Jim Bohnsack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :-
I would be interested in hearing from someone who has the
opportunity to ipl a 2nd level z/VM 5.4 or earlier while using an
emulator screen that is not configured as a mod-2 3270. What I'd like
to know is at ipl time, when you've got the first
z/OpenBSD -- wibni?
http://dobbscodetalk.com/index.php?option=com_myblogshow=OpenBSD-390.htmlItemid=29
I'm bcc'ing Theo de Raadt ... he'll probably scold me, justly, for not
having ported the kernel myself
already, but really, I don't know enough to be confident that I would
finish that
Raymond Noal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :-
I would greatly appreciate it if you could provide any additional
information on the
problem you had during SHUTDOWN. Did IBM give you a PTF or what?
Is there something you can give me to find this on IBMLINK?
Doing a search for ?SHUTDOWN? on
I will be out of the office starting 10/09/2008 and will not return until
10/16/2008.
I will respond to your message when I return.
On: Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 10:56:43PM -0400,Jim Bohnsack Wrote:
I'm seeing something very strange when I ipl a 2nd level VM system. I
first noticed it on z/VM 5.4, but this a.m. saw that z/VM 5.3 works the
same way. The Guide for Automated Installation and Service, which I was
following
Hello list,
I am installing z/VM 5.4.0 SL 0801 in secondlevel (base z/VM is 5.2.0 SL 0801).
In firstlevel VM I use TCPIP (called TCPIP3) connected to HIPERSOCKET. This
works fine.
Now I want to prepare the secondlevel, new VM for produktion and get a
connection to HIPERSOCKET.
I have attached
Do you have the PTF for PK69986 applied?
Regards,
Miguel Delapaz
z/VM TCP/IP Development
The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU wrote on 10/09/2008
06:20:19 AM:
Can anyone give me a hint whats wrong ?
I've noticed that our console logs for VMUTIL are huge... it seems that
just before midnight - it starts spewing this message:
DMSCYW2246I*
DMSCYW2246I*
DMSCYW2246I*
DMSCYW2246I*
DMSCYW2246I*
DMSCYW2246I*
DMSCYW2246I*
DMSCYW2246I*
DMSCYW2246I*
DMSCYW2246I*
For thousands of lines -- and then at
We have recently upgraded our SLES guests from 9 to 10 with out incident.
The last to be updated was our 'router' guest for our HIPERSOCKET network
.
This linux admins upgraded this guest as such:
a) Created SLES 10 guest and configured identical with the exception of t
he
IP address and
Me! I tried many things to fix and never did. I gave up on using it.
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 9:51 AM, Scott Rohling [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
I've noticed that our console logs for VMUTIL are huge... it seems that
just before midnight - it starts spewing this message:
DMSCYW2246I*
Is your NICDEF in the directory or dynamically defined from a PROFILE
EXEC? I would look at the directory entry and the PROFILE EXEC.. Also -
what do console logs show when the server starts up? There should be some
clues there...
Scott Rohling
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 7:56 AM, Steve Mitchell
Jim Bohnsack wrote:
I'm seeing something very strange when I ipl a 2nd level VM system. I
first noticed it on z/VM 5.4, but this a.m. saw that z/VM 5.3 works the
same way. The Guide for Automated Installation and Service, which I was
following closely since I was installing from a DVD by way
Scott,
Also look at the profile exec for the VMUTIL box and see if it has a
'sleep' start a couple of minutes before midnight and the length should
be long enough to last at least 1 minute past midnight.
Loren Charnley, Jr.
IT Systems Engineer
FAMILY DOLLAR
(704) 847-6961 Ext. 3327
NICDEF is in the Directory
Network acquisition messages at Linux startup:
Setting up network interfaces:
lo
loIP address: 127.0.0.1/8
Checking for network time protocol daemon (NTPD): ..unused
[1A..doneeth0
eth0 configuration: qeth-bus-ccw-0.0.0300..
eth0 IP
Thanks for confirming it's not just me. I hadn't looked before, but the
VMUTIL EXEC is an extremely simple thing using WAKEUP .. I'll try tracing
and see what I can see..
Scott Rohling
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 7:59 AM, Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Me! I tried many things to fix and
Scott--I put into my * TIMES file the following statement to handle this
problem:
==/==/== 23:59:00 10/09/08 CP SLEEP 2 MIN
Note that the date is set by WAKEUP at the time the event occurs. Just
be sure that when you put this into your TIMES file it's a date that has
already occurred.
