SLUG jobs mailing list (was Re: Jobs postings?)

2000-11-07 Thread Suzanne Hillman
On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, Jeffry Smith wrote: [jpbs list] > Ack - I can't find it on the slug.org website, but I know I've been > subcribed to it. Could some of the SLUG folks confirm it exists, and > post info to the list on how to subscribe? Once I figured out where I *put* the info, I found my sub

Re: Debian flamewar

2000-11-07 Thread Jeffry Smith
"James R. Van Zandt" wrote: > > Benjamin Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > They don't include Netscape on *any* of the *three* CDs that come > >with the "Official" distribution. > > I found this on the third CD of my set from Linux Central: > /cdrom/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/web/mozi

Re: What do *YOU* think of the LUG meetings? (was: Is this us?)

2000-11-07 Thread James R. Van Zandt
Jeffry Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> suggests: >Debian - from the inside (i.e. someone from Debian talking about why >it was set up, how it runs, what problems they have, etc) Well, I have been a Debian developer for several years now, and know my way around it pretty well. There are several othe

Re: Debian flamewar

2000-11-07 Thread James R. Van Zandt
Benjamin Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > dpkg lacks quite a bit of the power of RPM when it comes to >querying installed packages. There is no way to select packages >based on a file owned, for example. vanzandt:/tmp$ dpkg --search /bin/fgrep grep: /bin/fgrep ...so the file /bin/fgrep

Re: Debian package names (was Re: Debian flamewar)

2000-11-07 Thread James R. Van Zandt
Suzanne Hillman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >How does one determine the name of the package one would need for a >specific file/command/binary/etc under Debian (without using the >search tool on their site)? The information is in the Contents file, e.g. /debian/dists/potato/Contents-i386.gz

Re: Debian flamewar

2000-11-07 Thread James R. Van Zandt
Benjamin Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > They don't include Netscape on *any* of the *three* CDs that come >with the "Official" distribution. I found this on the third CD of my set from Linux Central: /cdrom/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/web/mozilla_M14-2.deb - Ji

Re: Jobs postings?

2000-11-07 Thread Jeffry Smith
"Kenneth E. Lussier" wrote: > > Jeff, > > I was just approached by someone in the same position (starting a new > Linux company). He is looking for some people who know Linux inside and > out. However, this is the first time I have heard about this jobs list. > Can you send me more details of wh

Re: Jobs postings?

2000-11-07 Thread Kenneth E. Lussier
Jeff, I was just approached by someone in the same position (starting a new Linux company). He is looking for some people who know Linux inside and out. However, this is the first time I have heard about this jobs list. Can you send me more details of what it is and how it works so I can pass it

Re: DNS Woes

2000-11-07 Thread Kenneth E. Lussier
Farrell Woods wrote: > Some versions of pppd support this hack actually. Dunno about what > they ship in Mandrake... Last time I looked (roughly three or so > years ago) there was a compile-time switch that turned it on. Then > you'd put this into your /etc/ppp/options file: > > ms-dns Are yo

Re: DNS Woes

2000-11-07 Thread Farrell Woods
> I think they assumed we all use the "server > assigned dns" option in Windows. Some versions of pppd support this hack actually. Dunno about what they ship in Mandrake... Last time I looked (roughly three or so years ago) there was a compile-time switch that turned it on. Then you'd put this

Re: DNS Woes

2000-11-07 Thread Mjo
If I didn't see it, I wouldn't believe it. The problem turned out to be that my ISP coincidentally changed it's DNS addresses the same day Ryan and I both installed Mandrake, and they didn't bother to tell anyone. I think they assumed we all use the "server assigned dns" option in Windows. Th

Re: Debian comments

2000-11-07 Thread Paul Iadonisi
I'm not going to correct every gramatical error, but I figured I should at least fix this one: On Tue, Nov 07, 2000 at 04:58:27PM -0500, Paul Iadonisi wrote: [snip] > true and that the apt tools for rpm are as functional as the apt tools for > dpkg, can anyone argue that the pairing of apt a

