2109-M14 IBM Director FICON URGENT!!!!

2006-02-16 Thread Lieven Borgs
Hi, Need to config CASCADED ficon directors 2109-M14 IBM Director (brocade SW 24000). 1) What UIM is used? What PSP bucket will I need? 2) Sample IOCP deck of cascaded ficon directors. Thx, Lieven -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: 2109-M14 IBM Director FICON URGENT!!!!

2006-02-16 Thread Marian Gasparovic
I strongly reccomend you to read redbook FICON Implementation... BTW I tried to send you gif file with definitions, but this mailing list rejects gifs and you address failed with permanent error Marian Gasparovic IBM Slovakia On 2/16/06, Lieven Borgs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Need to

Re: SYS1.IMAGELIB doubts!

2006-02-16 Thread DMR-Qualitas Outsourcing
Eric, I also think that only the catalogued SYS1.IMAGELIB will be used but I would like to see if our premise is true! I had revising proclibs/parmlibs/nucleus but I haven't found where SYS1.IMAGELIB is defined... Thanks On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:04:28 -0600, Eric Bielefeld Eric- [EMAIL

Re: SYS1.IMAGELIB doubts!

2006-02-16 Thread Christian Blesa
Hello Mark, thank you again for your help. We have tested an IPL with renamed SYS1.IMAGELIB and IPL has finished correctly without errors. Chr. On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:06:14 -0600, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 08:20:57 -0600, Christian Blesa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Redirecting Software Functionality

2006-02-16 Thread Stefan Finka
Hi Tony, We also have CA-Top Secret (8.0)and I tried doing this by protecting a PROGRAM resource by SYSID. However, I found that CA removed this feature from TSS 5.1 onwards for performance reasons. So, how exactly are you doing this with TSS? Thanks, Stefan

Re: 2109-M14 IBM Director FICON URGENT!!!!

2006-02-16 Thread Lieven Borgs
1) how do I define my second director in HCD? 2) 2109-M14 is this device type:2032? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the

Re: Redirecting Software Functionality

2006-02-16 Thread Bob Shannon
We are trying to restrict the execution of certain programs by LPAR so we can just license them by processor. The one in particular we are looking at is COBOL. By limiting COBOL compiles to one Development LPAR. Does anyone know of any software that can be used to do this? RACF cannot do this

Re: Redirecting Software Functionality

2006-02-16 Thread Itschak Mugzach
I would protect IBM product usage by specifying their name in IFAPRDxx with STATE(DISABLED). ITschak -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Shannon Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 1:49 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re:

Re: Redirecting Software Functionality

2006-02-16 Thread Schramm, Rob
restrict the dataset via CPUID. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stefan Finka Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 5:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Redirecting Software Functionality Hi Tony, We also have CA-Top

Re: Redirecting Software Functionality

2006-02-16 Thread John Eells
Timothy Sipples wrote: I wonder if IPLing z/OS as z/OS.e would do the trick. snip This would, of course, entail additional restrictions--not just the COBOL compiler--and I believe it would also require a change from a z/OS license to a z/OS.e license. -- John Eells z/OS Technical

Re: Redirecting Software Functionality

2006-02-16 Thread John Eells
Itschak Mugzach wrote: I would protect IBM product usage by specifying their name in IFAPRDxx with STATE(DISABLED). snip This works only for products (and optional priced elements of z/OS) that use the IFAEDREG service. I don't think the COBOL compiler is one of them. -- John Eells z/OS

Re: Redirecting Software Functionality

2006-02-16 Thread Mark Jacobs
I just love standards. There are so many of them. I wish IBM and all the vendors would agree on ONE method of product protection and have everyone convert to that method. It would make all our lives so much easier. Mark Jacobs Time Customer Service Inc. Tampa, FL -Original Message-

Re: Redirecting Software Functionality

2006-02-16 Thread Staller, Allan
AFAIK z/OS.e is exactly the same code as z/OS. The only difference is what is allowed to be executed via IFAPRDxx and contractual considerations. snip I wonder if IPLing z/OS as z/OS.e would do the trick. /snip -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: Redirecting Software Functionality

2006-02-16 Thread Walt Farrell
On 2/15/2006 5:32 PM, Jerry Vernon wrote: We are trying to restrict the execution of certain programs by LPAR so we can just license them by processor. The one in particular we are looking at is COBOL. By limiting COBOL compiles to one Development LPAR. Does anyone know of any software that

Re: ISREDIT macro advice required.

