Re: The Fate of VM - was: Re: Baby MVS???

2006-08-15 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006o.html#49 The Fate of VM - was: Re: Baby MVS??? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006o.html#51 The Fate of VM - was: Re: Baby MVS??? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006o.html#52 The Fate of VM - was: Re: Baby MVS??? email from long ago and far away X-To: wheeler Subje

Re: CMS File System Mystery/Question

2006-08-15 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 08/15/2006 at 03:08 MST, "Schuh, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have just loaded a big CP dump. When I list the file, I get: > > list prb0 dump0001 f (label > FILENAME FILETYPE FM FORMAT LRECL RECS BLOCKS DATE TIME LABEL > PRB0 DUMP0001 F1 F 4

Re: CMS File System Mystery/Question

2006-08-15 Thread Richard Troth
sparse -- r; - Original Message - From: "Schuh, Richard" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08/15/2006 06:08 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: CMS File System Mystery/Question I have just loaded a big CP dump. When I list the file, I get: list prb0 dump0001 f (label

CMS File System Mystery/Question

2006-08-15 Thread Schuh, Richard
I have just loaded a big CP dump. When I list the file, I get: list prb0 dump0001 f (label FILENAME FILETYPE FM FORMAT LRECL RECS BLOCKS DATE TIME LABEL PRB0 DUMP0001 F1 F 4096 734914 731217 8/15/06 21:0

Re: IBM z/VM 5.2 Performance Toolkit

2006-08-15 Thread Dave Jones
This is drifting a bit off topic, but the IBM PC/AT-G, and PC/AT-GX (I think that's correct, the "G" was for Graphics) were very popular in the oil & gas business in the late 80s, early 90s...they were dual headed bocks that ran GDDM-PCLK (PC link) and GDDM had support for developing interestin

Re: Updated VM Community Redbook outline posted

2006-08-15 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
David, In the new Redbook it would be great to have a chapter on Operationl Procedures. For many of us we have no idea of the things to lookout for and deal with that we need to document and provide to Operations. Not everything that we have doc for on the z/OS side applies to z/Vm and equally the

Re: List issues and other questions

2006-08-15 Thread Dave Jones
When my desktop system here was OS/2 based, I also used (and liked a lot) ALMCOPY. However, the lack of other, important applications, that were easily available for Windows, but not OS/2, forced me off of that platform awhile ago. Even IBM has stopped selling and supporting PCOMM for OS/2 now.

Re: A question about z/VM and windoze

2006-08-15 Thread Craig Dudley
Larry, This link doesn't address z/VM but does address z/OS running with Windoze, native Linux, and Unix (probably HP-UX) on the same Itainium box. -- Craig Dudley Systems & Communications Sciences, Inc. 244 Poor Farm Rd. New Ipswich, NH 03071-3922

Re: VM2.3 IN$FILE & 3174

2006-08-15 Thread jcanavan
no VM/VTAM.. graf..remember enable  all                     Q GRAF "Edward M. Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System 08/14/2006 01:07 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc

Re: VM2.3 IN$FILE & 3174

2006-08-15 Thread jcanavan
That would be on the PC software. Doug Bulbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System 08/14/2006 12:21 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: VM2.3 IN$FILE & 3174

Re: VM2.3 IN$FILE & 3174

2006-08-15 Thread jcanavan
that I believe is question 173, which is all zeroes because there are none  (?) Steve Gentry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System 08/14/2006 01:20 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc

Re: IBM z/VM 5.2 Performance Toolkit

2006-08-15 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 8/15/06, Dave Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think it's safe to say that GDDM, as good as it was in it's day, is a thing of the past now. But I still use it occasionally here, and the the IBM PCOMM3270 emulator supports it and it's two separate graphics formats just fine. When I was you

Re: IBM z/VM 5.2 Performance Toolkit

2006-08-15 Thread Dave Jones
I think it's safe to say that GDDM, as good as it was in it's day, is a thing of the past now. But I still use it occasionally here, and the the IBM PCOMM3270 emulator supports it and it's two separate graphics formats just fine. DJ A. Harry Williams wrote: On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 09:28:17 -0400

