper link to where the details are. > 2. Bottom of the email; >Apache Gump >http://gump.apache.org/ [Instance: gump.try.sybase.com] > > Is it some outdated gump machine that is starting up again, or even some > external party (sybase.com)?? Ahh, I wonde

Re: Infrastructural stuff

2004-06-18 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> I seem to remember there were some bending issues, but can't seem to > find them. Could people please log 'em into jira? I think they'll likely get added under here: http://nagoya.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&mode=hide&pid=10457&sorter/order=DESC&sorter/field=priority&r

Re: [jira] Closed: (GUMP-64) ByLaws

2004-06-18 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> http://gump.apache.org/bylaws.html exists ever since the bylaws became final. Reach it via the last link in the navigation. Starting me in the face, sorry & thanks. I wanted to review it to see where we stood on the 'retirement' vote. regards, Adam --

[VOTE RESULTS] Retire Java Gump

2004-06-18 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
It has been 10 days since the vote to retire Traditional Gump was put out. As I read this [VOTE] mails on this list I see seven +1s (Leo, Adam, Davanum, Martin, Nicola, Stefan, Stefano), one +0 (Michael), one -0 (the suggestion of a -1 if traditional Gumps were stopped, Sebastian). My problem is

Re: [VOTE] retire java gump

2004-06-18 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
Sebastian, Any follow-up? I'd like to find a way to ensure/clarify that you aren't a -1. regards Adam - Original Message - From: "Adam R. B. Jack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gump code and data" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 20

Re: Stray nags (was:Re: [VOTE RESULTS] Retire Java Gump)

2004-06-18 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> Is nagging on by default ? > If it is a config entry, it's probably best to have the nag only as a commandline parameter, to prevent "spam" in the future ? Nagging is both a command line parameter (--notify) and has to be requested/enabled in the workspace (with

Re: Apache SOAP (ws-soap)

2004-06-18 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
I think this was a stray error from a test (broken) Gump, sorry. Please ignore, unless it continues. regards Adam - Original Message - From: "Scott Nichol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 11:21 AM Subject: Apache SOAP (ws-soap) > Apache SOAP star

Re: [VOTE RESULTS] Retire Java Gump

2004-06-18 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> How about a compromise? Here is my proposal: > > Fork the metadata tree (perhaps putting the new one in SVN) and make it very clear that the gumpmeisters have no intention of maintaining the traditional metadata themselves (but anyone with commit priviledges may modify the traditional metadata i

Re: Stray nags (was:Re: [VOTE RESULTS] Retire Java Gump)

2004-06-18 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
m spamming when I set up gump on my "new" box > (running fc 2).. > > Mvgr, > Martin > > On Fri, 2004-06-18 at 17:30, Adam R. B. Jack wrote: > > > Is nagging on by default ? > > > If it is a config entry, it's probably best to have the nag only as a >

Re: adding jakarta commons-compress to gump

2004-06-19 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> Could you please have a look if this looks good? Sure. > As a commons comitter i > should be able to commit this change to gump, right? All ASF commiters can. > But i dont wont to break the whole sandbox module due to an incorrect > addition - is there a change to check this before such a cha

Re: Stray nags (was:Re: [VOTE RESULTS] Retire Java Gump)

2004-06-20 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> Sorry for not understanding how nagging works, and perhaps the intent already > exists, but shouldn't a Gump instance have a "Concern Area", i.e. "Nag > projects that have 'these' domains in the nag-address" ? And by default only > use the domain-name on the host it is running. Nagging works for

Re: legalities of jar publishing (was: Re: [VOTE] retire java gump)

2004-06-21 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> And what is the use of publishing jars that are built against the latest > jars ? My usage for them is for personal and/or cascaded Gumps. If the root Gumps build the public projects then I ought be able to NOT build them for my work Gumps. I'd like to keep current (no point Gumping, unless) so

Re: [VOTE RESULTS] Retire Java Gump

2004-06-21 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> Tag CVS, move the python stuff however you like, leave the java stuff in > and just ignore it. And we no longer need try to maintain compatibility > with java gump in the metadata definitions. > > I suggest we clean up further when we move to SVN. Ought we do these at the same time, just to g