2006-02-16 Thread Walt Farrell
On 2/16/2006 7:10 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Experts, I have an edit macro here which does some processing on a production file. Excludes a number of records then does some selective deleting based on characters if finds at certain positions. My CLIST knowledge is scant at best, and this

Re: ISREDIT macro advice required.

2006-02-16 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Are you running your edit macro in background (BDISPMAX(100))? if so, just call your edit with a larger number of display screens like this: EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01,DYNAMNBR=100, PARM='ISPSTART CMD(%editmyds) BDISPMAX(9)' and, as Walt mentioned, you can specify Control list (and conlist /

Re: Redirecting Software Functionality

2006-02-16 Thread David Andrews
On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 17:14 -0600, Ed Gould wrote: But programmers can be fairly tricky. I have seen iebcopy of the contents of the compiler (as well as the syslib of LE) done so they can get around restrictions (like your entry). Then take 'em to HR and have 'em shot. Seriously, this is

Re: Disk vs Tape scenario

2006-02-16 Thread Art Celestini
So, from the info Ron and Bruce provided, it sounds like multi-GB single- threaded disk output can get 30-40 MB/sec these days. Impressive! I don't know if even the newest and fastest tape can compare with those numbers. However, for the original poster's situation, I still believe his best

Re: Redirecting Software Functionality

2006-02-16 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Andrews Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 8:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Redirecting Software Functionality On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 17:14 -0600, Ed Gould wrote:

Re: Redirecting Software Functionality

2006-02-16 Thread Charles Mills
Sadly, the US Department of Justice would probably not allow this. They look very much askance at dominant vendors getting together to talk about terms of sale. Yeah, I know, it seems like all of the customers would benefit, but it would be considered restraint of trade. It would make life

Re: Mainframe Jobs Going Away

2006-02-16 Thread Duane Reaugh
Interesting article about Mainframes at Merrill Lynch Merrill Lynch Co.: Living Legacy We are making the mainframe strategic to our future. It's a fundamental decision, he says. Back in the 1990s, it was trendy to say you were migrating off the mainframe. Now, I couldn't predict when the

Re: Redirecting Software Functionality

2006-02-16 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
Mark Jacobs wrote: I just love standards. There are so many of them. I wish IBM and all the vendors would agree on ONE method of product protection and have everyone convert to that method. It was called IBM License Manager for z/OS. The idea was great; the implementation was a total

Re: ISREDIT macro advice required.

2006-02-16 Thread Steve Flynn
On 16/02/06, Itschak Mugzach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you running your edit macro in background (BDISPMAX(100))? if so, just call your edit with a larger number of display screens like this: EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01,DYNAMNBR=100, PARM='ISPSTART CMD(%editmyds) BDISPMAX(9)' and, as Walt

Re: Mount a tape in flexes

2006-02-16 Thread Duane Reaugh
Jerry You have to define the device to Flexes first. Go to a terminal window (We have Linux) and enter D DEVSTATE 590 it should show the a file name like /dev/st1 or /dev/st0 If not you will have to issue a mount command to z/OS 1.6. If your FLEX box is from Cornerstone, there should be

Re: SYS1.IMAGELIB doubts!

2006-02-16 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 2/16/2006 4:34:52 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: thank you again for your help. We have tested an IPL with renamed SYS1.IMAGELIB and IPL has finished correctly without errors. You guys had me tossing all night. What about the standalone pgms?

Re: DASD allocation guidelines

2006-02-16 Thread David Andrews
On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 16:29 -0500, Bruce Black wrote: What does ISMF say about your default device geometry? I am pretty sure that the SMS default geometry only affects space calculations, converting CYL and TRK requests to bytes, and does not affect SDB I think Bob Rutledge has nailed the

Re: Redirecting Software Functionality

2006-02-16 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 2/16/2006 7:07:28 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: vendors would agree on ONE method of product protection and have everyone convert to that method. It would make all our lives so much easier. Heck then they could outsource us to

Re: Disk vs Tape scenario

2006-02-16 Thread Ron and Jenny Hawkins
Art, This goes back to the idea of Rapid Exchange. The unloaded dataset is on a Mainframe volume(s) in the array that can be mounted on Unix and Windows systems through an API provided by HDS. The volume can be read-only to Open, read-only to mainframe, or RW for both - you choose. The dataset

New eSource Mag.

