Re: [Goanet] Dr. Sudha Prathikanti M.D. from UCSF ’ speaks on Ayurveda

2009-04-13 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Mon, 4/13/09, SHRIKANT BARVE shri8...@yahoo.com wrote: Ayurveda is a choice of how to live life. Calling it fake science just says the speaker does not understand science Ayurveda is a pre-scientific philosophy and system of rituals. While none of the rituals have been

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science

2009-04-13 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sun, 4/12/09, Fr. Ivo C. de Souza icso...@bsnl.in wrote: I do not know what is pseudo-religion and pseudo-science. It is very easy to recognize pseudoscience. Briefly, it refers to any unscientific claim that is falsely advertised as being scientific by its proponents or promoters.

Re: [Goanet] Ayurveda

2009-04-13 Thread Santosh Helekar
Hi Vivian, I have no doubt that there are quite a few people who can relate various unspecific anecdotes like yours. That is why the alternative medical, faith healing and New Age industry is big business. Anecdotes and testimonials make great sales pitches. Nobody really cares about how many

Re: [Goanet] Ayurveda

2009-04-14 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Tue, 4/14/09, J. Colaco jc cola...@gmail.com wrote: There can be no doubt that Ayurvedic medications or Guiness  might be/are useful. They might even be better than some or all of the allopathic drugs we know. But for physicians to ethically prescribe them to their patients, their

Re: [Goanet] Prediction for Another Tsunami

2009-04-14 Thread Santosh Helekar
The post below is an urban legend. Please see the following Snopes.com info debunking it: http://www.snopes.com/science/tsunami.asp Cheers, Santosh --- On Tue, 4/14/09, Santos Carmo carmosa...@hotmail.com wrote:        July 22nd 2009 another Tsunami - Please cascade...            

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science

2009-04-15 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Wed, 4/15/09, Fr. Ivo C. de Souza icso...@bsnl.in wrote: I have no my own pre-conceived religious beliefs Interesting statement! I wonder how much credulity one would have to be endowed with in order to believe that a religious man like Fr. Ivo does not have his own

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science

2009-04-16 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Wed, 4/15/09, J. Colaco jc cola...@gmail.com wrote: However, would you not agree that, the evidence must be rested and evaluated by scientific methods and not on the basis of mere anecdotal evidence. The problem is Fr. Ivo's idea of the scientific method is not the same as that

Re: [Goanet] Is the PM a liar

2009-04-16 Thread Santosh Helekar
Marshall Mendonza wrote: Do they also teach you to hallucinate in the daily shakhas? Why is this guy abusing Shrikant Barve who has not personally attacked him in any way? Private citizens have the right to severely criticize politicians and elected officials, as Mario, Samir and others are

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science

2009-04-16 Thread Santosh Helekar
It is clear that homeopathy and other alternative medical practices are faith-based belief systems. There are uncanny similarities and analogies between these medical belief systems, and new and old religious belief systems. They are: 1. Both have a large faith-based following. 2. Both make

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science

2009-04-17 Thread Santosh Helekar
To find out why the wild claims regarding homeopathy made by Fr. Ivo in the posts appended below are patently bogus, please read this article provided by a prominent British organization of scientists, promoting sense and science among lay people:

Re: [Goanet] 'Report based on SIT findings'

2009-04-17 Thread Santosh Helekar
Does this mean that the Citizens for Justice and Peace rebuttal circulated by Frederick, Augusto and Marshall was bogus? It appears that the political activists on the left are also lying to and defrauding the public. I hope this does not lead to mistrials and acquittals of the alleged

Re: [Goanet] Is the PM a liar?

2009-04-18 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Fri, 4/17/09, Marshall Mendonza mmendonz...@gmail.com wrote: 3. I trust you understand the difference between criticism and slander. Casting doubts on people's integrity and tarnishing their reputation comes cheap with certain persons on this forum. Is this guy talking about

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science

2009-04-18 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Fri, 4/17/09, Fr. Ivo C. de Souza icso...@bsnl.in wrote: As a physician, I shall do whatever I can in my system (allopathic or homoepathic) and specialization. The patient will come to me if s/he knows my value in my system and specialization. The above statement is puzzling, and I am

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science

2009-04-19 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Fri, 4/17/09, Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com wrote: Since you-both have asked for my clarification, I am stepping into this cross-current. Dear Gilbert, I had asked you to tell me why you think that even the religion that Fr. Ivo was preaching in these kinds of threads was

Re: [Goanet] Is the PM a liar?

