On Thursday 05 February 2009 09:57:38 Dale wrote:
> Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > On Thursday 05 February 2009 09:28:50 Jesús Guerrero wrote:
> >> There are enough easy-to-use distros. Let us, "masochists", live in
> >> peace. We love pain, why do people care so much about what we do
> >> with our priva
Jesús Guerrero wrote:
El Jue, 5 de Febrero de 2009, 7:07, Nikos Chantziaras escribió:
Sebastián Magrà wrote:
The installation experience with the traditional method must be
mandatory... That's why I think we are better now that GLI is
deprecated...
That's not good. It hurts Gentoo's popula
Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Thursday 05 February 2009 09:28:50 Jesús Guerrero wrote:
There are enough easy-to-use distros. Let us, "masochists", live in
peace. We love pain, why do people care so much about what we do
with our privacy? :P [it's a joke, in case anyone didn't notice]
There have been
Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Thursday 05 February 2009 09:57:38 Dale wrote:
>
>> Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday 05 February 2009 09:28:50 Jesús Guerrero wrote:
>>>
There are enough easy-to-use distros. Let us, "masochists", live in
peace. We love pain, why do people c
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
Sebastián Magrí wrote:
The installation experience with the traditional method must be
mandatory... That's why I think we are better now that GLI is
deprecated...
That's not good. It hurts Gentoo's popularity
2009/2/4 Yannick Mortier
> 2009/2/4 Marcin Niskiewicz :
> Hello Marcin!
> I imply that you already have done some modifications to your
> syslog-ng.conf as logging everything the user type on the console is
> not in the standard file that comes with gentoo.
>
> Basically syslog-ng has got source
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Thursday 05 February 2009 00:05:55 Paul Hartman wrote:
Almost the same as mine, except I still have lots of font stuff in my
xorg.conf -- do those go somewhere else? or are they unneeded in
xorg.conf at all these
On 08:40 Thu 05 Feb , Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > On Thursday 05 February 2009 00:05:55 Paul Hartman wrote:
> > > Almost the same as mine, except I still have lots of font stuff in my
> > > xorg.conf -- do those go somewhere else? or are
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:21:35 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> look at the output of
>
> equery files vmware-workstation
>
> if vmware-config.pl isn't there, and it should be you have a buggy
> ebuild
vmware-config is no more with 6.5. I've not had to reconfigure the
network, but rebuilding the
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 3:29 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>>
>> On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>>>
>>> Sebastián Magrí wrote:
The installation experience with the traditional method must be
mandatory... That's why I think we are
El Jue, 5 de Febrero de 2009, 9:11, Nikos Chantziaras escribió:
> Jesús Guerrero wrote:
>
>> El Jue, 5 de Febrero de 2009, 7:07, Nikos Chantziaras escribió:
>>
>>> Sebastián Magrà wrote:
>>>
>>>
The installation experience with the traditional method must be
mandatory... That's why I th
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 10:13:54 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> > I can't think of a single reason why the installer should operate in
> > a different manner to the way the thing will be used.
>
> Because installation is boring. The easier it is, the better.
There is an automated installer in
Hi
I have in the last few days tried to get awstats up and running on my
gentoo box but without any luck.
I have emerge awstats without any problems and added this to my apache
configuration (/etc/apache/httpd.conf)
#AWStats configuration
Alias /awstatsclasses "/usr/share/webapps/awstats/
> But that would only allow you to have two kernels laying around. Right
> now I have these:
>
> r...@smoker / # ls /boot/bzImage-2*
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2355440 Jan 31 18:52 /boot/bzImage-2-28-r8-1
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2460088 Jan 2 20:13 /boot/bzImage-2.6.23-r8-7
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root r
Steven Lembark wrote:
>> But that would only allow you to have two kernels laying around. Right
>> now I have these:
>>
>> r...@smoker / # ls /boot/bzImage-2*
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2355440 Jan 31 18:52 /boot/bzImage-2-28-r8-1
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2460088 Jan 2 20:13 /boot/bzImage-2.6.23-
> A downside is that you'll need fast machines to comfortably build
> packages. I wouldn't use it on my Pentium 3 800Mhz for example. That
> would take ages to compile system/world with recent GCC versions. I
> guess GCC was much faster in the 2.x versions back then?
