Is anyone out there using HSM and the CDS are managed via RLS?

2007-04-04 Thread Jason Cai
Hi all Our shop is Z/OS 1.8. We want to implement HSMplex(4 members).we will also implement DR in the future. We are not sure whethere we need RLS for accessing the control data sets. Could you tell us the advantage and disadvantage of RLS ? Is there any limition for the HSM CDS managed

Is anyone out there using HSM and the CDS are managed via RLS?

2007-04-04 Thread mvsmain
Hi all Our shop is Z/OS 1.8. We want to implement HSMplex(4 members).we will also implement DR in the future. We are not sure whethere we need RLS for accessing the control data sets. Could you tell us the advantage and disadvantage of RLS ? Is there any limition for the HSM CDS

Re: Is anyone out there using HSM and the CDS are managed via RLS?

2007-04-04 Thread John Ticic
-- snip -- Our shop is Z/OS 1.8. We want to implement HSMplex(4 members).we will also implement DR in the future. We are not sure whethere we need RLS for accessing the control data sets. Could you tell us the advantage and disadvantage of RLS ? Is there any limition for the HSM CDS managed

Re: IBM to the PCM market

2007-04-04 Thread Shane
On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 21:58 -0400, Pinnacle wrote: As far as the mainframe skills shortage goes, I can only conclude that IBM's refusal to make z/OS affordable for people to run on their own hardware (like a PC) means that the only ones left with enough wherewithal to employ and train

CA-LIBRARIAN...

2007-04-04 Thread thomas . berg
As I have lost my old valuable (some criminal have been there...) xrefs for what is now called CA-LIBRARIAN, I'm wondering if someone can either point me to a link that have the (batch) commands documented or can send me the docs. I'm talking about commands/parms like -OPT GPO, -SCAN,

Re: Control-O replacement

2007-04-04 Thread Bill Johnson
Ted, It monitors the syslog and performs actions based on messages or alerts. We also use it to suppress messages and perform IPL functions. It also sends emails out when it detects abends. Bill Johnson Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are looking at replacing Control-O I always

Re: How to transfer PDSE libraries?

2007-04-04 Thread wtrovijo
Have you tried ADRDSSU DUMP/RESTORE? You didn't say how far one system is from the other, but depending on the distance you can DUMP to a sequential dataset, ftp it to remote system (binary) and then RESTORE. If both systems are in the same datacenter I'd write it to tape or virtual tape.

Re: Is anyone out there using HSM and the CDS are managed via RLS?

2007-04-04 Thread Knutson, Sam
http://www.share.org/client_files/proceedings/Anaheim_Mar2000/DATA/S3034 .PDF Skip Robinson (SCE) presented a user experience at SHARE in March of 2000 Session 3034 RLS Marries HSM. This has some good notes. Skip might even chime in with any more recent experience. Thanks, Sam

Re: IBM to the PCM market

2007-04-04 Thread Steve Comstock
Shane wrote: On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 21:58 -0400, Pinnacle wrote: As far as the mainframe skills shortage goes, I can only conclude that IBM's refusal to make z/OS affordable for people to run on their own hardware (like a PC) means that the only ones left with enough wherewithal to employ

Re: IBM to the PCM market

2007-04-04 Thread Shane
On Wed, 2007-04-04 at 06:03 -0600, Steve Comstock wrote: I asked a couple of the speakers about FLEX, PSI, Hercules, etc. conundrum. The response was, basically, my lips are sealed with an implication that the issue will be addressed, maybe even soon. But _no_ indication in which direction

Re: CA-LIBRARIAN...

2007-04-04 Thread Bill Dodge
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote: As I have lost my old valuable (some criminal have been there...) xrefs for what is now called CA-LIBRARIAN, I'm wondering if someone can either point me to a link that have the (batch) commands documented or can send me the

Re: IBM to the PCM market

2007-04-04 Thread Pinnacle
- Original Message - From: Shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 4:46 AM Subject: Re: IBM to the PCM market On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 21:58 -0400, Pinnacle wrote: As far as the mainframe skills shortage goes, I can only conclude that

Re: IBM to the PCM market

2007-04-04 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 7:30 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM to the PCM market On Apr 3, 2007, at 5:11 PM, Marcia Harelik wrote: IBM is not killing off

Re: How to transfer PDSE libraries?

