Re: [Hampshire] Domain type authentication using Linux as "domain" server

2012-04-12 Thread Bryn Jones
On 10/04/12 10:43, Stuart Sears wrote: On Mon, 9 Apr 2012 12:37:41 +0100, Ally Biggs wrote: Idiots guide to LDAP, Samba and Getting your windows boxes to behave with Linux. Does such a thing exist? I the problem with documentation I have read I'm not being funny but usually it's over complicated

Re: [Hampshire] Domain type authentication using Linux as "domain" server

2012-04-10 Thread Stuart Sears
On Mon, 9 Apr 2012 12:37:41 +0100, Ally Biggs wrote: Idiots guide to LDAP, Samba and Getting your windows boxes to behave with Linux. Does such a thing exist? I the problem with documentation I have read I'm not being funny but usually it's over complicated jargon, doesn't get to the point it's u

Re: [Hampshire] Domain type authentication using Linux as "domain" server

2012-04-09 Thread Ally Biggs
Idiots guide to LDAP, Samba and Getting your windows boxes to behave with Linux. Does such a thing exist? I the problem with documentation I have read I'm not being funny but usually it's over complicated jargon, doesn't get to the point it's usually outdated, and samba ends up broken with each

Re: [Hampshire] Domain type authentication using Linux as 'domain' server

2012-04-09 Thread Bryn Jones
As is ClearOS and a bunch of other commercial/semi-commercial options. Many thanks to everyone who contributed pointers and advice :) invaluable!!! On 08/04/12 02:47, Ally Biggs wrote: sme server is free and worth a look at if you want a easy way to setup a dc using Linux then you can't go wro

Re: [Hampshire] Domain type authentication using Linux as "domain" server

2012-04-09 Thread Jan Henkins
Hello Ally, This is indeed an area you can help with. Look around for a project, and when you find one to your liking get in touch with them and find out where you can help out. As you pointed out, docs are always an issue. No viable project will ignore offers for help. It could be worth you

Re: [Hampshire] Domain type authentication using Linux as "domain" server

2012-04-09 Thread Keith Edmunds
On Mon, 9 Apr 2012 01:52:40 +0100, bluechr...@hotmail.co.uk said: > someone really needs to write a plain English guide on how to deploy and > integrate Linux in a windows environment. The documentation needs to be > clear, concise, updated and work on numerous popular Linux distros such > as Debi

Re: [Hampshire] Domain type authentication using Linux as "domain" server

2012-04-08 Thread Bryn Jones
There are quite a few good sites on this subject. I'm not guru but I get by in Linux (occasionally I get confused and write Nortel DMS commands in the terminal but that's just standard insanity). I have a good simple backout/backin plan if it blew up!. I'm not overly concerned by the difficult

Re: [Hampshire] Domain type authentication using Linux as "domain" server

2012-04-08 Thread Ally Biggs
Gotta give Microsoft kudos where it's due, setting up active directory, group policies and domain functionality is a walk in the park compared to Linux. someone really needs to write a plain English guide on how to deploy and integrate Linux in a windows environment. The documentation needs to b

Re: [Hampshire] Domain type authentication using Linux as "domain" server

2012-04-08 Thread Bryn Jones
Oh yeah its all theory but things like SME server says it's not only doable but comes in a box at times. It also has to be 100% supportable by me ar anyone with enough knowledge. Walking into a network to troubleshoot someones insane one off implementation of something really mad and obscure h

Re: [Hampshire] Domain type authentication using Linux as "domain" server

2012-04-08 Thread Ian Grody
With all due respect, LDAP is nice and all and is quite versatile and useful etc etc etc. However, as much I am a hardcore BSD/Linux user, m$ active directory excretes all over LDAP many, many fold, as hard as it is for me to admit this. I wont go into all the technicals, using Linux for LDAP

Re: [Hampshire] Domain type authentication using Linux as "domain" server

2012-04-08 Thread Tony Wood
+1 to Ally's remarks. As a relative newcomer to Linux, I was at first somewhat put off by the quick-fire geekiness I saw in these mailing lists. I'm glad now that I persisted and am amazed at the difference now that I and my wife have gone 100% Linux: FAR less hassle; fewer clicks to do what we

Re: [Hampshire] Domain type authentication using Linux as "domain" server

2012-04-08 Thread Bryn Jones
I've always had a "right tool for the job" approach. I can just no longer justify 99% of the time Windows being that tool. Like I said I've served enough time doing 3rd line support in Windows dev/hardware houses to backup my feelings. Apologies to anyone that thought I was being 'childish'. W

Re: [Hampshire] Domain type authentication using Linux as "domain" server

2012-04-08 Thread Keith Edmunds
On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 13:44:42 +0100, hants...@http-420.co.uk said: > Also would M$ Windoze be more acceptable? No: as others have explained at some length and more politely than perhaps me, it's childish. If you prefer: it isn't big, and it isn't clever. -- "You can have everything in life you wa

