Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do I need firmware for an integrated graphics unit?

On Wednesday, 21 August 2024 12:39:58 BST Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hello, Grant. > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 00:30:25 -, Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2024-08-20, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > > I've just treated myself to a new machine based on a Ryzen 9 7900 > > > processor. I chose the second ne

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do I need firmware for an integrated graphics unit?

Hello, Grant. On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 00:30:25 -, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-08-20, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > I've just treated myself to a new machine based on a Ryzen 9 7900 > > processor. I chose the second newest generation so as not to get caught > > out with not quite debugged sys

[gentoo-user] Re: Do I need firmware for an integrated graphics unit?

On 2024-08-20, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > I've just treated myself to a new machine based on a Ryzen 9 7900 > processor. I chose the second newest generation so as not to get caught > out with not quite debugged systems like I did the last time round. > > Anyhow, I'm up to the stage of configuring

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 17 new packages because pip wants to write poetry?

On 7/29/24 4:09 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > Right, but that's only useful after you track down the trigger for the > new packages. What would be nice is avoiding that "tracking down" > effort. [I know, I should just relax, hit 'Y', and trust that emerge > and the devs know what they're doing.] Th

[gentoo-user] Re: 17 new packages because pip wants to write poetry?

On 2024-07-29, Eli Schwartz wrote: >> [...] I (for one) would appreciate some sort of notice when such an >> unbundling happens so that I don't waste time trying to track down >> why emerge suddenly wants to install a bunch of new packages. I >> can't really come up with a good mechanism for tha

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 17 new packages because pip wants to write poetry?

On 7/29/24 2:05 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-07-29, Eli Schwartz wrote: >> >>> It turns out dev-python/poetry has nothing to do with poetry, so my AI >>> paranoia was unjustified (this time), but one wonders what devs are >>> thinking when the decide they add dozens of new dependencies like

[gentoo-user] Re: 17 new packages because pip wants to write poetry?

On 2024-07-29, Eli Schwartz wrote: > >> It turns out dev-python/poetry has nothing to do with poetry, so my AI >> paranoia was unjustified (this time), but one wonders what devs are >> thinking when the decide they add dozens of new dependencies like >> that. Why does pip suddenly need to format (

[gentoo-user] Re: Fonts: was: New monitor, new problem. Everything LARGE O_O

On 2024-07-07, Jack wrote: > To how fonts are designed, many if not most modern fonts (such as > true-type) are specified internally by the commands to draw each > character, and you request the size in points. The conversion to how > many pixels to use is based on the DPI the system thinks

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE6 and Pipewire control change

Dale wrote: > Dale wrote: >> Mark Knecht wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 3, 2024 at 6:33 AM Dale >> > wrote: >>> >>> > Actually, it does.  Thing is, it doesn't show the HDMI as a option in >>> > the list.  I bet the reason it doesn't show up under applications like >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE6 and Pipewire control change

Dale wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 3, 2024 at 6:33 AM Dale > > wrote: >> >> > Actually, it does.  Thing is, it doesn't show the HDMI as a option in >> > the list.  I bet the reason it doesn't show up under applications like >> > it did before is beca

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE6 and Pipewire control change

Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 3, 2024 at 6:33 AM Dale > wrote: > > > Actually, it does.  Thing is, it doesn't show the HDMI as a option in > > the list.  I bet the reason it doesn't show up under applications like > > it did before is because it only sees the m

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE6 and Pipewire control change

On Wed, Jul 3, 2024 at 6:33 AM Dale wrote: > Actually, it does. Thing is, it doesn't show the HDMI as a option in > the list. I bet the reason it doesn't show up under applications like > it did before is because it only sees the main speakers as a option. No > need showing options when there

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE6 and Pipewire control change

Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 02/07/2024 15:46, Dale wrote: >> I can't find the controls I used to have with the new >> pipewire. > Does it show up in the "Devices" tab? > > > Actually, it does.  Thing is, it doesn't show the HDMI as a option in the list.  I bet the reason it doesn't show up unde

[gentoo-user] Re: KDE6 and Pipewire control change

On 02/07/2024 15:46, Dale wrote: I can't find the controls I used to have with the new pipewire. Does it show up in the "Devices" tab?