2007-04-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, wtrovijo said: Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 08:26:00 -0300 Have you tried ADRDSSU DUMP/RESTORE? You didn't say how far one system is fr om the other, but depending on the distance you can DUMP to a sequential dat aset, ftp it to remote system (binary) and then RESTORE. If

Transferring DFDSS dumps via ftp (was: RE: How to transfer PDSE libraries?)

2007-04-04 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 8:07 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How to transfer PDSE libraries? In a recent note, wtrovijo said: Date: Wed, 4

Re: IBM to the PCM market

2007-04-04 Thread Ken Porowski
Actually my 'Conspiracy theory' was meant to be tongue in cheek. I need another 20+ years as a Mainframe sysprog before retirement so it better last at least that long ... -Original Message- Marcia Harelik IBM is not killing off the mainframe. Quite the contrary. What makes you think

Re: CA-LIBRARIAN...

2007-04-04 Thread Liliane L. Clever
The CA web site has documentation you can download. Liliane At 05:31 AM 4/4/2007, you wrote: As I have lost my old valuable (some criminal have been there...) xrefs for what is now called CA-LIBRARIAN, I'm wondering if someone can either point me to a link that have the (batch) commands

Re: IBM to the PCM market

2007-04-04 Thread Staller, Allan
snip Actually my 'Conspiracy theory' was meant to be tongue in cheek. I need another 20+ years as a Mainframe sysprog before retirement so it better last at least that long ... /snip Impudent youn whippersnapper!!! G -- For

Re: IBM to the PCM market

2007-04-04 Thread Rick Fochtman
--snip- Like a few others here on the list I'm pretty sure IBM must have an emulation (simulation, whatever) product. Possibly just about to escape from the labs into public view. There is no way they can leave their own staff swinging in the

SV: CA-LIBRARIAN...

2007-04-04 Thread thomas . berg
Thanks all that responded! :) I got the Command ref in PDF and other manuals in Softcopy Librarian format. (Which I'm trying to install.) As the Command ref answers my current needs I'm afloat. (CA site requires id and pswd that I didn't remember so I tried the fast lane... :) )

z9BC HMC - Remote access?

2007-04-04 Thread Tim Hare
On our boxes, the HMC has been on a private network, it's not exposed to our LAN - which means I have to go into the data center to do HMC functions of course. I was always wary of having my HMC on a network visible to others - but it seems many are doing it. What makes it secure enough for

Re: z9BC HMC - Remote access?

2007-04-04 Thread Jack Kelly
in our case it's inside the firewall, so access is via vpn software that can get inside of the firewall Jack Kelly LA Systems @ US Courts x 202-502-2390 Tim Hare [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 04/04/2007 09:48 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe

Re: IBM to the PCM market

2007-04-04 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 08:37:57 -0500, Rick Fochtman wrote: on account of what Shane wrote: --snip- Like a few others here on the list I'm pretty sure IBM must have an emulation (simulation, whatever) product. Possibly just about to escape from the

Re: IBM to the PCM market

2007-04-04 Thread Paul Gillis
Rick Fochtman wrote: --snip- Like a few others here on the list I'm pretty sure IBM must have an emulation (simulation, whatever) product. Possibly just about to escape from the labs into public view. There is no way they can leave their own

Re: IBM to the PCM market (JBOSS vs WAS)

2007-04-04 Thread Barkow, Eileen
John, Do you want to know what the real difference is between JBOSS and WAS besides the cost: JBOSS WORKS!!! And i am not joking. I have not had any luck with any of the WAS appservers except for the freebee IBM gives called 'Community Edition' which is really a suped up version of TOMCAT.

Re: IBM to the PCM market

2007-04-04 Thread Shane
On Wed, 2007-04-04 at 08:57 -0500, Tom Schmidt wrote: Given that the FLEX-ES licenses expired last October and given that Early Support Programs are (lately anyway) often 6 months in duration... I take it that the commercial FLEX licenses were for 3 years - don't know about the PID

Re: z9BC HMC - Remote access?

2007-04-04 Thread Brad Carson
Tim, We are using the same Firewall/VPN solution here as well. Brad S. Carson Manager z/Series Technical Support Enterprise Systems Laboratory Corporation of America (336) 436-8294 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/4/2007 9:55 AM in our case it's inside the firewall, so access is via vpn software that

Re: z9BC HMC - Remote access?

