David,
One evening in the machine room where I worked, I saw a listings binder
sitting on top of a 370/145. As always curious, I took a peek at the title.
It included the words 370 Emulation. My immediate reaction was to think
What are you really?, sufficiently strong a reaction that I probably
You said CICS, so I have to cover quite a broad range of options here
since I'm not sure about the user interface you'd be testing.
For Web and GUI user interfaces:
IBM Rational Performance Tester. I particularly like the z/OS version --
z/OS is a very good place to put this kind of stress
Yes, it does appear that way.
Those of you interested in Java batch (everybody, I hope) should look
carefully at *both* the available technologies. JZOS is one, and the
other is WebSphere XD V6 for z/OS. WebSphere XD z/OS started shipping
just last month, and one of its claims to fame is the
Ah, well I was just checking the create date which remained at 1996.
How does it do a delete and define without changing the create date.
Jim McAlpine
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Well, we do have
David.Speake wrote:
This stimulates. Why should they not be able to run
UNIX/LINEX/AS400/Alpha-VMS or even Windows on Z chips without Z/OS or
VM. I
have no idea what the instruction set burned into the metal is like
nor how
I/O is really done at the hardware level. The ONLY metal instruction I
A reference to the following appeared in a Google Groups digest but not in my
reader. I'll be interested to see whether or not this response will be
correctly attached to the original. I suspect not. If not, perhaps someone will
explain how postings get connected.
freelance wrote:
Hi, I'm
Nobody answered, so I'll put my $0.02.
1. AFAIK, IRD prerequisite is to have several LPARs in one CPC,
belonging to same sysplex. IMHO it is not very popular to run parallel
sysplex on single CPC. Usually the LPARs on CPC are not sysplexed (or
belong to different syplexes).
In other words,
IMHO it is not very popular to run parallel
sysplex on single CPC. Usually the LPARs on CPC are not sysplexed (or
belong to different syplexes).
I totally and thoroughly disagree.
I have seen many shops with all LPARs in the same PLEX and there were fewer
footprints than images.
LPARs work
Here's a link.
http://www.elink.ibmlink.ibm.com/public/applications/publications/cgibin/pbi.cgi?SSN=06BOM0041890452602FNC=SRH
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For some reason, I have a talent (misfortune?) for uncovering
nasty bugs that people at other shops do not. ...
Perhaps you exercise (exorcise?) code paths that others don't. :-)
-jc-
On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 04:31 -0600, Ron MacRae wrote:
We have some fairly large LRECL FB sequential work files and were
finding them unblocked, which increased our I/O quite a bit.
Is this really so? When SMF reports a particular number of EXCPs, I
believe it's really just counting blocks (SMF
Hello,
We're revising the required system data sets (SA22-7629-00) and one of them
is SYS1.IMAGELIB.
Is required library in fact at IPL process?
We have read old post (5 Oct 1999 from Zoltan Forray with subject
SYS1.IMAGELIB) and DFSMSdfp Utilities book but we haven't clarify our
question.
If anyone is interested in the original showing of this TV bit in AVI
format, send me PRIVATE e-mail.
George Shedlock Jr
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On a slightly related subject, What are you all doing in the way of
systems checkout? We are looking for a way to simulate a person sitting in
front of a green screen, keying input and verifying that the results
expected are the ones received. Some sort of scripting application would
be great.
The x3270 suite has a program called s3270 with is used for scripting
interaction with a 3270 session.
George J Shedlock wrote:
On a slightly related subject, What are you all doing in the way of
systems checkout? We are looking for a way to simulate a person sitting in
front of a green
Long ago - well, OK, about 6 or 8 months ago -- I had started working on some
scripts using s3270 to use with Hobbit and/or Nagios for performance alerting.
Most likely, s3270 (perhaps combined with Expect) should do what George needs.
