Create a file with the directory entry VMIRMAINT shows you called
VMBACKUP DIRECT. Then use DIRM ADD VMBACKUP to add it. DIRMAINT does the
rest.
Once DIRMAINT is active, you should NEVER update USER DIRECT. All that
is behind you - use the DIRMAINT tools to do directory management.
What is wrong with using CPFMTXA to format and allocate your VM
volumes. Most Modern DASD subsystems are doing the basic formatting of
the
DASD volumes and all that is needed on VM is to format cylinder 0 and
Allocate the volume as all PERM. Then format each individual minidisk
as
better.
Happy downloading,
-- db
David Boyes
Sine Nomine Associates
How this will finally be delivered is still TBD. As I indicated,
this is a known requirement that we continue to work to deliver a
solution. Even though it sounds simple to burn DVDs, there are
other complications here.
Just a suggestion:
HP solved this problem by encrypting the existing
On Thu, 9 Oct 2008, David Boyes wrote:
... AIX/370 was a perverse evil mutant
thing
from hell that didn't die a second too soon. Modern AIX (ie post-AIX
4)
is actually a pretty nice OS, and a lot different from AIX/370 or
AIX/RT
(which spawned it). ...
Umm
The solution for customers with lots of small iSeries/System i
boxes today running IBM i (formerly i5/OS formerly OS/400) is to
Good grief -- it's like going to IKEA with these folks. Name change just
Because We Can.
put in a Power blade (JS12 or JS22). You save a lot of space and
get to
If you're trying to use the starter system install server to install the
Virtualization Cookbook golden image, then use the directory entry from
the cookbook, log in to the client you're installing, #CP LINK NOVSTART
19F 19F RR, and run SLES. Then use the directions in the cookbook on
selecting
How are folks monitoring their backup osa's on the vswitch? How do
you
know they haven't lost connectivity and won't be there when you need
it?
(asking because, well, yeah, that can happen :)
You can also use any SNMP-capable monitor and look at the SNMP physical
link state variable in the
On 10/11/08 8:13 AM, Barton Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Nagios and Hobbit are a naive solution for very small operations.
They can be
a very
small part of what operations want, but any installation wanting to manage
multiple
servers has more complete z/VM and Linux requirements.
z/OpenBSD -- wibni?
Yeah, it would. I just don't think anyone's got the spare time to spend
on something that has even less commercial support than Linux and
OpenSolaris. The justification for doing both Linux and OpenSolaris had
to do with mindshare and commercial access, with Linux attaining a
Nagios or Hobbit are quite nice for that sort of thing, or just use the
same tools you use for the distributed systems. If you don't have such
tools, that's a nice thing to offer the rest of the organization as
(another) reason for the Linux on Z distribution.
While I admit that time is a determining factor for an individual, you
know
how much (time) a port costs and ...
Painfully well. Especially in having to spend time with lawyers to CMA.
The problem is that it's not the oh it boots and gets to single user
and..., multiuser, networking,
If we do another native OS port, I'd be more interested in bringing
i5OS
Already virtualized on its own platform, sounds rare and kinky to
duplicate that
on the 390.
Not really. There are a lot of large shops that have significant numbers
of small to medium iSeries boxen that they'd give
Trouble with a 'real' console is the need to be a locally attached 3270
device. I understand that to mean a 3174 or similar device. We don't
have any. All our MVS consoles use the ICC OSA interface.
If you've got an ICC, then define one of the logical devices on it to
the VM LPAR and have it
For an MVS shop, that all things equal helps with operators.
I think that's a universal...8-)
we have OPERATOR logged on that Mast
er
Console running the Performance Toolkit program PERFKIT. With an
minimum
FCONX $PROFILE, you get a nice scrolling console with some (not great)
logging of
What's the good and bad news about today's mainframe education?