Re: legalities of jar publishing

2004-06-21 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> > Ant used Gump to create nightly builds until Sam's machine broke > down. So did Cactus and JMeter. > BTW: We have a task in JIRA that will configure the HTTPD to allow access to the Jars. They are produced, just not accessible. regards, Adam ---

Re: legalities of jar publishing

2004-06-21 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> One of the questions that haven't really been answered/resolved by the > board (IIRC) is whether automated snapshots are considered releases. This is really a big deal (for me & probably others). > If so, you can forget the whole business of nightly builds being > distributed from ASF hardware

Re: commons-compress - Gump/Maven issues?

2004-06-21 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> > For things like directories for compiled classes this probably > > is good, but it may also lead to situations where Gump doesn't manage > > to substitute a jar from CVS with a freshly compiled one. > > Generally, Maven will happily download the required Jars from remote > repositories, which

Re: brutus gump (8080->80)

2004-06-21 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> Can we please make gump output available at > http://brutus.apache.org/gump/ws-axis/ws-axis-test/index.html > > instead of > http://brutus.apache.org:8080/gump/ws-axis/ws-axis-test/index.html I can but file the request, but the request is there: http://nagoya.apache.org/jira/browse/GUMP-

Re: commons-compress - Gump/Maven issues?

2004-06-21 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> The question is, does Maven fully support disabling the normal 'repository > management' allowing Gump to provide the artifacts for each project? Theoretically yes, but I think Stefan has disproved that it isn't leak-proof. > Can Maven be told to ignore versions in the POMs ? Yes. > I have s

Re: commons-compress - Gump/Maven issues?

2004-06-21 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> My conclusion is that the maven scenario is very similar to the magic > scenario. To do real integration you need to be able do to something > like set some special property so that magic or maven can take control > over classloader definition in the knowledge that the build is a gump > build (i

Re: BATCH: Unable to send...

2004-06-21 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> A DOM4J fix would benefit 86 other projects, so thanks in advance... > > http://brutus.apache.org:8080/gump/project_todos.html > http://brutus.apache.org:8080/gump/dom4j/dom4j/index.html#Project-level+Files Hmm, this show 'class not found'. I wonder if this is as simple as the test classes

Re: dom4j tests fail (was: BATCH: Unable to send...)

2004-06-22 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> But, I don't know how to tell gump how to do this. http://gump.apache.org/metadata/project.html#work > What I don't understand is that these paths are added to the classpath > in the test target of the Ant build.xml file, but gump doesn't seem to > use them. Is this correct? I'm new to gump

Re: Infrastructural stuff

2004-06-22 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
) to be able to view the results of the run, so we can see if that branch is adequate for a merge into HEAD. Pretty please.. regards Adam - Original Message ----- From: "Adam R. B. Jack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gump code and data" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Infrastructural stuff

2004-06-22 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> not for me. I just have a ton of TODO items, no time, bad health. Gump > stuff is on the list. Hope to get some of this done this week. On, now that I know that please remove the Gump stuff from your list, and focus on health and time for you. I can live w/o this stuff (and work on Depot fo

Re: Infrastructural stuff

2004-06-22 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
sed immediately from both > cvs.apache.org and brutus.apache.org. Works fine from my Windows > desktop at home, though. > > Scott > > On Jun 22, 2004, at 2:05 PM, Adam R. B. Jack wrote: > > >> not for me. I just have a ton of TODO items, no time, bad health. Gump > >>

DOM4J on Gump

2004-06-22 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
0030225/xsdlib.jar > dom4j: msv-20030807.jar;xsdlib-20030807.jar > > it seems that the gump jars are older versions, perhaps they could be > upgraded? > > Maarten > > Stefan Bodewig wrote: > > >On Mon, 21 Jun 2004, Adam R. B. Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > &g

Re: [brutus] dead processes

2004-06-23 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> # I'm tempted to put up a crontab that kills these processes. WDYT? We've not found a good way to kill them from Python, so why not. Could we get a mail (or report file somewhere) of what was killed? regards Adam - To unsubs

Re: Gump work-in-progress (CleanUp branch)