Thanks,
Jon
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Ron,
With Sequential pre-fetch in all cache controllers nowadays I don't think
you will see much of a difference between BLKSIZE=7000 and BLKSIZE=21000,
unless this is a very large file. If you want almost equivalent performance
then for SDB you can triple your buffers - DCB=BUFNO=15. Then you
On Tue, 2006-02-14 at 19:00 -0600, Matt Collins wrote:
I monitor these terminals where information is always scrolling up the screen.
I think it's: time, job#, serial#, tape#, and some other stuff. But when a
message comes up that it needs a tape or something, I'm lost.
Perhaps you're seeing
Matt,
If TMS is used to print your scratch listing, then it is probably the
program issuing most of the messages on your console. We don't use TMS at my
shop, so I won't be much help on the actual messages -- you will probably need
to find a manual from Computer Associates, who develop
Mr Ngafei Huang,
That's a very handy IBM manual search URL. It revealed that the SNA Formats
reference I gave was 4 levels out!
Thanks.
Chris Mason
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Ron,
With Sequential pre-fetch in all cache controllers nowadays I don't think
you will see much of a difference between BLKSIZE=7000 and BLKSIZE=21000,
unless this is a very large file. If you want almost
On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 08:20:57 -0600, Christian Blesa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hello,
We're revising the required system data sets (SA22-7629-00) and one of them
is SYS1.IMAGELIB.
Is required library in fact at IPL process?
snip
IPL, no. JES2 startup, no. Printing - yes.
I haven't used the
In a recent note, David Andrews said:
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:30:34 -0500
Almost without exception, messages that appear on your console are
prefixed with a unique message number (IEC501A in the example above).
If you have Messages and Codes books available to you, you can look up
Vernoy,
If you have been following this thread you will see that track usage is not
always better with larger blocksizes. I was corrected on this as well - for
an LRECL of 7000 a BLKSIZE of 21000 wastes more of a track then BLKSIZE
7000.
As for performance on ESCON, the is a significant
In a message dated 2/15/2006 7:34:35 A.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Perhaps you exercise (exorcise?) code paths that others don't. :-)
Took the words right out of my mouth. Or perhaps the mix of nasty 3rd party
codevbg.
In a recent note, Ron and Jenny Hawkins said:
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 00:14:01 +0800
If you have been following this thread you will see that track usage is not
always better with larger blocksizes. I was corrected on this as well - for
an LRECL of 7000 a BLKSIZE of 21000 wastes more
Using the DADSM exits to bias allocation is tricky because the
IGGPRE00 exit is presented each volume in SRM order once. If you want
to favor certain volumes, you might reject volumes with space and accept
the favorable volumes with no space.
Not to be too blatant about a product endorsement, but
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/14/2006
at 09:31 AM, Bruce Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I erased a 3390-3 (2.8GB) in an EMC DMX1000 subsystem.
The write phase took only 40 seconds, which is about 71MB/sec.
However, FDRERASE also waits for the control unit to harden the data
from cache to disk,
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/14/2006
at 06:56 PM, David Speake [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
This stimulates. Why should they not be able to run
UNIX/LINEX/AS400/Alpha-VMS or even Windows on Z chips without Z/OS or
VM.
1. AIX/370 and IX/370 ran on older S/370 processorsl it wouldn't
take much
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/14/2006
at 07:00 PM, Matt Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Subject: Don't fully understand IBM terminal
What do you mean by IBM terminal? My first thought was MCS console,
but parts of your message don't fit that.
If you're looking at an MCS console, then see the
In a recent note, Edward E. Jaffe said:
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 10:59:06 -0800
For some reason, I have a talent (misfortune?) for uncovering
nasty bugs that people at other shops do not.
I also. But I'll grant an idiosyncratic temperament: many
customers on encountering such a bug
Some kind of military boat.
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Ron, I'm not sure I understand your advice. Could you explain the
difference between specifying BLKSIZE=0 and coding BLKSIZE=0?
