Re: SWAPGEN

2009-05-02 Thread Phil Smith III
As one of the SWAPGEN authors, I've watched this discussion. I'd note that Barton's original statement stands, in the context in which he said it: VDISK has always provided better *performance* in every observed case. The concerns about using up real memory have never been supported by the data

Re: SWAPGEN

2009-05-02 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Phil Smith III li...@akphs.com wrote: The pathological cases of This guest runs away, real Swap DASD gives me a chance to control it are perfectly valid, but don't contradict the statement that VDISK is better *for performance*; rather, they support it. Let

Re: SWAPGEN

2009-05-02 Thread Martin, Terry R. (LOCKHEED MARTIN Performance Engineering/CTR) (CTR)
Of Rob van der Heij Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 9:32 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: SWAPGEN On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Phil Smith III li...@akphs.com wrote: The pathological cases of This guest runs away, real Swap DASD gives me a chance to control it are perfectly valid

Re: SWAPGEN

2009-05-01 Thread Tom Duerbusch
- From: Scott Rohling To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 18:13 Subject: Re: SWAPGEN Maybe -- but having a real disk (and setting an alert for that) helps isolate the issue to a single guest rather than affecting critical shared resources (in this case memory

Re: SWAPGEN

2009-04-30 Thread Mike Walter
...@gmail.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 04/29/2009 08:51 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: SWAPGEN Right - I got that from Barton's post. Consider that there are times when using

Re: SWAPGEN

2009-04-30 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Rich Smrcina rsmrc...@wi.rr.com wrote: Both ESALPS and the Performance Toolkit will show that an unused Vdisk will use very little storage.  Even if you do manage to start using it, after a certain amount of time it is likely to get paged out if unreferenced

Re: SWAPGEN

2009-04-30 Thread Martin, Terry R. (LOCKHEED MARTIN Performance Engineering/CTR) (CTR)
, 2009 6:42 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: SWAPGEN giving real disks to swap is a real waste of resource. It is much better to take the extra disk resource that you allocate but never want to use, and assign it to z/VM paging to enhance your paging subsystem. Then define two vdisks

Re: SWAPGEN

2009-04-30 Thread Martin, Terry R. (LOCKHEED MARTIN Performance Engineering/CTR) (CTR)
...@cms.hhs.gov From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Rohling Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 9:51 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: SWAPGEN Right - I got that from Barton's post. Consider

Re: SWAPGEN

2009-04-30 Thread Barton Robinson
Subject: Re: SWAPGEN giving real disks to swap is a real waste of resource. It is much better to take the extra disk resource that you allocate but never want to use, and assign it to z/VM paging to enhance your paging subsystem. Then define two vdisks for swap, prioritize them, and set an alert

Re: SWAPGEN

2009-04-30 Thread Martin, Terry R. (LOCKHEED MARTIN Performance Engineering/CTR) (CTR)
terry.mar...@cms.hhs.gov -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 8:41 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: SWAPGEN You might want to take a look at vm.swappiness setting. (see

Re: SWAPGEN

2009-04-29 Thread Barton Robinson
disk is being used. Martin, Terry R. (LOCKHEED MARTIN Performance Engineering/CTR) (CTR) wrote: Hi I am using SWAPGEN to define by z/Linux VDISKS I also want to define a real disk for swap. My question is can I use SWAPGEN to define a swap on real DASD? If you have an example of the control

Re: SWAPGEN

2009-04-29 Thread Rich Smrcina
two vdisks for swap, prioritize them, and set an alert when the 2nd disk is being used. Martin, Terry R. (LOCKHEED MARTIN Performance Engineering/CTR) (CTR) wrote: Hi I am using SWAPGEN to define by z/Linux VDISKS I also want to define a real disk for swap. M

Re: SWAPGEN

2009-04-29 Thread Doug Shupe
. DASD is not 'that' slow anymore. Doug - Original Message - From: Scott Rohling To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 18:13 Subject: Re: SWAPGEN Maybe -- but having a real disk (and setting an alert for that) helps isolate the issue to a single

SWAPGEN

2009-04-26 Thread Martin, Terry R. (LOCKHEED MARTIN Performance Engineering/CTR) (CTR)
Hi I am using SWAPGEN to define by z/Linux VDISKS I also want to define a real disk for swap. My question is can I use SWAPGEN to define a swap on real DASD? If you have an example of the control card syntax to accomplish this that would be great? Thank You, Terry Martin Lockheed

Re: SWAPGEN

2009-04-26 Thread Mark Post
On 4/26/2009 at 10:44 PM, Martin, Terry R. (LOCKHEED MARTIN Performance Engineering/CTR) (CTR) terry.mar...@cms.hhs.gov wrote: I am using SWAPGEN to define by z/Linux VDISKS I also want to define a real disk for swap. My question is can I use SWAPGEN to define a swap

Re: SWAPGEN

2009-04-26 Thread Adam Thornton
On Apr 26, 2009, at 9:44 PM, Martin, Terry R. (LOCKHEED MARTIN Performance Engineering/CTR) (CTR) wrote: Hi I am using SWAPGEN to define by z/Linux VDISKS I also want to define a real disk for swap. My question is can I use SWAPGEN to define a swap on real DASD? If you have an example

SWAPGEN not working for FBA

2008-11-07 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Hi I am trying to use the SWAPGEN EXEC to create a FBA SWAP file by adding it to the PROFILE EXEC of the Linux guest. However it seems to keep taking the default of DIAG. Since I do not have the DIAG drivers on my RedHat REL4 guest I need to do FBA. Here is he syntax I am using: 'SWAPGEN