Re: List issues and other questions

2006-08-15 Thread Lee Stewart
And ALMCOPY was a heck of a lot faster! And it didn't hickup like IND$FILE does from time to time (well at least back when)... Lee Kris Buelens wrote: I still daily use ALMCOPY (with OS/2 indeed. A version for Windows exist internally in IBM too, less spread however). The transfer is initiate

Re: z/VM 5.2 Dumps

2006-08-15 Thread Lee Stewart
This reminds me of my first week or so working for IBM as a PSR (those were kind of software CEs for those of you too young to know). I was working in Dayton, OH and they sent me out to Wright Patterson air base to pick up a dump. It turned out it was at FTD (the Foreign Technology Division)

Re: IBM z/VM 5.2 Performance Toolkit

2006-08-15 Thread A. Harry Williams
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 09:28:17 -0400 David Boyes said: >Even bigger problem is finding a tn3270 client that understands 3270 >graphics (at least for Windows -- thank you Brown University for the Mac >tn3270!) >(yes, I know GDDM does more than 3270, but it's hard to justify the >other devices if you c

Re: IBM z/VM 5.2 Performance Toolkit

2006-08-15 Thread David Boyes
Even bigger problem is finding a tn3270 client that understands 3270 graphics (at least for Windows -- thank you Brown University for the Mac tn3270!) (yes, I know GDDM does more than 3270, but it's hard to justify the other devices if you can't preview the output before you send it off to them...

Re: List issues and other questions

2006-08-15 Thread Kris Buelens
I still daily use ALMCOPY (with OS/2 indeed. A version for Windows exist internally in IBM too, less spread however). The transfer is initiated on the PC, just like IND$FILE. It has some advantages till missing in PCOMM's file transfer interface: - it can preserve a file's timestamp (the featu

Re: List issues and other questions

2006-08-15 Thread Mike Walter
I've never been an IBM employee, but had a copy of ALMCOPY installed on my PC - so it was publically available. But that PC ran OS/2. Not sure if ALMCOPY ran on any PC OS besides OS/2, but google finds lots of hits for ALMCOPY. Mike Walter Hewitt Associates Any opinions expressed herein are

Re: IBM z/VM 5.2 Performance Toolkit

2006-08-15 Thread Bill Bitner
Remember that GDDM is only one option. As was mentioned, the browser interface is another way to do graphics, though non-technical reasons make that a non-option for some cases. Bill Bitner Jim Bohnsack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >I think a bigger problem with requiring GDDM is that the use of i

Re: VM2.3 IN$FILE & 3174

2006-08-15 Thread Tom Cluster
Thanks, Alan, very much. Yes, Jan, that's it. I'm pretty sure this is your problem. - Tom. At 09:17 PM 8/14/2006, you wrote: On Monday, 08/14/2006 at 06:10 MST, Tom Cluster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unfortunately I don't have a 3174 Customization Guide to double-check. 3174 publicati

Re: List issues and other questions

2006-08-15 Thread Jim Bohnsack
Gregg--Digging back far into my memory banks, in a previous life as an IBM employee, I seem to recall that ALMCOPY was an IBM Internal Use Only program that was never made available. It was probably written by someone at the Almaden research center, hence the name. I vaguely recall that it wa

Re: IBM z/VM 5.2 Performance Toolkit

2006-08-15 Thread Jim Bohnsack
I think a bigger problem with requiring GDDM is that the use of it has fallen so much due to the PC connected "terminals". GDDM was great when it was the best way to get a nice looking graph or chart. Requiring GDDM now makes about as much sense as requiring real, not virtual card input. I s

Re: List issues and other questions

2006-08-15 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
> > Hello! > I am making preparations for my once a year vacation. Have a great time! > How do I instruct > the list server to not send me messages until I return? WHAT??? and miss out on all the exciting conversations that go on here? Besides, can't you get email on your boat/beach/mountaint