Re: [gentoo-user] Ssh DSA/RSA log in

2005-03-28 Thread Digby Tarvin
It doesn't seem to be very well documented, but $HOME/authorized_keys is for protocol 1 RSA (identity.pub) only. For protocol 2 DSA, and protocol 2 RSA (id_dsa.pub id_rsa.pub) you need to create a $HOME/authorized_keys2, ie $ cat id_dsa.pub id_rsa.pub authorized_keys2 It had me digging

Re: [gentoo-user] ftp server

2005-03-28 Thread Julien Cabillot
timothy johnson wrote: What ftp server would someone recommend to install with gentoo. just something simple to give my users the ability to upload/download to there home accounts -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list vsftpd http://vsftpd.beasts.org: * Security * Performance *

Re: [gentoo-user] What an average gentoo user does over 6mnth period

2005-03-28 Thread Richard Fish
Hah, I've been using Gentoo for almost a year now, and I'm still working on getting things setup right! Gentoo is the best! Anything that is written in C++ (X.org, mozilla, kde, openoffice, etc) takes a very long time, and a *lot* of memory to compile. This is mostly because gcc is fairly slow

[gentoo-user] Scanner and permissions

2005-03-28 Thread Robert S
With reference to the question about usb scanners and permissions (credit to http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Installing_USB_Scanner) Gentoo does not have an automatic way of setting up scanner permissions - maybe this should be moved to the official docs??: # /etc/init.d/usbscanner

Re: [gentoo-user] Ssh DSA/RSA log in

2005-03-28 Thread Dirk Raeder
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Pupeno wrote: Now Sandra can ssh from her account to her account on the same machine without a password. No, she can't, it doesn't work, check my commands and you'll see it is still asking for a password. My fault. It seems that the sshd

[gentoo-user] Gentoo sources

2005-03-28 Thread Digby Tarvin
This is a question from somebody who is just testing the water with the gentoo distribution.. probably basic, but I couldn't see the answer in the documentation or faq so... First some background - I am a long time user of the BSD/OS flavour of BSD Unix (since the days when Minix was the only

Re: [gentoo-user] Ssh DSA/RSA log in

2005-03-28 Thread Pupeno
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Je Lundo Marto 28 2005 05:01, Digby Tarvin skribis: It doesn't seem to be very well documented, but $HOME/authorized_keys is for protocol 1 RSA (identity.pub) only. I don't think that's the case anymore (I remember that, but long ago), in my other

Re: [gentoo-user] Lame fonts in xorg (bitmap-fonts ?)

2005-03-28 Thread Richard Fish
Grant wrote: I wanted to add to this that some fonts looks good and some do not. At cnn.com most of the fonts look bad, but the ones along the bar at the bottom (International Edition, CNN TV, Advertise With Us, About Us, etc.) are nice and smooth. I will try emerging without the bitmap-fonts

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Where could i found the standard of SQL

2005-03-28 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, 2005-03-28 at 15:34 +0800, Wang Penghui wrote: 2005-03-28 19:18 +1200Dion Sole AFAIK, you have to pay for those two standards -_- This sounds a bad news. Could i found some related documents in the Internet or any other place? Thanks Wang Penghui Whatever the answer

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE Emerge problem

2005-03-28 Thread Ian K
Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: Ian K wrote: I know that it was the first ebuild of the emerge process. Upon doing an emege -p kde i get: [ebuild U ] dev-libs/openssl-0.9.7e [0.9.7c-r1] (thats the first ebuild.) Just to be sure, try this: # emerge --oneshot =dev-libs/openssl-0.9.7e I

[gentoo-user] glibc update error

2005-03-28 Thread pat
Hi, I've decided to update whole system by 'emerge world' and glibc update throws an error: make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.4.20041102-r1/work/glibc-2.3.3/localedata' make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.4.20041102-r1/work/glibc-2.3.3' * Installing man

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What an average gentoo user does over 6mnth period