2007-04-04 Thread Patrick Lyon
On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 09:55:00 -0400, Jack Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in our case it's inside the firewall, so access is via vpn software that can get inside of the firewall Jack Kelly LA Systems @ US Courts x 202-502-2390 Same here. I might add that this is our DR machine in our remote

Re: IBM to the PCM market

2007-04-04 Thread Howard Brazee
On 3 Apr 2007 14:54:28 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Gilmartin) wrote: Ah, but it was easier to migrate from Studebaker to Rambler or Dodge than from z/OS to Windows. In the most ruthless scenario, the vendor continues to serve an ever-dwindling captive customer base at ever-increasing unit

Re: IBM to the PCM market

2007-04-04 Thread Ed Gould
On Apr 4, 2007, at 8:05 AM, McKown, John wrote: ---SNIP--- Marcia, They killed off TSO didn't they? Ed TSO is still here. Granted it is now really only a platform to support ISPF. But ISPF is getting new goodies fairly regularly. I mean,

Re: IBM to the PCM market

2007-04-04 Thread Jon Brock
I doubt it. Someone on this very list -- Phil Payne, maybe? -- has pointed out that mainframe software margins are a large part of the total profit IBM rakes in. Jon snip I suspect instead, it wants us to have huge, secure, database machines that are fast and use up less energy than Windows

Re: z9BC HMC - Remote access?

2007-04-04 Thread William Bishop
Our HMC is inside our internal network. If I am not at work, I can access it via our VPN. Access to the HMC itself is protected by Userid and Passwords defined on the HMC. The IBM provided default userids and passwords are marked as not being eligible for remote access. Thanks Bill Bishop

Re: IBM to the PCM market

2007-04-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Howard Brazee said: Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 08:19:56 -0600 I suspect instead, it wants us to have huge, secure, database machines that are fast and use up less energy than Windows farms - ... If we get to the stage where we don't care about the OS (just as Mac

Re: z9BC HMC - Remote access?

2007-04-04 Thread Ted MacNEIL
We do not allow remote access to our production cec. That is just a little too scary for me. I don't see why! IGS, Canada did for many customers. They encouraged staff to work from home. So, a VPN/Firewall/Certificate solution was used by the support staff to update HMC parms remotely. - Too

Re: IBM to the PCM market

2007-04-04 Thread Marcia Harelik
Software margins are higher than hw margins. Any software that IBM sells, not just mf sw, will yield more profit than selling hw. IBM is certainly not acting like a company that wants to divest itself of a product line such as the mainframe. Acquisitions like Candle, Vanguard and Consul

Re: IBM to the PCM market

2007-04-04 Thread Schramm, Rob
I have to admit.. I find this all pretty depressing. Initially, I thought IBM was right to trounce PSI. The thought of someone muscling in on z's bread-and-butter seemed ludicrous. However, with the Flex deal falling, no emulator type access allowed... the future looks dim indeed. I consider

Re: IBM to the PCM market

2007-04-04 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 08:57:33 -0500, Tom Schmidt wrote: IBM traditionally makes hardware announcements of that ilk around the May or September timeframe. ...snip... But if I was going to be pinned to a date I would put it towards the end of May (22nd or 29th). (May 15th would make me wrong I

Need help with FTP error

2007-04-04 Thread Hal Merritt
Trying to get secure FTP running, getting FC0702 authServer: secure_socket_init failed with rc = 438 (Internal error reported by remote partner) Any clues? Thanks. NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity

Re: How to transfer PDSE libraries?

2007-04-04 Thread Taylor, Clarence B
I use to TERSE the sequential file from ADRDSSU, ftp it, UNTERSE it and then restore. I found it very nice, much more convenient than xmit. If I remember correctly it even does VSAM but its been awhile so I'm not sure. There was some operand on the restore to allow me to change the name of the

ADR793E -PDSE indicators in the VTOC and VVDS do not match

2007-04-04 Thread Alvaro Quintupray B.
Hi. Can I modify the VTOC to change the attributes of a file? .. how? Someone has done it ..? I will be grateful for any help. Thanks. Alvaro. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: z9BC HMC - Remote access?

2007-04-04 Thread Hal Merritt
We use a private network for such. The private network is bridged from the remote site to the local site giving us full remote control. We actually use two private networks. The most loved CEC is isolated. We are considering a VPN type solution for external access. We experimented with dial

Re: ADR793E -PDSE indicators in the VTOC and VVDS do not match

2007-04-04 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alvaro Quintupray B. Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 10:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: ADR793E -PDSE indicators in the VTOC and VVDS do not match Hi. Can I modify the VTOC

Re: How to transfer PDSE libraries?