How painful is it, really,
Steven Lembark wrote:
A downside is that you'll need fast machines to comfortably build
packages. I wouldn't use it on my Pentium 3 800Mhz for example. That
would take ages to compile system/world with recent GCC versions. I
guess GCC was much faster in the 2.x versions back then?
How painfu
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Steven Lembark wrote:
>
> How painful is it, really, to run the job when you
> are asleep or away from the machine? Cron the update
> or use "at" to get the changes you want when you are
> away from the console.
>
Not painful, uncomfortable: When I get back home m
On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> >> Sebastián Magrí wrote:
> >>> The installation experience with the traditional method must be
> >>> mandatory... That's why I think we are better now
my style has always been to get the minimal installer. chroot, install
kernel to my specs then boot to hard drive, then start building it to
how i want it built.
the handbook is pretty specific and straight-forward. one just has to
follow it. i've done N installs over the years and i still
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:.
I can't think of a single reason why the installer should operate in a
different manner to the way the thing will be used.
Because installation is boring. The easier it is, the better.
wrong. The installatio
> Where did that bit of apocrypha come from, and why is it
> parroted by so many people?
Depending on what you do with the system it still can
be quite true. For example, there is a known bug in
the RH distro of Perl that leaves it running 10x slower
than a locally compiled version. There are a
On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:.
> >
> >>> I can't think of a single reason why the installer should operate in a
> >>> different manner to the way the thing will be used.
> >>
> >> Bec
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>> wrong. The installation needs a certain difficulty to keep idiots away.
>> Nobody needs idiots (except maybe ubuntu).
>
> That is insulting. My mother uses Ubuntu. Thanks for calling her an idiot.
> Obviou
Thank you Jesus and Paul. I will back up the libraries just in case.
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 8:46 PM, Jesús Guerrero wrote:
> El Mie, 4 de Febrero de 2009, 20:28, Paul Hartman escribió:
>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Damian wrote:
>>>
>>> Those shared objects were installed when I manually
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:36:45 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> Great thinking. Fortunately, there are people (like the Ubuntu folks)
> who don't think that way and are trying to make Linux more popular to
> people who need a computer to do tasks that are not related to the
> computer itself.
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 12:22:35 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> > How painful is it, really, to run the job when you
> > are asleep or away from the machine? Cron the update
> > or use "at" to get the changes you want when you are
> > away from the console.
>
> Well, to answer you question, it i
On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:.
>
> > I can't think of a single reason why the installer should operate in a
> > different manner to the way the thing will be used.
>
> Because installation is boring. The easier it is, the better.
wrong. The installation needs a certain d
On Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 02:26:40AM -0600, Dale wrote:
> Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > On Thursday 05 February 2009 09:57:38 Dale wrote:
> >
> >> Alan McKinnon wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Thursday 05 February 2009 09:28:50 Jesús Guerrero wrote:
> >>>
> There are enough easy-to-use distros. L
On 4 Feb 2009, at 21:29, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
...
To avoid running ntp-client and ntpd, look at the -g switch for ntpd.
It will make the big jump once and then keep the clock in sync.
So NTPD_OPTS="-g" in /etc/conf.d/ntpd ?
Stroller.
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>
>> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>>
>>> On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:.
>>>
>>>
> I can't think of a single reason why the installer should operate in a
> different
Cocoy Dayao wrote:
> my style has always been to get the minimal installer. chroot, install
> kernel to my specs then boot to hard drive, then start building it to
> how i want it built.
>
> the handbook is pretty specific and straight-forward. one just has to
> follow it. i've done N installs over
On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Saphirus Sage wrote:
> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> >> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> >>> On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:.
> >>>
> > I can't think of a single reason why the instal
On Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 09:31:07AM +0100, Penguin Lover Marcin Niskiewicz
squawked:
> It works fine (it writes history to history.log) but still it writes it to
> those 3 files (debug , syslog, messages) as well ...