2005-03-28 Thread Antoine
Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: Harry Putnam wrote: different. But for now, I end up wanting to use emerge but can't because of these massive chunks of time needed to compile things like mozilla or kde. Not sure I understand why binaries for such things aren't commonly used. IMHO, use the

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge kills my computer

2005-03-28 Thread Richard Fish
What is being emerged at the time? (emerge -uD world -v --pretend) Also, do you have any -j? in MAKEOPTS in /etc/make.conf? If so, try taking it out. -Richard Pupeno wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 emerge killed my computer for the 15th time, I run emerge -uD world -v,

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge kills my computer

2005-03-28 Thread Richard Fish
Sorry for the duplicate posts. I keep hitting reply-all which wants to send to gentoo.org and robin.gentoo.org... -Richard Richard Fish wrote: What is being emerged at the time? (emerge -uD world -v --pretend) Also, do you have any -j? in MAKEOPTS in /etc/make.conf? If so, try taking it out.

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo sources

2005-03-28 Thread Steven Susbauer
The archived sources (afaik) for installed (and probably downloaded sources as well) programs are stored in /usr/portage/distfiles. This includes all patches to the application as well. Digby Tarvin wrote: This is a question from somebody who is just testing the water with the gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] ftp server

2005-03-28 Thread Julien Cabillot
timothy johnson wrote: What ftp server would someone recommend to install with gentoo. just something simple to give my users the ability to upload/download to there home accounts -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list vsftpd http://vsftpd.beasts.org: * Security * Performance *

Re: [gentoo-user] Ssh DSA/RSA log in

2005-03-28 Thread Digby Tarvin
Seems you are right. I had discovered the need for 'authorized_keys2' some time ago, and been using it ever since. But I just tried moving it to 'authorized_keys' and it appears that is now accepted for protocol 2 also. However I just tried: cd $HOME/.ssh scp

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge kills my computer

2005-03-28 Thread Robert Persson
The obvious thing that comes to mind is to get some more swap space and see what happens then. # dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/tempswapfile bs=1024 count=1048576 # [sudo] mkswap /tmp/tempswapfile should give you 1G extra swap space without repartitioning. That, plus your existing 0.5G swap, should be

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo sources

2005-03-28 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Monday 28 March 2005 10:25, Digby Tarvin wrote: After all, the only reason I really want to sit around and wait for a compile and build everytime I install a new package is so that I can be sure that the binary I am running corresponds to the source that I have. I suggest you to read

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo sources

2005-03-28 Thread Tero Grundström
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005, Digby Tarvin wrote: So the question is, how to I go about making sure that the sources that my system is built from reside on my disk, and how do I find them? A simple answer to your simple question... The sources are in /usr/portage/distfiles -- T.G. --

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-kernel/linux-headers (is blocking sys-kernel/linux26-headers-2.6.8.1-r2)

2005-03-28 Thread Holly Bostick
Robert Persson wrote: I imagine that if I tried to install the modular kde ebuilds, as opposed to emerging monolithic kde, I might be able to work round this problem, but I would have to unmerge kde before I started wouldn't I? That would put me at risk of being without a desktop manager for

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo sources

2005-03-28 Thread Myk Taylor
The source is available in the ${DISTDIR} directory (/var/tmp/distfiles by default, I think). If you just want the source, emerge -f packagename will get the raw source (OpenBSD's 'make fetch'). However, I haven't found the equivalent of OpenBSD's 'make patch'. It's done as part of the

Re: [gentoo-user] Ssh DSA/RSA log in

2005-03-28 Thread Henrik Andersson
Pupeno wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm trying to set up a passwordless log in, using ssh and dsa or rsa keys. For that, I first try to make it work for localhost. So, I do the following steps: [EMAIL PROTECTED] sandra $ cd .ssh Generate a dsa and rsa keys (just in

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo sources

2005-03-28 Thread Richard Fish
Well, some patches are stored in /usr/portage/distfiles. Others are in /usr/portage/group/pkg/files/. I think the ones in the files/ directory are those created by the Gentoo developers. Does anyone know if there is an official way to clean the distfiles directory of old sources. So far, the