2006-02-16 Thread Ed Finnell
Pretty good roll out featuring articles on Lord Abbot, Wachovia, Pittsburg Medical Center, and upcoming events like SHARE. To recommend iSource--Help your colleagues stay informed with all of the latest IBM news. Go to: http://www.ibm.com/isource/cgi-bin/goto?on=recommend_isource

Re: Redirecting Software Functionality

2006-02-16 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 08:07:17 -0500, Mark Jacobs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just love standards. There are so many of them. I wish IBM and all the vendors would agree on ONE method of product protection and have everyone convert to that method. It would make all our lives so much easier. It's a

Re: Mainframe Jobs Going Away

2006-02-16 Thread Jon Brock
Absolutely fascinating. Jon -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Duane Reaugh Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mainframe Jobs Going Away Interesting article about Mainframes at Merrill

HSM Question

2006-02-16 Thread Andy White
We were wondering if anyone has had the same problem as us. We have done a merger with a company but now have a system with a lot of HSM migrated tapes which contains all type of data e,.g. VSAM, PDSE etc. We were going to create ABAR backups but im told by the storage people that it wont

Re: VTAM Trace and manuals

2006-02-16 Thread Chris Mason
First to Mr freelance, I spotted that you had also posted on the bit.listserv.vse-l group. You may like to add a post to your original in order to say the topic has sparked a discussion in the bit.listserv.ibm-main group. This way people will learn most and waste least time. It's normal when

Re: Disk vs Tape scenario

2006-02-16 Thread Bruce Black
So, from the info Ron and Bruce provided, it sounds like multi-GB single- threaded disk output can get 30-40 MB/sec these days. Impressive! I don't know if even the newest and fastest tape can compare with those numbers. The newest IBM mainframe drive TS1120 claims a data rate of 100MB/sec

Cobol TGT FCB Mapping

2006-02-16 Thread Porowski, Ken
Anyone know where I can find a map of a Cobol for z/OS TGT? Specifically I'm looking for FCB entries. Thanks Ken Porowski AVP Systems Software CIT Group -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Re: Cobol TGT FCB Mapping

2006-02-16 Thread Eugene S.Hudders
Hi Ken: Hi Ken: You get a copy of the TGT and DSA maps at the end of the compilation. You may want to check your options (CBL) to make sure that the maps are being requested. Regards, Gene -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: HSM Question

2006-02-16 Thread Ron and Jenny Hawkins
Andy, How about merging the Control Files? Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy White Sent: Friday, 17 February 2006 12:01 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: HSM Question We were wondering if anyone has had the

Re: Cobol TGT FCB Mapping

2006-02-16 Thread John P Kalinich
Enterprise COBOL for z/OS V3.4 Programming Guide, 2.6.3.7.8 Example: TGT memory map. Porowski, Ken

Heads Up - LE PE - PK15432

2006-02-16 Thread Mark Zelden
We recently rolled out RSU0512 maintenance which included a fix to allow the LE support for Enterprise Cobol for z/OS V3R4 NF PTF to get applied (which itself was PEd). It turns out there is a new PE related to this support (it went PE on 01/19/2006 - 2 days before our rollout). A short

Re: Cobol TGT FCB Mapping

2006-02-16 Thread Porowski, Ken
I have the map from the compile but for the FCB all I see is where the FCB is and not the fields within it. Am I looking at the wrong thing? IN TGT RESERVED - 72 BYTES

Re: Cobol TGT FCB Mapping

2006-02-16 Thread Eugene S.Hudders
Hi Ken: I am not sure I understand but the FCB Cells at TGT + X'00184' are addresses that should point to the FCBs. Regards, Gene -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL

Re: Cobol TGT FCB Mapping

2006-02-16 Thread Porowski, Ken
What I am looking for is the mapping (field descriptions) of the FCB. -Original Message- Eugene S.Hudders Hi Ken: I am not sure I understand but the FCB Cells at TGT + X'00184' are addresses that should point to the FCBs. Regards, Gene

Re: Cobol TGT FCB Mapping

2006-02-16 Thread Gilbert Saint-Flour
On Thursday 16 February 2006 12:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I am looking for is the mapping (field descriptions) of the FCB. http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind9901L=ibm-mainO=DF=S=P=102105 --  Gilbert Saint-Flour  GSF Software  http://gsf-soft.com/ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: ISREDIT macro advice required.