Re: [Hampshire] Domain type authentication using Linux as "domain" server

2012-04-08 Thread hantslug
On Sunday 08 April 2012 12:35:52 Ally Biggs wrote: > Sent from my iPhone I know that that imposes certain limitations, and am not sure what they are, but would it be possible for you to break your text up a bit? I made the effort to read it, but it was an effort, and I would greatly appreciate

Re: [Hampshire] Domain type authentication using Linux as "domain" server

2012-04-08 Thread Ally Biggs
I agree with Stuart I have had a lot of experiences of Linux users slating windows or calling it windozes and stupid names, And you are right it does make people unwelcome. Linux and windows both bring something unique to the table both have there pros and cons. linux for the server side and win

Re: [Hampshire] Domain type authentication using Linux as "domain" server

2012-04-08 Thread Stuart Sears
On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 13:44:42 +0100, Bryn Jones wrote: [snip, hopefully without attribution errors] Also would M$ Windoze be more acceptable? No, not really. It looks and sounds childish to me. Constant references to Microsoft and Windows like this (which often appear in publicly searchable arc

Re: [Hampshire] Domain type authentication using Linux as 'domain' server

2012-04-08 Thread Bryn Jones
Bang on!!! (following a cursory glance it covers it all in a ready built box) I'm not all that au fait with cent os but I started my linux journey in Red Hat 7 I think Muchas Gracias On 08/04/12 02:47, Ally Biggs wrote: sme server is free and worth a look at if you want a easy way to setu

Re: [Hampshire] Domain type authentication using Linux as 'domain' server

2012-04-07 Thread Ally Biggs
sme server is free and worth a look at if you want a easy way to setup a dc using Linux then you can't go wrong. Sent from my iPhone On 7 Apr 2012, at 16:15, "Jan Henkins" wrote: > Hello Bryn, > > On Sat, April 7, 2012 15:36, Bryn Jones wrote: >> 1 & 2 are core. You seem to have grasped my n

Re: [Hampshire] Domain type authentication using Linux as 'domain' server

2012-04-07 Thread Jan Henkins
Hello Bryn, On Sat, April 7, 2012 15:36, Bryn Jones wrote: > 1 & 2 are core. You seem to have grasped my needs. They cloud Email so > thats all cool. I'll work on calendaring next :) > > GPO is nil priority (too small a network to need it). OK then, you're in luck. You will find that there are to

Re: [Hampshire] Domain type authentication using Linux as "domain" server

2012-04-07 Thread Bryn Jones
On 07/04/12 14:13, James Courtier-Dutton wrote: On 7 April 2012 13:19, Bryn Jones wrote: Hi all, I'm bouncing round London and having done some work for a charity while I'm here I have an idea to sort out something out for them. They have a windoze network (without domain just workgroup) with

Re: [Hampshire] Domain type authentication using Linux as "domain" server

2012-04-07 Thread James Courtier-Dutton
On 7 April 2012 13:19, Bryn Jones wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm bouncing round London and having done some work for a charity while I'm > here I have an idea to sort out something out for them. > > They have a windoze network (without domain just workgroup) with (now) about > 12 windoze 7 (oh god it wa

Re: [Hampshire] Domain type authentication using Linux as "domain" server

2012-04-07 Thread Ally Biggs
Windows 7 is easy to deploy on a mass scale if you utilise technologies such as the WAIK and wimpe to automate the whole process. or if you have a windows server setup WDS or RIS and you can hammer out automated install images allay long quickly and without user input. as for the domain controll

Re: [Hampshire] Domain type authentication using Linux as "domain" server

2012-04-07 Thread Bryn Jones
On 07/04/12 13:29, Keith Edmunds wrote: On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 13:19:22 +0100, hants...@http-420.co.uk said: Thoughts?, suggestions?, general derision?, want to look at my cute dog?. Thoughts: ensure that what you would like to do meets with what the client wants. Don't impose a more technical so

Re: [Hampshire] Domain type authentication using Linux as "domain" server

2012-04-07 Thread Keith Edmunds
On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 13:19:22 +0100, hants...@http-420.co.uk said: > Thoughts?, suggestions?, general derision?, want to look at my cute dog?. Thoughts: ensure that what you would like to do meets with what the client wants. Don't impose a more technical solution upon them unless it meets a need t

[Hampshire] Domain type authentication using Linux as "domain" server

2012-04-07 Thread Bryn Jones
Hi all, I'm bouncing round London and having done some work for a charity while I'm here I have an idea to sort out something out for them. They have a windoze network (without domain just workgroup) with (now) about 12 windoze 7 (oh god it was painful installing those!!!) client machines, a