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc update error

2005-03-28 Thread Felix Tiede
pat wrote: Hi, I've decided to update whole system by 'emerge world' and glibc update throws an error: make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.4.20041102-r1/work/glibc-2.3.3/localedata' make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.4.20041102-r1/work/glibc-2.3.3'

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc update error

2005-03-28 Thread Dion Sole
This should be fixed now.. Sync and try again pat wrote: Hi, I've decided to update whole system by 'emerge world' and glibc update throws an error: make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.4.20041102-r1/work/glibc-2.3.3/localedata' make[1]: Leaving directory

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo sources

2005-03-28 Thread Digby Tarvin
Thanks Myk (and everyone else that responded).. The bit about 'keeptemp' and 'keepwork' in /etc/make.conf sounds like the clue I was looking for. I'll have to see if it can be configured to keep a nice logical source tree similar to what I was used to under /usr/src so that my souces are always

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc update error

2005-03-28 Thread pat
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 11:44:57 +0200, Felix Tiede wrote pat wrote: Hi, I've decided to update whole system by 'emerge world' and glibc update throws an error: make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.4.20041102-r1/work/glibc-2.3.3/localedata' make[1]: Leaving

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo sources

2005-03-28 Thread Holly Bostick
Digby Tarvin wrote: However after going through the install process, the only sources which I can find in an expected place are the kernel sources. So the question is, how to I go about making sure that the sources that my system is built from reside on my disk, and how do I find them? They do

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] fix your client, please (was:Where could i found the standard of SQL)

2005-03-28 Thread Holly Bostick
Nick Rout wrote: Whatever the answer is, it will be the same no matter how many times you repeat the email! In other words, could those of you who still have their mail clients set to To: gentoo-user@gentoo.org CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] please adjust your clients to just mail to the list? The robin

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] fix your client, please

2005-03-28 Thread Richard Fish
I think the problem is reply all. Even your message was To: @robin.gentoo.org, with Reply-to: @gentoo.org, so if I had hit reply-all in thunderbird instead of reply, two copies would have gone out. My guess is mail clients are doing the right thing, but people get in the habit of using

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo sources

2005-03-28 Thread Joey
Myk Taylor wrote: The source is available in the ${DISTDIR} directory (/var/tmp/distfiles by default, I think). If you just want the source, emerge -f packagename will get the raw source (OpenBSD's 'make fetch'). However, I haven't found the equivalent of OpenBSD's 'make patch'. It's done

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo sources

2005-03-28 Thread Digby Tarvin
Hello Holly, Thanks for the advice. I must say I prefer the original Unix approach of putting all the sources under /usr/src, with the kernel going into /usr/src/sys. One of the reasons I like to have the unpacked sources for everything on my disk is that the with open source the documentation

Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.0 available?

2005-03-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 23:59:56 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: Second: That won't work for Neil anyway, because there is no /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.0/make.defaults err I never suggested that he switch to the 2005.0 profile in the first place, someone else did. I was just

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-kernel/linux-headers (is blocking sys-kernel/linux26-headers-2.6.8.1-r2)

2005-03-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 11:20:54 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote: I imagine that if I tried to install the modular kde ebuilds, as opposed to emerging monolithic kde, I might be able to work round this problem, but I would have to unmerge kde before I started wouldn't I? That would put me at

Re: [gentoo-user] Mouse issue

2005-03-28 Thread Stuart Howard
If you want a complete guide on your mouse I would recommend trying this webpage:- http://www.glaurung.demon.co.uk/info/linux.mx500.howto.html Helped me out a treat On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 19:09:33 +1200, Dion Sole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Add the number of buttons, and mhich buttons you want

[gentoo-user] Runlevel schizophrenia...

2005-03-28 Thread Digby Tarvin
Here is another basic gentoo newbie question - what is the logic behind the way runlevels work in gentoo?? I am used to the traditional numeric runlevels, with: runlevel 0 - System halt runlevel 1 - Single user mode runlevel 2 - Local multiuser without remote network (e.g.