[gentoo-user] Re: Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

On 2024-06-28, Dale wrote: > Before I ran out of steam this morning, I tried the nouveau drivers > again.  I never can remember how to spell that. :/  I unmerged the > nvidia drivers to do this.  I used the in tree nouveau drivers tho.  For > some reason, even tho I removed the nvidia package and

[gentoo-user] Re: Eliminating unwanted linux-firmware blobs.

On 2024-06-28, Eli Schwartz wrote: > On 6/28/24 6:31 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: >> On Friday, 28 June 2024 20:32:11 BST Tsukasa Mcp_Reznor wrote: >> >>> Remove the date.so it becomes >>> /etc/portage/savedconfig/sys-kernel/linux-firmware then it applies to all >>> of them and not the specified

[gentoo-user] Re: Eliminating unwanted linux-firmware blobs.

On 2024-06-28, Tsukasa Mcp_Reznor wrote: > Remove the date.so it becomes > /etc/portage/savedconfig/sys-kernel/linux-firmware > then it applies to all of them and not the specified version. Yes, that's the clue I was missing. -- Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Config file updates and using diff.

Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-06-27, Dale wrote: >> Howdy, >> >> I just finished a large update on my main rig.  I have a lot of config >> files to update and some have new entries that are needed but I don't >> want to lose the ones I've already set.  Usually, I just pick the new >> one and have

[gentoo-user] Re: Config file updates and using diff.

On 2024-06-27, Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > I just finished a large update on my main rig.  I have a lot of config > files to update and some have new entries that are needed but I don't > want to lose the ones I've already set.  Usually, I just pick the new > one and have a saved copy of the old conf

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

Michael wrote: > On Monday, 24 June 2024 22:52:31 BST Dale wrote: >> Grant Edwards wrote: >>> On 2024-06-24, Dale wrote: Michael wrote: > On Monday, 24 June 2024 20:47:15 BST Dale wrote: >> Have you seen this before? > No, because I've never used dracut. I just had a thought.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

On Monday, 24 June 2024 22:52:31 BST Dale wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2024-06-24, Dale wrote: > >> Michael wrote: > >>> On Monday, 24 June 2024 20:47:15 BST Dale wrote: > Have you seen this before? > >>> > >>> No, because I've never used dracut. > >> > >> I just had a thought. I h

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-06-24, Dale wrote: >> Michael wrote: >>> On Monday, 24 June 2024 20:47:15 BST Dale wrote: >>> Have you seen this before? >>> No, because I've never used dracut. >> I just had a thought.  I have /usr on the root partition now.  Do I even >> need a init thingy?  >

[gentoo-user] Re: Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

On 2024-06-24, Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: >> On Monday, 24 June 2024 20:47:15 BST Dale wrote: >> >>> Have you seen this before? >> No, because I've never used dracut. > > I just had a thought.  I have /usr on the root partition now.  Do I even > need a init thingy?  Same question as always: doe

[gentoo-user] Re: Can't get Snap working

On 18/06/2024 12:00, Michael wrote: On Monday, 17 June 2024 16:43:04 BST Nikos Chantziaras wrote: So Skype for Linux isn't updated anymore other than its Snap version. So I tried to install that by following the instructions here: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Snap As well as here for AppAr

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Keep getting LC_ALL error during install.

On 6/16/24 7:22 PM, Wols Lists wrote: > On 16/06/2024 23:39, Nuno Silva wrote: >>> And of course, all the rules get bent by the various >>> manufacturers. Bear in mind that basic EFI predates vFAT so even in >>> UEFI vFAT isn't actually mandatory. Apple don't use it, iirc. There's >>> nothing stopp

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Keep getting LC_ALL error during install.

On 16/06/2024 23:39, Nuno Silva wrote: And of course, all the rules get bent by the various manufacturers. Bear in mind that basic EFI predates vFAT so even in UEFI vFAT isn't actually mandatory. Apple don't use it, iirc. There's nothing stopping GNU's OpenBIOS project or whatever it is using ext

[gentoo-user] Re: Keep getting LC_ALL error during install.