I think the good parts are that there is more of it occurring. The
negative side is that there continues to be a great deal of confusion
(most of it generated by IBM) that mainframe = z/OS. Much, if not all,
of the advances in
I tend to agree with 99% of what Mr. Boyes said. However, the
educational responsibility needs to be placed more upon academia. For
them to teach UNIX / Linux is a given ability. The lack of educators
with mainframe skills and knowledge along with their respective teaching
tools limit in today's
Most common reason is a COLD start. Remember, segments live in spool.
Second reason, spool volume offline.
VMFBUILD ( ALL should fix it.
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dean, David (I/S)
Sent: Monday, October
Log in as MAINT on 2nd level.
VMFSETUP ESA CP (or whatever your level of z/VM expects)
VMFBUILD ( ALL
See the VM Service Guide manual. It'll explain all the goodness and
mercy contained in VMF utilities to you.
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
: DMSDCS1083E Saved segment CMSPIPES does not exist
On 2nd level? Or first?
David Dean
Information Systems
*bcbstauthorized*
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of David Boyes
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 11:13
I've added an annotated console log for both the starter system install
and a client system install as appendices in the document, assuming that
Novell does another release.
-- db
*** login using 'ssh -X [EMAIL PROTECTED]' ***
*** run 'yast' to start the installation ***
Am I suppose to disconnect from client and then ssh to it and enter
YAST;
Yes.
While implementing the SLES exec for the SLES10 full-service server,
it
asks for a MAC address. (I thought the MAC address was automatically
assigned. Why is it asking for a static address?) We are using OSA
GB-EXP.
You should respond no to the layer 2 prompt here. Nothing in the setup
://distribution.sinenomine.net/opensolaris
Happy reading,
-- db
David Boyes
Sine Nomine Associates
Doesn't JES3 speak TCP/IP these days? If so, use the TCP/IP NJE driver to
connect RSCS to
JES3.
I think it does (or it's trivial to use our NJE Bridge to provide an impedance
matcher), but it sounds like the original setup has some kind of modified RJE
exit on the JES3 side that sets
That would probably work for output, but if they're used to job progress
messages on VM from JES via NJE msgs, that would break message routing,
I think. Worth a try, though.
Rob's idea is intriguing; the approach of letting a service machine mung
the JCL into IEBGENR and submitting it via
Since we have VM/RSCS appearing as a RJP workstation to JES3 using EP
and a 3745, can it do the same using the SNA protocol to look like a
3770 device, but minus the 3745?
If I'm reading the RSCS docs correctly, no. The RJE drivers really do
expect a physical line, as far as I can tell. The
Where could a 'newbie' find a comprehensive explanation of Spool? ie
What
it is intended for, how its used by VM and potentially other
products/tools/applications.
Ask here. 8-)
Originally, on CMS-intensive systems, spool areas were for two purposes:
1) a place for virtual machines to
YES IMMENSELY.
Linux guests are our sole customer on /VM, so that is where my 'need
to
know' lies.
Good. I have a personal interest in making sure BCBS gets this right.
8-)
One other observation on DCSS: these are being exploited for Linux as
containers to use for seldom-changed filesystems
Do I need a secondary user defined
It's not required, but it is a good idea to have somewhere central for
all the console logs on your system to go by default, rather than have
them scattered all over the spool. If you want to silence the message,
change the CONLOG on the CONSOLE statement in
OK, I'll byte. Is the most current TNVT100 located by google at:
http://ukcc.uky.edu/~tools/1997
Or is a newer one located somewhere beyond google's wide vision?
That's the version I have. I don't think Arty's done anything to it in a
very long while.
Emacs on a 3270 is a very strange
May I run OS/390 V2R8 as a guest under any of the supported releases of
z/VM? I believe it is unsupported by IBM, but, does it work? OS/390 is
unsupported so I don't think I'm any worse off. I'm looking at bringing
in a smaller, newer, IBM mainframe and trying to save some money on my
IBM
No, you should use an different IP address from the same subnet, or from
a subnet that is reachable from the starter system. You need the starter
system to be up when you try to build the new system.