> so now everything I type is written to 4 files (debug , syslog, messages and
>
On 3 Feb 2009, at 22:39, Grant Edwards wrote:
Whenever I see a write-up of Gentoo, it's describe as a system
similar to BSD "ports" where you build packages from source.
The main benefit claimed for this approach is that you get
better performance because all executables are optimized for
exact
On 2009-02-05, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 10:13:54 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>
>> > I can't think of a single reason why the installer should operate in
>> > a different manner to the way the thing will be used.
>>
>> Because installation is boring. The easier it is, the
On 2009-02-05, Dirk Uys wrote:
> The type of user I don't like is the ignorant type. Innocent
> users are ok, they don't know, but ignorant users choose not
> to know.
Surely there are things you use without knowing how they work.
You probably use a phone, but do you _really_ know how the
cellul
On 2009-02-05, Steven Lembark wrote:
>
>> A downside is that you'll need fast machines to comfortably build
>> packages. I wouldn't use it on my Pentium 3 800Mhz for example. That
>> would take ages to compile system/world with recent GCC versions. I
>> guess GCC was much faster in the 2.x vers
On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2009-02-05, Dirk Uys wrote:
> > The type of user I don't like is the ignorant type. Innocent
> > users are ok, they don't know, but ignorant users choose not
> > to know.
>
> Surely there are things you use without knowing how they work.
> Y
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 15:26:30 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote:
> If you can spend a week installing Gentoo, it's not a problem.
> If you need to have a machine up and running in an hour, it's a
> problem. Building OOo on the last install I did took well over
> 30 hours.
The GRP packages were cert
>> What could there be that wasn't already exposed during a very long
>> election campaign?
>
> A log. Everything that's censored in the mass media.
I'm still very interested in suggestions on uncensored media. I
watched one episode of Global Pulse by Link TV, this one (although
they seem to be d
Hey guys.. random Linux question.
If i have a bash process running on my machine that i am not 'attatched' to is
there anyway to access it and see what it is doing short of just killing it?
Thanks.
---
N: Jon Hardcastle
E: j...@ehardcastle.com
'..Be fearful when others are g
On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Jon Hardcastle wrote:
> Hey guys.. random Linux question.
>
> If i have a bash process running on my machine that i am not 'attatched' to
> is there anyway to access it and see what it is doing short of just killing
> it?
>
open files: lsof
everything else: strace
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Jon Hardcastle wrote:
> Hey guys.. random Linux question.
>
> If i have a bash process running on my machine that i am not 'attatched' to
> is there anyway to access it and see what it is doing short of just killing
> it?
>
Thanks.
See if it has a parent process
Stroller wrote:
[...]
To be honest, I am surprised this notion of "optimised executables" has
stuck around long enough that you've heard it, but it's an old joke to
many of us who were around in 2004.
But AFAIK, it *was* faster because Gentoo used the egcs fork of GCC
which did produce faste
Jon Hardcastle wrote:
Hey guys.. random Linux question.
If i have a bash process running on my machine that i am not 'attatched' to is
there anyway to access it and see what it is doing short of just killing it?
Thanks.
Give us the output of "ps aux | grep bash" and we might be able to tell
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> Stroller wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>> To be honest, I am surprised this notion of "optimised executables" has
>> stuck around long enough that you've heard it, but it's an old joke to many
>> of us who were around in 2004.
>
> But AFAIK, it *was
On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> Stroller wrote:
> > [...]
> > To be honest, I am surprised this notion of "optimised executables" has
> > stuck around long enough that you've heard it, but it's an old joke to
> > many of us who were around in 2004.
>
> But AFAIK, it *was*
On 2/5/2009 7:01 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
no. He is an idiot if he does not read the docs. Simple. Like people who don't
read the manual to their car or vcr and then complaining if something does not
work. Idiots.
"They should read the manual" is *not* a valid design goal for a system.
On Wednesday 04 February 2009 21:28:30 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Wednesday 04 February 2009 20:56:33 Naga wrote:
> > On Wednesday 04 February 2009 18:32:52 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > > On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:13:47 +0100, Naga wrote:
> > > > I was wondering if I'm the only one who is missing the "Oxyge
On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Mike Edenfield wrote:
> On 2/5/2009 7:01 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > no. He is an idiot if he does not read the docs. Simple. Like people who
> > don't read the manual to their car or vcr and then complaining if
> > something does not work. Idiots.
