[The Java Posse] Re: desugaring Scala for comprehensions

2014-06-20 Thread Eric Pederson
The desugaring is also explained in detail in Odersky's book Programming in Scala here: http://www.artima.com/pins1ed/for-expressions-revisited.html#23.4 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Java Posse group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: #418: Comments should be treated as a lesser-evil 'code smell'.

2013-04-17 Thread Eric Jablow
variable, or do you use a static inner class ID that contains a Long? The first is easy to write, while the second is easy to read and ensures that no one compares Employee.ID to Department.ID. Respectfully, Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Java

[The Java Posse] Re: #418: Comments should be treated as a lesser-evil 'code smell'.

2013-04-15 Thread Eric Jablow
that they need nontrivial comments. Duff's_device http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duff's_device and the Quake 3 inverse square root http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_inverse_square_root algorithms are the poster chldren for necessary comments. Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Book - JavaScript for Java Programmers?

2013-04-08 Thread Eric Jablow
customers have had their brains sequestered along with their jobs. Respectfully, Eric Jablow -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Java Posse group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to javaposse+unsubscr

Re: [The Java Posse] Digest for javaposse@googlegroups.com - 1 Message in 1 Topic

2013-03-25 Thread Eric Jablow
side a lot of discussion on non-Java-topics. I'm a little concerned and it appears to me like the podcast team has lost its motivation or is too busy. After the last podcast, I think I see the problem. They're too busy trading wood for sheep. Eric -- You received this message because you

Re: [The Java Posse] Digest for java...@googlegroups.com - 25 Messages in 1 Topic

2013-02-04 Thread Eric Jablow
us at our national game, we’d do well to remember that, twice this century, we have beaten them at theirs. Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Java Posse group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

Re: [The Java Posse] Recommendations for jQuery and Bootstrap books ?

2013-01-18 Thread Eric Pederson
Secrets of the Javascript Ninja is really good. It's written by John Resig, the creator of JQuery (though JQuery is not the focus of the book). I also recommend Javascript, the Good Parts. There is a Packt book on Bootstrap, but I haven't read it and there's a O'Reilly book on Angular

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Don't be evil(?)

2012-11-14 Thread Eric Jablow
at the Balen Report, for example. And, since the BBC is funded by the television license fee, it is nearly immune to criticism. In short, the BBC cheats the tax payers too. Respectfully, Eric Jablow -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Java Posse group. To view

[The Java Posse] Re: Reflections on Trusting Trust (Podcast 397)

2012-11-01 Thread Eric Jablow
make it out of Bell Labs, notably to BBN, and that it enabled at least one late-night login across the network by someone using the login name “kt”. Respectfully, Eric Jablow -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Java Posse group. To view

[The Java Posse] Reflections on Trusting Trust (Podcast 397)

2012-10-30 Thread Eric Jablow
The Turing Award lecture was Reflections on Trusting Trust. by Ken Thompson, in 1984. See http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=358210. Respectfully, Eric Jablow -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Java Posse group. To view this discussion on the web

[The Java Posse] Re: JavaDoc and Comments

2012-08-20 Thread Eric Jablow
of measure. We don't want our programs to crash into Mars. At least we all have TimeUnit.convert. respectfully, Eric Jablow -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Java Posse group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/javaposse

[The Java Posse] Re: Option

2012-06-05 Thread Eric Jablow
reasonable declarations: id foo = nil; [foo shout:@I don't exist.]; // Does nothing. double weight = [foo weight]; // Does nothing but returns 0.0; id bar = [foo parent]; // Does nothing but returns nil; None of these would cause a stack trace or raise any sort of error condition. Respectfully, Eric

[The Java Posse] Re: BigDecimal and Java Posse #379, Roundup '11 - ReSTful AMF

2012-03-16 Thread Eric Jablow
? Should it have (BIN|DEC) (FIXED|FLOAT) types? It's been a long time since I took my freshman PL/I class. Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups The Java Posse group. To post to this group, send email to javaposse@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from

[The Java Posse] Re: The Java Tree Withers

2012-01-25 Thread Eric Jablow
})?. Should the community try to develop classes for common notions? Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.ithttp://tidalwave.it-http://fabriziogiudici.it Respectfully, Eric Jablow -- You received

[The Java Posse] Re: Is polyglot programming dead?

2012-01-23 Thread Eric Jablow
. Respectfully, Eric Jablow -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups The Java Posse group. To post to this group, send email to javaposse@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit

[The Java Posse] Podcast 374: Bacon

2012-01-05 Thread Eric Jablow
Are you looking for the Bacon Explosion: a weave of bacon surrounding 2 pounds of Italian sausage? http://www.bbqaddicts.com/blog/recipes/bacon-explosion/ Very treyfe. Respectfully, Eric Jablow -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups The Java Posse group

Re: Stability annotations was Re: [The Java Posse] Actors in Java: Akka Jetlang

2012-01-04 Thread Eric Jablow
that the Google Annotation Gallery could be added to a Maven repository? I know it was an April Fool's joke, but having @WTF and @RTFM might be useful at certain cruel workplaces. Respectfully, Eric Jablow -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups The Java Posse group

[The Java Posse] Re: Computing and kids

2011-10-04 Thread Eric Jablow
console switches on the Brooklyn College computer department's old PDP-8. So there! Respectfully, Eric Jablow -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups The Java Posse group. To post to this group, send email to javaposse@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from