On 2024-06-16, Wol wrote: > On 15/06/2024 20:35, Dale wrote: >> I'm not opposed to efi.  I remember when the old Grub reached its >> end of life. Grub2 is different but it works.  I don't use the eye >> candy part so that makes it even easier.  The biggest thing, I copy >> my kernels and such over

[gentoo-user] Re: Difficulty with updating /etc/basb/bashrc

On 2024-06-14, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hello, Netfab. > > On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 18:22:11 +0200, netfab wrote: >> Le 14/06/24 à 17:53, Alan Mackenzie a tapoté : >> > Right now, I have a problem. Is there any convenient way I can get >> > the older standard file contents back again, so as to be a

[gentoo-user] Re: Arrow and edit keys?

On 2024-06-15, Michael wrote: > On Saturday, 15 June 2024 19:20:26 BST Alan Grimes wrote: >> A number of my softwarez requires the use of the arrow keys and can't >> use the numpad in edit mode to work around it. So who do I need to kill >> to get arrow keys to work in x11 again? > > I don't under

[gentoo-user] Re: CPU frequency governors and temperatures

On 14/06/2024 14:53, Walter Dnes wrote: On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 10:49:57PM -0500, Dale wrote model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-10400 CPU @ 2.90GHz Specs for your CPU are here: https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/199271/intel-core-i5-10400-processor-12m-cache-up-to-4-30-g

[gentoo-user] Re: [SOLVED] CPU frequency governors and temperatures

It's been a productive day today. TIL (Today I Learned)... 1) Turning off "hyperthreads" in the BIOS, and getting a more secure system, without noticable speed impact. 2) Turning off "TurboBoost" in the BIOS. Yes, boost will speed up short bursts like compiling the kernel by going to a ridicu

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: (EE) AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0 [SOLVED]

On Tuesday, 11 June 2024 20:17:44 BST n952162 wrote: > On 6/11/24 17:58, n952162 wrote: > > Am I forgetting something ? > > Yes. x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel This package will be brought in as a dependency by emerge, as long as you have specified the correct VIDEO_CARDS="" drivers[1] in your

[gentoo-user] Re: (EE) AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0 [SOLVED]

On 6/11/24 17:58, n952162 wrote: Am I forgetting something ? Yes. x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel

[gentoo-user] re: gentoo and gpg

I found a solution that worked for the gpg warning about /etc/portage/gpg not having safe ownership. The gnupg directory had to be backed up and I needed to run uto again and uto took some time processing the keys but it got it done. -- Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liber

[gentoo-user] Re: Sound missing suddenly?

Nevermind, i had to switch sound servers to pipewire and that fixed it. On Thu, Jun 6, 2024 at 5:13 PM, Meowie Gamer <[meowiega...@proton.me](mailto:On Thu, Jun 6, 2024 at 5:13 PM, Meowie Gamer < wrote: > I don't know what to do at this point. After an emerge -avuDN @world, my > sound just comp

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 3:33 PM Wols Lists wrote: > > On 05/06/2024 20:15, Meowie Gamer wrote: > > I must've taken too long to join the mailing list because I missed the > > first part of whatever's happening here. How did this turn from python 3.12 > > to a conversation about USE? > > > > Becaus

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

--- Original message --- From: Grant Edwards To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2024 22:07:06 +0200 On 2024-06-05, Wols Lists wrote: On 05/06/2024 13:12, Eli Schwartz wr

[gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

On 2024-06-05, Wols Lists wrote: > On 05/06/2024 13:12, Eli Schwartz wrote: >> Which I think is fine, if people want that, but not everyone does, so >> delaying the update altogether might be preferable to those people. > > Ie people like me who don't give a monkeys about python, and consider it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

I see, thanks for clearing it up. Meowie

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

Meowie Gamer wrote: > I must've taken too long to join the mailing list because I missed the first > part of whatever's happening here. How did this turn from python 3.12 to a > conversation about USE? > > Because depending on what path you took to deal with this, you could end up with entries

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

On 05/06/2024 20:15, Meowie Gamer wrote: I must've taken too long to join the mailing list because I missed the first part of whatever's happening here. How did this turn from python 3.12 to a conversation about USE? Because they're using USE or whatever to force packages to stay on 3.11, b

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

Wols Lists wrote: > On 05/06/2024 13:28, Rich Freeman wrote: >> Implementing dynamic USE management would take somebody a fair bit of >> effort, and for all I know it would make every emerge you run take an >> hour to recompute the dependency tree.  The ability to configure USE >> flags, along with

