pcom 5.7 IN Terminal server 2008/X64

2009-07-14 Thread Itschak Mugzach
We tried to connect a remote user using Terminal server 2003/X32 with PCOM 5.7 and it worked fine. We encountered some error messages while trying the same under Terminal Server 2008/X64: The PDLC Mapper service depends on the PDLC X.25 service which failed to start because of the following

Trace open/close

2009-07-14 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi I would like to trace open/close calls and see the DCB, and open/close options for a given program. Any proper SLIP set to trace OPNE CLOSE ONPEN TYPE=J CLOSE TYPE=J with all the paramters ? -- Miklos Szigetvari Development Team ISIS Information Systems Gmbh tel: (+43) 2236 27551 570

Re: Delete Tape Datasets

2009-07-14 Thread Chris Edwards
Firstly, with me struggling to spell DB2 let alone know the zparms by heart, is there not a way to set a different expiry date for each of the logs? Failing that, IIRC (and it's been a few years, so the memory may be a bit hazy) expiry date/retention date doesn't quite work the same way for DASD

Re: VLF CLASS NAME(IKJEXEC)

2009-07-14 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Jochen Roehrig jochen.roeh...@baloise.ch wrote in message news:listserv%200907130958193156.0...@bama.ua.edu... I ran some additional tests: F CATALOG,REPORT,CACHE shows that VLF caches date even with LLA down. LLA with NOFREEZE always returns the actual member. I'll do some further tests

Re: Delete Tape Datasets

2009-07-14 Thread Mike Wood
Ron, So you need a way to have the tape data sets retained for only 1 day and the DASD for 4 days. You can do that with a VRS in RMM. RMM AS DSNAME('DBP1.TEST.D%.T*.**') DAYS COUNT(1) RELEASE (EXPIRYDATEIGNORE) This will override any DB2 specified RETPD and keep the data set for 1 day since

Re: Dataset validation products

2009-07-14 Thread Jan MOEYERSONS
On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:55:59 -0500, Michael Sullivan softwaresales...@gmail.com wrote: Is any one out there aware of a product(s) for the mainframe that would accomplish a generic file validation given a set of rules on a dataset. For example – has a header, has a trailer, record counts,

Re: Lose task authorization

2009-07-14 Thread Walt Farrell
On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 14:35:44 -0500, Rolf Ernst rer...@serena.com wrote: Of course, there would be some sort of exposure if I were still authorized. The question I have is can I remove this authorization temporarily or run this code outside of authorization. At first I thought separate JSTCB but

MSU question z800 vs. z9BC

2009-07-14 Thread John McKown
I am ashamed to have to ask this at all. We currently have a z9BC. A high manager has found what he considers a great deal on a used z800 that he want to convert back when our lease expires. Anyway, does anybody have a pointer to some authoritive documentation which would relate a z9BC MSU to a

Re: MSU question z800 vs. z9BC

2009-07-14 Thread Gene Hudders
Hi: I am not sure why you would want to do this at the end of the lease. Usually the residual value for the box (z9BC) is very low at the end of the lease. Depending on where you are software wise, you may not be able to back level your software to run on z800 and even if you can, there

Re: MSU question z800 vs. z9BC

2009-07-14 Thread R.S.
John McKown pisze: I am ashamed to have to ask this at all. We currently have a z9BC. A high manager has found what he considers a great deal on a used z800 that he want to convert back when our lease expires. There is absolutely no shame IMHO. Anyway, does anybody have a pointer to some

Re: MSU question z800 vs. z9BC

2009-07-14 Thread William Bishop
I thought the MSU calcuations would change to be based on the z800 rate which would be about 19% higher than the z9bc. If they didn't, and you were on variable workload charging, there would be no benefit to moving to the newer boxes. Thanks Bill Bishop Specialist Mainframe Support Group

IODF for FCTC connect with FICON director

2009-07-14 Thread Tommy Tsui
Hi all, I try to defined a FCTC but it always shows no logical path, I double check the following setting but still don't know why? 1. The channel path is defined as long wave - correct 2. IODF setting is copied from first FCTC which is running currently. correct 3. The current ficon director is