>
> "They s
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
gentoo's installer is EASY if you just read the docs.
I'd rather be installing and waiting for the installer to tell me what
to do rather than go read docs somewhere else :P
Naga wrote:
I've reinstalled KDE-4.2 from portage at least 3 times, and in between
compiling it from svn. The svn copy always works ok, the portage one is always
missing Oxygen.
Do you have kde-base/kdebase-desktoptheme installed? That's Oxygen.
On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > gentoo's installer is EASY if you just read the docs.
>
> I'd rather be installing and waiting for the installer to tell me what
> to do rather than go read docs somewhere else :P
and when the nice installer
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
gentoo's installer is EASY if you just read the docs.
I'd rather be installing and waiting for the installer to tell me what
to do rather than go read docs somewhere else :P
and wh
El Jue, 5 de Febrero de 2009, 12:36, Nikos Chantziaras escribió:
> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>
>> On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:.
>>
I can't think of a single reason why the installer should operate
in a different manner to the way the thing will be used.
>>> Be
On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> >> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> >>> gentoo's installer is EASY if you just read the docs.
> >>
> >> I'd rather be installing and waiting for the insta
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
gentoo's installer is EASY if you just read the docs.
I'd rather be installing and waiting for the installer to tell me what
to do rather than go read docs
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>> On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>>> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
gentoo's installer is EASY if you just read the docs.
>>> I'd rather be installing and waiting for the installer to tell me what
>>> to do rather th
El Jue, 5 de Febrero de 2009, 14:53, Saphirus Sage escribió:
> Cocoy Dayao wrote:
>
> There are certain situations where the "step-by-step" installer isn't
> adequate. For instance, when I was installing gentoo on my G4, it was
> straight forward and easy, but when I decided to do a minimal install
El Jue, 5 de Febrero de 2009, 16:23, Grant Edwards escribió:
> On 2009-02-05, Dirk Uys wrote:
>
>
>> The type of user I don't like is the ignorant type. Innocent
>> users are ok, they don't know, but ignorant users choose not to know.
>
> Surely there are things you use without knowing how they wo
El Jue, 5 de Febrero de 2009, 20:00, Mike Edenfield escribió:
> On 2/5/2009 7:01 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>
>
>> no. He is an idiot if he does not read the docs. Simple. Like people
>> who don't read the manual to their car or vcr and then complaining if
>> something does not work. Idiots.
>
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 21:03:30 +0100 (CET), Jesús Guerrero wrote:
> Gentoo is not a distro. You don't "use" it, It's a metadristro
> that can be used to build a proper distro, after that you can
> use the final product.
It's a flatpack distro ;-)
--
Neil Bothwick
Hi, I'm not a signature virus. W
Saphirus Sage wrote:
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
You're screwed anyway if you can't use the CLI installer correctly.
Reading the docs is fine, but they're written for geeks, not normal
people. Normal people don't have a clue what the docs are talking
about :)
It seems to me that not to many "no
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann
wrote:
>
> and gentoo was never meant for the clueless.
Ah, come on Volker, say what's true. My 81 year old dad uses Gentoo
and he cannot use vi.
Maybe you really meant, but didn't say, 'Gentoo was never meant for
the clueless administrato
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Joshua D Doll wrote:
> I think the Handbook and other Official gentoo docs are well and written. I
> feel they are so well written and informative that a new user could read and
> follow what the doc is trying to convey.
>
>
> --Joshua Doll
I agree. Everything ex
Jesús Guerrero wrote:
It's not "The community vs. you", you are part of the community
since the very moment you start using linux.
Most people don't want to be some part of some weird community. They
just want to use a computer. If they were looking for friends, they
might try the local spo
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Mark Knecht wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Joshua D Doll wrote:
>
>> I think the Handbook and other Official gentoo docs are well and written. I
>> feel they are so well written and informative that a new user could read and
>> follow what the doc is try
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
because it kept the 'i am too cool to read the docs' idiots away. Being forced
to read the documentation is a good thing - and it did not hurt gentoo's
popularity. Only after it started to catering to idiots and more and more of
loud mouthed 'I am the centre of the u
On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Mark Knecht wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > and gentoo was never meant for the clueless.