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

I must've taken too long to join the mailing list because I missed the first part of whatever's happening here. How did this turn from python 3.12 to a conversation about USE?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

On 05/06/2024 13:28, Rich Freeman wrote: Implementing dynamic USE management would take somebody a fair bit of effort, and for all I know it would make every emerge you run take an hour to recompute the dependency tree. The ability to configure USE flags, along with the ability to dynamically de

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

On 6/5/24 2:05 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > What I found misleading (and tripped over) was the implication that > the three step migration process outlined in the news item had a > reasonable likelyhood of working for a large percentage of users. > > If the new items had warned that anybody using on

[gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

On 2024-06-05, Arve Barsnes wrote: > On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 at 20:05, Grant Edwards wrote: >> What I found misleading (and tripped over) was the implication that >> the three step migration process outlined in the news item had a >> reasonable likelyhood of working for a large percentage of users. >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 at 20:05, Grant Edwards wrote: > What I found misleading (and tripped over) was the implication that > the three step migration process outlined in the news item had a > reasonable likelyhood of working for a large percentage of users. > > If the new items had warned that anybod

[gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

On 2024-06-05, byte.size...@simplelogin.com wrote: > 2) Was anything really 'broken'? Most certainly no, going by the above > definition and the fact that the news item provided for a very clear > pathway to maintain compatibility that was essentially a two-line solution. I think that build

[gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

On 2024-06-05, Eli Schwartz wrote: > On 6/4/24 11:04 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2024-06-04, Eli Schwartz wrote: >>> If a package claimed to support python 3.12 and nonetheless failed to >>> build with it, that's a bug in the package -- can you provide more details? >> >> IIRC, the first one

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 6:41 AM Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > > And no, I don't buy the point of view that it's the responsibility of > the developers when my personal set of USE flags suddenly causes con- > flicts. > Agree, but keep in mind that having personal sets of USE flags is basically a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

Grant, On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 17:00:29 - (UTC) you wrote: > ... > I don't see how (even in theory) steps 2 and 3 can work when you have > packages installed that won't build with 3.12. That depends on your definition of "work". It occurs even when doing normal updates that you run into a USE

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

On 6/4/24 11:04 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-06-04, Eli Schwartz wrote: >> If a package claimed to support python 3.12 and nonetheless failed to >> build with it, that's a bug in the package -- can you provide more details? > > IIRC, the first one was pycxx. The build faild during the conf

[gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

On 2024-06-04, Eli Schwartz wrote: > On 6/4/24 4:58 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2024-06-04, Eli Schwartz wrote: >> >>> Note that it's not a build failure -- it is an upgrade calculation >>> failure. It fails before upgrading any packages since it knows it can't >>> resolve the dependencies. >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

On 6/4/24 4:58 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-06-04, Eli Schwartz wrote: > >> Note that it's not a build failure -- it is an upgrade calculation >> failure. It fails before upgrading any packages since it knows it can't >> resolve the dependencies. > > I had plenty of both. If a package cl

[gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

On 2024-06-04, Eli Schwartz wrote: > Note that it's not a build failure -- it is an upgrade calculation > failure. It fails before upgrading any packages since it knows it can't > resolve the dependencies. I had plenty of both. -- Grant

[gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

On 2024-06-04, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > > Did nobody of ye all ever read news item 48, dated 2024-05-09? It laid > out a three-step approach which surely caused at least some packages to > be built twice or even three times, but it JUST WORKED (tm), at least > here. It only required creati

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On 03/06/2024 16:34, Dale wrote: The way I did my last two rigs is this.  Find the fastest CPU.  Drop down about 2 models.  That is not the fastest but very close to it but a LOT cheaper.  Then buy a mobo and memory to go with it.  You get a system that is likely close to 90% of the fastest you c

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Wols Lists wrote: > On 03/06/2024 12:07, MasterP wrote: >> *NOTE*: Almost minutes after I wrote this, and before posting it, AMD >> announced at Computex that the new gen will be available next month. So >> maybe waiting for the new processors could be a good idea. Although >> at the >> launch, bot

