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to svnwc:
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drwxr-sr-x 6 svnwc svnwc 14 Mar 29 02:44 lucy
Ideas?
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are typically made available.
Therefore, in my opinion we can put this controversy in a queue for
legal-discuss@a.o, to be dealt with after the more pressing matter of bundled
jar files. :)
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While Roy's suggestion of referencing licenses spread over multiple files
seems like a perfectly sane alternative, I'd argue against documenting it as
best practice unless HTTPD changes their LICENSE file to match.
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license texts in LICENSE may be verbose, but that is how it
is done right now.
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2012/3/28 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com:
On 3/28/12 12:46 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
It is more or less a pure svn dump.
Right -- just with a few files moved around and a bunch filtered out.
yes, we build the src release package as part of a normal build and I
exclude all svn
. Having wildcards which exclude a
file type for the whole source tree, though, weakens the RAT check, both now
and in the future.
Are you confident that all the files which match those wildcards were part of
the Oracle SGA or are otherwise properly licensed for ASF usage?
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, there is
less incentive to move.
This was a concern of mine as well.
I'd suggest everything but the website.
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such a
proposal.
If the policy of source-only releases is confusing to some of our Java
developers, perhaps we should revisit how we vet incubating releases of Java
projects to emphasize this policy.
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members run a build-and-test check is particularly useful. Not a blocker.
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to hear objections
now.
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On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Marvin Humphrey
mar...@rectangular.com wrote:
I was a little surprised that the LICENSE file contained only the ALv2, and
that NOTICE points
), clearly visible in the main documentation or
README file.
Since shortening doesn't materially change ease of typability or clickability,
I don't see a reason to start down the difficult path of changing that policy
or obtaining a variance.
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to add incubating to the archive file names.
Sounds good. Those have traditionally been blocking concerns.
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[1] Compatible checksum files can be hand-rolled using Perl and the Digest
module: http://s.apache.org/UCV
is not in the archive filename.
Hope this helps as a start at least,
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marvin@smokey:~/Desktop $ gpg --verify aoo-3.4-src.tar.gz.asc
gpg: Signature made Tue Mar 13 00:52:11 2012 PDT using RSA key ID 51B5FDE8
gpg: Good signature from Juergen Schnmidt j...@apache.org
gpg: aka
[ ] +1 Recommend The Apache Creadur Proposal To The Board (below)
[ ] +0
[ ] -0
[ ] -1 Do not graduate Rat podling
+1 (binding)
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into account.
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VOTE was held on the Lucy developer's list in which I participated
as a member of the Lucy PPMC; I continue to stand behind my vote in that
context.
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On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 09:31:47PM -0500, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
I have no issue with standing down after 8 years, and Jukka is an excellent
and active successor.
+1 for Jukka as future chair.
+8 for Noel as past chair.
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to spend your time on,
why would you want to stick around an organization that has so much trouble
getting its act together?
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is *earned*.
We want newcomers to internalize ASF values. We want them to understand both
how much we care about doing things the way we do and why.
We also have oversight responsibilities that it would be best if we
relinquished progressively.
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ambitious
reforms. An indefinite period where release votes continue to drag on for
weeks is unacceptable.
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Hi,
Just clarifying: this release candidate, RC5, has not yet received any votes
from anyone?
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On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 02:51:41PM +0100, Reto Bachmann-Gmür wrote:
Hello,
While the last release candidate found a lot of acceptance (3 binding +1 in
the ppmc) it had
IPMC representation during times of plenty, and that instead of
looking to our beloved usual suspects, we look to standout podling
contributors who have demonstrated a thorough understanding of the Apache Way.
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of incubation -- to our podlings' detriment and our own.
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participate in their struggle... that's what, in my opinion, will prepare them
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do more to prepare for the possible attrition of some.
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had to stretch
the furthest, and thus I may have reaped the greatest rewards. (Peter Karman
has stepped forward to handle more leadership tasks, but he was already an
accomplished manager so the role is familiar; other people are coding more but
they already had that down cold!)
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of ASF
procedures?
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the difficulty in scraping up these votes to be a
significant weakness in how the Incubator operates right now, but I don't have
any ideas about how to improve the situation. :(
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from PPMCs, by
making it explicit that PPMC members who both know their stuff and give back
to the Incubator are likely to get nominated for IMPC membership. That would
certainly help ease some of the long-standing problems associated with Mentor
attrition.
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your podling succeed over the long haul.
So I think it is in the interest of potential candidates to get involved, even
if the IPMC states that it's not a requirement.
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How about adding a requirement that podlings put a CONTRIBUTING document at
the top of their VCS tree?
That's an incremental change which fits within the current incubation workflow
and would be easy to audit.