The following is in my VMUTIL EXEC. I am not sure if it came this way
or someone before me added it:
DO_SOMETHING:
ARG INLINE
IF TIME() = '23:57:30' THEN DO/* MUST WAIT
Thanks for the help with this guys!!
Thanks to Kris who also accurately predicted that I'd need to define the 123
disk in order to update the directory with directxa!
Managed to update the directory and got the 123 disk back online to maint -
normal service resumed! :-] Hopefully no-one
I have not been able to get the viewlog command to work with the LINES
option.
I try this:
gomcmd opmgrm1 viewlog date(2008/10/06),lines(200)
And get this:
10/09/2008 08:37:05 GOMCMD0205E COMMAND VIEWLOG
DATE(2008/10/06),LINES(200) SYNTAX NOT VALID
Can anyone see what I'm doing
I don't see anything wrong and I get the same response on my system.
(I hadn't tried it before.) I'd say there's a bug in this new
argument that they added to release 3.
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Lionel B. Dyck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have not been able to get the viewlog command to
I would like to know if we are some to use the CA HiDRO product to backup
VSE and/or VSE DASD.
The latest DAR we opened for the product relates the fact that HiDRO do f
ull
packs backup without taking advantage of the vtoc DASD. It means that fre
e
space is saved, taking more time to proceed and
Is there a way, in REXX, that I can specify a URL, and get the results
returned in a stem? For example, the url
http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/cgi-bin/timer.pl
when ran from a browser, returns about 8 lines of information. Once the
info is in a stem/queue/stack, I can select the one I want to
Alain Benveniste wrote:
I would like to know if we are some to use the CA HiDRO product to backup
VSE and/or VSE DASD.
The latest DAR we opened for the product relates the fact that HiDRO do full
packs backup without taking advantage of the vtoc DASD. It means that free
space is saved, taking
Gentry, Stephen wrote:
Is there a way, in REXX, that I can specify a URL, and get the results
returned in a stem? For example, the url
http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/cgi-bin/timer.pl
when ran from a browser, returns about 8 lines of information. Once the
info is in a stem/queue/stack, I can
I have used a couple of tools, basically they are replacements for FLIST and
PEEK, in the past.
FULRDR and FULIST, I can't remember where I got them from, and my searches seem
to be frutile.
I think they may be part of a larger package, but I just don't remember.
Does anyone know where I can
z/OpenBSD -- wibni?
Yeah, it would. I just don't think anyone's got the spare time to spend
on something that has even less commercial support than Linux and
OpenSolaris. The justification for doing both Linux and OpenSolaris had
to do with mindshare and commercial access, with Linux attaining a
HiDRO is designed for Full volume backup / restore for Disaster
recovery. With out free space backup this would not be able to be
accomplished.
Thank you,
Scott R Wandschneider
Senior Systems Programmer
Infocrossing
Office 402.963.8905
-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating
Both of them are internal IBM tools that I don't think have ever made
it onto any repository outside of IBM. I use FULIST a lot, but I've
never used FULRDR.
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 1:20 PM, Huegel, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have used a couple of tools, basically they are replacements for
HIDRO can be used for selective restores also
and depending how it is set up , will only backup ID's that have been
updated , and full backups
as scheduled also
It is always good to have full vol DDR backups taken periodically along w/
HIDRO
when doing Hidro restores also has options, from on-line
sorry my reply was VM related not VSE
did not see very 1st post
On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 12:39 -0400, Gentry, Stephen wrote:
Is there a way, in REXX, that I can specify a URL, and get the results
returned in a stem? For example, the url
http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/cgi-bin/timer.pl
when ran from a browser, returns about 8 lines of information. Once
the
I recently upgraded to 5.3, however before the move to production I was
do all my installation, tailoring and testing as a second level VM and
did not experience this, shutdown took 9 seconds or less total! During
the actual update process, I shutdown and re-IPL'ed the system several
times and
You can also use the WW2GET EXEC that comes with CHARLOTT. This works
with some Windows HTTP servers that will not return anything to GETHTTP.
Peter
-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Rich Smrcina
Sent: October 9, 2008 13:14
To:
My RxServer package on the VM dowload library -with which you can make a
better VMUTIL, contains an HTML document that describes this problem. The
REXX code of that improved VMUTIL will automatically insert some sleep
command in the wakeup file if it is missing.
2008/10/9 Wandschneider, Scott
Don't you two sit close enough to talk?