TIA,
Greg Shirey
Ben E. Keith Company
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In a message dated 2/15/2006 10:49:37 A.M. Central Standard Time,
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Ron, I'm not sure I understand your advice. Could you explain the
difference between specifying BLKSIZE=0 and coding BLKSIZE=0?
It's a payfor service
I tried this post at CICS forum but got limited replies.
Please bear with me.
Dear Listers:
We are currently using CICS/ESA 4.1 and are planning to convert to CICS/TS but
not right now.
We need to create some very large VSAM files.
Does CICS/ESA 4.1 support Extended Format Vsam files?
We
What happens if you concurrently erase, e.g., 4 3390-3 volumes?
I suspect that your calculated effective data rate will be higher.
Generally true, depending on the configuration. If the CU has FICON
channels and/or multiple channels, then the disks can be erased
concurrently, subject to
My people should be contacting your people.
Dave has people??
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How does it do a delete and define without changing the create date.
When doing a SVC 26 DEFINE, the create date is one of the FPLs that can
be passed (defaults to todays date)
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I have found that DSORG PS and PO don't always get half track blocking with
SDB. For example, SDB picks a BLKSIZE of 7000 for LRECL 7000.
Assuming you are talking about RECFM=FB,
a blocksize of 7000 gets 6 blocks per track or 42000 bytes/track
a blocksize of 21000 (half-track) also gets 42000
Since there has been a mention of S/360 I/O architecture, I am reminded that
almost precisely 35 years ago (I have a marker to pin my memory) I
played a little game with the S/360 Model 20 where I discovered the Model 20
I/O interface. The programming ran on bare boards, that is, without the
Yes, Dave has people. Not as many as Tony perhaps, but people nonetheless...
[;)]
Dave
At 2/15/2006 12:35 PM, BBlack wrote:
My people should be contacting your people.
Dave has people??
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personal:
Most forms of IEBGENER (including the real one these days, I believe)
preserve the input (SYSUT1) BLKSIZE unless it is specified in the SYSUT2
DD.
In other words, your test didn't test SDB.
On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:21:46 -0500, Jon Brock wrote:
I forgot to include that the JCL I was using was
Good point. I'll try again another way. But first I'll smack myself in the
face with a fish for forgetting this. 'S what I get for doing too many things
at once.
Jon
snip
Most forms of IEBGENER (including the real one these days, I believe)
preserve the input (SYSUT1) BLKSIZE unless it is
I can get there by ip number but no DNS resolution.
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Information Technology
Washington State University
Pullman, WA 99164-1222
On 14 Feb 2006 08:27:41 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John P Kalinich) wrote:
I have found that DSORG PS and PO don't always get half
track blocking with
SDB. For example, SDB picks a BLKSIZE of 7000 for LRECL 7000.
Well, that makes
On 14 Feb 2006 09:22:07 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Andrews) wrote:
Interesting. On my system (z/OS 1.3... yeah, I know) an
extended
sequential dataset at LRECL=6991 yields
BLKSIZE=27964. LRECL=6992
yields BLKSIZE=6992.
But
On Mon, 2006-02-13 at 23:00 -0600, IBM-MAIN automatic digest system
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I don't agree, IEFBR14 does not OPEN the dataset, so CLOSE is not
involved.
SCRATCH
On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:46:53 -0500, Bruce Black [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Assuming you are talking about RECFM=FB,
a blocksize of 7000 gets 6 blocks per track or 42000 bytes/track
a blocksize of 21000 (half-track) also gets 42000 bytes/track, no
difference.
By my calculation (verified by
Shmuel Metz , Seymour J. wrote:
1. AIX/370 and IX/370 ran on older S/370 processorsl it wouldn't
take much to get them up on zSeries if the source code were
still around and somebody cared.
aix/370 was port from ucla's locus (different heritage than the power
aix, which was a att
On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 14:37 -0500, Arthur T. wrote:
Does your SMS pool have at least one 3380 defined?
No 3380s defined anywhere. HCD doesn't mention 3380s, D U,DASD
doesn't return 3380s. VATLSTxx says 3390s. VIO emulation is for 3390s.