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a Gui difference tool (WinDiff) to show the
differences.
Have to ignore SVN directories and (perhaps) EOL differences.
I use svn export to avoid the .svn directories, then diff -ur on the Unix
command line, optionally with --strip-trailing-cr when checking .zip
archives.
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On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 12:26:49PM +, sebb wrote:
On 12 January 2012 12:08, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote:
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 11:37:18AM +, sebb wrote:
How is this most easily accomplished? Checkout tag from SVN then
manually diff against the artifact, or some
relational stores. Anyway- the description seems
to be converging.
+1 (binding) on graduation. -C
Both the release that I reviewed and the Gora community's followup on the
issues that arose from that discussion were satisfactory.
+1 (binding) on graduation.
Good luck!
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On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 12:55:17PM -0600, Hyrum K Wright wrote:
Please vote:
[ ] +1 Accept Bloodhound for incubation
[ ] +0 Don't care
[ ] -1 Don't accept Bloodhound for incubation (please explain)
+1 (binding)
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and there
would work as contributions implicitly licensed under the upstream license.
But are there any precedents for handling major mods?
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Hi,
If no one lodges a formal objection within the next 48 hours, I'll claim lazy
consensus and ask Infra to follow through with setting @committers = rw for
svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/lucy.
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On Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 09:18:18PM -0800, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
Greets,
Roy
,
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will be taking on work that you would not otherwise
have to do.
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with busted vote threads about about broken builds, missing dependencies,
failing tests and so on. Votes should come to general@ only after technical
problems have been worked out.
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+1 votes -- but it
might be nice to update that language if it is misleading.
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with the efforts of their fellow
volunteers, they have the power to overrule them so long as they are willing
to do the work.
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On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 08:18:49PM +, ant elder wrote:
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com
wrote:
Not as frustrating as putting up a release candidate which twists in the
wind
for weeks waiting for a IPMC member to review because Mentors are awol
take on
responsibility for herding Mentors.
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to it,
we ensure that candidates for incubation continue to have access to the
resources that the Champion currently provides in advance of submitting their
proposal.
However, this PVP also assumes new responsibilities after incubation starts
which are currently going untended.
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upon which we all depend, no?
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of celebrating what was achieved, we encumber the resumes of our volunteers by
permanently enshrining their project's problems.
Is it any wonder that podlings linger when we make the alternative so
unpleasant?
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incurring
more administrative overhead.
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graphic:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-112
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12478522/egg_logo.png
Nobody objected, but I just got lazy and didn't push it the last mile, onto
the site.
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On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 03:09:08PM +0200, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com
wrote:
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 08:39:40AM +0100, ant elder wrote:
I don't want to get in the way of those who are doing all this good work
various kinds of comments as an extension.
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wizardry, spacial visualization skills and web design experience. The
centered-rigid layout will be easier for others to maintain and to keep things
looking right in all browsers and at all window widths.
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)=
74f75361d366b5629a36890e066d36c406c5ee05
Uh oh, ant test failed. :( Test output below my sig.
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resolve:
[mkdir] Created dir:
/Users/marvin/Desktop/gora/apache-gora-0.1.1-incubating/gora-tutorial/lib
[ivy:resolve] :: loading settings :: file =
/Users/marvin/Desktop/gora/apache-gora-0.1.1-incubating/ivy
/asf/incubator/gora/branches/0.1.1-incubating//connection
+
developerConnectionscm:svn:https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/gora/branches/0.1.1-incubating//developerConnection
+
urlhttp://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/gora/branches/0.1.1-incubating/url
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[INFO
these artifacts as is, then congratulations to the
Gora community. :)
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this week of discussion, and I believe that they will become
valuable and productive participants within Apache.
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On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 07:04:31PM -0700, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 10:26:24AM +0200, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
Another option which might be cleaner and less burdensome to administer
would
be to create a boilerplate Retired Podling static html page which would
/asf/incubator/lucy/trunk/devel/bin/release_commands.pl
Congrats on the release!
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On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 05:30:29PM -0700, Andrew Bayer wrote:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BIGTOP-43 and
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revisionrevision=1161801, e.g.
Works for me. Click either Subversion commits or All under an expanded
Activity section.
Nice feature...
Marvin
.
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in some sort of known-safe replacement.
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to the status page seems like
an OK fallback.
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in a manner consistent with other successful ASF projects. While incubation
status is not necessarily a reflection of the completeness or stability of
the code, it does indicate that the project has yet to be fully endorsed by
the ASF.
Regards,
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made while it was active.
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are file-for-file identical to a version-control tag.
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On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 01:57:03PM -0700, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
Please vote on releasing this candidate as Apache Lucy (incubating) version
0.2.1.