2009-04-19 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sat, 4/18/09, Marshall Mendonza mmendonz...@gmail.com wrote: And then we have Shrikant Barve who echoes the sangh parivar line of calling him a liar without adducing any evidence whatsoever in support. And Santosh calls it criticism!!! Hey Bhagwan!!! The guy has no shame. He

Re: [Goanet] Is the PM a liar?

2009-04-19 Thread Santosh Helekar
Marshall is now trying to deflect attention from the fact that his blatant abuse and slander of a private citizen was exposed once again on Goanet. That is why he has now turned on me. Very predictable! Please note the insinuation of two other Hindu names, Barad and someone called Rajiv Desai,

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science (part 2)

2009-04-19 Thread Santosh Helekar
I cannot believe what Gilbert has written in the post appended below. He has not only misled Goanetters on the subject of placebos, and how and why they are used in drawing inferences about the effectiveness of treatments, but he has made questionable statements on the treatment of pneumonia -

Re: [Goanet] RELIGION AND SCIENCE

2009-04-19 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sun, 4/19/09, MD mmdme...@gmail.com wrote: Science is no match for religioud belief. Dear Maurice, You are right only about the fact that science is no match for religious belief, and that Fr. Ivo writes in good faith. I suspect, so do you and Gilbert. But good faith is not good

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science

2009-04-20 Thread Santosh Helekar
Hi Gilbert, I noticed that you avoided answering my questions, asking me an unrelated question, instead, to obfuscate matters. Moreover, you are asking me to buy your own personal revisionist definition of scientific inquiry, which has no connection with the real scientific world, and

[Goanet] The pseudoscience of integration

2009-04-20 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Mon, 4/20/09, Fr. Ivo C. de Souza icso...@bsnl.in wrote: Religion is not Science and Science is not Religion. But there is no conflict between Science and Religion. There is only integration. Science and religion have absolutely nothing in common. One cannot and should not integrate

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science

2009-04-20 Thread Santosh Helekar
I point out some more puzzling and pseudoscientific statements in Fr. Ivo's latest post. --- On Mon, 4/20/09, Fr. Ivo C. de Souza icso...@bsnl.in wrote: I am quite acquainted with conventional medicine and homeopathy, therefore I am speaking from the viewpoint of both. As a matter of fact,

Re: [Goanet] Is the PM a liar?

2009-04-21 Thread Santosh Helekar
Here are answers to Eddie's questions. I hope he answers mine in return. --- On Tue, 4/21/09, Edward Verdes eddiever...@hotmail.com wrote: If Shrikant was mistaken why didnt you point out to him in the begining? Because I do not consider it a big deal if anybody criticizes a politician or a

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science (part 2)

2009-04-21 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Mon, 4/20/09, Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com wrote: I appreciate Santosh telling us he has not read any book on theology. Now we will have to check about other topics he writes on. Gilbert, I said I did not STUDY (not just read) any book on theology, which is what you asked

Re: [Goanet] Is the PM a liar?

2009-04-21 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Tue, 4/21/09, Marshall Mendonza mmendonz...@gmail.com wrote: Then why do you habitually keep doing it doc? Why do you not practice what you preach? The above insinuation is a blatant falsehood. I have many faults, but this is not one of them. I have never gratuitously publicly

Re: [Goanet] Chicken - soup

2009-04-21 Thread Santosh Helekar
Gilbert is mistaken. I would advise any person with pneumonia, irrespective of his age, to consult a competent physician who practices modern evidence-based scientific medicine. I would never prescribe him/her chicken soup alone. I know that all patients with bacterial pneumonia, irrespective

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science

2009-04-22 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Tue, 4/21/09, Fr. Ivo C. de Souza icso...@bsnl.in wrote: ***Dr.Santosh is asking me to read books on Science when discussing about the relationship between Science and Theology. I am asking Fr. Ivo to do nothing of this sort. He is free to read whatever he wants. I am merely

