Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-12 Thread Jun Rao
Could someone help take a look at this? This should be pretty simple. We really want to proceed with the voting of the first release of Kafka. Thanks, Jun On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Neha Narkhede neha.narkh...@gmail.comwrote: Folks, Thanks for giving feedback on the LICENSE and NOTICE

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-09 Thread Neha Narkhede
Folks, Thanks for giving feedback on the LICENSE and NOTICE file issues. We've worked on the feedback and would appreciate if you could take a look and see if there are no red flags. Please find the LICENSE, NOTICE files and release artifacts for the next RC here -

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-08 Thread David Crossley
At Forrest we have stacks of supporting products to manage. Each time that we decide to bundle a new one, we try to deal with its license and potential notices at the time. Read their LICENSE. If it has a required notice then comply by adding it to our NOTICE file. If it does not, then there is

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-06 Thread Niclas Hedhman
Normally, when you ship the dependency together with your own product/project, then (AFAIK) that bigger work needs the NOTICE. If you don't ship it, let's say that you call it a System Requirement or Optional Plugin, then you don't need it. ALSO, more importantly, it looks like Voldemort depends

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-06 Thread Patrick Hunt
Ok, thanks for the feedback. I'll open a discussion for this on the whirr list/jira. Patrick On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 12:31 AM, Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org wrote: Normally, when you ship the dependency together with your own product/project, then (AFAIK) that bigger work needs the NOTICE.

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-06 Thread Kevan Miller
On Dec 5, 2011, at 9:45 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 6:25 AM, Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org wrote: Personally I don't believe whirr is in error. Voldemort is under Apache 2.0 license, and as such falls under this:

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-06 Thread Patrick Hunt
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Kevan Miller kevan.mil...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 5, 2011, at 9:45 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 6:25 AM, Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org wrote: Personally I don't believe whirr is in error. Voldemort is under Apache 2.0 license, and as such

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-06 Thread Patrick Hunt
I've opened a couple LEGAL jiras on this stuff to nail it down: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-118 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-119 Thanks all! Patrick On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Kevan Miller

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-06 Thread Kevan Miller
On Dec 6, 2011, at 12:54 PM, Patrick Hunt wrote: Here's another one, say Apache TLP A includes works from Apache TLP B, is this (B) a third-party work or not? Are the parties in this case singular the ASF or the TLPs? Specifically, do I need to include the NOTICE file from B in the NOTICE

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-06 Thread Patrick Hunt
Thanks Kevan. On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Kevan Miller kevan.mil...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 6, 2011, at 12:54 PM, Patrick Hunt wrote: Here's another one, say Apache TLP A includes works from Apache TLP B, is this (B) a third-party work or not? Are the parties in this case singular the

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-05 Thread Jakob Homan
There is a sample NOTICE file linked [1] from ASF Source Header and Copyright Notice Policy [2] [1] http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#faq-examplenotice [2] http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#notice As someone trying to generate these documents, I'm actually finding these

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-05 Thread Patrick Hunt
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Jakob Homan jgho...@gmail.com wrote: There is a sample NOTICE file linked [1] from ASF Source Header and Copyright Notice Policy [2] [1] http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#faq-examplenotice [2] http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#notice As

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-05 Thread Patrick Hunt
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org wrote: On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 6:25 AM, Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org wrote: Personally I don't believe whirr is in error. Voldemort is under Apache 2.0 license, and as such falls under this:

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-02 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Jun Rao jun...@gmail.com wrote: Does Apache has tools (like rat) to extract all the needed license? Digging out the license manually is both labour intensive and error prone. The rat community has started working on whisker[1] (and some other tools) but we

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-02 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 3:32 AM, Jakob Homan jgho...@gmail.com wrote:   You appear to have generated your list of jars from looking at kafka-0.7.0-incubating.tar.gz, the binary distribution that has been built as a customary courtesy as part of the release attempt.  This includes quite a