>
> Ah, come on Volker, say what's true. My 81 year old dad uses Gentoo
> and he cannot use vi.
>
> Maybe you really meant, but
Paul Hartman wrote:
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Mark Knecht wrote:
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Joshua D Doll wrote:
I think the Handbook and other Official gentoo docs are well and written. I
feel they are so well written and informative that a new user could read and
follow
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Paul Hartman
wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Mark Knecht wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Joshua D Doll wrote:
>>
>>> I think the Handbook and other Official gentoo docs are well and written. I
>>> feel they are so well written and informative
El Jue, 5 de Febrero de 2009, 21:25, Nikos Chantziaras escribió:
> Jesús Guerrero wrote:
>
>> It's not "The community vs. you", you are part of the community
>> since the very moment you start using linux.
>
> Most people don't want to be some part of some weird community. They
> just want to
El Jue, 5 de Febrero de 2009, 22:01, Jesús Guerrero escribió:
>
>
>
>
> El Jue, 5 de Febrero de 2009, 21:25, Nikos Chantziaras escribió:
>
>> Jesús Guerrero wrote:
>>
>>
>>> It's not "The community vs. you", you are part of the community
>>> since the very moment you start using linux.
>>
>> Most
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 22:25:11 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> Most people don't want to be some part of some weird community. They
> just want to use a computer. If they were looking for friends, they
> might try the local sports club.
Who are these people on whose behalf you speak? Why shou
Mark Knecht wrote:
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Paul Hartman
wrote:
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Mark Knecht wrote:
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Joshua D Doll wrote:
I think the Handbook and other Official gentoo docs are well and written. I
feel they are so well
Sorry for top posting, it's BlackBerry's behavior.
I cannot agree when you say that gentoo docs are written for geeks.
Gentoo's install guide is very well written and i18ed, at least in my native
language.
It takes the user step by step to prepare his enviroment, to install the
distro, and
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Joshua D Doll wrote:
> Paul Hartman wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Mark Knecht wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Joshua D Doll
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
I think the Handbook and other Official gentoo docs are well and
written
Paul Hartman wrote:
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Joshua D Doll wrote:
Paul Hartman wrote:
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Mark Knecht wrote:
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Joshua D Doll
wrote:
I think the Handbook and other Official gentoo docs are well and
Once you go through the steps instructed here,
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/liveusb.xml
Can the live CD install be altered to work just like a normal Gentoo system?
I have managed to get my hands on a 16GB flash drive, and am thinking of
trying it out.
Thanks
Sean
Mark Knecht wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Joshua D Doll wrote:
>
>
>> I think the Handbook and other Official gentoo docs are well and written. I
>> feel they are so well written and informative that a new user could read and
>> follow what the doc is trying to convey.
>>
>>
>> --Jo
Joshua D Doll wrote:
> Mark Knecht wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Paul Hartman
>> wrote:
>> I completely agree. I like the control also.
>>
>> I only took a *very* small exception to Joshua's statement that a 'new
>> user' could read, follow it and understand what it's telling him
Dale wrote:
Joshua D Doll wrote:
Mark Knecht wrote:
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Paul Hartman
wrote:
I completely agree. I like the control also.
I only took a *very* small exception to Joshua's statement that a 'new
user' could read, follow it and understand what it's telli
Joshua D Doll wrote:
> Dale wrote:
>> Joshua D Doll wrote:
>>
>>> Mark Knecht wrote:
>>>
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Paul Hartman
wrote: I completely agree. I
like the control also.
I only took a *very* small exception to Joshua's statement that a 'new
Saphirus Sage wrote:
Joshua D Doll wrote:
Dale wrote:
Joshua D Doll wrote:
Mark Knecht wrote:
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Paul Hartman
wrote: I completely agree. I
like the control also.