Re: [Goanet] RELIGION AND SCIENCE

2009-04-22 Thread Santosh Helekar
I congratulate Mario on a lucid exposition of his faith-based beliefs, as well as a clear understanding of an absolute separation between science and religion, and of the scope and limits of both. I would recommend this type of clarity of thought to everybody. Cheers, Santosh --- On Wed,

[Goanet] Funny Quotes from Goanet

2009-04-23 Thread Santosh Helekar
As part of the Chimbel Presidential Library Project Ex-President Pandurang has instructed me to compile a volume containing quotes from Goanet that impress him and add to his wisdom. The following two quotes are the first entries into this volume: Homeopaths do not have time to discuss now

Re: [Goanet] PM Manmohan Singh

2009-04-23 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Thu, 4/23/09, J. Colaco jc cola...@gmail.com wrote: Manmohan Singh is indeed a dignified man - as is Atal Behari Vajpayee. Atal Behari Vajpayee has been reported to have told a big lie. Please see: http://www.geocities.com/tamiltribune/04/0301.html The title of the story is

Re: [Goanet] PM Manmohan Singh

2009-04-24 Thread Santosh Helekar
(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) Goa Heritage Action Group releases PARMAL, the journal of the GHAG. In this issue: * Ethnography of Goa, Daman and Diu * A Play For Goans And Outsiders * Two Abbe Farias -- One An Imposter * Keeping

Re: [Goanet] RELIGION, SCIENCE AND MARIO??????

2009-04-25 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sat, 4/25/09, jane gillian rodrigues janerodrig...@rediffmail.com wrote: I'm sure, we are all looking forward to some more replies from you on Religion and Science, which will make all of us Goanetters wonder WHY DOES GOD KEEP MARIO ALIVE?. No matter what Mario does on Goanet it

Re: [Goanet] The Gujarat Riots: The Truth, nothing but the Truth, and the Spiced Truth

2009-04-26 Thread Santosh Helekar
Jose, As I have been saying all along no journalist or activist can be trusted, whether in the mainstream or on the fringes. The lure of sensationalism and the zeal to promote one's own point of view trump ethics and honesty. Here, the Times of India breaks a story that activists tampered with

Re: [Goanet] RELIGION, SCIENCE AND MARIO??????

2009-04-26 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sun, 4/26/09, J. Colaco jc cola...@gmail.com wrote: He gave me additional reason to believe in my beliefs until he places #3 wherein he then goes on to say that we (should) we not take our beliefs too seriously. Hummh! Taking beliefs too seriously, in my opinion, is succumbing to

Re: [Goanet] The Gujarat Riots: The Truth, nothing but the Truth, and the Spiced Truth

2009-04-26 Thread Santosh Helekar
It is not clear why Frederick thinks that this time it is different. Clearly, the Hindustan Times has contradicted what the Times of India has claimed. So either the former is deceiving the public or the latter. Here is what the Hindustan Times claimed: QUOTE The SIT sources said the alleged

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science

2009-04-26 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sun, 4/26/09, Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com wrote: Can Santosh, support his statement (below) about my claim that their religion is scientific.? Please just post my quote and the context the statement was made. Here is the quote and a link to the context: So IMO both

Re: [Goanet] RELIGION AND SCIENCE

2009-04-28 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Tue, 4/28/09, J. Colaco jc cola...@gmail.com wrote: I had asked Santoshbab for evidence that 'Prayer does not work'. He referred me to two papers which I have not yet reviewed. The papers to which I referred were reviews and meta-analyses of all intercessory prayer studies done

Re: [Goanet] Chicken - soup

2009-04-28 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Mon, 4/27/09, Fr. Ivo C. de Souza icso...@bsnl.in wrote: In medical science there is not yet a cure for cancer, as you know. This is a myth that has been propagated by lay people, journalists and old-fashioned out-of-touch doctors who have not bothered to keep track of how modern

[Goanet] Hallucinations

2009-04-29 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Tue, 4/28/09, Fr. Ivo C. de Souza icso...@bsnl.in wrote: Science cannot prove it, but the experiment shows that the experience is mediated by a reality outside the brain. Otherwise, it would be 'hallucination'... The above assertion betrays a lack of understanding of brain