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On 03/06/2024 12:07, MasterP wrote: *NOTE*: Almost minutes after I wrote this, and before posting it, AMD announced at Computex that the new gen will be available next month. So maybe waiting for the new processors could be a good idea. Although at the launch, both the new boards and cpus are pro

[gentoo-user] Re: Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 00:38:13 -0500, Dale wrote: > Howdy, again, > > First, I'm not to thrilled with this mobo.  I'd still like to have more > PCIe slots, even x1 ones would help.  It's the best I've found so far. > It might be able to do the job.  I hope anyway.  Naturally, this will > have Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: preparing /dev/sda1 for gentoo install x86 handbook

On Sun, Jun 2, 2024, 13:28 Nuno Silva wrote: > (Well, one request I have is to please don't top-post in this > list. That's not the common style in this list, and tends to be an > approach mostly from the Microsoft and business worlds.) > Top-posting is the default in Gmail, and there's no intui

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: preparing /dev/sda1 for gentoo install x86 handbook

Nuno Silva wrote: > Some people may prefer one method of communication to the other, and one > thing that has perhaps been lacking in Gentoo is more people reading the > mailing list, which might allow finding out about (and acting on) some > issues sooner. I agree with this.  I subscribe to the -

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: preparing /dev/sda1 for gentoo install x86 handbook

On Sunday, 2 June 2024 01:54:08 BST Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-06-01, Wol wrote: > > I've got news for you, there are quite a few weirdos on the list, > > Hey! I resemble that remark. Hey! Are you pinching my joke? -- Regards, Peter. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed

[gentoo-user] Re: preparing /dev/sda1 for gentoo install x86 handbook

On 2024-06-01, Kévin GASPARD DE RENEFORT wrote: > Le 01/06/2024 à 22:15, Wol a écrit : >> On 31/05/2024 16:26, Nuno Silva wrote: >>> On 2024-05-31, Kévin GASPARD DE RENEFORT wrote: >>> Is this not possible to go, as I said, on IRC or use the discussion page ? This is not really

[gentoo-user] Re: preparing /dev/sda1 for gentoo install x86 handbook

On 2024-06-01, Wol wrote: > I've got news for you, there are quite a few weirdos on the list, Hey! I resemble that remark. [Hmm. That's not as funny in print.]

[gentoo-user] Re: Getting started with a web server

On 2024-06-01, George Kettleborough wrote: > If you only want to build a static site (ie. just HTML, CSS, JS etc; no > server-side scripting) then you don't need to install and configure > something like Apache to test it out. You could just open the files you're > working on straight from the di

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: preparing /dev/sda1 for gentoo install x86 handbook

Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 1:16 PM Wol > wrote: > > I've got news for you, there are quite a few weirdos on the list, but it > > adds spice! > > > Ah! I feel so at home! > > Thanks Wol! +1.  I've been told I was weird all my life.  I kinda ta

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: preparing /dev/sda1 for gentoo install x86 handbook

On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 1:16 PM Wol wrote: > I've got news for you, there are quite a few weirdos on the list, but it > adds spice! > Ah! I feel so at home! Thanks Wol!

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: preparing /dev/sda1 for gentoo install x86 handbook

Hello, This was not a "moderator" like answer, more an advice: Since I started to translate some pages in French for the Wiki of Gentoo, I've already asked why IRC and not somewhere else, as **the mailing-list** dedicated to it. I do not link the oblivion that is an IRC channel, to be honest.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: preparing /dev/sda1 for gentoo install x86 handbook

On 31/05/2024 16:26, Nuno Silva wrote: On 2024-05-31, Kévin GASPARD DE RENEFORT wrote: Is this not possible to go, as I said, on IRC or use the discussion page ? This is not really the place for this topic, IMHO. Why not? This is a Gentoo mailing list. Do you mean it should instead be brough

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: preparing /dev/sda1 for gentoo install x86 handbook

It went on irc. -- Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." Ed Howdershelt 1940. On Fri, 31 May 2024, Nuno Silva wrote: > On 2024-05-31, Kévin GASPARD DE RENEFORT wrote: > > > Is this not possible to go, as I sai

[gentoo-user] Re: preparing /dev/sda1 for gentoo install x86 handbook

On 2024-05-31, Kévin GASPARD DE RENEFORT wrote: > Is this not possible to go, as I said, on IRC or use the discussion page ? > > This is not really the place for this topic, IMHO. Why not? This is a Gentoo mailing list. Do you mean it should instead be brought up in the Gentoo Documentation Proje