Re: Debian comments

2000-11-07 Thread Paul Iadonisi
On Tue, Nov 07, 2000 at 10:59:59AM -0500, elawson wrote: [snip] > While many things seem to be around in rpm format, the completeness of the > deb packages is amazing. If you need a package, it is there and you do not > need to worry about missing a lib. For me, it is far better than RPM. [sn

Re: What do you want to hear about? Emacs tips and tricks

2000-11-07 Thread Bobnhlinux
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > I would also like to hear something on LINUX security (for Newbies). I > understand that we have some experts in this area who write to this list. If > > I am going to put my LINUX box on the net I don't want to be having to wipe > the drive and reinstall e

Linux/Unix developers or development team wanted (fwd)

2000-11-07 Thread Jeffry Smith
Given the feedback I've gotten, below is the job offer I talked about earlier. jeff -- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 09:21:13 -0500 From: John Redding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Linux/Unix developers or development team wanted Hi Jeff, I hav

Re: Debian package names (was Re: Debian flamewar)

2000-11-07 Thread Paul Lussier
In a message dated: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 11:11:10 PST "Karl J. Runge" said: >> How would you do this with RPM? > >Perhaps something like: > >% rpm -q --filesbypkg -p /usr/RPMS/*.rpm | grep /sbin/iptunnel >net-tools /sbin/iptunnel > >Of course this requires all the rpm's being availabl

Re: Debian package names (was Re: Debian flamewar)

2000-11-07 Thread Kevin D. Clark
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Of course this requires all the rpm's being available (e.g. local > disk, CD-ROM, or ftp:// URL), and so I can't imagine *any* > packaging system that couldn't provide this info. E.g. with the > help of a little for-loop and grep. Remember folks, this *is* Unix. ;-)

Re: Debian package names (was Re: Debian flamewar)

2000-11-07 Thread Karl J. Runge
On Tue, 07 Nov 2000, Paul Lussier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I think what Suzanne wants is a way to find out what package owns, say, > >"/usr/bin/foo", without having to have that package installed first. In other > >words, a "dpkg -S" command that works on uninstalled packages. > > Ho

Re: Debian package names (was Re: Debian flamewar)

2000-11-07 Thread Paul Lussier
In a message dated: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 13:08:48 EST Benjamin Scott said: > I think what Suzanne wants is a way to find out what package owns, say, >"/usr/bin/foo", without having to have that package installed first. In other >words, a "dpkg -S" command that works on uninstalled packages. How wo

Re: What do you want to hear about? Emacs tips and tricks

2000-11-07 Thread Derek Martin
Today, [EMAIL PROTECTED] gleaned this insight: > I am also interested in tips and tricks on Emas and/or VI. > > I would also like to hear something on LINUX security (for Newbies). I > understand that we have some experts in this area who write to this list. If > I am going to put my LINUX box

Re: EMACS as a LUG topic

2000-11-07 Thread Robert Anderson
I would not mind doing a talk (or part of one) on the subsections of EMACS that I know. I use the following parts of EMACS. rmail (With colorized mail headers) SQL interface to DB's (mysql, oracle, postgress) Colorized Source code editing in (Perl, C, C++, SQL) Using the GCC to compile and a

Samba T-Shirts.

2000-11-07 Thread Bill Freeman
Kurth Bemis writes: > I'm sure that you all know samba. ( the original samba, not TNG ) ... Well, I know some of the original samba, though I seem to have trouble leading the difference between a criss-cross and a shadow bota fogo.

Re: What do you want to hear about? (was: What do *YOU* think of theLUG meetings

2000-11-07 Thread Bill Freeman
Kevin Clark writes: > The biggest issue with customizing emacs is that doing so nearly > always requires knowledge of Lisp ... Depending on how new your emacs is you may be able to try: M-x customize I'm sure that it doesn't satisfy everyone (I haven't really us

Re: What do you want to hear about? (was: What do *YOU* think oftheLUG meetings

2000-11-07 Thread Derek Martin
Today, Jeffry Smith gleaned this insight: > LISP heavily uses recursion, which is why it snarfs up memory > (actually, you don't have to use recursion, but it is extremely well > suited to using it). GNOME uses GUILE, another variant (although I > haven't found the differences) as it's code t

Re: What do you want to hear about? (was: What do *YOU* think of the LUG meetings?)

