As one of the SWAPGEN authors, I've watched this discussion.
I'd note that Barton's original statement stands, in the context in which he
said it: VDISK has always provided better *performance* in every observed case.
The concerns about using up real memory have never been supported by the data
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Phil Smith III li...@akphs.com wrote:
The pathological cases of This guest runs away, real Swap DASD gives me a
chance to control it are perfectly valid, but don't contradict the statement
that VDISK is better *for performance*; rather, they support it.
Let
Of Rob van der Heij
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The pathological cases of This guest runs away, real Swap DASD gives
me a chance to control it are perfectly valid
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Maybe -- but having a real disk (and setting an alert for that) helps
isolate the issue to a single guest rather than affecting critical shared
resources (in this case memory
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Right - I got that from Barton's post.
Consider that there are times when using
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Rich Smrcina rsmrc...@wi.rr.com wrote:
Both ESALPS and the Performance Toolkit will show that an unused Vdisk will
use very little storage. Even if you do manage to start using it, after a
certain amount of time it is likely to get paged out if unreferenced
, 2009 6:42 PM
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giving real disks to swap is a real waste of resource. It is much
better to take the extra disk resource that you allocate but never
want to use, and assign it to z/VM paging to enhance your paging
subsystem. Then define two vdisks
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Right - I got that from Barton's post.
Consider
Subject: Re: SWAPGEN
giving real disks to swap is a real waste of resource. It is much
better to take the extra disk resource that you allocate but never
want to use, and assign it to z/VM paging to enhance your paging
subsystem. Then define two vdisks for swap, prioritize them, and set an
alert
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You might want to take a look at vm.swappiness setting. (see
disk is being used.
Martin, Terry R. (LOCKHEED MARTIN Performance Engineering/CTR) (CTR) wrote:
Hi
I am using SWAPGEN to define by z/Linux VDISKS I also want to define a
real disk for swap. My question is can I use SWAPGEN to define a swap on
real DASD? If you have an example of the control
two vdisks for swap, prioritize them, and set an alert when the
2nd disk is being used.
Martin, Terry R. (LOCKHEED MARTIN Performance Engineering/CTR) (CTR)
wrote:
Hi
I am using SWAPGEN to define by z/Linux VDISKS I also want to define a
real disk for swap. M
. DASD is not 'that' slow anymore.
Doug
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Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 18:13
Subject: Re: SWAPGEN
Maybe -- but having a real disk (and setting an alert for that) helps
isolate the issue to a single
Hi
I am using SWAPGEN to define by z/Linux VDISKS I also want to define a
real disk for swap. My question is can I use SWAPGEN to define a swap on
real DASD? If you have an example of the control card syntax to
accomplish this that would be great?
Thank You,
Terry Martin
Lockheed
On 4/26/2009 at 10:44 PM, Martin, Terry R. (LOCKHEED MARTIN
Performance Engineering/CTR) (CTR) terry.mar...@cms.hhs.gov
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I am using SWAPGEN to define by z/Linux VDISKS I also want to define a
real disk for swap. My question is can I use SWAPGEN to define a swap
On Apr 26, 2009, at 9:44 PM, Martin, Terry R. (LOCKHEED MARTIN
Performance Engineering/CTR) (CTR) wrote:
Hi
I am using SWAPGEN to define by z/Linux VDISKS I also want to define
a real disk for swap. My question is can I use SWAPGEN to define a
swap on real DASD? If you have an example
Hi
I am trying to use the SWAPGEN EXEC to create a FBA SWAP file by adding
it to the PROFILE EXEC of the Linux guest. However it seems to keep
taking the default of DIAG. Since I do not have the DIAG drivers on my
RedHat REL4 guest I need to do FBA. Here is he syntax I am using:
'SWAPGEN
On Nov 7, 2008, at 4:30 PM, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) wrote:
Hi
I am trying to use the SWAPGEN EXEC to create a FBA SWAP file by
adding it to the PROFILE EXEC of the Linux guest. However it seems
to keep taking the default of DIAG. Since I do not have the DIAG
drivers on my
On 11/7/2008 at 5:30 PM, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
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'SWAPGEN 900 524288 FBA'
Have you tried
'SWAPGEN 900 524288 ( FBA'
??