[Goanet] Funny Quotes from Goanet

2009-04-29 Thread Santosh Helekar
This week ex-President Pandurang has had an unprecedented expansion of his his mind by reading the following quotes of wisdom: But remember, Science requires also faith. Therefore, I am not mixing science with faith Fr. Ivo, showing how to properly mix science with faith Your reply

Re: [Goanet] Parabéns Cecil - Muitas felicidades

2009-04-30 Thread Santosh Helekar
Here are suggestions for use of proper Konknni words in the post below: articalam - lekh, likhaan improve kor - sudhar, sudharop kor celebrationam - festam, sazre korni newspaper - khobor patra famil-ic - kutumbak Cheers, Santosh --- On Thu, 4/30/09, augusto pinto pinto...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science, Gilbert's response.

2009-04-30 Thread Santosh Helekar
Nascy Caldeira wrote: I rest my case! Nascy has tried to rest his case many times on Goanet. But he has not been successful. His case is a very serious one. It cannot be easily rested. Perhaps, an Indian vegetarian diet might help. Gilbert's chicken soup will only make it a more restless

Re: [Goanet] Chicken - soup

2009-05-01 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Wed, 4/29/09, Fr. Ivo C. de Souza icso...@bsnl.in wrote: Hodgkin's disease is incurable. I have no idea why this type of dangerous false information regarding public health and safety is being spread in this forum. How far will this parade of ignorance be taken to mislead

Re: [Goanet] cancer free for the last 25 years

2009-05-02 Thread Santosh Helekar
Dear Ms. Rodrigues, Thanks for sharing this with us. It is important to provide accurate information about the success of modern medical treatment of cancer, and explode dangerous myths circulated by various vested interests, and due to ignorance about advances in medicine. Cheers, Santosh

Re: [Goanet] Neuroscience, God and Soul

2009-05-03 Thread Santosh Helekar
Fr. Ivo C. de Souza quoted a popular pseudo-science book as follows: Although one can never prove it from one side only, the data are consistent with an experience in which the experiencers contact a spiritual reality OUTSIDE OF THEIR OWN MINDS (p.278). This is precisely the problem. Please

Re: [Goanet] Cancer free for the last 25 years

2009-05-03 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sun, 5/3/09, Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com wrote: In medicine we call that a snake oil salesman which is euphemism for homeopathy. I thought Gilbert was agreeing with Fr. Ivo earlier in his claim that homeopathy was a science and that anecdotal evidence was scientific. He

Re: [Goanet] OFFTOPIC: Science education... and useful contacts (Source: Learning Curve, Azim Premji Foundation)

2009-05-04 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Mon, 5/4/09, Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक न fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote: Apologies for the offtopic post, but might be of interest to educators, and those interested in science education in India. FN Why is this an offtopic post? Science education is not important to Goa

Re: [Goanet] Chicken - soup. Correct / Incorrect / Over-the Top.

2009-05-04 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sun, 5/3/09, Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com wrote: SH: The following cancers are completely curable even in advanced stage ... Incorrect. Perhaps, Gilbert is not aware of the latest advances in cancer cures in cutting edge research centers such as the Fred Hutchinson Cancer

Re: [Goanet] Chicken - soup. Correct / Incorrect / Over-the Top.

2009-05-04 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sun, 5/3/09, Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com wrote: SH: The following cancers are completely curable even in advanced stage ... Incorrect. Perhaps, Gilbert is not aware of the latest advances in cancer cures in cutting edge research centers such as the Fred Hutchinson Cancer

Re: [Goanet] Career in Ayurveda!

2009-05-04 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sun, 5/3/09, SHRIKANT BARVE shri8...@yahoo.com wrote: Well the options for Ayurvedic graduates, i.e., after BAMS .can be as follows- To do Ayurvedic practice/ mix practice ( Ayurved allopathy ) as a G.P. ( General practitioner I have no idea how they are ethically and

Re: [Goanet] Career in Ayurveda!

2009-05-05 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Tue, 5/5/09, Gabriel de Figueiredo gdefigueir...@yahoo.com.au wrote: You mean like registered GPs practicing acupuncture and Chinese herbals? If I am not mistaken, we have some of those here in Melbourne ... I would be surprised if a licensed conventional physician is ethically

Re: [Goanet] Cancer free for the last 25 years

2009-05-06 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Mon, 5/4/09, Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com wrote: Santosh, keep thinking and understand what others write; rather than writing and writing. Two funny characteristics about Gilbert are nicely illustrated in this insulting post of his. They are: 1. There is no other

Re: [Goanet] Career in Ayurveda!