2000-11-07 Thread Paul Lussier
In a message dated: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 21:40:57 EST Benjamin Scott said: > One topic I'd like to hear about (assuming this isn't one of the ones I >missed -- I always seem to be busy for the ones I really want to attend) is >mh/nmh/xmh/exmh/etc. I have been asked by several to deliver this talk,

Re: What do you want to hear about? emacs

2000-11-07 Thread Kevin D. Clark
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > for instance, being accustomed to DEL deleting the character under the > cursor (C-d in emacs), can I change that key-binding in .emacs?? And, > also important, will changing it break 10 other things. To solve this particular problem, you might want to consider u

Article: Good show prep for LUGs

2000-11-07 Thread Benjamin Scott
I thought this article might be relevant to the current discussion of LUG topics: http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=00/11/06/1717257 -- Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Net Technologies, Inc. Voice: (800)905-3049 x18 Fax: (978)499-7839 *

Re: What do you want to hear about? emacs

2000-11-07 Thread geoff allsup
"Kevin D. Clark" wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Benjamin Scott wrote: > > > > How about a presentation on customizing emacs? (Yes, I realize this is > > > rather like a presentation on "Applications for transistors", but hey...) > > > > > > > Hey, I'm interested in hearing about thi

Re: Debian package names (was Re: Debian flamewar)

2000-11-07 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, mike ledoux wrote: >> I have a question that's been bugging me for a while. How does one >> determine the name of the package one would need for a specific >> file/command/binary/etc under Debian (without using the search tool on >> their site)? > > Well, the 'easy' way is to f

Re: Jobs postings?

2000-11-07 Thread Paul Kleihauer
Jeffry Smith wrote: > Here's the deal. I've been contacted by someone who is looking to > start a new company, and is looking for Linux folks. Before I have > him post here, I wanted some feedback on whether people would want it. > I will direct him to the slug jobs list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) as

Re: Debian package names (was Re: Debian flamewar)

2000-11-07 Thread Jeffry Smith
On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, mike ledoux wrote: > On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, Suzanne Hillman wrote: > > >I have a question that's been bugging me for a while. How does one > >determine the name of the package one would need for a specific > >file/command/binary/etc under Debian (without using the search tool on

Re: Debian package names (was Re: Debian flamewar)

2000-11-07 Thread Jeffry Smith
On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, Suzanne Hillman wrote: > Subject: Debian package names (was Re: Debian flamewar) > > I have a question that's been bugging me for a while. How does one > determine the name of the package one would need for a specific > file/command/binary/etc under Debian (without using the

Debian comments

2000-11-07 Thread elawson
I do not claim to be a technically knowledgeable person, but I did manage to install Slackware back in 96 or so, have used RH since 4.0, have installed Corel, Caldera, SUSE, and even TurboLinux at one time or another. After a temporary bad experience with RH7 and wanting to put together a machine

Re: Debian flamewar

2000-11-07 Thread Paul Lussier
In a message dated: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 20:23:52 EST Benjamin Scott said: > I await your replies/insults/death threats with baited breath. ;-) You're gonna have to wait a while for mine, since that e-mail was so insanely long I got tired of reading about half way through :) How about you pick 1

Debian package names (was Re: Debian flamewar)

2000-11-07 Thread Suzanne Hillman
I have a question that's been bugging me for a while. How does one determine the name of the package one would need for a specific file/command/binary/etc under Debian (without using the search tool on their site)? I hate having figured out *what* I need, knowing that it must be available for Deb

Re: Wednesday Concord LUG - Linux Clusters

2000-11-07 Thread cdowns
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > People, > > The next meeting of the centraLUG, CNHLUG, is tomorrow, > Wednesday Nov 8 @ 7pm. The topic is: > high availability Linux clusters. > It is at a NEW PLACE. I will leave a note at the usual place, > but the new address is 6 Loudon Road, Concord. > This is clos

Re: Jobs postings?