2006-02-16 Thread Dave Salt
From: Steve Flynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] We are running it in the background, as part of a batch job. BDISPMAX is at the default of 100... I've not tried turning the BDISPMAX value up, as I consistently errors when running the code. I'd like to fix it before turning up BDISPMAX. Steve,

Re: Redirecting Software Functionality

2006-02-16 Thread Bob Rutledge
Other departments that have interest in this sort of behavior, at least where I work, are Loss Prevention and Risk Management. Bob David Andrews wrote: On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 17:14 -0600, Ed Gould wrote: But programmers can be fairly tricky. I have seen iebcopy of the contents of the

Re: DASD allocation guidelines

2006-02-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/15/2006 at 08:39 AM, David Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Is this really so? When SMF reports a particular number of EXCPs, I believe it's really just counting blocks It's counting EXCP's and adjusting the count to allow for chaining. Keep in mind, however, that

Re: JES2 Crashing (Was: z/OS Console ID Tracking facility)

2006-02-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/15/2006 at 09:47 AM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I, contrariwise, even after discovering a circumvention, am more likely start a PMR on any of the approaches that I had initially believed would work. I'll create an ETR, but if I've got an acceptable

Re: Redirecting Software Functionality

2006-02-16 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 16, 2006, at 7:40 AM, Walt Farrell wrote: On 2/15/2006 5:32 PM, Jerry Vernon wrote: We are trying to restrict the execution of certain programs by LPAR so we can just license them by processor. The one in particular we are looking at is COBOL. By limiting COBOL compiles to one

Re: Redirecting Software Functionality

2006-02-16 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 16, 2006, at 8:19 AM, David Andrews wrote: On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 17:14 -0600, Ed Gould wrote: But programmers can be fairly tricky. I have seen iebcopy of the contents of the compiler (as well as the syslib of LE) done so they can get around restrictions (like your entry). Then take

Re: VTAM Trace and manuals

2006-02-16 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 16, 2006, at 10:06 AM, Chris Mason wrote: SNIP-- Ed, If I were cynical I could suspect that you just got rid of your 3745s and associated (through not exclusively so) software last week/last year/only 5 years ago but you have conditioned your

Re: Redirecting Software Functionality

2006-02-16 Thread Hal Merritt
Don't forget our old friends in auditing. We are seeing these kinds of questions. I agree: it is a management issue. And audit trumps politics. More, SOX holds that the managers of the folks that get sneaky can be held accountable. My $0.02. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: Redirecting Software Functionality

2006-02-16 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 16, 2006, at 1:35 PM, Hal Merritt wrote: Don't forget our old friends in auditing. We are seeing these kinds of questions. I agree: it is a management issue. And audit trumps politics. More, SOX holds that the managers of the folks that get sneaky can be held accountable. My $0.02.

Re: Heads Up - LE PE - PK15432

2006-02-16 Thread Jousma, David
Yep, we were burned by that one too. Had a lengthy conversation with IBM support on this one, finally got them to fess up that this behavior change was part of the ENT COB 3.4 support, although it was not documented in the PTF as such at the time. This is a real messy one. Like you say, it

Re: Redirecting Software Functionality

2006-02-16 Thread Chris Mason
Ed, When I was last on a long-term consultancy, by example, I tried to encourage a crude approach to documenting responsibility - and purpose - in a common library by creating a member $$$INDEX. Each line in this member started with the name of each member I added - or had been added by someone I

Re: Heads Up - LE PE - PK15432

2006-02-16 Thread Jousma, David
Here are more comments from my ETR with IBM I guess the rules did change(names removed), from my ETR: David, OK, found two pmrs claiming behavior changed by the APAR. It's related to search/search all comparing the key. In this case we closed a loophole after enhancing National datatypes

HSM Question II

2006-02-16 Thread Andy White
I Wanted to add to this question what is really the problem for us. When you do a ABARS recover from HSM data its my understanding IBM doesn't give the user the option to rename a VSAM dataset. Does anyone have a way or have gotten around this? We really didnt want to define all the alias's

Re: HSM Question

2006-02-16 Thread Andy White
We really didnt want to pollute our HSM control file. Andy S White Internet: Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Andy, How about merging the Control Files? Ron We were wondering if anyone has had the same problem as us. We have done a merger with a company but now have a system with a lot of

Re: Heads Up - LE PE - PK15432

2006-02-16 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:22:03 -0500, Jousma, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep, we were burned by that one too. Had a lengthy conversation with IBM support on this one, finally got them to fess up that this behavior change was part of the ENT COB 3.4 support, although it was not documented in