2004-06-23 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> I've been struggling with Gump performance issues for months now. That is > 'clogs up' (on large workspaces) has continually hampered usage & (frankly) > my progress . One thing that I did find when I was doing performance analysis/tuning of the DOM-like (create a tree of objects then serialize

Re: [brutus] dead processes

2004-06-23 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
BTW: One of the 'admin to-do's is to see (not sure how) if Brutus is happy or dogging. While you are in there, mind keeping an eye out? I think the 'slowness' is Python Gump leaking (and some stray CPU intensive paths that Python let's one code so fast/easily ;-) but it'd be nice to know from an OS

Re: Infrastructural stuff

2004-06-24 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
Any other takers on this one? I'd like to compare/contrast the new branch build to the live build, to see how far I am from done & ready to merge. Having it public would be helpful 'cos I could get more eyes on it. regards Adam - Original Message - From: "Adam

Re: [jira] Closed: (GUMP-69) Install JDK1.5 and configure HTTPD for a JDK15 gump 'flavour'

2004-06-25 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
Leo Many thanks for doing this. Are you sure it points to .../gump/jdk15/results? I was kinda expecting XHTML not Forrest (like /gump/public.) I think this is pointing to public: http://brutus.apache.org/gump/jdk15/workspace.html regards Adam - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PRO

Re: Infrastructural stuff

2004-06-25 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> hey adam, you can do lots of things as a local user, like publish things > in ~/public_html. No need to wait for other people for testing stuff. > Anyways, working on it... Thanks for the suggestion, and for all the help. I'll keep that option in mind (I think I just tunnel visioned on what the

Re: [jira] Closed: (GUMP-69) Install JDK1.5 and configure HTTPD for a JDK15 gump 'flavour'

2004-06-25 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> Like I wrote in the comment to the tomcat issue, I dupped the forrest > webapp and changed the jdk15 config to write its results there. Until > the rerun of the jdk15 config you'll see the results from the public run > (they were copied after all), after that things should change to what > they s

Re: Wing IDE

2004-06-29 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> I also agree to email release notices via email to opensource-releases > at wingware.com, for any and all open source projects that use the > software licenses purchased on this order. > > Afaik gump never had a release (not even the java one).. :) Then we are off the hook, right? ;-) Seriously

Fw: apache gump 2.0

2004-06-29 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
James This is more appropriate here (than the PMC mailing list). Gump 2.0 is what I think we've referred to the Python version as, see: http://gump.apache.org/index.html http://gump.apache.org/python/index.html http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs/gump/ regards Adam - Original Mes

Multithreading the updates

2004-06-30 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
I took a break from the studying I ought be doing, in order to tinker with multi-threading. Heck, I've suffered all this pain w/ Python (my own doing, no doubt) so I might as well get some fun out of it. I like the results. Since cvs|svn|whatever are typically network latency/IO bound, there is qu

State of Gumpdom (CleanUp branch stuff)

2004-06-30 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
This CleanUp branch has taken on a life of it's own. The change to DOM has been 'cleaner' -- I trust/know everything that goes on -- but it hasn't been easy. [It is amazing how many hours of coding/debugging I've had to put in to get some weak approximation of what Sam achieved in w/ some Pythonic

Addendum : Re: State of Gumpdom (CleanUp branch stuff)

2004-06-30 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
Additionally, a few weeks ago we started seeing a bunch of e-mail failures. I was hoping to wait for the CleanUp branch (to merge, to start nagging) 'cos it would report the error messages to the gump list, unfortunately that hassn't occured. To weed out problems I need to go into the error log an

Re: need docs...

2004-06-30 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
Leo wrote: > I've been reading gump code. Awesome. > Three comments so far: > > * boy is there a lot! Yeah, but then you've seen my mails right? I have various forms of dihorrea. ;-) I know I write "fluffy" code, I just can't seem to achieve that excellence that allows tight & terse. I'm wor

Re: need docs...