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-02 Thread sebb
On 2 December 2011 09:33, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 3:32 AM, Jakob Homan jgho...@gmail.com wrote:   You appear to have generated your list of jars from looking at kafka-0.7.0-incubating.tar.gz, the binary distribution that has been built as a

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-02 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 10:55 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 2 December 2011 09:33, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 3:32 AM, Jakob Homan jgho...@gmail.com wrote:   You appear to have generated your list of jars from looking at

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-02 Thread Kevan Miller
On Dec 2, 2011, at 3:51 PM, Jakob Homan wrote: So I hope it's clear why it's frustrating to have this rule suddenly pop up when it's apparently not enforced in the majority of cases (and then to be asked to go and open JIRAs for each of these projects on top of it). This requirement is

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-01 Thread sebb
On 1 December 2011 06:16, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: I notice that the NOTICE has this incomplete statement:   This product includes the scala runtime and compiler   (www.scala-lang.org) developed by EPFL, which includes   the following license: There is not any

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-01 Thread sebb
On 1 December 2011 02:29, Neha Narkhede neha.narkh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, The Kafka community is hoping to get some feedback on the updated NOTICE and LICENSE files for Kafka, before we post a new vote for it. http://people.apache.org/~nehanarkhede/NOTICE There are spurious === lines at

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-01 Thread Neha Narkhede
As it stands, either the NOTICE file is wrong, or the LICENSE file is wrong, because the NOTICE file should not mention 3rd party products that are not in the LICENSE file. Thanks for the feedback! As I have already mentioned, we are tracking a bug to fix all non-blocker changes to the NOTICE

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-01 Thread Kevan Miller
On Dec 1, 2011, at 12:55 PM, Neha Narkhede wrote: As it stands, either the NOTICE file is wrong, or the LICENSE file is wrong, because the NOTICE file should not mention 3rd party products that are not in the LICENSE file. Thanks for the feedback! As I have already mentioned, we are

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-01 Thread Chris Douglas
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Kevan Miller kevan.mil...@gmail.com wrote: I took a quick look at some of these artifacts. I definitely see licenses missing from the LICENSE file. For example: paranamer-2.2.jar -- http://paranamer.codehaus.org/info/license.html The link you reference puts

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-01 Thread Jun Rao
Does Apache has tools (like rat) to extract all the needed license? Digging out the license manually is both labour intensive and error prone. Thanks, Jun On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Kevan Miller kevan.mil...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 1, 2011, at 12:55 PM, Neha Narkhede wrote: As it

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-01 Thread sebb
On 1 December 2011 21:58, Chris Douglas cdoug...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Kevan Miller kevan.mil...@gmail.com wrote: I took a quick look at some of these artifacts. I definitely see licenses missing from the LICENSE file. For example: paranamer-2.2.jar --

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-01 Thread Jakob Homan
Kevan- You appear to have generated your list of jars from looking at kafka-0.7.0-incubating.tar.gz, the binary distribution that has been built as a customary courtesy as part of the release attempt. This includes quite a few jars that are not included in the source tree since binary

Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-11-30 Thread Neha Narkhede
Hi, The Kafka community is hoping to get some feedback on the updated NOTICE and LICENSE files for Kafka, before we post a new vote for it. http://people.apache.org/~nehanarkhede/NOTICE http://people.apache.org/~nehanarkhede/LICENSE The previous vote thread or release artifacts are here -

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-11-30 Thread Neha Narkhede
Also, we haven't ignored the fact that the NOTICE file must ideally be as short as possible. To track this issue, we've filed a bug - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-219 and will be fixing it for the next release. Thanks, Neha On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 6:29 PM, Neha Narkhede

RE: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-11-30 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I notice that the NOTICE has this incomplete statement: This product includes the scala runtime and compiler (www.scala-lang.org) developed by EPFL, which includes the following license: There is not any following license. I also notice that the LICENSE file has copyright notices. -