[gentoo-user] Re: What an average gentoo user does over 6mnth period

2005-03-28 Thread Harry Putnam
Gabriel M. Beddingfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just because you use Gentoo doesn't mean you can't use binary packages. Some are in portage, and some are not. And yes, the install takes days of tweaking. But look it at as an investment. Unlike other OS's (e.g. Fedora), you'll only need

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] fix your client, please

2005-03-28 Thread Graham Murray
Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think the problem is reply all. Even your message was To: @robin.gentoo.org, with Reply-to: @gentoo.org, so if I had hit reply-all in thunderbird instead of reply, two copies would have gone out. My guess is mail clients are doing the right thing,

[gentoo-user] Re: I've tied my OS in a knot

2005-03-28 Thread Harry Putnam
Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [blocks B ] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.0-r4 (is blocking x11-base/opengl-update-2.1.1-r1) Hey Harry, what command are you running when you get that message? emerge -v -update -p world The message appears at the top of output What version of

Re: [gentoo-user] New features in 2005.0?

2005-03-28 Thread Graham Murray
Eugene Rosenzweig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: *2005.0 summary for Linux geeks:* Gentoo Linux 2005.0 now defaults to using kernel 2.6, and uses udev by default. Firefox 1.0.1 is included. Does this mean that we will soon see the 2.6 gentoo-sources packages un-masked and systems migrated to

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo sources

2005-03-28 Thread Holly Bostick
Digby Tarvin wrote: Hello Holly, Thanks for the advice. I must say I prefer the original Unix approach of putting all the sources under /usr/src, with the kernel going into /usr/src/sys. One of the reasons I like to have the unpacked sources for everything on my disk is that the with open source

Re: [gentoo-user] Runlevel schizophrenia...

2005-03-28 Thread Nick Rout
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2004.3/handbook-x86.xml?part=2chap=4 On Mon, 2005-03-28 at 12:11 +0100, Digby Tarvin wrote: Here is another basic gentoo newbie question - what is the logic behind the way runlevels work in gentoo?? Thanks, DigbyT -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] --

[gentoo-user] Re: I've tied my OS in a knot

2005-03-28 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Monday 28 March 2005 13:45, Harry Putnam wrote: root # emerge -v -p  xorg-x11  These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [blocks B     ] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.0-r4 (is blocking x11-base/opengl-update-2.1.1-r1) [ebuild     U ]

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] fix your client, please

2005-03-28 Thread Peter Karlsson
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005, Graham Murray wrote: I disagree. Reply to all is (normally) the correct way of sending a reply to a mailing list. Using 'reply' should send a private email to the poster of the message. If the mail client is 'doing the right thing', then it will just send the message to the

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge kills my computer

2005-03-28 Thread Tom Wesley
Robert Persson wrote: The obvious thing that comes to mind is to get some more swap space and see what happens then. # dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/tempswapfile bs=1024 count=1048576 # [sudo] mkswap /tmp/tempswapfile should give you 1G extra swap space without repartitioning. That, plus your

Re: [gentoo-user] Lame fonts in xorg (bitmap-fonts ?)

2005-03-28 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Grant wrote: I did notice this in the emerge's output: ^[[32;01m*^[[0m Creating fonts.scale files... ... /usr/portage/x11-base/xorg-x11/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r1.ebuild: line 1815: 16852 Segmentation fault LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}:${ROOT}/usr/$(get_libdi r)

Re: [gentoo-user] New features in 2005.0?

2005-03-28 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 12:54:13 +0100 Graham Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Eugene Rosenzweig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | *2005.0 summary for Linux geeks:* Gentoo Linux 2005.0 now defaults | to using kernel 2.6, and uses udev by default. Firefox 1.0.1 is | included. | | Does this mean that

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] fix your client, please

2005-03-28 Thread Holly Bostick
Graham Murray wrote: Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think the problem is reply all. Even your message was To: @robin.gentoo.org, with Reply-to: @gentoo.org, so if I had hit reply-all in thunderbird instead of reply, two copies would have gone out. My guess is mail clients are doing the