Re: MSU question z800 vs. z9BC

2009-07-14 Thread Kammer, Charles
John, We are in the process of going the other way, z800 to z9BC, and were able to justify the move with the software savings that come with the z9. Has anyone informed this manager that the cost will be going up for all IBM software (OS Middleware)? Charles S. Kammer -Original

Re: MSU question z800 vs. z9BC

2009-07-14 Thread Mark Jacobs
Kammer, Charles wrote: John, We are in the process of going the other way, z800 to z9BC, and were able to justify the move with the software savings that come with the z9. Has anyone informed this manager that the cost will be going up for all IBM software (OS Middleware)? Charles

Re: MSU question z800 vs. z9BC

2009-07-14 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:00:38 EDT, Gene Hudders eshudd...@aol.com wrote: Depending on where you are software wise, you may not be able to back level your software to run on z800 and even if you can, there may be a conversion and risks associated with the conversion. Huh? If his software

Re: MSU question z800 vs. z9BC

2009-07-14 Thread Staller, Allan
IIRC, the z800/z890/z900/z990 are near death. I seem to recall the NO CHANGES announcement. i.e. no model conversions or MES's. The z/10's are out and this is 2 hardware generations back. Even in your situation, this seems to be a bad idea. Point out the financial's. The z9/BC is paid for. After

Re: MSU question z800 vs. z9BC

2009-07-14 Thread Horne, Jim - James S
John, Try zPCR. See http://www-03.ibm.com/support/techdocs/atsmastr.nsf/WebIndex/PRS1381 if you don't already have it. Jim Horne Systems Programmer Large Systems Engineering Messaging NC4IT Lowe's Companies, Inc. 1000 Lowe's Boulevard Mooresville, NC 704-758-5354 jim.ho...@lowes.com

Re: MSU question z800 vs. z9BC

2009-07-14 Thread Gene Hudders
Hi Mark: Depending on where you are software wise That is the point and you are assuming that because he is a small shop they are not using any new feature. Regards, Gene In a message dated 7/14/2009 9:23:50 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mark.zel...@zurichna.com writes: Depending on

Re: MSU question z800 vs. z9BC

2009-07-14 Thread John McKown
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:23:20 -0500, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbm1.com wrote: IIRC, the z800/z890/z900/z990 are near death. I seem to recall the NO CHANGES announcement. i.e. no model conversions or MES's. The z/10's are out and this is 2 hardware generations back. Even in your situation,

Re: MSU question z800 vs. z9BC

2009-07-14 Thread John McKown
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:29:34 EDT, Gene Hudders eshudd...@aol.com wrote: Hi Mark: Depending on where you are software wise That is the point and you are assuming that because he is a small shop they are not using any new feature. Regards, Gene We are small and archaic. Basically, CICS VSAM.

Re: IODF for FCTC connect with FICON director

2009-07-14 Thread Field, Alan C.
Tommy, It's been a while since I set up FCTCs. However NO LOGICAL PATH indicates a definition error. CUADD is used to point to the LPAR number that you are trying to connect to if I remember right. Are you trying to connect to LPAR 1? From HCD you can generate a CTC connection report. This is

ICETOOL and SMF record type 119 (TCPIP)

2009-07-14 Thread Bri P
Hi folks Can ICETOOL process variable-length fields where the length of that field is stored in another field in the dataset? TYPE 119, for example, (the one I'm trying to process in this instance) has a definition section at the front that describes, via a number of 'triplet' data items,

Re: MSU question z800 vs. z9BC

2009-07-14 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
John, What about third party software costs? One of the justifications I used back when the z9BC was brand new (read relatively expensive as opposed to my bought-and-paid-for 7060) was that my CA products were about 20% cheaper on the z9. Maintenance costs were less as well. I know that when

Re: MSU question z800 vs. z9BC

2009-07-14 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:29:34 EDT, Gene Hudders eshudd...@aol.com wrote: Hi Mark: Depending on where you are software wise That is the point and you are assuming that because he is a small shop they are not using any new feature. I'm not assuming anything. You wrote Depending on where you