2009-05-06 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Tue, 5/5/09, Gabriel de Figueiredo gdefigueir...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Since you've asked, here some clips: Note: As you probably know, Monash University is one of the leading universities in Australia which imparts study of medicine... Two interesting things in these clips. First,

Re: [Goanet] Career in Ayurveda!

2009-05-06 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Wed, 5/6/09, Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com wrote: Some practice only acupuncture and they have a good practice. Once again, this suggest that the treatment works; and patients pass the word and the reputation of these doctors to their friends and acquaintances. Having a

Re: [Goanet] Cancer free for the last 25 years

2009-05-08 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Thu, 5/7/09, Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com wrote: I hope this post is preserved in the President Pandurang library; so that his posterity will appreciate the reputation of the scientist in their family tree. I thank Gilbert for reminding me to bring to the esteemed

Re: [Goanet] Christian strongly condemns interference by the Church in the Lok Sabha election

2009-05-09 Thread Santosh Helekar
The following contrasting views are interesting. Are Goa Suraj and Floriano also propped up by the Sangh Parivar? Cheers, Santosh --- On Fri, 5/8/09, Marshall Mendonza mmendonz...@gmail.com wrote: Barad, you need not get into a hop. R L Francis is an old disgruntled hand. He has no

Re: [Goanet] Christian strongly condemns interference by the Church in the Lok Sabha election

2009-05-10 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sat, 5/9/09, Dr. U. G. Barad dr.udayba...@gmail.com wrote: However, I think that Advani had no business to send the letter at all. The spiritual leaders can make their own comments, as they deem fit. Just as social leaders do.  But to form a consultative mechanism is fraught with

[Goanet] Shotgun Attacks

2009-05-11 Thread Santosh Helekar
Augusto is right on regarding this comment on Goanet: QUOTE I find Cecil's bluntness in naming naming names far more refreshing than your shot-gun style spraying of pellets indiscriminately on fellow writers who are promoting sale of houses in moira, aldonato non-goans I DO NOT KNOW WHOM

Re: [Goanet] Shotgun Attack

2009-05-12 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Mon, 5/11/09, Marshall Mendonza mmendonz...@gmail.com wrote: Response: Et Tu Brute!!! Here is another one, much more generalized: Shantidoot was threatened and intimidated as a few of his limmericks were not well taken or appreciated. It has become another trait of goans to

Re: [Goanet] OF CONDOMS AND CONUNDRUMS

2009-05-16 Thread Santosh Helekar
Averthanus L. D'Souza wrote: OF CONDOMS AND CONUNDRUMS. Averthanus L. D'Souza. Here are statements in the above article that are totally absurd, illogical and/or false: Either there IS a God or there is no God. Richard Dawkins should make up his mind which. Saying that there is probably no

Re: [Goanet] HIV Club’ spreading AIDS in Goa

2009-05-17 Thread Santosh Helekar
This sounds like an urban legend to me. It seems like a variation of the following myth on Snopes.com: http://www.snopes.com/horrors/madmen/aidsmary.asp It is disturbing to see it being reported in Times of India and Goan newspapers without independent verification of whether it is true.

Re: [Goanet] Did British Government put a break at progress of Ayurveda?

2009-05-18 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sun, 5/17/09, SHRIKANT BARVE shri8...@yahoo.com wrote: Did British Government put a break at progress of Ayurveda? What is meant by progress as far as ayurveda is concerned? What method is used to make progress? Shrikant, please ask the practitioners attending your symposium these

Re: [Goanet] Invitation - We Love Ayurveda

2009-05-20 Thread Santosh Helekar
Shrikant, Please post the transcripts in this forum. I would want to be able to provide a critical assessment of your love from a scientific standpoint, hopefully to persuade others to not let their love cloud their reason and judgment. Cheers, Santosh --- On Wed, 5/20/09, SHRIKANT BARVE