What page in the docs are you referring to? If I goofed, I'd like to
make sure I fix the docs.
No, the SLES exec punches the install deck to the new client rdr and
IPLs from that. NOVSTART does have to be up to deliver the files to the
client during installation.
-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
Behalf Of Austin, Alyce (CIV)
OK, then Rich is correct. You're telling it the address of the install
server (where it's going to get the files to install the new server).
The new server will eventually need a unique address of it's own,
though.
So the only thing you are buying here is that you keep TCPMAINT
password
secret is that the whole idea behind LOGOnBY? So then you only add
certain user ids to do LOGONBY for this user id correct?
Think of it more as a role: you are assuming the role of TCPMAINT, using
your own login
It's controllable by RACF, but is part of CP (finally).
Is LOGONBY a RACF thing or z/VM???
It was a user mod for a while (pre-XA). I think VM/XA or VM/ESA 1.x was
when it became official. That was a long time ago, though.
I know I had it on SP5 as a usermod and remember that I was really glad
to not have to maintain it any more.
On 9/23/08 4:58 PM, Michael Forte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was able to pull a few strings and have the z/VM V5.4 Guide for Automated
Installation and Service, as well as the two summaries, added directly to the
z/VM library page.
The Force is strong in this one
Geez. 28 years. Now I really feel officially ancient. Thanks a lot, dude.
On 9/23/08 5:44 PM, Dave Wade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
David Boyes wrote:
A very long time...
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/browse?fn=DMKLOGft=MEMO
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/browse?fn=NOPSWDft=NOTE
On 9/23/08 5:58 PM, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi
One last thing on this. Am I logged on with my user id and password then
from there logonby to another machine such as MAINT? Or do I just logon
to MAINT using LOGONBY with my personal user id's password?
The
On 9/23/08 6:14 PM, Mike Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No, you cannot logon to one userid when logged onto another.
Mike! What happened to your copy of SESSION?
Native CP can't do it, but you certainly can use SESSION or YVETTE or NV/AS
or PVM to get multiple login sessions from a single
On 9/23/08 6:15 PM, Mike Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just on the off chance...
are there any CPUs defined to that LPAR? Check the HMC.
Also make sure they didn't accidentally give you a CF engine by mistake.
They used to look the same as an IFL on older HMCs, and some people haven't
I'm am using network device QDIOETHERNET: OSA-Gigabit Ethernet with
my OSA device addresses (E000-E002) dedicated
to NOVSTART in my directory. When I IPL the SLES10
starter system, I get the following message:
(It doesn't give me the choice to choose '3' as my network device.)
Is there a
What sort of things do you want to monitor? The traditional SNA monitors
like Netview can provide connectivity monitoring remotely, and it would
be fairly easy to develop some plugins for Nagios or Hobbit to do SNA
monitoring and reporting back to the monitoring system via IP, but I
doubt there is
Issue the ASCII command before transferring it on the sending side. That
should force LF-CR/LF conversion (the FTP spec requires CR/LF on the wire).
Most Unix FTP clients default to binary mode these days, which is why you
get the raw LF.
Question: are these fixed length records? If so, try SITE
We use Bacula and VTS to make backups I wonder if we can configure in
z/V
M
tape volumes greater than 830 MB. It look like that what I can define
max
830 MB.
There's no limit in z/VM; the tape mount code we wrote writes until
physical EOV; you may need to define a new media type in Bacula to
When you say VTS, I assume you mean an IBM 3494 ... no, you can't.
The
virtual volumes are emulated to the extent that includes simulating
the
capacity of a physical 3490E cartridge.
Ah, right. VTS, duh.
Suggestion: define a disk pool with large volumes (5-10G) and do
migration from disk to
After doing the link novstart 191 f191 MR, the cmsddr restore
appeared
to work. This is what I got as a response:
[snip]
Yes, that's what you should expect.