2004-06-30 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> Next week I'm going to see if its possible to set up a debug-enabled > gump on brutus and see if I can get the wing ide up and connected to it. > When it works I'll let you guys know ;) BTW: It is the full Gumps (600 projects) that tend to 'clog up', I've found the smaller ones (e.g. minimal-wor

JDK 1.5

2004-07-02 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
The CleanUp branch is getting pretty darn close to matching the CVS HEAD Gump again (the odd 'didn't expand @@DATE@@ somewhere obscure' kinda bug might exist, but not in the first projects, or so this seems to show: http://gump.try.sybase.com/buildLog.html). However, we get this w/ CleanUp runnin

Re: JDK 1.5

2004-07-02 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
amp;forum=316&message=2500873 > What I understand, is that the problem means that we are trying to run > under JDK 1.4 some code compiled under JDK 1.5. > These options of javac : -source 1.5 -target jsr14 according to the > article, allow to compile under jdk1.5 and to run unde

Re: Multithreading the updates

2004-07-02 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> this is a good idea, my experience with gump is also that the updates > are taking ages. Yeah, once I started down this path it became glaringly obvious this was a good win. Most of the updates take time to figure out that little or nothing needs updating, and those are great things to have spaw

Re: JDK 1.5

2004-07-02 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> On Fri, 2 Jul 2004, Adam R. B. Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > http://brutus.apache.org/gump/jdk15/xml-crimson/xml-crimson/gump_work/build_xml-crimson_xml-crimson.html#Output > > I get an internal server error when I try to access this. Yes, I foolishly tried to

Re: Multithreading the updates

2004-07-02 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> could it be that cvs-level locking provides a nice filesystem-based sync? The various threads all do CVS or SVN into completely separate (peer) directories, so there really ought be no overlap at that point. The 'worklist' (where to get chores from) is synchronized [using Java term] with a lock

Re: JDK 1.5

2004-07-02 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> > > > http://brutus.apache.org/gump/jdk15/xml-crimson/xml-crimson/gump_work/build_xml-crimson_xml-crimson.html#Output > > > > I get an internal server error when I try to access this. > > Yes, I foolishly tried to remove an xdocs related bug before I went away for > the long weekend, and trashed

Re: JDK 1.5

2004-07-02 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> boostrap-ant will probably pick up tools.jar from the CLASSPATH, but > this shouldn't be necessary as the script can find it on its own if > JAVA_HOME is set correctly. For some reason I didn't beleive that to be the case (back when I added the usage of the system CLASSPATH w/ tools in it.) I'v

Re: JDK 1.5

2004-07-02 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> > I have no idea how you launch java from Python. This one obviously > > does not use the 1.5 JDK. > > It simple makes a system call to 'java', so it gets what is first on the > path. Ah yes, the PATH is visible here: http://brutus.apache.org/gump/public/gump_work/check_env.html and ht

Re: running against the default target

2004-07-03 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> Is it possible to tell gump to execute a project *without* supplying an > explicit target. According to the docs if no target is defined in the > statement, the default target reverts to "gump". What I > would like is gump to execute ant without setting any target. > > Is this possible? I oug

Re: problem with brutus?

2004-07-06 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
Something seems sick to me. I get 'document contains no data'. I get this fine: http://brutus.apache.org/gump/ So it seems (to me) that the tomcat needs restarting. regards, Adam - Original Message - From: "Stephen McConnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday

Re: brutus on 8080

2004-07-06 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> Just a note to let you know that I have not been able to connect with > brutus for the last couple of days. Plain old http://brutus.apache.org > appears to be working but the gump url does not. > > http://brutus.apache.org:8080/gump/modules.html Steve, it finally dawned on me that I could use t

Re: Multithreading the updates

2004-07-06 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> The code doesn't appear to be breaking (despite Python not locking in base > classes like lists, and the Gump code not locking all that it might). I > tried doing a Google search for locking in Python, and really found little > "street wise" information. I found some updates from a Mr Stein (a ge

merging CleanUp branch back into CVS HEAD

2004-07-07 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
for a few days, just to verify nothing truly offensive occurs immediately. Thoughts? regards, Adam - Original Message - From: "Adam R. B. Jack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 10:50 AM Subject: Gump work-in-progress (Cl

JGroup == JavaGroups Re: cvs commit: gump/project javagroups.xml jgroups.xml

2004-07-07 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
It seems we have two of these things. Any insights? Any thoughts on action? regards Adam - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 11:16 AM Subject: cvs commit: gump/project javagroups.xml jgroups.xml > ajack 2004/07/07

Re: locating the james build failure

2004-07-07 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> Just before the error - ant is reporting that it is dropping a bunch of > phoenix references because the gump outputs are not found - and > logically as a consequence we hit the error concerning the class not found. Good point. Looks like two absolute paths are being concatenated there. > Phoen

Re: [brutus] webapp - why?