Re: [Goanet] Media ethics and the SIT report on Gujarat

2009-05-20 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Tue, 5/19/09, Marshall Mendonza mmendonz...@gmail.com quoted: The fact that the court has now asked the SIT to probe serious charges against Mr. Modi and more than 60 influential Sangh Parivar leaders and state officials and given the Team a supervisory role in the riot case

Re: [Goanet] Science links religion and health

2009-05-20 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Tue, 5/19/09, Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com wrote: Goanet atheists have pounded us into submission with their claim that church-going was a wasted activity, generally undertaken by those with no cognitive function. :=)) Is Gilbert telling the truth here, or is he making

Re: [Goanet] Invitation - We Love Ayurveda

2009-05-20 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Wed, 5/20/09, Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक न fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote: I read the sub-text of this debate (though clothed in a 'scientific' language) as an attempt to discredit all non-allopathic forms of medicine. Quite predictably, Frederick is fabricating his own

Re: [Goanet] Science links religion and health

2009-05-23 Thread Santosh Helekar
When will Gilbert understand that some of us respond to his posts only when he makes derogatory, factually erroneous or silly comments in them, especially gratuitous demeaning comments directed against other Goanetters? I have explained this to him on several occasions, as has Mario lately.

Re: [Goanet] Invitation - We Love Ayurveda

2009-05-25 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sun, 5/24/09, Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com wrote: There is more and more data being developed by evidence-based-medicine on the benefits of Ayurveda; and the important question of why and how they work.   Here is a lead to three agents.  Except for licorice, none of the

Re: [Goanet] Suvarnaprashana for children on May 28 at Shiroda Goa

2009-05-27 Thread Santosh Helekar
This looks like a suspicious practice. It combines the discredited delusion of astrology with a potentially dangerous untested ritual of chronically administering small quantities of the heavy metal gold in very young children. Chronic ingestion of gold compounds in children have serious toxic

Re: [Goanet] Suvarnaprashana for children on May 28 at Shiroda Goa

2009-05-28 Thread Santosh Helekar
...@yahoo.com wrote: Alfred t avares, Dr. Santosh Helekar, Best would be some one comes forward and research on these ½ lakh Goan children who have benefited by the same this service which is absolutely free. Records of these children will be available at Gomantak Ayurveda Mahavidyalaya

Re: [Goanet] Suvarnaprashana for children on May 28 at Shiroda Goa

2009-05-28 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Wed, 5/27/09, SHRIKANT BARVE shri8...@yahoo.com wrote: Modern science has practice of changing its stand after every decade. The changes are made based on evidence. That is what progress is all about. There is continuous improvement with advancement of knowledge. Science does not

Re: [Goanet] Suvarnaprashana for children on May 28 at Shiroda Goa

2009-05-28 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Thu, 5/28/09, SHRIKANT BARVE shri8...@yahoo.com wrote: Dr. Santosh Helekar, This is exectly the difference, I believe, you dont beleive. My concern is that this belief is a blind belief in something just because it is ancient or Indian or eastern or sacred. I am alarmed

Re: [Goanet] Invitation - We Love Ayurveda

2009-05-29 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Thu, 5/28/09, Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com wrote: If scientific (expensive) medicines can use the placebo effect as the studies show, why would not the same pathways apply to / be used by Ayurveda, homeopathy, alternative medicines, nutraceuticals, etc.? I have no idea

Re: [Goanet] Why english media silent on this Mass convertion movement

2009-05-30 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sat, 5/30/09, shri8...@yahoo.com shri8...@yahoo.com wrote: People demand Anti-conversion bill in Goa in a meeting. A law against conversion would be unconstitutional in India. Conversions cannot and should not be banned. In a secular democracy people have a right to change their

Re: [Goanet] Ayurvedic Medicines Heavy metal issue

2009-05-30 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Fri, 5/29/09, SHRIKANT BARVE shri8...@yahoo.com wrote: Ayurvedic Medicines Heavy metal issue Prof.K.R.Kohli M.D(Ay), Ph.D Director-Ayurveda Research Dabur Research Foundation We have a history of uninterrupted practice of these systems of medicine

Re: [Goanet] Invitation - We Love Ayurveda

2009-05-31 Thread Santosh Helekar
I point out below statements and insinuations that have no basis in fact: --- On Sun, 5/31/09, Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com wrote: Some refuse to accept the effect of 'mind over body' which the author, a neuro-scientist is presenting.   The above statement is entirely false. None