Re: Redirecting Software Functionality

2006-02-16 Thread Hal Merritt
SMF 30 records usually contain a program name. Do some chargeback. Hit 'em in the budget. One cool thing about this solution is that your customer base may deem it enough of a business need to pay the freight. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: HSM Question II

2006-02-16 Thread Traylor, Terry
Andy, You can recover and rename datasets directly from the ABARS backup dataset. I would refer you to the HSM Implementation and Customization Guide and the DSS Storage Administration Reference. //** //* RESTORE FILE(S) FROM

Re: Heads Up - LE PE - PK15432

2006-02-16 Thread Porowski, Ken
Although the compares are working differently with PK15432 are they not WAD (working as designed/documented) ? As I read the examples in the APAR it was broken and is now fixed (granted, appropriate HOLDDATA would have been nice). Or am I reading this wrong? Therefore, an alphameric search

z/OS 1.6 Withdrawal Date

2006-02-16 Thread Kopischke, David G.
Infrequent Greetings, I'm trying to get moving on a z/OS upgrade. Using IBM's original stated direction of supporting four z/OS releases concurrently, I planned to upgrade to z/OS 1.6 this spring. I just reviewed the z/OS withdrawal dates and 1.6 is proposed to be withdrawn September 2007.

Re: ISREDIT macro advice required.

2006-02-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/16/2006 at 03:03 PM, Steve Flynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Things are getting weird. Not really; you're just expecting REXX to have CLIST semantics. /* What happened to the closing */? ISREDIT EXCLUDE 'IN FORCE' ALL If you want ISREDIT to see those apostrophes

Re: Redirecting Software Functionality

2006-02-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/16/2006 at 09:19 AM, David Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Then take 'em to HR and have 'em shot. Why? Rope is reusable. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We

Re: Heads Up - LE PE - PK15432

2006-02-16 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 16:55:30 -0500, Porowski, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although the compares are working differently with PK15432 are they not WAD (working as designed/documented) ? As I read the examples in the APAR it was broken and is now fixed (granted, appropriate HOLDDATA would have

Re: z/OS 1.6 Withdrawal Date

2006-02-16 Thread Richards.Bob
Dave, Is it safe to assume you are at z/OS 1.4? If the answer is yes, why wouldn't you want to go with z/OS 1.7? In my case, we went to z9s and want to take advantage of some things in z/OS 1.7. As to the every year or every other, I suppose the answer is *IT DEPENDS*. We finished 1.6 only a

Re: z/OS 1.6 Withdrawal Date

2006-02-16 Thread Bruce Black
I just reviewed the z/OS withdrawal dates and 1.6 is proposed to be withdrawn September 2007. This is a year earlier than I had planned and a year earlier that what I thought was IBM's stated direction. It's currently listed as a proposed date, so it might extend, but I need a more solid date

Re: z/OS 1.6 Withdrawal Date

2006-02-16 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I don't recall seeing anything that would indicate IBM has changed their four release policy. So what gives ??? Is everyone else upgrading every year ??? I thought it was only 3. And, the product is only supported for three years. When it was a release a half-year, it pretty well had to be

Re: z/OS 1.6 Withdrawal Date

2006-02-16 Thread Bruce Black
The following link does not show any EOS dates for 1.6. Where did you get your information from? http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/support/zos_eos_dates.html but the site Bob referenced http://www-306.ibm.com/software/info/supportlifecycle/list/z.html does state the 3 year

Re: z/OS 1.6 Withdrawal Date

2006-02-16 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 17:27:36 -0500, Bruce Black wrote: The following link does not show any EOS dates for 1.6. Where did you get your information from? http://www- 03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/support/zos_eos_dates.html but the site Bob referenced

Re: z/OS 1.6 Withdrawal Date

2006-02-16 Thread Dave Kopischke
That's the basis for the question. Waaay back when IBM was talking about an annual release schedule, they announced a four release support policy. I'm not seeing that now. Maybe I'm not reading the dates right ??? I'd have to do some searching just to come up with the doc I think I read that in.