2004-07-08 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> could someone explain to me exactly *why* we're running forrest as a > webapp? It's a relatively big resource hog... Recall when we ran forrest as a batch command? It would generate thousands of pages (costing lots of resources) even if those pages were never viewed. Basically, from what you say

Re: resource usage]

2004-07-08 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> VMware would be nice (though I have no experience with GX, I imagine its > better than the consumer stuff ;). We run VMWare here at TrySybase, and have for a couple of years. All our demos and such run in VMs (and we have numerous DBs, web servers, app servers, etc. etc. running on top.) VMWare

Re: missing 4 hours

2004-07-08 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> The last gump run (which has come on-line about 30 mins ago) > > Start Date/Time (UTC) Thu, 08 Jul 2004 07:00:49 (UTC) > End Date/Time (UTC) Thu, 08 Jul 2004 13:26:41 (UTC) > > What is happening between 13:26 and 17:15 (about 4 hours). There appears > to be a really big delay between th

Re: what's all these processes?

2004-07-08 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> still busy doing some gump profiling. I'm seeing this: I really appreciate that -- thank you! > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/root# ps aux | grep gump | grep -v tomcat > gump 23233 0.0 0.0 8568 1692 ?SJun25 0:57 > /usr/bin/python2.3 /usr/bin/pydoc -p 1243 Ok, the Python Documentati

Getting lots of /tmp/*.xls on Brutus

2004-07-08 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
My local (work) Gump that builds a really small subset of the Gump stack (and then my code) started dying w/ lack of disk space. We found that we were getting a full /tmp, and then I saw that Brutus has a similar issue. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ wc /tmp/*.xls -bash: /usr/bin/wc: Argument list too long

Re: [RT] Was python a good idea?

2004-07-08 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> I have started to use python myself because I loved the much faster > try/fail cycle of a scripting language and python looked a lot > friendlier than other scripting languages. Python is fun to get started with & has some really nice features. My guess is I've not even come close to touching t

Re: [RT] Was python a good idea?

2004-07-08 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> Adam, please, let me start saying this is (as indicated) a random > though, not a proposal, nor a criticism. Thanks, but not neccessary, I've had the [RT] myself many times. In the early days of this (as one gent on IM can attest) there were an uncountable number of times I bitched "I could re-

Re: brutus may be having a problem

2004-07-08 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> > http://brutus.apache.org:8080/gump/modules.html > Yup, maybe my merge has some kinks to work out. Still, Leo (or other), could I request a quick reconfigure? 1) Let's remove tomcat. 2) Restore the config such that http://brutus.apache.org/gump/{flavour} goes to /usr/local/gump/{flavour}/resu

Re: cvs commit: gump/project avalon-tools.xml

2004-07-08 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> Log: > (I have to try it) > + Sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if I tried to stop you (when I coded it). We'll see. :) regards Adam - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [

Re: brutus may be having a problem

2004-07-09 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
one delete issue), if not better. If I don't get a response shortly I'll give a go at using XDOCs again. regards, Adam - Original Message ----- From: "Adam R. B. Jack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gump code and data" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursda

Re: Getting lots of /tmp/*.xls on Brutus

2004-07-09 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> In any case, the files > are created in the system temp directory, using the java > File.createTempFile method call. I dont know if that is something that > can be controlled by setting environment variables. Does JDK 1.3+ cover POI users? http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.3/docs/api/java/io/File.htm

Re: cvs commit: gump/python/gump/...