Re: [Goanet] Dr. Ahamed Ajmeer, an Ayurvedic Doctor receives death threats from multi nationals

2009-05-31 Thread Santosh Helekar
This is hilarious. It would be interesting to know how many Goanetters believe the following news item, and how many journalists on Goanet would publish such a claim in their newspaper in the manner that it has been published. Cheers, Santosh --- On Sun, 5/31/09, SHRIKANT BARVE

Re: [Goanet] Dr. Ahamed Ajmeer, an Ayurvedic Doctor receives death threats from multi nationals

2009-06-02 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Mon, 6/1/09, J. Colaco jc cola...@gmail.com wrote: Now - all this doctor needs to do is to provide documentation from a recognised hospital where PVS was diagnosed, and present this patient for the public to see for themselves. The man appears to be making up stories either in

Re: [Goanet] Re-Sad News

2011-06-04 Thread Santosh Helekar
What I find amusing is that Fernandes believes that he is pulling a fast one on us by doing something that a teenager in Goa can do much better. The lack of insight on his part about the simple obvious fact that nobody in Goa or anywhere else today would be impressed by his petty exploits, or

Re: [Goanet] Are Christian fears about Communalism in Goa irrational?

2011-06-04 Thread Santosh Helekar
the posts of Goans like Mr. Santosh Helekar implying, to use their words, 'that the concerns about religious discrimination and persecution of minoirties are primarily those of loud mouther rarefied political fringe, over-represented on Goanet and in the Goan media are primarily those of a loud

[Goanet] A Bundh is a Blot on Democracy

2011-06-05 Thread Santosh Helekar
In a free democracy people have the right to voice their views on any political issue. They have a right to assemble in public and peacefully protest against policies and laws that they find objectionable. They can petition their government to repeal those public actions, and persuade others to

Re: [Goanet] Cure for Cancer?

2011-06-06 Thread Santosh Helekar
The list of curable cancers that I had posted here was provided by one of the world's most reputed cancer hospitals. That list is a statement of objective fact that is accepted by all oncologists and cancer researchers who are familiar with today's standard of care in scientific medicine and

[Goanet] Konkani shikleat tankam - by Madhvi and Samir

2011-06-09 Thread Santosh Helekar
Konkani shikleat tankam. Goeantlea palkancho ek pongodd mullavea English shikshonnapasot Sorkaralagim onudan magta. Ek porki bhas mannkuleancha talleant chondpa sarki dusri onorthachi gozal na. English bhashechem mhotv konn nhoikarina ani amchea bhurgeank

Re: [Goanet] Just how bad is aspartame? | Grist

2011-06-12 Thread Santosh Helekar
The web article provided below, like many other articles from the same source, contains bogus information. Please do not be misled by it. Cheers, Santosh --- On Fri, 6/10/11, Con Menezes cmene...@tpg.com.au wrote:

[Goanet] Written Konknni

2011-06-12 Thread Santosh Helekar
We know that there are people who want to promote only the Devanagri script for Konknni. We also know that there are people who want to promote both Devanagri and Roman scripts. There are still others like me who want Konknni to be written in all five scripts used by its speakers, namely

Re: [Goanet] Rebuttal of bogus proof

2011-06-13 Thread Santosh Helekar
2189 diet coke cans everyday throughout his life, with his mother doing the same when she was pregnant with him in her womb. That amounts to drinking one can of diet coke every 39 seconds 24 hours a day from the time one was a fetus till one's death. UNQUOTE Santosh Helekar In another

[Goanet] Problem with editing at Herald

2011-06-16 Thread Santosh Helekar
I have often felt that editing in Goan English dailies is atrocious. Properly spelled words in submitted OpED manuscripts are misspelled in the final print, and the English language is butchered mercilessly from time to time. Mind you, this is not a case of Indian English or Goan English. I

Re: [Goanet] There cannot be another Goan Revolution

2011-06-18 Thread Santosh Helekar
It appears that in the following various Indian communities such as Rajputs, Lingayats, other Hindus and Muslims are being portrayed negatively. Ramani, a Goan name is also dragged into the mix. Among the communities that are quite predictably left out are non-Indians such as Russians. Cheers,