Re: SWAPGEN not working for FBA

2008-11-07 Thread Adam Thornton
On Nov 7, 2008, at 4:30 PM, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) wrote: Hi I am trying to use the SWAPGEN EXEC to create a FBA SWAP file by adding it to the PROFILE EXEC of the Linux guest. However it seems to keep taking the default of DIAG. Since I do not have the DIAG drivers on my

Re: SWAPGEN not working for FBA

2008-11-07 Thread Mark Post
On 11/7/2008 at 5:30 PM, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- 'SWAPGEN 900 524288 FBA' Have you tried 'SWAPGEN 900 524288 ( FBA' ?? Mark Post

Re: SWAPGEN not working for FBA

2008-11-07 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
] From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Thornton Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 5:39 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: SWAPGEN not working for FBA On Nov 7, 2008, at 4:30 PM, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) wrote: Hi I am

SWAPGEN EXEC

2008-08-07 Thread Berry van Sleeuwen
Hello List, The past day I have tried to get the new version of SWAPGEN into my VM bu t no success so far. I have tried every way I can do a filetransfer but every time I end up in a file I can't use on VM. Can anyone send me the VMARC-ed version of the current SWAPGEN so I can continue? I do

Re: SWAPGEN EXEC

2008-08-07 Thread Adam Thornton
On Aug 7, 2008, at 4:28 AM, Berry van Sleeuwen wrote: Hello List, The past day I have tried to get the new version of SWAPGEN into my VM but no success so far. I have tried every way I can do a filetransfer but every time I end up in a file I can't use on VM. Can anyone send me the VMARC

Re: SWAPGEN EXEC

2008-08-07 Thread Dave Jones
Hi, Berry. Adam Thornton wrote: On Aug 7, 2008, at 4:28 AM, Berry van Sleeuwen wrote: Hello List, The past day I have tried to get the new version of SWAPGEN into my VM but no success so far. I have tried every way I can do a filetransfer but every time I end up in a file I can't use on VM

Re: SWAPGEN EXEC

2008-08-07 Thread Berry van Sleeuwen
Hi Dave, The SWAPGEN creates the VDISK and the zLinux does accept the disk. But swap is not activated on the disk. To activate the swap I have to issue a mkswap before swapon. And after booting the guest it must be done again. I don't know if it is a problem with swapgen, with linux or some

Re: SWAPGEN EXEC

2008-08-07 Thread Berry van Sleeuwen
of SWAPGEN into my VM but no success so far. I have tried every way I can do a filetransfer but every time I end up in a file I can't use on VM. Can anyone send me the VMARC-ed version of the current SWAPGEN so I can continue? I do have the old version here but there seemds to be a problem with my VDISK

Re: SWAPGEN EXEC

2008-06-20 Thread Phil Smith III
Rob van der Heij [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am concerned about the approach of teaching adults to download and just run it to see what happens That's one of the aspects that distinguishes us from the folks who close their eyes and do Next, next, finish and end up re-install their operating

Re: SWAPGEN EXEC

2008-06-19 Thread Dave de Noronha
Thanks Fernando and DavidDave Jones sent me a VMARC version of SWAPGE N and it is working fine. To David Boyes :I tried what you suggested but when I Downloaded it to my PC then VM the file got mangled. I tried every possible way...maybe there i s something wrong on my PC, anyway am now

Re: SWAPGEN EXEC

2008-06-19 Thread Shedlock, George
-3541 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave de Noronha Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 2:14 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: SWAPGEN EXEC Thanks Fernando and DavidDave Jones sent me a VMARC version of SWAPGE= N

Re: SWAPGEN EXEC

2008-06-19 Thread Phil Smith III
Dave_de_Noronha wrote: I am trying to download the SWAPGEN EXEC from the Sine Nomine website and cannot get it in a format we can use. I do not understand why it is in Mailable format. Can anyone please tell me how to do it or, if possible send me the code What problem are you having

Re: SWAPGEN EXEC

2008-06-19 Thread Michael MacIsaac
What problem are you having? It would be nice to have some cookbook-style steps of how to use SWAPGEN on the Web site. On http://www.sinenomine.net/products/vm/swapgen the only instructions I see are: The VMARC file contains the updates to the module and control files, the EXEC, the RXDASD

Re: SWAPGEN EXEC

2008-06-19 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 4:26 PM, Michael MacIsaac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What problem are you having? I am concerned about the approach of teaching adults to download and just run it to see what happens That's one of the aspects that distinguishes us from the folks who close their eyes and

Re: SWAPGEN EXEC

2008-06-19 Thread Adam Thornton
On Jun 19, 2008, at 9:00 AM, Phil Smith III wrote: Dave_de_Noronha wrote: I am trying to download the SWAPGEN EXEC from the Sine Nomine website and cannot get it in a format we can use. I do not understand why it is in Mailable format. Can anyone please tell me how to do

SWAPGEN EXEC

2008-06-18 Thread Dave de Noronha
Hi I am trying to download the SWAPGEN EXEC from the Sine Nomine website and cannot get it in a format we can use. I do not understand why it is in Mailable format. Can anyone please tell me how to do it or, if possible send me the code Tia Dave

Re: SWAPGEN EXEC

2008-06-18 Thread David Boyes
It's in MAILABLE format because it's actually a package of several files. Download the MAILABLE file to your VM system. RENAME the file to SWPG0803 EXEC and run it to extract the 11 encoded files. Use and enjoy.

Re: FW: SWAPGEN version 0803

2008-05-05 Thread David Boyes
I've removed the extraneous line end from the copy on www.sinenomine.net. Should be happy now.

SWAPGEN version 0803 posted

2008-04-30 Thread David Boyes
(crossposted to Linux-390 and IBMVM, since many folks support either Linux systems or VM systems or both) Posting a recent update to SWAPGEN prompted several people to contribute additional goodies, so I've posted a new version of SWAPGEN (version 0803). The file SWPG0803 MAILABLE