From OPERATOR or other priv id on the 2nd level system, do ENABLE ALL
However, we are not able to DIAL to it. I put in some SPECIAL
statements in definition within USER DIRECT which were of no help. I
thinking there might be something on 2nd level VM system that needs
to be changed or
I didn't know that OpenVMS could run on Intel Itaniums, but
it sounds way cool.
Yes. It's a relatively recent development (and about 20 years too late
-- we could have been spared Windows entirely if DEC had bought a clue
way back when...*sigh*), but it's actually fueling a renaissance in VMS
Use the recently posted DDR and FTPPUT pipe stages. *Much* simpler for
batchable tasks like that.
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Gary M. Dennis
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 3:58 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
IBM 3590 costs and cartridge replacements (retired system?)
VSSI VTAPE disk costs and lack of easy D/R.
IBM VTL system Virtualized Tape systems
EMC DISK LIBRARY Replacement for Carts D/R questions.
Other possible solutions.
Flex-CUB (if you can get
interested?
-- db
David Boyes
Sine Nomine Associates
I realized I just responded to Scott. For the rest of you:
From: David Boyes
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 5:06 PM
To: 'Scott Rohling'
Subject: FW: Partially Successful: OpenVMS on System z
Uh Yeah!! More info please! :-)
I've enhanced the ES40
*sigh* No, it certainly wasn't a SNA project, although a number of us did
participate while part of other lives.
As to the more than half number, what I said was that it was likely that the
majority of the *increase* in MIPS was specialty engines of *some* type. I'm
not sure the reporter got
to this? Someone at work forwarded it to me. The web site works
.
David Boyes of Sine Nomine Associates is quoted.
Is there a cat belonging to somebody named Schrodinger somewhere in
the
neighborhood of your system?
Maybe not, but he's certainly got a local demon named Maxwell. 8-)
-- db
VTAPE is a super product, but also consider a Flex-CUB (essentially a
channel attached PC that can present itself as tape drives or slower disk
volumes. You can attach a variety of lower-cost disk storage to the
Flex-CUB, and mirror that, or use a variety of techniques to get that to
Historically, there was a problem, and that was a required restriction
in those days. Modern CP does handle it correctly.
You lose a trivial amount of disk space by skipping cyl 0 consistently
(180K or so per volume). Even so, IMHO, it is still good practice to
avoid cyl 0 for all packs as a
1. Does IUCV infrastructure overhead specifically associated with
number
of
connections become prohibitive at some well known point?
There is a limit to the maximum number of connections (a parm on the
IUCV statement in the directory entry; I think the max value for that
parm is 64K, but check
Who among those of us who do not speak Latin
Bloody barbarians. They don't speak Greek either! 8-)
So before you go on about the bloody Romans, don't you forget...
you're one of 'em!
-- Not the Messiah, He's a Very Naughty Boy!
As I know nothing of the guts of Jovial I can't say if this would
affect it. If it does then will it run on a really old VM system on
Hercules. Critical question is what apps are you running and where do
they get there data from and send it too...
Dave Wade G4UGM
Illegitimi Non
ur z/VM environment currently sits behind a firewall. We would like to
allow one Linux guest to act as an Internet server. We do not however
want to expose the other Linux guests or the z/VM environment itself to
the outside world. We are using VSWITCH.
Good. That makes a few things possible.
¿SPXTAPE will support dump to disk in the future?
There's a requirement for supporting PIPE connections like the DDR mods that
were just made available. Status is unknown at the moment other than IBM has
seen it and seems to understand the desire for the function, but hasn't made
any
On 8/21/08 5:49 PM, Karl Severson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The
compiler was originally written to run on MVS but it was tweaked for us t
o
run on VM in 370 mode back in the mid 1980¹s.
If you truly still need 370 mode, you're going to be hard pressed to find a
system that will still run
To avoid dragging these two lists off-topic constantly, by grace of the
fine people at Marist College, a mailing list called sol-390 has been
created to discuss the forthcoming availability of the OpenSolaris port
for System z. We're very, very close, and if you're interested in the
topic, I'd
Dave Jones say:
In the interim, everybody order and install VM64466 for your 5.3
z/VM
systems.