[gentoo-user] Re: preparing /dev/sda1 for gentoo install x86 handbook

On 2024-05-31, Kévin GASPARD DE RENEFORT wrote: > > Le 31/05/2024 à 14:47, Jude DaShiell a écrit : >> What's missing in those instructions is: >> x >> 1 >> n >> /boot >> r >> that's for the fdisk instructions. > > such things are better to talk on the #gentoo-w...@libera.chat, or in > the discussio

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

On Tuesday, 28 May 2024 19:02:09 BST Dale wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2024-05-28, Dale wrote: > >> Grant Edwards wrote: > >>> On 2024-05-21, Dale wrote: > > Here's my udev rules file that defines my network interface names > > for the machine I'm on at the moment: > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-05-28, Dale wrote: >> Grant Edwards wrote: >>> On 2024-05-21, Dale wrote: >>> > Here's my udev rules file that defines my network interface names > for the machine I'm on at the moment: > > --/etc/udev/rules.d/70-my-persistent-net.rul

[gentoo-user] Re: PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

On 2024-05-28, Dale wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2024-05-21, Dale wrote: >> Here's my udev rules file that defines my network interface names for the machine I'm on at the moment: --/etc/udev/rules.d/70-my-persistent-net.rules---

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-05-21, Dale wrote: > >>> Here's my udev rules file that defines my network interface names >>> for the machine I'm on at the moment: >>> >>> --/etc/udev/rules.d/70-my-persistent-net.rules--- >>> SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", ATT

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Off Topic - UPnP servers

On Sat, May 25, 2024 at 3:14 PM Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2024-05-24, Mark Knecht wrote: > > > The unit showed up today and was a breeze to set up and get running > > at a basic level. The device requires an app on my phone. > > That sets of an alarm for me. > > > The app is available for Andro

[gentoo-user] Re: Off Topic - UPnP servers

On 2024-05-24, Mark Knecht wrote: > The unit showed up today and was a breeze to set up and get running > at a basic level. The device requires an app on my phone. That sets of an alarm for me. > The app is available for Android and Apple but not available for the > Amazon Fire tablet. Good lu

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Off Topic - UPnP servers

On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 1:25 PM Tsukasa Mcp_Reznor wrote: > > For what it's worth I've been using gerbera for years, it'll pass-through supported videos/codecs or you can set it up to transcode. Highly recommend it. On my roku TV's I just use the roku media player, it'll see UPnP servers just f

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Off Topic - UPnP servers

For what it's worth I've been using gerbera for years, it'll pass-through supported videos/codecs or you can set it up to transcode. Highly recommend it. On my roku TV's I just use the roku media player, it'll see UPnP servers just fine.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Off Topic - UPnP servers

On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 8:26 AM Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2024-05-24, Mark Knecht wrote: > > > I'm a Plex user for video and have also ripped my CD > > collection. Plex plays audio fine to TVs that have a Plex app but > > apparently sometimes doesn't work well (as of yet untested by me) to > >

[gentoo-user] Re: Off Topic - UPnP servers

On 2024-05-24, Mark Knecht wrote: > I'm a Plex user for video and have also ripped my CD > collection. Plex plays audio fine to TVs that have a Plex app but > apparently sometimes doesn't work well (as of yet untested by me) to > network streaming players. I never got the Plex app for Roku to wo

[gentoo-user] Re: PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

On 2024-05-21, Dale wrote: >> Here's my udev rules file that defines my network interface names >> for the machine I'm on at the moment: >> >> --/etc/udev/rules.d/70-my-persistent-net.rules--- >> SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", ATTR{address}=="2c:f0:5d:6f:10:a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-05-21, Dale wrote: > > >>> If you want consisent network device names (even when you change >>> hardware), you need to either >>> >>> 1. create udev rules that assign device names based on MAC addresses. >>> >>> 2. use a network configuration subsystem that assigns

[gentoo-user] Re: PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

On 2024-05-21, Dale wrote: >> If you want consisent network device names (even when you change >> hardware), you need to either >> >> 1. create udev rules that assign device names based on MAC addresses. >> >> 2. use a network configuration subsystem that assigns device names >> and config