This vote has passed with 4 +1 votes from Lucy PPMC members and 3 +1 votes
from Incubator PMC members.
+1 Marvin Humphrey *+
+1 Chris
is my +1. Tested on CentOS 5 with Perl 5.10.0 and OS X Snow Leopard
with Perl 5.12.2.
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$ diff -ur apache-lucy-incubating-0.2.0/CHANGES
apache-lucy-incubating-0.2.1/CHANGES
--- apache-lucy-incubating-0.2.0/CHANGES2011-07-18 14:26:58.0 -0700
+++ apache-lucy-incubating
is not necessarily a reflection of the completeness or stability of
the code, it does indicate that the project has yet to be fully endorsed by
the ASF.
Regards,
Marvin Humphrey, on behalf of the Apache Lucy development team and community
Greets,
The vote to release RC 3 as Apache Lucy (incubating) 0.2.0 has passed, with
four +1 votes from Incubator PMC members.
+1 Stefan Bodewig+
+1 Marvin Humphrey*+
+1 Peter Karman*
+1 Chris Mattmann*+
+1 Joe Schaefer*+
+1 David E. Wheeler*
* indicates Lucy PPMC member
(and pointing out that I'm unable to compare two
numbers 8-) you now have my +1 as well.
On behalf of the Lucy community: Thank you for taking the time to audit our
work, and thank you for your +1 vote!
Cheers,
Marvin Humphrey
, and for
information on ASF voting procedures, see:
http://wiki.apache.org/lucy/ReleaseVerification
http://wiki.apache.org/lucy/ReleasePrep
http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html
Apache Lucy PPMC vote thread:
http://s.apache.org/Dj7
+1 Marvin Humphrey*+
+1 Peter Karman
will be doing
podlings a favor by communicating that this is a priority and asking for
updates -- it's easier to send reminders to lagging copyright holders when
someone is taking an active interest and insisting on accountability.
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. It looks like some
portions of the status page have been kept up to date, while others have been
missed. Some of the incomplete items are gimmes, while others, such as IP
clearance, will require some thought.
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a good laugh about all this in the #lucy_dev IRC channel a couple days
ago. One of the participants (who free-associated Oozie with sucking chest
wound) suggested that Hadoop projects might consider referencing stuffed
animals rather than elephants. :)
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Labs. That is the only reason for this unusual credit. It started as
personal research project and we have not reviewed this file ever since.
Thanks for pointing this out, I will fix it right away.
Fab, that's great. :)
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the LICENSE.txt and NOTICE.txt
files quite carefully. The RAT report was ran until it came back clean
twice. Those should be good.
Yep. I double checked and RAT only flags that silly DEPENDENCIES file.
License headers look good!
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. Can any of our more experienced hands
offer recommendations about the best way to proceed?
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for today and wanted to get you this feedback
sooner rather than later.
Best,
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marvin@smokey:~/Desktop/droids/droids-0.1-incubating $ diff -u NOTICE
NOTICE.txt
--- NOTICE 2011-05-25 21:36:50.0 -0700
+++ NOTICE.txt 2011-05-25 21:35:20.0 -0700
@@ -1,8 +1,58
of limbo, and to
determine what thresholds of contribution spawn committership offers in the
future.
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governance rules and
traditions.
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On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 12:02:44PM -0400, Sam Ruby wrote:
[ ] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation
[ ] +0 Indifferent to OpenOffice.org incubation
[ ] -1 Reject OpenOffice.org for incubation
+1 (binding)
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live up to it -- both the sake of the project and for our own
sake as human beings.
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and the clarifications from Andrew Rist
regarding the software grant, I can't imagine opposing this proposal any
longer. Looking forward to the vote thread...
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On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 09:38:48PM -0700, Jonathan Hsieh wrote:
[ ] +1 Accept Flume for incubation
[ ] +0 Indifferent to Flume incubation
[ ] -1 Reject Flume for incubation
+1 (binding)
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I'm glad you've taken a lead role in these outreach efforts.
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be addressed, I will regretfully vote -1 to deny the OOo podling
entry into the Incubator.
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Yes.
Are there any concerns/discussion with the proposal? (or are +1's basically
saying lgtm.)
That's how I've interpreted what I've seen so far. I didn't read it
throughoughly, but a brief skim gave me the impression of something which had
been well thought out.
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or
graduate from the Incubator, situations which might justify a more aggressive
marketing campaign. Does that sound reasonable?
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-handed as you step down
from your official role. It feels good to have your tenure end at this time
of celebration.
Onwards,
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On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 06:43:03PM -0400, Michael McCandless wrote:
Hi Lucy team and incubators,
I haven't been able to give nearly as much energy / time
and accumulated wisdom.
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with anything you encounter, please raise your concern on the dev list.
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