The PTF to order that goes with this APAR is: UM32414
And note that it is for z/VM 5.3 only.
Thanks, Dave. I could remember the APAR #, but not the PTF number.
Too bloody many lawyers. First
A while ago there was a thread here about the ability to DDR DASD to
remote
location. Well there is an answer! I modified DDR so it can
communicate
with CMS PIPES (DDR can now be a pipe stage). The modules can be
downloaded from here:
Yep, George has been working on this project with that exact
requirement in mind.
Fantastic. That's exactly what I wanted to hear.
Q: does this version also include the CMSDDR mods?
No, this is an otherwise unmodified DDR module.
Yeah, about 3 seconds after hitting send I realized that
LOL. George left one small thing off of his signature:
z/VM I/O Development
IBM Endicott
Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott
Well, far be it from me that I suggest that VM Development begin to talk
to themselves. You lot 're odd enough to begin with...8-)
-- db
for i in $(find /usr/share/man/man*) -name \*gz; do
gzip -dc $i | nroff | lpr
done
Note that this also doesn't include the GNU binutils documentation or
any of the stuff that is in 'info' format.
If you want PDF, substitute 'ps2pdf -o $i' for 'lpr'.
No, don't actually do this.
Maybe IBM could create a Windows compiled Help file for those using a
Windows desktop and INFO or MAN files for those using a Linux desktop.
There is a pdf2docbook utility from Cambridge Systems. It produces ugly,
ugly output (like most Docbook related things), but it's one way to
handle PDFs.
That's going to be complicated because every program you install becomes a
new command, and some commands could be books all to themselves. There's
also the complication that there are several variations to how documentation
for Linux commands is prepared and maintained. All packages are
It's part of CUF. It monitors virtual machines and restarts them if
necessary. See http://www.vm.ibm.com/related/CUF/.
-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
Behalf Of Gentry, Stephen
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 1:58 PM
To:
I would just like to point out that Alan Altmark's long-standing wish
for a pony has been satisfied. A brown and white pony has been
delivered, and he has no need for further ponies. 8-)
-- db
Does this approach get around the stack limit some way? If we try to
put
800
machines on a VLAN, will this blow the limit referenced below?
The layer 2 TYPE ETHERNET VSWITCH gets the OSA limits out of the line of
fire entirely -- the OSA(s) (note multiple) servicing the VSWITCH just
forward
Hmm. If the package passes through RSCS, since RSCS doesn't support
NETDATA with multiple datasets, won't the package get exploded on
transmission?
Does anyone have a procedure for combining multiple CMS files into a
sing
le
XMIT data file?
/Tom Kern
/301-903-2211
The z9, with updated OSA microcode, can also run the OSA port in
shared layer 2 and layer 3 mode..
Nifty. Thanks -- one of these days I'll get my brain upgraded for more
short term storage. 8-)
--db
TAPPDS and TAPEMAC can reassemble unloaded PDSes on CMS. In looking
around, also look for INMR123 REXX on your S disk. That seems to do
something like what you might want.
I suspect that the 'some data' is an IEBCOPY unloaded PDS. Now I have
an
assembler program that reads an IEBCOPY unloaded
But, searching a PDF for a keyword is far less good than the search
method in bookmanager read, both in performance and in the
presentation of the search result. (Even though FoxitReader searches
faster than Acrobat reader, both need to scan the whole PDF file what
takes time).
Only if the
Key word: selected. You've been able to do this for a while -- .Net
stuff with Mono, ASP stuff with various toolkits, etc. Nothing new here.
*Moving selected Linux, Windows(r), and UNIX(r) workloads to a
single
System z server
Alan
Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
-snip-
I'm sure *someone* will speak up and say, Well *I* worked on a
Babbage's
first difference engine. Knew the man well. He was a geek's geek.