I can't find 3380 anything. But it was a very
If you really want to maximize the FB blocksize (in the hopes of improving
performance without regard to impact on size), then specify the blocksize in
the JCL DD statement or DCB macro with a value computed as (32767/LRECL)*LRECL
using integer arithmetic. If you are willing to compromise a
Loadrunner actually does have a 3270 interface now so it can drive terminal
traffic to a mainframe CICS application. I believe it can simulate
multiple users using a tn3270 emulator to access the mainframe application.
No matter what tool you use, the real work is in developing an accurate
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Has anyone been through a conversion of CA-OPERA to CA-OPS/MVS ? CA says
they don't have a conversion program. I was wondering what other
customers have done. Any help would be appreciated.
Thank you
We are z/OS V1R4.
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On Feb 15, 2006, at 4:31 AM, Chris Mason wrote:
A reference to the following appeared in a Google Groups digest
but not in my reader. I'll be interested to see whether or not this
response will be correctly attached to the original. I suspect not.
If not, perhaps someone will explain how
On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 15:42 -0500, Bob Rutledge wrote:
What does ISMF say about your default device geometry?
Default Device Geometry :
Bytes/track . . . . . : 56664
Tracks/cylinder . . . : 15
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Mark,
True, there is no conversion program.
Our Sysprog on this task, is simply rewriting the rules.
However, we used the same control character, so no documentation changes.
It's for the best, since you want to remove any timers ( wait 1) and make
the rules event driven (if msg = ).
Kevin
By my calculation (verified by experimentation) a blocksize of 7000 gets
7 blocks per track for 49000 bytes/track.
Oops, ur right. I read the 3390 blocksize chart wrong. So for
LRECL=7000, BLKSIZE=7000 gets MORE data on the track than 21000
(half-track).
BTW, the largest half-track record
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[ snip ]
I believe that there (at least at one time there was) a
program that was called TAF (or was it called TAP?) It was
document, IIRC the the SSL (utilities for the 37XX box). My
memory is not
In a recent note, Barry Schwarz said:
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:15:39 -0800
If you really want to maximize the FB blocksize (in the hopes of improving
perfor
mance without regard to impact on size), then specify the blocksize in the
JCL DD
statement or DCB macro with a value
What does ISMF say about your default device geometry?
I am pretty sure that the SMS default geometry only affects space
calculations, converting CYL and TRK requests to bytes, and does not
affect SDB
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On Feb 15, 2006, at 3:15 PM, Chase, John wrote:
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ACFTAP. A real tree killer. :-)
John,
Thanks for memory jogs.
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Coding this
//DD1 DD SPACE=(TRK,(5,1)),RECFM=VB,LRECL=80,
//DSORG=PS
Is the same as
//DD1 DD SPACE=(TRK,(5,1)),RECFM=VB,LRECL=80,
//DSORG=PS,BLKSIZE=0
Or perhaps I should have said coding in both cases.
Ron
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Are the data sets in linklist?
Are the data sets in the master catalog?
Is the master catalog shared by more than one system?
Is the sysres shared by more than one system?
Is PARMLIB shared by more than one system?
Don Imbriale
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Hi,
We are trying to restrict the execution of certain
Hmm, I get that, and maybe I'm just being slow, but you said:
...best practice for SDB is not to specify BLKSIZE=0, it is to specify the
DCB and omit the BLKSIZE, or specify the DCB and code BLKSIZE=0.
I'm unclear on what you're describing for the 'best practice' contrasting to
what you said was
ThruPut Manager will do this very easily.
I've heard of sites who use WLM Scheduling Environments to accomlish
similar results, as well.
The prior suggestions of a JES2 exit, plus the suggestion of a WLM
scheduling environment, might be a pretty good roll your own solution.