2007-04-04 Thread Ed Gould
On Apr 4, 2007, at 6:26 AM, wtrovijo wrote: Have you tried ADRDSSU DUMP/RESTORE? You didn't say how far one system is from the other, but depending on the distance you can DUMP to a sequential dataset, ftp it to remote system (binary) and then RESTORE. If both systems are in the same

IBM to the PCM market(the sky is falling!!!the sky is falling!!)

2007-04-04 Thread David Day
I am the first one to admit that IBM has made some monumental blunders vis-a-vis mainframes and the market place. But to state that they are deliberately and intentionally doing anything to harm the market is ludicrous. The fight with PSI is all about whether or not the platform that runs

Re: IBM to the PCM market

2007-04-04 Thread Dave Salt
From: Schramm, Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would ask all of the listers to strongly indicate to their IBM reps that the lack of a strong developer population for z/OS will ultimately lead to it's demise. The ability to develop on the platform at a reasonable cost, keeps the platform viable. I know

Re: ADR793E -PDSE indicators in the VTOC and VVDS do not match

2007-04-04 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 10:57:45 -0500, Alvaro Quintupray B. wrote: Can I modify the VTOC to change the attributes of a file? .. how? What release of z/OS are you currently operating? -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI -- For

Re: ADR793E -PDSE indicators in the VTOC and VVDS do not match

2007-04-04 Thread Alvaro Quintupray
ZOS 1.6 Atte. Alvaro -Mensaje original- De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Tom Schmidt Enviado el: MiƩrcoles, 04 de Abril de 2007 12:49 Para: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Asunto: Re: ADR793E -PDSE indicators in the VTOC and VVDS do not match On Wed, 4

Re: IBM to the PCM market

2007-04-04 Thread Tom Moulder
I'm with you, Shane. I can tell already that the wrong people at IBM are listening. It doesn't matter what marketing types say, just what executive management does. Tom Moulder -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shane Sent:

Re: ADR793E -PDSE indicators in the VTOC and VVDS do not match

2007-04-04 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 12:54:39 -0400, Alvaro Quintupray wrote: -Mensaje original- De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List En nombre de Tom Schmidt Enviado el: MiƩrcoles, 04 de Abril de 2007 12:49 Asunto: Re: ADR793E -PDSE indicators in the VTOC and VVDS do not match On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 10:57:45

Re: Need help with FTP error

2007-04-04 Thread Gray, Larry - Larry A
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Re: IBM to the PCM market

2007-04-04 Thread Tom Moulder
snip However the (internal) IBM licenses were for 12 months, and they have been falling off since last November. I know some IBM folks that have laptops that are now somewhat less useful than they were. Something has to pop out of the woodwork - sooner rather than later is my guess. Shane ...

Re: IBM to the PCM market

2007-04-04 Thread Ron Wells
IBM has had one big problem.not intouch with the peopletokenring/os2 just a couple items they messed up... only if the $ did not get in front of them they would have had all the $ they wanted...Uguess what marketing group did that for someone back in early 80's...

Re: IBM to the PCM market

2007-04-04 Thread Eric Bielefeld
I was just thinking while reading Marcia's post quoted below that what she said made a lot of sense. Then I noticed what could be a bias, as she works for IBM. Actually, what she said still makes sense. Is she taking over for Timothy Sipples? The one thing about the whole Flex-ES thing

Re: IBM to the PCM market(the sky is falling!!!the sky is falling!!)

2007-04-04 Thread Howard Brazee
On 4 Apr 2007 09:44:38 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Day) wrote: If PSI wins, and IBM is forced to license z/OS on any platform, who is going to be driving the train? Someone has to. In my opinion, what will kill the mainframe is if the market becomes a commodities market where anyone can

Re: IBM to the PCM market(the sky is falling!!!the sky is falling!!)