Whoever speaks up, my hat's off to you. You win!
It's more likely someone will have claimed to
We still use BookMaster 1.4 here to build documents we distribute to
clients and such. I
think it's about the best way ever for doing computer related
documentation of most kinds.
Me too. Doc tools written by people who actually have to *use* them.
Best system I've seen.
Wonder if we could
There are already Java libraries to front-end Sun RPC, so that would be one way
to go about it. You'd have to feed the RPC stubs to rpcgen to get a proper
mapping for your system, but that's not unusual behavior for Sun RPC app
interfaces.
From: The IBM z/VM
My fave is LOAD HALFWORD RELATIVE LONG.
Say it a few times and it's practically a poem!
Chant it, and it'd make a decent mantra. 8-)
Yes, but they still do not have DWIM.
The Z doesn't, but my Xerox Dandelion does.
I don't know about running a guest operating system designed for a
370 machine like MVS or DOS/VS. I think you would need SET MACHINE
370.
Very likely. Also keep in mind that most of the 370 mode support in the
processors themselves is gone, so SET MACHINE 370 might not work at all.
Hercules
I think it is reasonable to use VMSYS and VMSYSU in the same manner
that
IBM
uses them in the 'default' RMSMASTER configuration. For applications
that
are LOCAL to this system, I put control type information (config
files) i
n
VMSYS and use VMSYSU for work and logfiles. At disaster
I don't know why Unix used NL (==LF) instead. Perhaps a different har
dware device?
One reason (probably not the only one, but one):
Bare CR on the model of DECwriter commonly shipped as PDP-11 console
terminals tended to foul the ribbon, especially if you issued it from
40 character
Samples are just that, samples, not Holy Writ from ${DIETY}. You can,
of
course, choose to do anything you like.
Well, as the author, I rather like the idea of saying let us turn to
chapter 2 of the Gospel of Installation... 8-) YMMV.
The idea with the 15x separation was to have a small
How can the z handle 3000 copies of Windows all running a
graphic user
interface (cpu-intensive) ?
Probably the Windows Server 2008 configuration, which can have the GUI
disabled.
Gee. Shades of OS/2 Warp. 8-)
-- db
assume that the document SUSE Linux Enterprise Server Starter
System Z' is an update to the SHARE handout. Is that the case?
Nope. It's a completely separate document.
We have a one year contract with Novell until May 2009.
They gave us a unique activation code. They told me to download
the CD1-CD2 disks from their site.
Can I use the SUSE Linux Enterprise Server Starter
System for System z to install it?
I'm confused...
Maybe this will help:
The
On 7/18/08 4:33 PM, Quay, Jonathan (IHG) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok, I have a license and I'm about to download and install SLES10SP2.
Can I somehow, and I haven't completely read through the Starter Set
documentation, download the SLES-10-SP2-DVD-s390x-GM-DVD1 and 2 .iso
images and serve
At his point, CP, bloodlust sated, settles down to watch over his
harem of
virtual machines, secure in the knowledge The Operator will maintain
order
in the universe. (Sorry - it's VM Week on the Discovery Channel.)
Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott
Lions and tigers and bears...
It sure would be nice if there were a requirement against z/VM to
provide
such a function. Everyone keeps asking everyone else, but no one ever
asks *us*. (sniff)
Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott
Ask and ye shall receive. WAVV requirement WRIBDB01 for the next
meeting.
-- db
Alan, with your reply of I'm not Dave, but
Daves not here man
Someone name that album
Cheech and Chong, 1971.
Quality entertainment, that. But, let's not go there, man...
-- db
Assuming
they don't have an answer for you, tell them you want to open a
requirement.
Submitted as WAVV requirement WRIBDB02.
Not that anybody is likely to care, but this is a facility to install
z/Linux under z/VM using only CMS. It is a nice way to get a z/Linux
system up quickly.
It also makes a very nice upgrade server if you're moving from SLES 9 or
previous SLES 10 releases. 8-)
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