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-05-21, Dale wrote: > >> So they both show up.  When I try to start the network, it says: >> >> ERROR: Interface enp3s0 does not exist. > Are you sure the network interface name hasn't changed? What does > "ifconfig -a" or "ip addr" show? > > After booting up, what d

[gentoo-user] Re: PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

On 2024-05-21, Dale wrote: > So they both show up.  When I try to start the network, it says: > > ERROR: Interface enp3s0 does not exist. Are you sure the network interface name hasn't changed? What does "ifconfig -a" or "ip addr" show? After booting up, what does "dmesg | grep enp" show? > E

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

On Tue, 21 May 2024 06:51:51 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > I usually stick e* > in my networkd config for the device name on single-NIC hosts. If you > have multiple NICs then I maybe there is a better way to go about it - > maybe there is a network manager that can use more data from the NIC > i

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

Dale: ... > ERROR: Interface enp3s0 does not exist. > Ensure that you have loaded the correct kernel module for your hardware. ... Do: cat /proc/net/dev Regards, /Karl Hammar

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 6:38 AM Dale wrote: > > So, I created a new link to slot 4. The network came up. So, > basically, it changed names as you suggested. I thought the purpose of > the enp* names was that they are consistent. Adding or removing cards > wouldn't change the names of cards, lik

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-05-20, Dale wrote: > > A 3.0 card is supposed to work fine in a 2.0 slot. > >> You, or anyone, have any idea why that card would kill my network?  >> I suspect the card itself is fine.  It did see the drive.  I just >> need the internet to work since it may be used i

[gentoo-user] Re: PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

On 2024-05-20, Dale wrote: A 3.0 card is supposed to work fine in a 2.0 slot. > You, or anyone, have any idea why that card would kill my network?  > I suspect the card itself is fine.  It did see the drive.  I just > need the internet to work since it may be used in a NAS rig. Is it causing th

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

Michael, On Thursday, 2024-05-16 17:46:04 +0100, you wrote: > ... > > The homepage returned by > > > >$ eix --verbose sys-boot/elilo > >* sys-boot/elilo > > Available versions: ~3.16-r5 > > ... > >$ > > > > hints that this package is no longer maintained ... :-( > > ... >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

On Thursday, 16 May 2024 17:41:20 BST Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Michael, > > On Thursday, 2024-05-16 09:26:39 +0100, you wrote: > > ... > > > > > > I liked lilo. And then it disappeared :-( > > > > > > ... > > > > > > Still available and still working on non-uefi setups: > > > https://packages

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

Michael, On Thursday, 2024-05-16 09:26:39 +0100, you wrote: > ... > > > I liked lilo. And then it disappeared :-( > > ... > > Still available and still working on non-uefi setups: > > https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/sys-boot/lilo > > > > ... > > There's also 'sys-boot/elilo' for EFI syste

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mtp cannot create directories on SD card on cellphone

On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 10:42:16AM +0100, Nuno Silva wrote > Did anything change? Any tablet software upgrade? Did the MTP tool on > the computer side change? Or perhaps the kernel, if it can influence > this FUSE interaction somehow? Just the usual updates to world. > At this point I'd consi

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mtp cannot create directories on SD card on cellphone

On Thursday, 16 May 2024 10:42:16 BST Nuno Silva wrote: > On 2024-05-16, Walter Dnes wrote: > > On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 03:06:50PM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote > > > >> Have you checked that the directory where you are attempting to > >> do this is one that your account owns? I generally have to su -

[gentoo-user] Re: mtp cannot create directories on SD card on cellphone

On 2024-05-16, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 03:06:50PM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote >> >> Have you checked that the directory where you are attempting to >> do this is one that your account owns? I generally have to su - to >> root, create a directory at the top level, change it so th

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

On 2024-05-16, Michael wrote: > On Thursday, 16 May 2024 01:10:32 BST k...@aspodata.se wrote: >> Wol: >> > On 15/05/2024 11:40, Peter Humphrey wrote: >> > > I think whoever named grub had delusions of grandeur. 🙂 Anyway, I >> > > never let it near my systems. >> > >> > I liked lilo. And then

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