Mark Post
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On Nov 7, 2008, at 4:30 PM, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) wrote:
Hi
I am
Hello List,
The past day I have tried to get the new version of SWAPGEN into my VM bu
t
no success so far. I have tried every way I can do a filetransfer but
every time I end up in a file I can't use on VM. Can anyone send me the
VMARC-ed version of the current SWAPGEN so I can continue? I do
On Aug 7, 2008, at 4:28 AM, Berry van Sleeuwen wrote:
Hello List,
The past day I have tried to get the new version of SWAPGEN into my
VM but
no success so far. I have tried every way I can do a filetransfer but
every time I end up in a file I can't use on VM. Can anyone send me
the
VMARC
Hi, Berry.
Adam Thornton wrote:
On Aug 7, 2008, at 4:28 AM, Berry van Sleeuwen wrote:
Hello List,
The past day I have tried to get the new version of SWAPGEN into my VM
but
no success so far. I have tried every way I can do a filetransfer but
every time I end up in a file I can't use on VM
Hi Dave,
The SWAPGEN creates the VDISK and the zLinux does accept the disk. But
swap is not activated on the disk. To activate the swap I have to issue
a mkswap before swapon. And after booting the guest it must be done again.
I don't know if it is a problem with swapgen, with linux or some
of SWAPGEN into my
VM but
no success so far. I have tried every way I can do a filetransfer but
every time I end up in a file I can't use on VM. Can anyone send me the
VMARC-ed version of the current SWAPGEN so I can continue? I do have the
old version here but there seemds to be a problem with my VDISK
Rob van der Heij [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am concerned about the approach of teaching adults to download and
just run it to see what happens That's one of the aspects that
distinguishes us from the folks who close their eyes and do Next,
next, finish and end up re-install their operating
Thanks Fernando and DavidDave Jones sent me a VMARC version of SWAPGE
N
and it is working fine.
To David Boyes :I tried what you suggested but when I Downloaded it to my
PC
then VM the file got mangled. I tried every possible way...maybe there i
s
something wrong on my PC, anyway am now
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Thanks Fernando and DavidDave Jones sent me a VMARC version of
SWAPGE= N
Dave_de_Noronha wrote:
I am trying to download the SWAPGEN EXEC from the Sine Nomine website and
cannot get it in a format we can use. I do not understand why it is in
Mailable format. Can anyone please tell me how to do it or, if possible
send me the code
What problem are you having
What problem are you having?
It would be nice to have some cookbook-style steps of how to use SWAPGEN
on the Web site. On http://www.sinenomine.net/products/vm/swapgen the only
instructions I see are:
The VMARC file contains the updates to the module and control files, the
EXEC, the RXDASD
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 4:26 PM, Michael MacIsaac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What problem are you having?
I am concerned about the approach of teaching adults to download and
just run it to see what happens That's one of the aspects that
distinguishes us from the folks who close their eyes and
On Jun 19, 2008, at 9:00 AM, Phil Smith III wrote:
Dave_de_Noronha wrote:
I am trying to download the SWAPGEN EXEC from the Sine Nomine
website and
cannot get it in a format we can use. I do not understand why it
is in
Mailable format. Can anyone please tell me how to do
Hi
I am trying to download the SWAPGEN EXEC from the Sine Nomine website and
cannot get it in a format we can use. I do not understand why it is in
Mailable format. Can anyone please tell me how to do it or, if possible
send me the code
Tia
Dave
It's in MAILABLE format because it's actually a package of several
files.
Download the MAILABLE file to your VM system. RENAME the file to
SWPG0803 EXEC and run it to extract the 11 encoded files. Use and
enjoy.
I've removed the extraneous line end from the copy on
www.sinenomine.net. Should be happy now.
(crossposted to Linux-390 and IBMVM, since many folks support either
Linux systems or VM systems or both)
Posting a recent update to SWAPGEN prompted several people to contribute
additional goodies, so I've posted a new version of SWAPGEN (version
0803). The file SWPG0803 MAILABLE
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