Re: [Goanet] There cannot be another Goan Revolution

2011-06-19 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sat, 6/18/11, SOTER so...@bsnl.in wrote: Comment: Was the Ramani then accused in the Jessica Lal murder in new Delhi a Goan by any chance? Can Santosh Helekar deny the conspiracy against the Goan people by migrants whom he decides to divide into caste and religion? If Communists can

Re: [Goanet] There cannot be another Goan Revolution

2011-06-19 Thread Santosh Helekar
Soterbab, You have asked the first question for the first time in this thread. I have already answered the second question. Here are the answers: 1. For me Ramani is as much a Goan name as D'Souza or Khan or Naik. The fact that all Ramanis, D'Souzas, Khans and Naiks are not Goans is immaterial

Re: [Goanet] There cannot be another Goan Revolution

2011-06-19 Thread Santosh Helekar
Soterbab appears to be creating his own exclusive reality here, one that no other person who objectively reads my posts in this thread would be able to recognize. I merely pointed out that Ramani was a Goan name that was dragged into the mix. I never used the word exclusively. Here is that

Re: [Goanet] Indian English

2011-06-20 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Mon, 6/20/11, Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão drferdina...@hotmail.com wrote: COMMENTS : There cannot be dialect and styles of the English language. There can be only corrupted or rather spurious versions by different people or nations with inclusions of words from  local languages.

Re: [Goanet] The MOI debate

2011-06-20 Thread Santosh Helekar
I would like to add an important point to what Sandeep has nicely laid out below. It is important to recognize that this debate, like all other political debates, has been hijacked by activists and partisans who resort to unproductive extremist rhetoric and hyperbole. Those who call others

Re: [Goanet] Indian English

2011-06-21 Thread Santosh Helekar
It is well known among linguists that the grammar of a language in its spoken form varies with its dialect. Here is a general description of grammatical variations in the dialects of English in the United Kingdom provided by the British Library:

[Goanet] Bookstores and libraries

2011-06-22 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Tue, 6/21/11, Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão drferdina...@hotmail.com wrote: And Santosh has produced references from websites of Amazon.com in support of his contention; sites that he would shun as commercial sites when others refer. At the risk of insulting the intelligence of

Re: [Goanet] The MoI debate

2011-06-30 Thread Santosh Helekar
I have some questions on the very unclear material appended below: 1. Who are the minorities in Goa? What is the percentage of the Goan population below which a group needs to fall to qualify as a minority? 2. Who are the we referred to below? Are they politicians, political activists or

Re: [Goanet] The MoI debate

2011-07-01 Thread Santosh Helekar
are and why, who the snakes are and why, and who in Goa or Goanet has conspired against humanity, and/or perpetrated the genocide against more than 3000 Muslims in Gujarat, alongside Modi and Vajpayee. Cheers, Santosh --- On Fri, 7/1/11, SOTER so...@bsnl.in wrote: Santosh Helekar has suddenly

Re: [Goanet] A secular Governance?

2011-07-02 Thread Santosh Helekar
Boorish religious chauvinism, sectarianism and communalism, combined with crackpot nascimentality, have always existed in Goa in equal measure among the Hindus and the Catholics for as long as I can remember. These traits are especially prominent among politicians and political activists, a

[Goanet] The Political Economy of Hatred

2011-07-02 Thread Santosh Helekar
Edward Glaeser, a famous Harvard economist wrote the following scholarly paper called The Political Economy of Hatred, several years ago to explain why politicians and political activists hate and/or promote hatred against people of other religions, cultures and races:

Re: [Goanet] Bring back the British!

2011-07-03 Thread Santosh Helekar
Sane and rational Goanetters would have learned to ignore crackpot nascimental nonsense by now. But let me point out that as far as both female infanticide and female foeticide are concerned, China is worse than India. The immoral policies of its communist government have caused the male to

Re: [Goanet] A secular Governance?

2011-07-03 Thread Santosh Helekar
In all fairness, Jose should have also asked Floriano for evidence to support the following blood examination conducted by him: QUOTE Communalism was in the blood of Goan Hindus, for I have witnessed it in the raw. I could write a whole book on the subject. The only factor that kept it subdued

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