2004-07-09 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
Hmm, this didn't get sent yesterday (sorry) ... I merge CleanUp into CVS HEAD. I've turned off nagging (I hope). I've set them to be XHTML, not XDOCS, and asked for an HTTPD config change. I already see one thing I need to fix (or turn off deletes, like CVS HEAD was): http://gump.try.sybase

Re: brutus may be having a problem

2004-07-09 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
e.org/~gump/public/buildLog.html regards Adam - Original Message - From: "Adam R. B. Jack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gump code and data" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 7:25 AM Subject: Re: brutus may be having a problem > Darn, seems I p

Re: brutus may be having a problem

2004-07-09 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> 3h 23m. > That's an improvement! > :-) Daft, but I've not been paying attention (too painful to look) -- what was it before? Still, it can do far far better. Multi-threading the CVS/SVN ought reduce the latency. The main problem (for no clear reason I can gather) still seems to be generating do

Re: brutus may be having a problem

2004-07-09 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> The cycle time between updates of the web site was around 9 hours - gump > was reporting about 5 hours for the run (so we are already seeing a big > improvement on that aspect). In addition there is that mystery 4 hours > between the end of the run and the appearance off documentation. Not real

Re: gump n' magic update

2004-07-09 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> I have heard some horror stories about getting those Gump building > boxes working, and we are somewhat in over our heads, as I don't think > anyone with Python experience is interested in helping out... Those were the bad old days & are part of what inspired me to tinker w/ Python Gump. ;-) It

Re: brutus may be having a problem

2004-07-10 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> > Hey, I spent so long on having Gump use Forrest 'cos I'm no GUI guy. The > > style sheet is here, feel free to help me fix it: > > > > http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/gump/template/xhtml/css/style.css > > I'm on it! Thanks. Let me know if you need me to change the class attributes on any

Fw: [ANN] Maven Gump Plugin 1.4 Released

2004-07-10 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
Brett, Thanks very much! Sorry I didn't find time to look at the plug-in, I was pre-occupied w/ work & EMT classes. Thanks for helping out with it. regards Adam - Original Message - From: "Brett Porter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Maven Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Maven Developers

Re: heresy - a controversial or unorthodox opinion or doctrine

2004-07-10 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> Well - maybe its not that bad ... but all the same - this is an early > warning .. I'm thinking about making a copy of AntBuilder > (gump/python/gump/builder/ant.py), renaming it to magic.py, making a > couple of small but significant changes, sorting out what actually does > the builder selectio

Re: heresy - a controversial or unorthodox opinion or doctrine

2004-07-10 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> The only (small > but significant) extras I can think off would be: > [...] 4) A unit test suite (like gump/test/maven.py) for whatever you tweaks are. Since we have home grown pyunit, one needs to edit gump/test/pyunit.py to import the suite and add it to the runner. Once done you can run t

Re: cvs commit: gump/python/gump/build builder.py

2004-07-12 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> Log: > Halved the work done after a module update or project build (the events were being dispatched twice!) Let's see how fast Brutus goes now. :) Note: This isn't updating/building twice, it is documenting/notifiying/etc twice. So, the increase will not be extremely dramatic, unless we ha

Re: brutus may be having a problem

2004-07-12 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> Adam R. B. Jack wrote: > > 2) Restore the config such that http://brutus.apache.org/gump/{flavour} goes > > to /usr/local/gump/{flavour}/results. > > done (for public, jdk15 and test, not any "flavour"). Thanks, I've restored the config to write

Dymystifying Gump Code...

2004-07-12 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
It is clear that for Python Gump to flourish, it's code needs to be clear & documented (to make it readable/understandable to Java programmers). It need to be transparent, and accessible. I'll do my best to help with that. Could I get some feedback on this: http://wiki.apache.org/gump/GumpCod

Re: Dymystifying Gump Code...

2004-07-12 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
Along these lines, could I get feedback on these two modules? If folks can grok these, maybe there is hope for Python Gump. The builder: (see method buildProject): http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/gump/python/gump/build/builder.py?rev=1.7&view=markup The AntBuilder (there are also ScriptBuilde

Re: Dymystifying Gump Code...

2004-07-12 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> > It is clear that for Python Gump to flourish, it's code needs to be clear & > > documented (to make it readable/understandable to Java programmers). It need > > to be transparent, and accessible. I'll do my best to help with that. > > Could you also post a link to a Python-to-Java translator??

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