Brian
On Wed, 15
Greetings,
I am signed up for the IBM class ES902 in LA on
03/20/2006, which is called Advanced Parallel Sysplex
Operations and Recovery. I think that enrollment is
low and they need more students to allow the class to
be given.
If you haven't been to a class in LA recently, the
classes are
On Feb 15, 2006, at 4:39 PM, Imbriale, Donald (Exchange) wrote:
Are the data sets in linklist?
Are the data sets in the master catalog?
Is the master catalog shared by more than one system?
Is the sysres shared by more than one system?
Is PARMLIB shared by more than one system?
On Feb 15, 2006, at 5:13 PM, Brian Peterson wrote:
ThruPut Manager will do this very easily.
I've heard of sites who use WLM Scheduling Environments to accomlish
similar results, as well.
The prior suggestions of a JES2 exit, plus the suggestion of a WLM
scheduling environment, might be a
OSEM from Trident Services can do what you are looking for.
(http://www.triserve.com)
We use it to restrict SAS to one LPAR as an example. I did a
presentation at Share Anaheim on the product and its use.
On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 16:32 -0600, Jerry Vernon wrote:
Hi,
We are trying to restrict
The ISV MVS Solutions Inc. has a software product ThruPut Manager which
provides user-defined intelligent job routing and much more, such as
resource staging (prior to job-initiation) including production support for
virtual volume staging as well as DFHSM HRECALLs and silo/rack tape volume
Greg,
Coding the DSORG is best practice for SDB. Omitting BLKSIZE or coding
BLKSIZE=0 is user preference.
Simply removing BLKSIZE or changing to BLKSIZE=0 is common practice, but it
is not good practice. This is why SDB was not used for Ron's a Seq
allocation examples.
This is not good
Gil,
That's the second time you mention seeking in this thread.
In reality most emulated tracks, in fact CYLS, are located on a single
physical track of the underlying FBA disk drive, and part of a stripe across
several spindles.
In HDS case, sequential pre-fetch reads a whole stripe into
In a recent note, Greg Shirey said:
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 16:44:12 -0600
Hmm, I get that, and maybe I'm just being slow, but you said:
...best practice for SDB is not to specify BLKSIZE=0, it is to specify the
DCB and omit the BLKSIZE, or specify the DCB and code BLKSIZE=0.
I'm
Group,
I'm working on the install of CICS TS V31 and I'm getting the message
DFHLG0506 telling me my DFHLOG is not defined because of insufficient LOGR
couple dataset space. I located the COUPLExx member in PARMLIB and was
wondering:
How do I increase the size of these PCOUPLE and
we also restrict SAS to 1 lpar for contractual
reasons. we have CA/Top Secret so we can restrict
programs and datasets by SMF IDs.
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Perhaps if they reduced the price a bit? $4365 seems a bit steep for a
5-day class?
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John Wynton wrote:
Perhaps if they reduced the price a bit? $4365 seems a bit steep for a
5-day class?
Yikes!
And we charge $2,200 per _class_ day, allowing up to 12
students and _including_ instructor expenses! [in the
continental US, anyway.] So $11,000 for a 5-day class,
inclusive, total
On Feb 15, 2006, at 9:35 PM, Steve Comstock wrote:
John Wynton wrote:
Perhaps if they reduced the price a bit? $4365 seems a bit steep
for a
5-day class?
Yikes!
And we charge $2,200 per _class_ day, allowing up to 12
students and _including_ instructor expenses! [in the
continental US,
IRD does have it's merits, a parallel sysplex will likely consist of
multiple LPARs which span multiple CPC. IRD will help the LPARs on the same
CPC (AND are also in the same sysplex)
An example where this can be useful is if say within that sysplex, some LPAR
are CMC support network related
Look at 'Setting Up a Sysplex', at the chapter about IXCL1DSU. It has a
section about LOGR CDSs. You will need to check how big the CDS is now
allocated (d xcf,cpl,type=logr) and increase those values on the DSU
utility, depending on what gives you problems.
A word of advise: Keep one data set in
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I don't
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