Re: z/OS 1.6 Withdrawal Date

2006-02-16 Thread Dave Kopischke
Yes, we're at 1.4. I'm hesitant to go to anything too new for stability reasons. I'll let you guys test it real good before I jump in with both feet ! http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/support/zos_eos_dates.html On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 17:20:29 -0500, Richards.Bob [EMAIL

Re: z/OS 1.6 Withdrawal Date

2006-02-16 Thread Steve Comstock
Dave Kopischke wrote: That's the basis for the question. Waaay back when IBM was talking about an annual release schedule, they announced a four release support policy. I'm not seeing that now. Maybe I'm not reading the dates right ??? I'd have to do some searching just to come up with the doc I

Re: z/OS 1.6 Withdrawal Date

2006-02-16 Thread Ted MacNEIL
That's the basis for the question. Waaay back when IBM was talking about an annual release schedule, they announced a four release support policy. I'm not seeing that now. Maybe I'm not reading the dates right ??? I'd have to do some searching just to come up with the doc I think I read that in.

Re: z/OS 1.6 Withdrawal Date

2006-02-16 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Yes, we're at 1.4. I'm hesitant to go to anything too new for stability reasons. I think that's a specious response. z/OS (and OS/390 before it) has been very stable! I'm trying to get to 1.7 as quickly as possible! - -teD I’m an enthusiastic proselytiser of the universal panacea I believe

Re: z/OS 1.6 Withdrawal Date

2006-02-16 Thread Dave Kopischke
I knew I didn't dream this: http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg245976.pdf OS/390 supports the coexistence of up to four consecutive releases. While the four-release coexistence policy applies to JES2, the fact that a JES2 installation can be staged has been taken into account in

Re: z/OS 1.6 Withdrawal Date

2006-02-16 Thread Steve Comstock
Dave Kopischke wrote: I knew I didn't dream this: Ah, good for you. But notice that it's OS/390, when releases came every six months; I'll bet there's a later announcement around the time z/OS was announced changing that. [But I don't know for sure, and I wouldn't want to bet on it!] Kind

Re: z/OS 1.6 Withdrawal Date

2006-02-16 Thread Robert Justice
I guess I'm not sure what the issue is, z/OS 1.6 came out september 2004, it goes away september 2007 we upgraded from 1.3 to 1.4, then from 1.4 to 1.6, and are now in planning stages for a 1.6 to 1.8 upgrade Also, This was announced awhile ago ,.replacement of coexistence policy

Backup of Offline Data (at a remote site)

2006-02-16 Thread Michael Pratt
We have recently implemented a DR solution involving disk replication and remote tape. All is working well. What we would like to do now is extend the use of this infrastructure to provide a real business benefit (as opposed to just DR), specifically we would like to leverage the snapshot copy

Re: HSM Question

2006-02-16 Thread Ron and Jenny Hawkins
Andy, I'm not really sure what you mean by that. An MCDS record is an MCDS record; a BDCDS record is a BCDS record; a TTOC is a TTOC; etc, so I'm not really sure what pollution you are talking about. I suggested it because it is how I've seen large LPARS merged in the past. Once you merge the

Re: HSM Question

2006-02-16 Thread Andy White
Ron - But if you take over company XYZ and merge into your HSM control and a user wants to recall a dsn how do you handle it assuming they dont have the same HLQ? Meaning do you define all the alias's from XYZ company on your system and the correct racf rules? To me this would be the

Re: HSM Question II

2006-02-16 Thread Andy White
Terry -= Would that include VSAM datasets and components? Thanks Andy S White Internet: Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Andy, You can recover and rename datasets directly from the ABARS backup dataset. I would refer you to the HSM Implementation and Customization Guide and the DSS

Re: HSM Question II

2006-02-16 Thread Traylor, Terry
SPHERE Terry Traylor charlesSCHWAB TIS Mainframe Storage Management Remedy Queue: tis-mfs-storage (602) 977-5154 WARNING: All email sent to or from this address will be received by the Charles Schwab corporate e-mail system and is subject to archival and review by someone other than the

Re: Backup of Offline Data (at a remote site)

2006-02-16 Thread Ron and Jenny Hawkins
Sigh!!! If FICON was real Fibre Channel you could use server less backup. Basically the host sends a read request to the storage, and the data goes directly to the tape drive through the SAN. But it's FICON :( Do your full volume backups have to be on tape for any reason? If you have HDS USP

Re: Backup of Offline Data (at a remote site)

2006-02-16 Thread Michael Pratt
Ron, Thanks for your response, and yes, I agree with your comments about 'real' FC vs FICON. It is a little frustrating. Yes, it is a USP at the remote site, and we will be trialling the virtualisation of SATA (in a 9585) starting next week...agree that this could be the best (read Only)