2000-11-07 Thread Bobnhlinux
Jeff, Definitely point them to the jobs list, but many of the, ah, discussants, here have mentioned job announcements here are OK, iff short & not repeated. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Here's the deal. I've been contacted by someone who is looking to > start a new company, and is looking for L

Re: What do *YOU* think of the LUG meetings? (was: Is this us?)

2000-11-07 Thread Bobnhlinux
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Lussier) writes: > In a message dated: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 18:44:20 GMT someone > spoke thusly: > > >These are my impressions and in no way should be construed as 'flaming' > >or worse. The Keene group seems to be active and aiming for new users. > >The Nashua group seem

Re: What do you want to hear about? Emacs tips and tricks

2000-11-07 Thread VinceMch
I am also interested in tips and tricks on Emas and/or VI. I would also like to hear something on LINUX security (for Newbies). I understand that we have some experts in this area who write to this list. If I am going to put my LINUX box on the net I don't want to be having to wipe the drive a

Re: What do you want to hear about? (was: What do *YOU* think oftheLUG meetings

2000-11-07 Thread Jeffry Smith
On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, Kevin D. Clark wrote: > Lisp is a great language, but it does require some effort to learn. > Many people find Lisp to be "sufficiently weird" so that they have > trouble accomplishing their goals within the constructs of the > language. Usually people in this state complain

Jobs postings?

2000-11-07 Thread Jeffry Smith
Here's the deal. I've been contacted by someone who is looking to start a new company, and is looking for Linux folks. Before I have him post here, I wanted some feedback on whether people would want it. I will direct him to the slug jobs list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) as well jeff -

Re: What do you want to hear about? (was: What do *YOU* think of theLUG meetings

2000-11-07 Thread Kevin D. Clark
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Benjamin Scott wrote: > > How about a presentation on customizing emacs? (Yes, I realize this is > > rather like a presentation on "Applications for transistors", but hey...) > > > > Hey, I'm interested in hearing about this one...(customizing emacs, that > is, N

What do you want to hear about? Emacs tips and tricks

2000-11-07 Thread Rob Yelle
Here, Here, I agree. Anything you want to teach about emacs sounds good to me. Kind of a tips and tricks session from some GURUs for the common folk. I use emacs and would like to be able to change the default color of the text and background once VS every time I open a session. I also create alot

Re: DNS Woes

2000-11-07 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, Mjo wrote: > My current resolv.conf looks like this when the kpp dialer is running: > > domain brinet.net #kppp temp entry > nameserver 198.172.168.21 #kppp temp entry > nameserver 198.172.168.20 #kppp temp entry This might be a firewall, but any attempt

Re: What do you want to hear about? (was: What do *YOU* think of theLUG meetings?)

2000-11-07 Thread geoff allsup
Benjamin Scott wrote: > > > How about a presentation on customizing emacs? (Yes, I realize this is > rather like a presentation on "Applications for transistors", but hey...) > Hey, I'm interested in hearing about this one...(customizing emacs, that is, NOT 'applications for transistors' :

Samba T-Shirts.

2000-11-07 Thread Kurth Bemis
I'm sure that you all know samba. ( the original samba, not TNG ) Over the past few days i have been talking to one of the team members on the project, Christopher R. Hertel. He has extended this special offer to me and the LUGs that i belong. For every order that i send him he will include a

Re: DNS Woes

2000-11-07 Thread Kurth Bemis
At 02:42 AM 11/7/2000 -0500, Mjo wrote: in kppp there is a setting where you tell it what NS's to use...i think that its under setup then select the connection...then press edit > and its like the 3'rd tab over...or something like that..thats the way that i always did it and i've never had