2007-04-04 Thread Craddock, Chris
David Day says I am the first one to admit that IBM has made some monumental blunders vis-a-vis mainframes and the market place. But to state that they are deliberately and intentionally doing anything to harm the market is ludicrous. I don't think anyone really believes they are

Contract Rates

2007-04-04 Thread Eric Bielefeld
I have a possibility of a long 3 year contract as a sysprog in another state. I was wondering how other people set a rate, and what they do about the house they own. As long as I am a contractor, I don't want to sell my house in the Milwaukee area. Since the last contract job I was on (my

Re: IBM to the PCM market

2007-04-04 Thread Howard Brazee
On 4 Apr 2007 07:29:23 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Brock) wrote: snip I suspect instead, it wants us to have huge, secure, database machines that are fast and use up less energy than Windows farms - and IBM doesn't care how we choose to display the data on our desktops. And it would be quite

Re: How to transfer PDSE libraries?

2007-04-04 Thread wtrovijo
Somewhere along the line I had heard that ADRDSSU uses other IBM utilities to access various datasets. Like IDCAMS for vsam datasets and IEBCOPY for PDS(e)'s *IF* that is the case then why not use IEBCOPY ? Ed The idea of using DUMP/RESTORE was just because it's easier to dump

Re: IBM to the PCM market

2007-04-04 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 3 Apr 2007 17:11:06 -0500, Marcia Harelik wrote: IBM is not killing off the mainframe. Quite the contrary. What makes you think that? IBM is investing deeply in technology improvements and advancements. Ten years ago, IBM said they were not killing off OS/2. Today, IBM is most

Re: IBM to the PCM market

2007-04-04 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
Howard Brazee wrote: OK, as long as it uses its system.Customers aren't interested in operating systems. Customers are interested in the total cost of the whole package. Now, IBM has to take extra care to not be bundling, but it can work with partners to do this.We want a secure,

Time Change at IPL

2007-04-04 Thread Thomas Raskin
Am interested in knowing if most people still IPL for time change - spring and fall - and if anyone does not, how they handle this. Thanks, Tom -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: IBM to the PCM market(the sky is falling!!!the sky is falling!!)

2007-04-04 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Day Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 12:46 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: IBM to the PCM market(the sky is falling!!!the sky is falling!!) SNIP It is surely true that IBM has been

Re: Time Change at IPL

2007-04-04 Thread Lance Kopplin
Am interested in knowing if most people still IPL for time change - spring and fall - and if anyone does not, how they handle this. Thanks, Tom We did something interesting, and had an interesting problem as a result. Because of data center consolidation we had mainframes in the same room

Re: ADR793E -PDSE indicators in the VTOC and VVDS do not match

2007-04-04 Thread John Laubenheimer
This is really a [EMAIL PROTECTED] guess here, and may need Mark Thomen to chime in here. It sounds like you might have a duplicate NVR in the VVDS on the volume. Try to salvage what you can from the PDSE in question by copying it to another dataset with a different name on a different

Re: Time Change at IPL

2007-04-04 Thread Edward Jaffe
Thomas Raskin wrote: Am interested in knowing if most people still IPL for time change - spring and fall - and if anyone does not, how they handle this. We would never IPL for anything so trivial. In our case, we simply issue 'SET TIMEZONE=' twice per year to change local time by one hour.

Re: Time Change at IPL

2007-04-04 Thread Mark Pace
On 4/4/07, Lance Kopplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am interested in knowing if most people still IPL for time change - spring and fall - and if anyone does not, how they handle this. Thanks, Tom Simply SET CLOCK=xxx then change CLOCKxx in parmlib just in case we do IPL. -- Mark

Re: IBM to the PCM market(the sky is falling!!!the sky is falling!!)

2007-04-04 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 11:45:37 -0600, David Day wrote: ... In my opinion, what will kill the mainframe is if the market becomes a commodities market where anyone can buy a $500 pc and get a license to run z/OS. Funny, that is pretty close to the market that pushed OS/2 out of the way and

Re: Need help with FTP error

2007-04-04 Thread Hal Merritt
I am using RACF. I am running traces. The only trace entries are: 234 Security environment established - ready for negotiation FC0702 authServer: secure_socket_init failed with rc = 438 EZA2897I Authentication negotiation failed I sure wished the fine doc were usable. IBM searches also

Re: Time Change at IPL

2007-04-04 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Raskin Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 12:41 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Time Change at IPL Am interested in knowing if most people still IPL for time change - spring

Re: Time Change at IPL

2007-04-04 Thread Jack Kelly
snip Am interested in knowing if most people still IPL for time change - spring and fall - and if anyone does not, how they handle this. snip The problem is not simply changing the time. The 'set timezone' parm [et al] makes this rather painless.The change is especially easy in the spring

Re: Need help with FTP error

2007-04-04 Thread Gray, Larry - Larry A
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Re: Time Change at IPL

2007-04-04 Thread Patrick Lyon
On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 12:40:36 -0500, Thomas Raskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am interested in knowing if most people still IPL for time change - spring and fall - and if anyone does not, how they handle this. Thanks, Tom I would like to take this question one step further - for any shop that

Re: Time Change at IPL

2007-04-04 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 13:39:05 -0500, Patrick Lyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 12:40:36 -0500, Thomas Raskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am interested in knowing if most people still IPL for time change - spring and fall - and if anyone does not, how they handle this. Thanks, Tom I

Re: IBM to the PCM market(the sky is falling!!!the sky is falling!!)

2007-04-04 Thread Marcia Harelik
May I posit this theory? In the market today are 3 kinds of computers: Intel-based, Unix-based, and the MF. Each of these is designed to do certain kinds of task and have certain strengths. To use a sports analogy, the Intel-based computers win the 100-yard dash. They are built for speed.

Re: IBM to the PCM market(the sky is falling!!!the sky is falling !!)

2007-04-04 Thread Alan Brown
-Original Message- From: Marcia Harelik SNIP It's all about right fit and balanced workload within an IT environment. What's the tipping point? When should a company move from Unix to MF? Or from Intel to Unix? What's the right mix of computers and TCO? Really hard UNSNIP I think you

Re: IBM to the PCM market(the sky is falling!!!the sky is falling!!)

2007-04-04 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcia Harelik Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 1:46 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM to the PCM market(the sky is falling!!!the sky is falling!!) SNIP Getting back to Steve's point

Re: Need help with FTP error

2007-04-04 Thread Chris Mason
Hal Have you followed the Google trail? If so, what were your results? I just have. The only reference to the character string Internal error reported by remote partner associated with the code 438 is in a manual Websphere MQ for z/OS Messages and Codes, Version 6.0, GC34-6602-00. Following

Re: IBM to the PCM market(the sky is falling!!!the sky is falling!!)

2007-04-04 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Thompson, Steve [ snip ] Sometimes I think IBM couldn't market ice-cubes to dwellers of the Sahara desert. But maybe in acre-foot chunks, or whole icebergs. -jc-

RACF and Member Level Protection

2007-04-04 Thread Steven Conway
CA Top Secret supports member level security in a PDS or PDSE, allowing a variance of access authority to users of the dataset versus an individual member. We have that plugged in. A few months ago, there was a problem that led me to open an issue with Top Secret to verify what they do, and

Re: How to transfer PDSE libraries?

2007-04-04 Thread Ed Gould
On Apr 4, 2007, at 12:40 PM, wtrovijo wrote: Somewhere along the line I had heard that ADRDSSU uses other IBM utilities to access various datasets. Like IDCAMS for vsam datasets and IEBCOPY for PDS(e)'s *IF* that is the case then why not use IEBCOPY ? Ed The idea of using DUMP/RESTORE was

Re: IBM to the PCM market(the sky is falling!!!the sky is falling!!)

2007-04-04 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
Tom Schmidt wrote: Funny, that is pretty close to the market that pushed OS/2 out of the way and brought us Microsoft's Windows. ISTM IBM should learn from the OS/2 fiasco and do unto MS what MS did unto IBM (with Windows). Why shouldn't z/OS be able to compete with MS Vista? (How in

Re: How to transfer PDSE libraries?

2007-04-04 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 2:37 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How to transfer PDSE libraries? snip True but IEHMOVE does this as well . The output is 80/800

Re: RACF and Member Level Protection

2007-04-04 Thread Tim Hare
RACF does not protect individual members - and I don't see how Top Secret does either. SAF is called from OPEN, which is a dataset-level, not member-level function. Top Secret could of course intercept BLDL and STOW to provide some sort of member security - but I think those intercepts

Re: IBM to the PCM market(the sky is falling!!!the sky is falling !!)

2007-04-04 Thread Alan Brown
[ snip ] Sometimes I think IBM couldn't market ice-cubes to dwellers of the Sahara desert. But maybe in acre-foot chunks, or whole icebergs. After all, not all companies need an iceberg and companies that market to industries that use icebergs don't need access to a small iceberg to

Re: IBM to the PCM market(the sky is falling!!!the sky is falling!!)

2007-04-04 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Which is a good reason for IBM to not be in the business of selling an operating system. And, what would you use to run all your mainframe apps and sub-systems on? Air? - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN

Adrdssu Reorg of KSDS files

2007-04-04 Thread Carl Edwards
I have a client that wants to move from Faver to ADRDSSU. A question arose re the reorging of VSAM files. The question is. Using ADRDSSU for Backup and Restore, will the files be reorged on the Retore? The manual states fairly clearly that using ADRDSSU to COPY files will reult in a reorg, could

Re: RACF and Member Level Protection

2007-04-04 Thread R.S.
Steve, RACF does not support member-level protection. It was widely discussed several times on RACF-L. IBM claims such protection can be circumvented (which I agree), however it's not easy (and maybe that's why it would be worth to be implemented). An exemption from Security Administrator

Re: IBM to the PCM market(the sky is falling!!!the sky is falling!!)

2007-04-04 Thread Ray Mullins
Marcia, You are addressing only one facet of the situation, one that does make economic sense for businesses, and I have no quibble with that. (Although, as Steve further expanded, RAS comes into play, and maybe the mainframe entry point should be lower than it is currently perceived). But by

Re: IBM to the PCM market(the sky is falling!!!the sky is falling !!)

2007-04-04 Thread Richard Pinion
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Alan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM to the PCM market(the sky is falling!!!the sky is falling !!) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 15:52:35 -0400 [ snip ] Sometimes I think IBM couldn't market ice-cubes to

Re: IBM to the PCM market(the sky is falling!!!the sky is falling !!)

2007-04-04 Thread Richard Pinion
Didn't StorageTek market Iceberg already? --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Alan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM to the PCM market(the sky is falling!!!the sky is falling !!) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 15:52:35 -0400 [ snip ] Sometimes

Re: Time Change at IPL

2007-04-04 Thread McKnight, Lee
We IPL once per month, so in the Spring and Fall we do the monthly IPL at time change, and use IEASYS CLOCk=DT/CT for Daylight Time/Central Time to set the TIMEZONE offset. Regards, Mac. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

Delete alias in DSLIST?

2007-04-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
Why not? Grrr. -- gil -- StorageTek INFORMATION made POWERFUL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at

Re: Delete alias in DSLIST?

2007-04-04 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 3:15 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Delete alias in DSLIST? Why not? Grrr. Uh? What did you try? And do you mean a dataset

Re: Delete alias in DSLIST?

2007-04-04 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Why not? Line command DEL / ALIAS PURGE works for catalog aliases. Haven't tried it for dataset aliases because we don't have any. -jc-

Re: Is anyone out there using HSM and the CDS are managed via RLS?

2007-04-04 Thread Friske, Michael
We have been using RLS for our HSM CDS's for over 8 years. It is very beneficial for a sysplex when there are more than 3 systems in the sysplex. With less than 3, there are not as many benefits. There are 2 main benefits 1) Things like Autobackup, Primary Space Management, EXPIREBV, RECYCLE,

Re: IBM to the PCM market(the sky is falling!!!the sky is falling!!)

2007-04-04 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray Mullins Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 3:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM to the PCM market(the sky is falling!!!the sky is falling!!) SNIP P.S. And to someone who mentioned

Re: IBM to the PCM market(the sky is falling!!!the sky is falling!!)

2007-04-04 Thread Howard Brazee
On 4 Apr 2007 12:59:00 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ted MacNEIL) wrote: Which is a good reason for IBM to not be in the business of selling an operating system. And, what would you use to run all your mainframe apps and sub-systems on? Air? The OS is a tool for that IBM uses to produce its real

Re: IBM to the PCM market(the sky is falling!!!the sky is falling!!)

2007-04-04 Thread Ray Mullins
Steve, About 3 years ago, when I worked at CIMS Lab, Inc. (now part of IBM as Tivoli UAM) and got a FLEX-ES through PWD, we were told explicitly what I mentioned, by both resellers. Later, Ray -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

Re: Delete alias in DSLIST?

2007-04-04 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 15:19:36 -0500, Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Why not? Line command DEL / ALIAS PURGE works for catalog aliases. Haven't tried it for dataset aliases because we don't have

Re: Contract Rates

2007-04-04 Thread Clark, Kevin
Eric, Go to Realrates.com For a idea on what others are getting. Kevin -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives

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