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In theory, theory and practice are the same, but
Hello Alain,
It does take more time but not too much more space on tape. Well, if you
use compression that is. We have set compression on the backup's and
they do not take that much more space. But be aware that compression
does take some more time and CPU.
Our DR backup's created with VMIMAGE
Hello August,
Why should you also use DDR? Hidro has the VMIMAGE backup and this is a
lot easier than the DDR's.
When we installed Hidro it was to replace Dynam/B for CMS daily and
weekly backups. The added VMIMAGE backup has replaced our DDR
procedures. With less effort we have a very stable DR
David Boyes wrote:
z/OpenBSD -- wibni?
Yeah, it would. I just don't think anyone's got the spare time to spend
on something that has even less commercial support than Linux and
OpenSolaris. The justification for doing both Linux and OpenSolaris had
to do with mindshare and commercial
Well I guess I can forget about them then.. Wonder where I got them in the
first place..
BTW it looks like a typeo FULRDR is a replacement for RDRLIST not PEEK.
I wonder why IBM keeps the good stuff for themselves and lets the people paying
the bills ie customers, live with what the old stuff..
David Boyes wrote:
If we do another native OS port, I'd be more interested in bringing
i5OS
Already virtualized on its own platform, sounds rare and kinky to
duplicate that
on the 390.
AIX
Died a slow and natural death on the mainframe in the 1980's.
OpenVMS would be even more attractive
We are looking to implement a tool or develop a process for use by the
Operations staff to use to check the availablilty of our linux guests
running under vm. When we IPL vm, the vm guests all start, however
sometimes, linux and/or Oracle database running under linux donot
correctly complete
Robert J McCarthy wrote:
We are looking to implement a tool or develop a process for use by the
Operations staff to use to check the availablilty of our linux guests
running under vm.
Absolute Performance's System Shepherd monitoring agent runs under
Linux/390. I supervised the port.
I know of no single tool that can help you because verifying function at
essentially an application level is so unique to each instance.
If your target linux is a web server, use your browser to pull up a dynam
ic
page from that server (a cgi that displays the current df or top data).
If
Robert J McCarthy wrote:
We are looking to implement a tool or develop a process for use by the
Operations staff to use to check the availablilty of our linux guests
running under vm. When we IPL vm, the vm guests all start, however
sometimes, linux and/or Oracle database running under linux
Sometimes it is a matter of taste too. Please, give me the full XEDIT power
that is available in RDRLIST, FILELIST and alike. FULIST doesn't have that
at all.
For example.
FILELIST
ALL /EXEC/ | /REXX/ | /XEDIT/
give me a list with most -if not all- files written in REXX
Then I might say for
On Thu, 9 Oct 2008, David Boyes wrote:
Hi,
z/OpenBSD -- wibni?
Yeah, it would. I just don't think anyone's got the spare time to spend
on something that has even less commercial support than Linux and
OpenSolaris.
While I admit that time is a determining factor for an individual, you know
Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote:
On Thu, 9 Oct 2008, David Boyes wrote:
Yeah, it would. I just don't think anyone's got the spare time to spend
on something that has even less commercial support than Linux and
OpenSolaris.
Lot's of consulting
hours to sell to migrate Sparc people to z aeh linux and
With an XAUTOLOG followed by a SET SECUSER, you can still mis lots of
error messages: surely all those caused by LINKs in the directory that
fail, and possibly the first messages resulting from actions in the
PROFILE EXEC.
I guess that a failing NICDEF (included in the CP directory) will just
be
Nagios or Hobbit are quite nice for that sort of thing, or just use the
same tools you use for the distributed systems. If you don't have such
tools, that's a nice thing to offer the rest of the organization as
(another) reason for the Linux on Z distribution.
While I admit that time is a determining factor for an individual, you
know
how much (time) a port costs and ...
Painfully well. Especially in having to spend time with lawyers to CMA.
The problem is that it's not the oh it boots and gets to single user
and..., multiuser, networking,
If we do another native OS port, I'd be more interested in bringing
i5OS
Already virtualized on its own platform, sounds rare and kinky to
duplicate that
on the 390.
Not really. There are a lot of large shops that have significant numbers
of small to medium iSeries boxen that they'd give
The date of the fourth quarter meeting of the Chicago Area VM (and
Linux) Enthusiasts has been changed.
The meeting will take place on Thursday, November 13, 2008, instead
of the originally scheduled date of October 23rd.
Presentations will include z/VM Platform Update: Introducing z/VM
5.4
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