HSM autobackup fuzzy backup

2009-07-14 Thread Neal Scheffler
Is there a patch or setting in HSM where if a dataset fails serialization during autobackup, to have HSM do a fuzzy backup anyway? I know the dataset backup will most likely be trash and unusable. This is just to appease management. Thanks, Neal

Re: MSU question z800 vs. z9BC

2009-07-14 Thread Gene Hudders
Hi Mark: I guess that you don't need any software support to support these features? Regards, Gene In a message dated 7/14/2009 10:20:26 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mark.zel...@zurichna.com writes: On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:29:34 EDT, Gene Hudders eshudd...@aol.com wrote: Hi Mark:

Re: IODF for FCTC connect with FICON director

2009-07-14 Thread Brian Peterson
Here's an example of part of a CTC definition using a FICON director which is part of a cascade. In this case, my CTC network doesn't participate in the cascade - it is local only - but when a director is part of a cascade, you always have to specify ports using the cascade or two byte format.

Re: MSU question z800 vs. z9BC

2009-07-14 Thread William Bishop
One more thing to consider. The monthly maintenance costs of a z800 are higher than a comparable z9bc, and they will get worse as the older the equipment the greater the increases. Also, there may be some increase in environmentals costs. Thanks Bill Bishop Specialist Mainframe Support

Re: MSU question z800 vs. z9BC

2009-07-14 Thread John Eells
Gene Hudders wrote: Hi Mark: I guess that you don't need any software support to support these features? Regards, Gene Mark's right. While new software is often required to support *new* features, it's not required to support *older* hardware. Going from a z9 BC to a z800 is going

Re: MSU question z800 vs. z9BC

2009-07-14 Thread Roach, Dennis (N-GHG)
I have a real problem thinking that any current z/OS software will not run on the z800. z/OS 1.11 supports the z800 http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/rep_ca/9/897/ENUS209-029/ENUS209-029.PD F and the vendor products that support z/OS 1.11 should support the z800 without having to back level. The

Re: MSU question z800 vs. z9BC

2009-07-14 Thread Gene Hudders
Hi John: Thanks but the point is still though if one has taken advantage of new hardware-dependent functions it would be necessary to un-exploit them. It may not be a simple IPL. Regards, Gene In a message dated 7/14/2009 10:46:04 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ee...@us.ibm.com writes:

Re: MSU question z800 vs. z9BC

2009-07-14 Thread Hal Merritt
Good point. But also consider that a new machine comes with a one or two year warranty (zero maintenance cost). So, our cheap z/800 may cost over $100k for the first year just for a standard maintenance contract. Of course, we don't know details of the deal, but moving and installation is

Re: MSU question z800 vs. z9BC

2009-07-14 Thread R.S.
William Bishop pisze: One more thing to consider. The monthly maintenance costs of a z800 are higher than a comparable z9bc, and they will get worse as the older the equipment the greater the increases. Unless you get maintenance from 3rd party supplier or simply run without maintenance.

Re: HSM autobackup fuzzy backup

2009-07-14 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
The answer used to be NO. HSM enqueues every dataset it backs up during Incremental and if it can't enqueue it bypasses. What might satisfy Management is HSM Dump with Dataset restore. Not sure how useful it would be but we're talking about management not reality. Thank You, Dave O'Brien NIH

Re: HSM autobackup fuzzy backup

2009-07-14 Thread Bri P
Went through the same thing here, for the same reasons, a couple of years back. I changed the SETSYS BACKUP parameter to include SERIALIZATION(PREFERRED) (the default if you don't specify SERIALIZATION is REQUIRED). In both cases, if HSM can't serialise on the dataset first time round, it moves

Re: Trace open/close

2009-07-14 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:39:40 +0200 Miklos Szigetvari miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com wrote: :Hi : :I would like to trace open/close calls and see the DCB, and open/close :options for a given program. :Any proper SLIP set to trace OPNE CLOSE ONPEN TYPE=J CLOSE TYPE=J with :all the paramters

Re: MSU question z800 vs. z9BC

2009-07-14 Thread Tony Harminc
2009-07-14 John McKown joa...@swbell.net: On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:23:20 -0500, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbm1.com wrote: The z/10's are out and this is 2 hardware generations back. Even in your situation, this seems to be a bad idea. I agree. So does everybody in my group, including my

TAPE Encryption

2009-07-14 Thread Lizette Koehler
When you run tape Encryption on a stacked tape do you encrypt all files that are stacked on a tape or just one file on the stacked tape? For example, I have a batch backup job that places 35 dumped volumes on one tape. I have looked at the doc and it seems I could place the encryption on the

Re: TAPE Encryption

2009-07-14 Thread Mark Jacobs
Lizette Koehler wrote: When you run tape Encryption on a stacked tape do you encrypt all files that are stacked on a tape or just one file on the stacked tape? For example, I have a batch backup job that places 35 dumped volumes on one tape. I have looked at the doc and it seems I could

Re: MSU question z800 vs. z9BC

2009-07-14 Thread Eric Bielefeld
I had a good chuckle when I read the first quote below. I have to disagree with the 2nd quote though. I'm sure that the manager who could get a good deal on a z/800 would prefer to know that his software costs would go up by 19 or 20%, probably negating the great savings on the z/800. I've

Re: MSU question z800 vs. z9BC

2009-07-14 Thread Guy Gardoit
Any of these arguments really matter? The OP is stuck with an idiot manager 2-levels above his manager (promote the incompetent) so he can't say much about it. No offense to you, John, but I hope some other manager 2-levels above the idiot notices the error down the road. Maybe then you'll get

Re: TAPE Encryption

2009-07-14 Thread Lizette Koehler
Mark, I agree with your statement. My concern is that some want to set up the ACS code to be generic, IF (DSN=PROD.**) Then DATACLAS=ENCRYPT. I want to update the JCL on just the first file to include the DATACLAS=ENCRYPT. So I am trying to figure it out the price of doing all the files

Re: TAPE Encryption

2009-07-14 Thread Mark Jacobs
Lizette Koehler wrote: Mark, I agree with your statement. My concern is that some want to set up the ACS code to be generic, IF (DSN=PROD.**) Then DATACLAS=ENCRYPT. I want to update the JCL on just the first file to include the DATACLAS=ENCRYPT. So I am trying to figure it out the

Re: MSU question z800 vs. z9BC

2009-07-14 Thread Edward Jaffe
John McKown wrote: I am ashamed to have to ask this at all. We currently have a z9BC. A high manager has found what he considers a great deal on a used z800 that he want to convert back when our lease expires. Due to the so-called 'Technology Dividend', 100 z800 MSU = 90 z890 MSU = 81 z9BC

Obtaining the Dsname in a Rexx Program

2009-07-14 Thread Baraniecki, Ray
Is there a way to obtain the dataset name for a file allocated in a Rexx program? This seems like a simple task but I just cannot think of how to do this. Thanks, Ray Baraniecki Morgan Stanley Smith Barney 18th Floor 1 New York Plaza New York, NY 10004 Office - 212-276-5641 Cell -

Oddball question for real old-timers: IBM 2314 / Memorex 660

2009-07-14 Thread Michael Ross
One for the real old-timers here! I'm restoring a DEC RP02 disk drive - re-badged Memorex 660, IBM 2314 clone. On cleaning it up, I find that the 'basin' - the sheet metal which lines the cavity in which the disk pack spins - is painted with a dark grey paint which is positively sticky - tacky to

Re: HSM autobackup fuzzy backup

2009-07-14 Thread Neal Scheffler
Thank you Brian. That is exactly what I was looking for. Neal Bri P wrote: Went through the same thing here, for the same reasons, a couple of years back. I changed the SETSYS BACKUP parameter to include SERIALIZATION(PREFERRED) (the default if you don't specify SERIALIZATION is REQUIRED).

Re: Obtaining the Dsname in a Rexx Program

2009-07-14 Thread Hardee, Charles H
Ray, Try this: (I am assuming DDX is pre-allocated to your session, batch or interactive) DSIRC = LISTDSI(DDX FILE) if DSIRC = 0 then say DDX is allocated to file SYSDSNAME on volume SYSVOLUME which is of type SYSUNIT exit Chuck -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion

Re: Obtaining the Dsname in a Rexx Program

2009-07-14 Thread C. Ardillo
For a file allocated via DD FC = LISTDSI(ddname FILE) DSN = SYSDSNAME DSN will then contain your filename. Baraniecki, Ray wrote: Is there a way to obtain the dataset name for a file allocated in a Rexx program? This seems like a simple task but I just cannot think of how to do this.

ZDNET Article: IBM and UNIVAC in the Apollo Program

2009-07-14 Thread David Waldman
A co-worker of mine sent me this link. http://content.zdnet.com/2346-17924_22-319868.html Interestingly we are 99.9% certain that our z900 is currently located in the room (RTCC) shown in the 1st picture. Link to a Share presentation that describes how we use z/OS in the Space Shuttle

Re: Oddball question for real old-timers: IBM 2314 / Memorex 660

2009-07-14 Thread John Eells
Michael Ross wrote: One for the real old-timers here! I'm restoring a DEC RP02 disk drive - re-badged Memorex 660, IBM 2314 clone. On cleaning it up, I find that the 'basin' - the sheet metal which lines the cavity in which the disk pack spins - is painted with a dark grey paint which is

Re: Oddball question for real old-timers: IBM 2314 / Memorex 660

2009-07-14 Thread Guy Gardoit
Our CE used to smoke his pipe while working on our 2314s and on our 3330's. Never had a problem! On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 10:58 AM, John Eells ee...@us.ibm.com wrote: OK, so this was a long time ago, but when I worked on 2314s none of the paint was tacky, either inside or outside the box.

Re: Anynet

2009-07-14 Thread Chris Mason
Mike You are still ambiguous! A diagram or two will/would help. Let me suggest the following: desktop PC controller3745/NCP VTAM/CICS -- --- -- --- - LAN SDLC or

Re: ICETOOL and SMF record type 119 (TCPIP)

2009-07-14 Thread Frank Yaeger
Bri P wrote on 07/14/2009 06:49:02 AM: Can ICETOOL process variable-length fields where the length of that field is stored in another field in the dataset? TYPE 119, for example, (the one I'm trying to process in this instance) has a definition section at the front that describes, via a

Re: HSM autobackup fuzzy backup

2009-07-14 Thread John Kelly
snip With PREFERRED, it does the backup regardless. unsnip I've found that this is true except for VSAM files, then you get rc68,rsn412, and open for update nonVSAM (or problematic DSNs) then you get rc19 rsn00 Jack Kelly 202-502-2390 (Office) Bri P pilgrim...@ntlworld.com Sent by: IBM

QMF Workstation Edit in Grid

2009-07-14 Thread Cummins William Ray
QMF 8.1 allowed (given DB2 permissions) users to manually edit values in the grid cell by double-clicking and editing. As we try to move to QMF for Workstation (v9.1 FP 2), one difficulty is that we don't appear to be able to edit values in the result grid. Are we missing a setting or

Re: ICETOOL and SMF record type 119 (TCPIP)

2009-07-14 Thread Greg Shirey
Brian, File 600 on the CBT tape has a utility that reads and formats the type 119 records. We've been using it for a couple of years now. If your shop allows it, it might be easier to download it and adapt it rather than rolling your own. HTH, Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith co. -Original

Re: TAPE Encryption

2009-07-14 Thread Mike Wood
Lizette, To get a correct answer you need to provide details of what kind of encryption you are doing. Are you using encryption in the tape hardware (for example IBM TS1120 which are encryption enabled), or are you encrypting using s/w on the host system? Outboard encryption in the IBM tape

Re: complexity

2009-07-14 Thread john gilmore
I have propagated this thread name, but it is a dubious one: computational complexity is the standard name for an important computer-science topic that has nothing much to do with the content of this thread. Still, what Chris Craddock had to say about what I shall call binding times was of

Re: Oddball question for real old-timers: IBM 2314 / Memorex 660

2009-07-14 Thread Rick Fochtman
-snip- I'm restoring a DEC RP02 disk drive - re-badged Memorex 660, IBM 2314 clone. On cleaning it up, I find that the 'basin' - the sheet metal which lines the cavity in which the disk pack spins - is painted with a dark grey

Re: Oddball question for real old-timers: IBM 2314 / Memorex 660

2009-07-14 Thread Tony Harminc
2009-07-14 John Eells ee...@us.ibm.com: From my ex-CE's point of view, anything that might hold dirt or dust inside a disk drawer is bad.  Once the air starts to move some will eventually work free, and if it should find its way into the disk pack/head interface Bad Things will follow.  You

Re: Complexity (was Re: Convert DB2 on z/OS to Oracle on z/Linux?)

2009-07-14 Thread Tony Harminc
2009/7/12 Chris Craddock crashlu...@gmail.com: Pick just about any piece of non-core business processing (i.e. stuff other than what your company does to make a living) and you will find the same thing. A whole slew of outsiders willing to solve the problem for a buck and a half less than

Re: TAPE Encryption

2009-07-14 Thread Lizette Koehler
We are fairly basic. A TS3500 Library with TS1120 E05 drives. It is ficon attached. Lizette Lizette, To get a correct answer you need to provide details of what kind of encryption you are doing. Are you using encryption in the tape hardware (for example IBM TS1120 which are encryption

Re: TAPE Encryption

2009-07-14 Thread Russell Witt
Lizette, Based on your other posts, I believe you are using the IBM TS1120/TS1130 encryption devices. In that case, as Mike Wood indicated, whatever file-1 is the rest of the tape will be the same. So, if file-1 is encrypted all the other files will be encrypted (no way to turn it off). Or, if

Re: Complexity (was Re: Convert DB2 on z/OS to Oracle on z/Linux?)

2009-07-14 Thread Frank Swarbrick
On 7/14/2009 at 5:11 PM, in message a3a2b85f0907141611v32ced8ebl7b44ce513b35a...@mail.gmail.com, Tony Harminc tz...@attglobal.net wrote: 2009/7/12 Chris Craddock crashlu...@gmail.com: Pick just about any piece of non-core business processing (i.e. stuff other than what your company does to

Re: Complexity (was Re: Convert DB2 on z/OS to Oracle on z/Linux?)

2009-07-14 Thread Chris Edwards
Stone soup anyone? A man is traveling the tribes of Africa. Each night he walks into a village and offers to provide his special stone soup in exchange for a place to sleep. He takes a large stone from his swag and boils it in a large pot of water. After a while he asks the villagers to try it.

You and z/OS and the World Wide Web

2009-07-14 Thread Steve Comstock
Well, ya' gotta' do what you love to do. So I've just finished a revision of my five day course You and z/OS and the World Wide Web. The update includes testing labs with more, and later version, browsers (Firefox 3.0.11, Opera 9.63, Safari 4.0, Chrome 2.0, Internet Explorer 8.0 and Amaya 11.2)

LUC MARTENS is out of the office.

2009-07-14 Thread Luc Martens (KBC)
I will be out of the office starting 15/07/2009 and will not return until 16/07/2009. For urgent matters, please contact one of my colleagues:, Geert Verbeek (+32 15 3 52294), VAN DEN BERGH BERT (+32 15 3 52298) or Dirk Braeken (+32 15 3 52728) This e-mail and any attached files are

Re: MSU question z800 vs. z9BC

2009-07-14 Thread Timothy Sipples
John, In addition to the points raised previously -- there are many good ones -- there's also the issue of One-Time Charge (OTC) software to consider. I'll give you a typical scenario. Let's suppose you have some z/OS tools, a couple CICS tools, a couple development tools, etc. Let's further