Re: z/OS 1.6 Withdrawal Date

2006-02-16 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
Dave Kopischke wrote: I knew I didn't dream this: http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg245976.pdf OS/390 supports the coexistence of up to four consecutive releases... [snip] This information applies to OS/390 only. The rules for z/OS have changed. Now, the support and coexistence

Re: IRD Ficon Native/Director

2006-02-16 Thread Skip Robinson
I raised the protocol question at an IRD pitch at SHARE back when we were first getting into FICON. The answer was that customers didn't seem very interested FICON support. When I got back to the ranch, I learned why. FICON is so darned fast that switching resources from one LPAR to another

Re: HSM Question II

2006-02-16 Thread Traylor, Terry
Andy, You could limit your selection to VSAM via the BY sub parameter in the DSS parms. BY( - (DSORG EQ VSAM) - )) - SPHERE is used to get all comoments of a VSAM cluster including AIXs. Terry Traylor charlesSCHWAB TIS Mainframe Storage Management Remedy

Re: HSM Question

2006-02-16 Thread Ron and Jenny Hawkins
Andy, In your original post I didn't realise you wanted to rename the datasets. Merging would mean that you don't have to rename anything. Copies of the current catalogs would have to be imported into your system and appropriate RACF rules defined. If it is for archive purposes then I don't

Re: HSM Question II

2006-02-16 Thread Andy White
Terry - Again im not a storage expert but here is my understanding and I dont think I am explaining this correctly. Its my understanding its the dump/restore of migrated dsns is where HSM cant rename VSAM dsns. Im told this is because HSM doent store the components only the cluster

Re: Redirecting Software Functionality

2006-02-16 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 16, 2006, at 2:51 PM, Chris Mason wrote: Ed, When I was last on a long-term consultancy, by example, I tried to encourage a crude approach to documenting responsibility - and purpose - in a common library by creating a member $$$INDEX. Each line in this member started with the

Re: Redirecting Software Functionality

2006-02-16 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 16, 2006, at 3:35 PM, Hal Merritt wrote: SMF 30 records usually contain a program name. Do some chargeback. Hit 'em in the budget. One cool thing about this solution is that your customer base may deem it enough of a business need to pay the freight. I have always been in

Re: z/OS 1.6 Withdrawal Date

2006-02-16 Thread Skip Robinson
Dave, This may be what you looked at. It's what we publicize to our clients in order to nurture an appropriate fear of god. ;-) I've heard no suggestion of any deviation from this chart: it's curtains for 1.6 in 3Q07--only six months after the demise of 1.4.

Pod slurping?

2006-02-16 Thread Ed Finnell
Guess I'm not surprised. Why is this any different from a Laptop? Maybe it's just smaller and easier to conceal. _http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/dw_blog.jspa?blog=533ca=dnw-706_ (http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/dw_blog.jspa?blog=533ca=dnw-706)

Re: Redirecting Software Functionality

2006-02-16 Thread tony babonas
I hasten to clarify, we restrict program usage, in our case SAS, by restricting the load library from which it is executed, for example our permission was written as follows: TSS PER( SASPROF ) DSN( HLQ.SAS.LOADLIB ) ACCESS(FETCH) SYSID(ESYS) Since our search algorithm is merge, all merge users

Re: Redirecting Software Functionality

2006-02-16 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 16, 2006, at 10:07 PM, tony babonas wrote: I hasten to clarify, we restrict program usage, in our case SAS, by restricting the load library from which it is executed, for example our permission was written as follows: TSS PER( SASPROF ) DSN( HLQ.SAS.LOADLIB ) ACCESS(FETCH) SYSID(ESYS)

Re: z/OS 1.6 Withdrawal Date

2006-02-16 Thread Timothy Sipples
I know of one customer that's been in production on z/OS 1.6 since September 1, 2004. (Maybe they read this list.) That's 23 days before GA, so I guess z/OS is doing pretty well in the stability and quality department. :-) Anyone want to see if they can set a new production record of 24 days

Re: Backup of Offline Data (at a remote site)

2006-02-16 Thread Timothy Sipples
z/VSE, Linux, and z/VM now support FCP as well as FICON, so IBM has been fairly busy of late. The technology issues are not exactly trivial for z/OS, so let's see what happens over time. - - - - - Timothy F. Sipples Consulting Enterprise Software Architect, z9/zSeries IBM Japan, Ltd. E-Mail: