Re: DNS question

2006-12-20 Thread Dave Wade
Adam Thornton wrote: I haven't ever approached Theo about a 390 port. But with Hercules, you could get started for very very cheap Of course, Theo would probably sooner jump off a cliff than allow OCO stuff to intrude into his OS. Is it possible to put OBSD efficiently on VM

Re: problem with an old vm/esa environment after migration to a flex-estserver

2006-12-20 Thread Pohlen (Mailinglist)
Hi Gary, yes we are currently on the way to open an incident at the reseller. I will email you off-list the reseller's and the customer's name. Thank you all for your help and many ideas so far. Franz Josef - Original Message - From: Gary Eheman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: LPR link terminating

2006-12-20 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
On 19 Dec 2006 at 7:48, Les Geer (607-429-3580) wrote: I started an LPR link in RSCS with this command: SMSG RSCS DEFINE PDF01PO ASTART TYPE LPR FORM * PARM EXIT=LPRXONE HOST=10.240.1.128 PRINTER=PDF01PO ITO=0 USER=Y SYS=Y EPARM='S=N FF=N C=LPRCFG' For some reason,

Re: DNS question

2006-12-20 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
PING does not run on the TCP/IP stack, it runs on the userid that issued the command. I would like to thank everyone who helped me understand the way PING and DNS work in CMS. :-) It's working fine! The only other thing I needed to fix was an incorrect DOMAINORIGIN statement, our network

IOCP dynamic reconfiguration

2006-12-20 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
This looks like an MVS question, but it's really not - I do all the IOCP preparation from VM, for both the VM and the MVS boxes, and have to explain to the MVS people why it's not necessary to do it in MVS for that box. In my IOCP I have CVC channels (ESCON Converter to parallel [bus/tag]

Re: DNS question

2006-12-20 Thread David Boyes
bind is, these days, anything but minimal. We should port OpenBSD to the 390. You could probably run OpenBSD + bind in a 12MB VM. You can run Linux in a 12Mb VM just fine -- we do 16 and 32M Debian guests all the time. You just can't run *SuSE or RH as distributed* in that little memory.

Re: IOCP dynamic reconfiguration

2006-12-20 Thread Macioce, Larry
From mvs (master console) you'd cf(config) the chipid online(on),then vary the path and the devices online. What I don't know is what you'd do to have it offline to VM so those devices wouldn't rec an interrupt from VM. Mace -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System

Re: DNS question

2006-12-20 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 12/20/06, Shimon Lebowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only other thing I needed to fix was an incorrect DOMAINORIGIN statement, our network uses something weird. But having the wrong value *does* prevent me from pinging things. The DNS lookup is only for fully qualified names like

Re: DNS question

2006-12-20 Thread David Boyes
Of course, Theo would probably sooner jump off a cliff than allow OCO stuff to intrude into his OS. Is it possible to put OBSD efficiently on VM without OCO blobs? The only remaining OCO Linux on Z driver is the 3590 tape driver code, AFAIK.

Re: DNS question

2006-12-20 Thread Rod
The DNS protocol has been stretched and the de-facto standard extended beyond the RFCs. And bind happens to *be* the de-facto standard implementation. Another reason to run it instead of the VM DNS server code. And Microsoft Windows happens to *be* the de-facto standard implementation (of a

Re: IOCP dynamic reconfiguration

2006-12-20 Thread Duane Weaver
Larry, The devices should be added to the Offline_at_IPL statement in the SYSTEM CONFIG file for the VM system, located on MAINT's CF1 disk. At 09:42 AM 12/20/2006, you wrote: From mvs (master console) you'd cf(config) the chipid online(on),then vary the path and the devices online.

Re: DNS question

2006-12-20 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 12/20/06, Jack Woehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bind is, these days, anything but minimal. We should port OpenBSD to the 390. You could probably run OpenBSD + bind in a 12MB VM. So on what measurements would you base such a claim? And what does it compare to with Linux on zSeries? I

Re: IOCP dynamic reconfiguration

2006-12-20 Thread Macioce, Larry
Thanks Duane, but I didn't explain my part of the question properly (not the first time huh). What I meant was if the chipd is online to VM and and is needed by MVS we can move thse on the fly with the config on/off command. But what would you do to bring that chpid offline to a running VM system

Re: DNS question

2006-12-20 Thread Mark Pace
Has anyone taken the time to come up with the minimal system requirements for a SLES installation? Even the minimal system selection on the software install panel seems a little over engineered. -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems

Re: DNS question

2006-12-20 Thread Stephen Frazier
I bet that there is a vendor (not IBM) that would be glad to sell you a minimal DNS server in a small Linux. It would probably come in DDR format ready to load on a minidisk and run. Is a salesman at Sine Nomine listening? :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 19, 2006, at 9:25 PM, Jack Woehr

Re: IOCP dynamic reconfiguration

2006-12-20 Thread Neubert, Kevin (DIS)
VARY ON/OFF CHPID nn Regards, Kevin -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Macioce, Larry Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 7:17 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: IOCP dynamic reconfiguration Is there a similar command

Re: DNS question

2006-12-20 Thread Tom Duerbusch
In my low memory tests of SUSE, it would run fine in 12 MBs and no swapping, that is, until you want to do something (like YaST). joe works. kate works. The biggest difference I've seen in the low memory linux images, is method of communication. IUCV and VCTCA, works well in 12 MB. OSA and

Re: DNS question

2006-12-20 Thread Tom Duerbusch
SLES9 64 bit with OSA (OSA and Hipersockets have large buffer requirements) say they need 512MB. I've done installs in 256 MBs. I do get a message stating insufficient storage, but the install with only the normal base packages, works fine. During the installation, you don't have access to

Re: DNS question

2006-12-20 Thread David Boyes
I bet that there is a vendor (not IBM) that would be glad to sell you a minimal DNS server in a small Linux. It would probably come in DDR format ready to load on a minidisk and run. Is a salesman at Sine Nomine listening? :) When do you want it? 8-) -- db

DNS question tangents to OpenBSD/390

2006-12-20 Thread Jack Woehr
Tom Duerbusch wrote: IUCV and VCTCA, works well in 12 MB. OSA and Hipersockets, 48 MB. Now back on tangent to the origional discussion... Speaking of tangents There's OCO in Linux/390 ... is it *necessary* to run a guest OS or is it possible to run (and run efficiently?) a guest OS

VSE hard wait under z/VM 5.2 second level

2006-12-20 Thread Tom Duerbusch
As a lark, I tried bring up VSE/ESA 2.7.2 up under a second level z/VM 5.2 (z/VM Version 5 Release 2.0, service level 0602 (64-bit) ) system that is running under z/VM 5.1 (z/VM Version 5 Release 1.0, service level 0501 (64-bit)). No go. Right after ipl restart point has been bypassed, I get:

Re: VSE hard wait under z/VM 4.3

2006-12-20 Thread Neale Ferguson
Code FED will be in the messages manual and will explain what it's bitching about. On Wed, 2006-12-20 at 11:21 -0800, Daniel Allen wrote: We moved from a z800 to z9BC. z/VM 4.3 came up okay. OS/390 2.10 works fine. However, when we bring up z/VSE 2.6, we get the following: SYSTEM ENTERED

Re: The Future of CPUs: What's After Multi-Core?

2006-12-20 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
Brian Inglis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: IME the IBM VM guys had very good ideas for interaction using the corporate products and facilities, even though it has never been funded adequately and often nearly terminated. They were much better than the batch guys at letting the users fully use all

Re: DNS question tangents to OpenBSD/390

2006-12-20 Thread Adam Thornton
On Dec 20, 2006, at 12:37 PM, Jack Woehr wrote: Tom Duerbusch wrote: IUCV and VCTCA, works well in 12 MB. OSA and Hipersockets, 48 MB. Now back on tangent to the origional discussion... Speaking of tangents There's OCO in Linux/390 ... is it *necessary* to run a guest OS or is it

Re: DNS question tangents to OpenBSD/390

2006-12-20 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 12/20/06, Adam Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know how much OCO there really is anymore, actually. The QDIO drivers are available now, and I think there's even a 3590 implementation. You could certainly get a Linux system, with networking, built without anything that isn't Free

Re: VSE hard wait under z/VM 5.2 second level RESOLVED

2006-12-20 Thread Tom Duerbusch
Found it. I took the 3rd level VSE machine, TSTESA5F and brought it back up second level. Right after the ipl restart has been bypassed is the normal stuff about the lock file. LOCK FILE? Ar This is a standalone system from the normal systems. i.e. it is a flash copy of our TSTESA5

Re: VSE hard wait under z/VM 4.3

2006-12-20 Thread Lewis, David (SCI TW)
There are a ton of PTFs needed to get VSE 2.6 to run on a z9. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Allen Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 1:21 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: VSE hard wait under z/VM 4.3 We moved

Re: DNS question

2006-12-20 Thread Rod
various We should port BSD quotes Someone did a bunch of patches to one of the BSD's some years ago. I know, I saw it. I'm pretty sure I bookmarked it but as per usual, when I want to find the thing I can't... ah, there it is. Hmmm... it was the FreeBSD stuff. Maybe someone (else) can have a

Re: DNS question tangents to OpenBSD/390

2006-12-20 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 12/20/2006 at 09:07 CET, Rob van der Heij [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/20/06, Adam Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know how much OCO there really is anymore, actually. The QDIO drivers are available now, and I think there's even a 3590 implementation. You

Re: DNS question tangents to OpenBSD/390

2006-12-20 Thread Jack Woehr
Alan Altmark wrote: An OCO module may use the above in any combination, so I'm not sure what Jack is asking about: OCO modules (none remain - the 3590 tape driver was open sourced back in May) or interfaces in category 2. I was really asking two questions (which now seem to be answered):

Re: DNS question tangents to OpenBSD/390

2006-12-20 Thread David Boyes
There's OCO in Linux/390 ... is it *necessary* to run a guest OS or is it possible to run (and run efficiently?) a guest OS like, um, say, just hypothetically, OpenBSD/390 without any OCO? If you don't have or don't want to use 3590 tapes, yes.

z/VM 5.2 ESAMON vs IBM PTK regarding SYTSHS_RSASHARE monitor record

2006-12-20 Thread Craig Sutton
Hello, I've been comparing the Velocity ESAMON and IBM Performance Toolkit products on z/VM 5.2, and have noticed that they disagree on the value of the SYTSHS_RSASHARE monitor record. According to the IBM doc, the SYTSHS_RSASHARE monitor record represents Cardinal count of resident shared

Re: DNS question tangents to OpenBSD/390

2006-12-20 Thread Rich Smrcina
Thanks, I was hoping that I wasn't dreaming it. Chuckie: please don't start any threads regarding dreams about Uli! Richard Heritage wrote: According to a presentation given by Ulrich Weigand at the last SHARE, the 3590 support went open source in March of this year, so there are no longer any

Changing DOSRES SYSWK1 labels using ICKDSF under z/VM

2006-12-20 Thread Daniel Allen
Can you change DOSRES SYSWK1 labels using ICKDSF under z/VM ? ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Any

Re: Changing DOSRES SYSWK1 labels using ICKDSF under z/VM ?

2006-12-20 Thread Rich Smrcina
Sure you can, but you may not like the results. Why do you want to change them? Daniel Allen wrote: Can you change DOSRES SYSWK1 labels using ICKDSF under z/VM ? -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Phone: 414-491-6001 Ans Service: 360-715-2467 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com Catch the WAVV!

Re: Changing DOSRES SYSWK1 labels using ICKDSF under z/VM ?

2006-12-20 Thread Tom Cluster
I have always used DITTO in CMS to do this. ICKDSF CPVOL has a clip function - I'm not sure if you can do it outside of CPVOL. Maybe you could use CPVOL's LABEL function even though it's not a VM volume, but I've never tried it. If you have DITTO in CMS, use it. It works nicely. -

Re: IPL Help for old 9672 with VM/ESA 2.4

2006-12-20 Thread Larry Israel
Although we have IPLed our VM/ESA 2.4 on our 9672 using the HMC, I also need to know how to run a DDR restore. With a DDR tape that I had built with DDR at the front, followed by a full-pack dump after it, I could not get it to work under VM. With a tape at 181 and the disk pack attached at 521,