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo sources

2005-03-28 Thread Tom Wesley
Richard Fish wrote: Well, some patches are stored in /usr/portage/distfiles. Others are in /usr/portage/group/pkg/files/. I think the ones in the files/ directory are those created by the Gentoo developers. Does anyone know if there is an official way to clean the distfiles directory of

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] fix your client, please

2005-03-28 Thread Bastian Balthazar Bux
Graham Murray wrote: Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think the problem is reply all. Even your message was To: @robin.gentoo.org, with Reply-to: @gentoo.org, so if I had hit reply-all in thunderbird instead of reply, two copies would have gone out. My guess is mail clients are doing the

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo sources

2005-03-28 Thread Joey
Tom Wesley wrote: Richard Fish wrote: Well, some patches are stored in /usr/portage/distfiles. Others are in /usr/portage/group/pkg/files/. I think the ones in the files/ directory are those created by the Gentoo developers. Does anyone know if there is an official way to clean the distfiles

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Where could i found the standard of SQL

2005-03-28 Thread Bastian Balthazar Bux
Wang Penghui wrote: 2005-03-28 19:18 +1200Dion Sole AFAIK, you have to pay for those two standards -_- This sounds a bad news. Could i found some related documents in the Internet or any other place? Thanks Wang Penghui Wang Penghui wrote: Hi lists: I am looking for the standard of SQL

Re: [gentoo-user] Mouse issues

2005-03-28 Thread Stuart Howard
If you want a complete guide on your mouse I would recommend trying this webpage:- http://www.glaurung.demon.co.uk/info/linux.mx500.howto.html Helped me out a treat On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 21:19:54 +, Tim Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a logitech MX500 usb mouse and i'm having a

[gentoo-user] error compiling valgrind

2005-03-28 Thread Aleksandr Guidrevitch
Hi All, I can't emerge valgrind: i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -Winline -Wall -Wshadow -O -fno-omit-frame-pointer -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -g -DELFSZ=32 -O2 -march=i686 -funroll-loops -pipe -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -fno-pie -o valgrind -static -g -Wl,-e,_ume_entry stage1.o ume.o ume_entry.o

Re: [gentoo-user] libtool: link: `/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/libstdc++.la' is not a valid libtool archive

2005-03-28 Thread Daniel Westermann-Clark
On 2005-03-27 16:20:35 -0500, David Corbin wrote: libtool: link:`/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/libstdc++.la' is not a valid libtool archive [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/lib/gcc-lib] gcc-config -l [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.5 * [2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.5-hardened [3]

Re: [gentoo-user] Runlevel schizophrenia...

2005-03-28 Thread Jerry McBride
On Monday 28 March 2005 06:11 am, Digby Tarvin wrote: Here is another basic gentoo newbie question - what is the logic behind the way runlevels work in gentoo?? ---snip--- By now you've found the docs at gentoo.org... So I'll just be offering my opinion to this thread. (...one second while

Re: [gentoo-user] Runlevel schizophrenia...

2005-03-28 Thread Digby Tarvin
Great! Thanks Nick. That is just the sort of information I was looking for. Obviously I need to get a bit more used to where to find documentation on gentoo. I am used to being able to use 'man -k' to find most system documentation on BSD, with the addition of 'texinfo' and 'locate' since

[gentoo-user] Re: I've tied my OS in a knot

2005-03-28 Thread Harry Putnam
Francesco Talamona [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: man quickpkg Do a backup of xorg-x11-6.8.0-r4, unmerge it (now the circle is broken) and then go forward. OK, thanks .. that quickpkg is a nifty tool I've started the process so I guess it will run for quite awhile. I ran emerge -v xfc4 which

[gentoo-user] Please start new threads

2005-03-28 Thread Tom Wesley
Hi, Recently there have been lots of people thread hijacking on this list - it's one of my personal pet hates. Please create a *new email* for a new topic, don't just reply to one and change the subject. Anyone who isn't sure why this matters: http://www.tomaw.plus.com/threads.png -- Tom

[gentoo-user] Gentoo emacs users .. help on Info

2005-03-28 Thread Harry Putnam
I built my own emacs from cvs and installed in /usr/local not thru emerge. I use gnus newsreader so also got the cvs of that and built on /usr/local. In the past on different versions of linux I'd put lines in site-start.el telling emacs where to find the info files like this: [...]

Re: [gentoo-user] Runlevel schizophrenia...

2005-03-28 Thread Digby Tarvin
I can sympathise to an extent with your sentiments. SuSE Linux also embeds dependency information into their init scripts. For instance the script for xdm contains: ### BEGIN INIT INFO # Provides: xdm # Required-Start:$remote_fs $syslog ypbind # Required-Stop: #

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo emacs users .. help on Info

2005-03-28 Thread Jean Magnan de Bornier
Le mar mars à 15:14:51 Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit notamment: I built my own emacs from cvs and installed in /usr/local not thru emerge. I use gnus newsreader so also got the cvs of that and built on /usr/local. In the past on different versions of linux I'd put lines in

Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] error compiling valgrind

2005-03-28 Thread Aleksandr Guidrevitch
Hi All again, I was able to compile it after removing -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 from flags Sincerely, Alex -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] fix your client, please

2005-03-28 Thread Graham Murray
Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why? Isn't the point of replying to a mailing list to send the response to the sender, which is the list? Yes, which is why the correct response for the mailing list software is to send replies to the list and not to the author of the message being

Re: [gentoo-user] New features in 2005.0?

2005-03-28 Thread Graham Murray
Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When did you last sync? :) Yesterday evening (GMT). /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask still shows =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6 and =sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] fix your client, please

2005-03-28 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 14:48:19 +0100, Graham Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why? Isn't the point of replying to a mailing list to send the response to the sender, which is the list? Yes, which is why the correct response for the mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] What an average gentoo user does over 6mnth period

2005-03-28 Thread Christoph Eckert
So far I've spent a very lot of time waiting for something to finish emerging.   It seems like things like Mozilla take an extrordinary long time. OK, mozilla is a strage example. OTOH, I really like Gentoo, but certainly not for compiling everything by myself. I'd really like to see some

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] fix your client, please

2005-03-28 Thread Andrea Barisani
On Mon, Mar 28, 2005 at 06:06:51AM -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 14:48:19 +0100, Graham Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why? Isn't the point of replying to a mailing list to send the response to the sender, which is the list?

[gentoo-user] Re: Please start new threads

2005-03-28 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Monday 28 March 2005 15:13, Tom Wesley wrote: Hi, Recently there have been lots of people thread hijacking on this list - it's one of my personal pet hates. Please create a *new email* for a new topic, don't just reply to one and change the subject. Anyone who isn't sure why this

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo sources

2005-03-28 Thread Digby Tarvin
Hi, ... If, on the other hand, you treat the source code as the 'definative' documentation, then by keeping it around I know that there is nothing about my system that I cannot find out, and I never have to resort to trial and error to work out how something works. Works in what way? For

RE: [gentoo-user] CHOST *can* be changed!

2005-03-28 Thread Dave Nebinger
Impatient to an answer to my query whether or not I could change CHOST and CFLAGS in make.conf after having installed everything with reference to Intel arch instead of AMD, I went ahead anyway -- and it worked! After 7 3/4 tense hrs(!)xorg was emerged successfully. Well, almost. While the

RE: [gentoo-user] emerge/make failure i386 vs i686

2005-03-28 Thread Dave Nebinger
Trying to emerge the kde packages I get a make error from kde-libs build. Its looking for: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/libstdc++.la: i386 packages but what is installed there is: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/libstdc++.la i686 stuff. Do I need to pass

[gentoo-user] Old module keep wandering around

2005-03-28 Thread Patrick Marquetecken
Hi, I seem not to get rid of a kernel module i have tried out, at boot time i get error as: modprobe acx_pci fails The module is removed for the kernel source, i have rebuild my kernel with the clean option, there i no line in /etc/modules/autoload.d/kernel-2.6. Where kan i also look to

RE: [gentoo-user] configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables help!

2005-03-28 Thread Dave Nebinger
Unpacking patch-2.5.9.tar.gz to /var/tmp/portage/patch-2.5.9/work Source unpacked. configure: WARNING: If you wanted to set the --build type, don't use -- host. configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop. If you go to

[gentoo-user] udev migration

2005-03-28 Thread Covington, Chris
Hi all, Is this the current way to migrate to udev: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/udev-guide.xml with a 2.6 kernel (it references 2.5)? If not, what's a good way? --- Chris Covington IT Plus One Health Management 75 Maiden Lane Suite 801 NY, NY 10038 646-312-6269 http://www.plusoneactive.com

Re: [gentoo-user] udev migration

2005-03-28 Thread Covington, Chris
with a 2.6 kernel (it references 2.5)? I was mistaken on the 2.5 kernel part, but the question still stands. --- Chris Covington IT Plus One Health Management 75 Maiden Lane Suite 801 NY, NY 10038 646-312-6269 http://www.plusoneactive.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] fix your client, please

2005-03-28 Thread Richard Fish
See my new bug report against Thunderbird: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=288020 -Richard Richard Fish wrote: I think the problem is reply all. Even your message was To: @robin.gentoo.org, with Reply-to: @gentoo.org, so if I had hit reply-all in thunderbird instead of reply, two

[gentoo-user] about emerge -u world and emacs

2005-03-28 Thread Harry Putnam
I'm noticing on an `emerge -Du world that when something comes along that needs to be byte compiled by emacs it causes a failure and errors out. I'm pretty sure it is because I have a built from source install of emacs (not emerged) on /usr/local . What appears to be happing is that my

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo emacs users .. help on Info

2005-03-28 Thread Harry Putnam
Jean Magnan de Bornier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Any emacs users here who can shed some light on this? [...] No light, just to say I also have problems with info in gentoo's emacs-cvs :-( . I just started a thread on this on gnus.emacs.help I'll watch your thread but I'd guess the problem

[gentoo-user] emerge system = many automakes

2005-03-28 Thread Grant
Why does emerge system want to install 6 different automake versions in different slots and 2 different autoconf versions? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo emacs users .. help on Info

2005-03-28 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You can read your info files by using the C-u prefix, ehtn C-h-i will Yike not sure what made that type but it should be `C-u C-h i' -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo sources

2005-03-28 Thread James Hiscock
snip While I am at it, anyone know what the problem with the grip help menu is on gentoo? There's nothing wrong with grip or its help menu. Do you happen to have gnome-extra/yelp installed? I'm fairly certain the problem here is that you're missing the Gnome help browser... --

RE: [gentoo-user] emerge system = many automakes

2005-03-28 Thread Dave Nebinger
Why does emerge system want to install 6 different automake versions in different slots and 2 different autoconf versions? They are slotted. Different packages need different versions of auto{make,conf} to build properly. They don't take up that much space and ensure the system builds

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge system = many automakes

2005-03-28 Thread Jason Cooper
Dave Nebinger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled: [snip] They don't take up that much space and ensure the system builds properly, so don't worry about them. Don't look behind the curtain, there's nothing to see here. ;-) Cooper. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-user] Any posters getting bounce messages?

2005-03-28 Thread Dave Nebinger
I'm getting bounces from [EMAIL PROTECTED] I thought the mailing list was set up to auto-unregister folks when the bounce messages are returned? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 11:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

Re: [gentoo-user] Lame fonts in xorg (bitmap-fonts ?)

2005-03-28 Thread Grant
I wanted to add to this that some fonts looks good and some do not. At cnn.com most of the fonts look bad, but the ones along the bar at the bottom (International Edition, CNN TV, Advertise With Us, About Us, etc.) are nice and smooth. I will try emerging without the bitmap-fonts USE flag

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge system = many automakes

2005-03-28 Thread Grant
Why does emerge system want to install 6 different automake versions in different slots and 2 different autoconf versions? They are slotted. Different packages need different versions of auto{make,conf} to build properly. They don't take up that much space and ensure the system builds

Re: [gentoo-user] Any posters getting bounce messages?

2005-03-28 Thread Mark Knecht
Dave, Yes, I'm getting them. (I will from answering this message also!) ;-) It started the same time the list changes started requiring me to delete the Cc: entry also. I think this 'conversion' isn't going so well yet. - Mark On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 11:13:26 -0500, Dave Nebinger [EMAIL

[gentoo-user] Which FEATURES do you use?

2005-03-28 Thread Grant
Most of the FEATURES listed in make.conf.example sound good. Which ones do you guys actually use? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Runlevel schizophrenia...

2005-03-28 Thread Kiawud
I'm not even going to claim any expertise in this area. However, off the top of my head, I can see the following advantages to how Gentoo does the runlevel: 1) By adding 'softlevel' information to the grub settings, you can switch between runlevels at boot time instead of having to login, change

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo sources

2005-03-28 Thread Digby Tarvin
That did the trick - thanks. I'm not convinced that this isn't an indication of a problem though. Shouldn't 'emerge grip' have pulled in anything that grip depended on? Or failing that, shouldn't grip have complained about whatever it was looking for being missing rather than just silently

Re: [gentoo-user] What an average gentoo user does over 6mnth period

2005-03-28 Thread Tero Grundström
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005, Richard Fish wrote: Nothing on my system (3Ghz P4 1G ram) takes more than a few hours to compile, so it is always finished when I wake up in the morning. Then do an 'etc-update', reboot, and it is finished. Reboot? Why? AFAIK it is only necessary (or recommended), if you

Re: [gentoo-user] Which FEATURES do you use?

2005-03-28 Thread Octavio Ruiz (Ta^3)
Grant, who happens to be smarter than you, thinks: Most of the FEATURES listed in make.conf.example sound good. Which ones do you guys actually use? FEATURES=autoaddcvs autoconfig candy ccache distlocks sandbox sfperms strict userpriv usersandbox Lot of these are defaults. -- Go climb a

Re: [gentoo-user] Runlevel schizophrenia...

2005-03-28 Thread Digby Tarvin
Oh, I agree that being able to nominate a runlevel at boot time is a good thing. But I think it would be more consistent to do it by specifying it the same way that it is specified in inittab or to telinit, and the same way it is reported by 'who -r' That is, they should all use numeric

Re: [gentoo-user] Which FEATURES do you use?

2005-03-28 Thread Calvin Walton
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 08:41:35 -0800, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most of the FEATURES listed in make.conf.example sound good. Which ones do you guys actually use? - Grant The FEATURES I use: ccache distcc candy if you have a network with multiple gentoo computers, take a look at distcc.

Re: [gentoo-user] What an average gentoo user does over 6mnth period

2005-03-28 Thread Digby Tarvin
On the subject of etc-update, is there any way after an extensive update to work out which package is responsible for a config file update, such as: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 14676 Mar 28 15:25 ._cfg_rstartd.real Regards, DigbyT On Mon, Mar 28, 2005 at 07:52:37PM +0300, Tero Grundström

Re: [gentoo-user] Runlevel schizophrenia...

2005-03-28 Thread Matthew Cline
And I don't think just running all the scripts is enough to change runlevels. Normally you have to work out the difference between the old runlevel and the new, shutdown the things in the old runlevel that weren't in the new, and only start the things in the new runlevel that weren't in the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo emacs users .. help on Info

2005-03-28 Thread Jean Magnan de Bornier
Le mar mars à 17:43:18 Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit notamment: Jean Magnan de Bornier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Any emacs users here who can shed some light on this? [...] No light, just to say I also have problems with info in gentoo's emacs-cvs :-( . I just started a thread on

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What an average gentoo user does over 6mnth period

2005-03-28 Thread A. Khattri
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005, Harry Putnam wrote: I am an escapee from the fedora camp. (A long time redhat user who went with fedora branch). And you've hit the nail squarly above. I decided to jump ship recently because of the constant reinstalling if you follow testing branchs. I picked gentoo

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