I only took a *very* small exception to Joshua's statement that a
On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 08:44 +, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:21:35 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>
> > look at the output of
> >
> > equery files vmware-workstation
> >
> > if vmware-config.pl isn't there, and it should be you have a buggy
> > ebuild
It isn't in the equery
On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 13:04 +, Stroller wrote:
> On 4 Feb 2009, at 21:29, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
> > ...
> > To avoid running ntp-client and ntpd, look at the -g switch for ntpd.
> > It will make the big jump once and then keep the clock in sync.
>
>
> So NTPD_OPTS="-g" in /etc/conf.d/ntpd ?
>
On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 08:44 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote:
> OK, so the question is why does VMWare not "work", ie. it still asks for
> vmware-config.pl and doesn't run.
after playing with vmware-netcfg, searching more on google and chmoding
various things, all to no effect, I remembered this file:
Joshua D Doll wrote:
> Saphirus Sage wrote:
>> Joshua D Doll wrote:
>>
>>> Dale wrote:
>>>
Joshua D Doll wrote:
> Mark Knecht wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Paul Hartman
>> wrote: I completely agree. I
>> like the contro
Dale wrote:
> Joshua D Doll wrote:
>
>> Saphirus Sage wrote:
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>>> Joshua D Doll wrote:
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>>>
Dale wrote:
> Joshua D Doll wrote:
>
>
>
>> Mark Knecht wrote:
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>>> On Thu, F
On 5 Feb 2009, at 23:12, Joshua D Doll wrote:
... Also man pages lacking valuable information is the reason why
GNU has switched to the majority of their packages to using info!
I suspect the reason for this is far more about navigation then
contents. GNU can rewrite all their man pages if
On 5 Feb 2009, at 23:03, Saphirus Sage wrote:
...
Man pages are notoriously bad. The gentoo handbook and other official
docs are great OTOH.
Man pages notoriously bad?! Now that's a stance I can hardly
understand,
they've always been a godsend in my experience! Just practice using a
comman
El Vie, 6 de Febrero de 2009, 4:03, Stroller escribió:
>
> My experience is that only after learning the syntax of manpages (is
> that itself documented?) do I find most of them tremendously easy to
> navigate to find the one specific option I'm looking for.
>
If all the problem about man pages is
* Grant wrote:
>
> Can you recommend a non-biased news source online?
http://www.breakthematrix.com/
http://www.infowars.com/
cu
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I have read the guide on gentoo-wiki about setting up portage to work
over NFS[0] and have it mostly working. I have two issues that I would
like to work out:
1) I use sync-eix to update portage and my overlays (via layman). I
want the client to still be able to run sync-eix, but have it only ru
I have read the guide on gentoo-wiki about setting up portage to work
over NFS[0] and have it mostly working. I have two issues that I would
like to work out:
1) I use sync-eix to update portage and my overlays (via layman). I
want the client to still be able to run sync-eix, but have it only ru
On 6 Feb 2009, at 03:08, Jesús Guerrero wrote:
El Vie, 6 de Febrero de 2009, 4:03, Stroller escribió:
My experience is that only after learning the syntax of manpages (is
that itself documented?) do I find most of them tremendously easy to
navigate to find the one specific option I'm looking f
El Vie, 6 de Febrero de 2009, 5:40, Stroller escribió:
>
> less [-[+]aBcCdeEfFgGiIJKLmMnNqQrRsSuUVwWX~] [-b space] [-h lines] [-j
> line] [-k keyfile] [-{oO} logfile] [-p pattern] [-P prompt] [-t tag]
> [-T tagsfile] [-x tab,...] [-y lines] [-[z] lines]
> [-# shift] [+[+]cmd] [--] [filename]...
>
>
Hi all,
recently my SD card just went bonkers. Unfortunately I lost a lot of
photos on it (backups are useless until the data actually gets to the
backup...) but fortunately I was able to use a program to recover about
170 photos.
Anyway, I don't know if it was just static, shock, dead card, or
Hello,
I have encountered a problem maintaining my system using revdep-rebuild. I
have both gcc-3.4.6 and gcc-4.3.2 installed on my machine. I mainly use
gcc4, but sometimes I need g77 because many people at my laboratory use
fortran code that is not compliant with gfortran standards.
However,
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