[The Java Posse] Re: Jetbrains gets into the language game with Kotlin

2011-07-21 Thread Eric Jablow
were bigger than Jesus. Respectfully, Eric Jablow -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups The Java Posse group. To post to this group, send email to javaposse@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to javaposse+unsubscr

[The Java Posse] Re: #354: Strangest Loop Competition, 2011 Edition

2011-06-17 Thread Eric Jablow
use Lingua::Romana::Perligata; dum unum sic This tum is tum a tum very tum strange tum loop inquementum tum novumversum egresso scribe. cis. Respectfully, Eric Jablow -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups The Java Posse group. To post to this group

[The Java Posse] Re: Vs: Re: How many characters do you use for indention?

2011-05-18 Thread Eric Jablow
, styles, and colors are significant. Instead of writing a[3], one would write a (subscript)3. They're fitting me for my straitjacket now. Eric P.S. Is there a J-Intercal yet? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups The Java Posse group. To post to this group

[The Java Posse] Re: package.html vs. package-info.java

2011-05-05 Thread Eric Jablow
for these annotations Respectfully, Eric Jablow -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups The Java Posse group. To post to this group, send email to javaposse@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com

[The Java Posse] Re: Who is using Sonar?

2011-04-25 Thread Eric Winter
, and make sure it is used as such. If this is imposed from above, it can be used as a stick to beat other projects. The figures given by Sonar are an indication, not an absolute value of the quality of a project. Matthew. 2011/4/25 Eric Winter ejwin...@gmail.com: We are using it on my team

[The Java Posse] Who is using Sonar?

2011-04-24 Thread Eric Winter
it could really help focus us and our leadership on the quality and maintainability of our code. Thoughts? Cheers, Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups The Java Posse group. To post to this group, send email to javaposse@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe

[The Java Posse] Re: Feedback please... Flubber for Android - enhancements

2011-04-02 Thread Eric Jablow
On Apr 1, 4:54 am, Phil p...@surfsoftconsulting.com wrote: @IdeallyWrittenIn(Scala) @Avast protected void (View v, ButtonType buttonType) { The Google Annotation Gallery was so last year. Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups The Java Posse

[The Java Posse] Re: Concerned about Tor's mental health

2011-03-18 Thread Eric Jablow
, or some other manufacturer. Some shows have a strict dichotomy: good guys use Macs, evil guys use Windows. And companies breeding dinosaurs use a UNIX system. Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups The Java Posse group. To post to this group, send

[The Java Posse] Re: Are there any libraries w/ a Number type that superceeds the functionality living on BigDecimal + BigInteger etc

2011-03-16 Thread Eric Jablow
; that's a tricky one to do efficiently. Respectfully, Eric Jablow -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups The Java Posse group. To post to this group, send email to javaposse@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to javaposse+unsubscr

[The Java Posse] Re: Do scientists agonize over syntax as much as we do?

2011-03-15 Thread Eric Jablow
/status/47304518869848065 (here is my original tweet http://twitter.com/#!/cbeust/status/47151793817403392) :-) I do wish that Java would allow Unicode equivalents for certain operators. In a UTF-8 source code file, if (a ≤ b) seems preferable to if (a = b). -- Cédric Eric -- You received

[The Java Posse] Re: My month-long search for a web framework - results

2011-02-23 Thread Eric
: Facebook is NOT written in Java. Its written in php and compiled to c++ On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Eric e.d.program...@gmail.com wrote: Our first web designer wrote our entire web site in Flash. Our second web designer rewrote our entire web site in Wordpress. Our current web

[The Java Posse] Re: My month-long search for a web framework - results

2011-02-22 Thread Eric
Our first web designer wrote our entire web site in Flash. Our second web designer rewrote our entire web site in Wordpress. Our current web designer is rewriting the entire web site in Abode CS5 (Dreamweaver?). Facebook is written in Java. It uses Ajax to load the page piece by piece. You can

[The Java Posse] Re: #340: various comments

2011-02-11 Thread Eric
:07 am, Ricky Clarkson ricky.clark...@gmail.com wrote: I think you must have forgotten to mention the big advantage, instead leaving It can run Flash in there.  Did you send the email too early, or was it a joke? On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Eric e.d.program...@gmail.com wrote: The TV

[The Java Posse] Re: 64bit JDK on Windoze?

2011-02-11 Thread Eric
I'm running the 64 bit JDK on my laptop but I've only begun to compile programs on it so I don't know much about performance differences. I thought 64 bit was supposed to be better at using up memory to get more performance. Is more CPU usage a good thing? Is there a noticeable performance

[The Java Posse] Re: Java still TIOBE King

2011-02-11 Thread Eric Jablow
guess... ~ Graham (a Scot)  :-p Or movies that subtitle other dialects. Do you speak jive? Today is Leslie Nielsen's birthday. Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups The Java Posse group. To post to this group, send email to javaposse

[The Java Posse] Re: #340: various comments

2011-02-10 Thread Eric
The TV news this morning sounds related to your topic. 1. iPhone 4 goes on sale today for Verizon, which can also be purchased at Best Buy and WalMart. 2. HP is selling a device like an iPad, same size, with one big advantage. It can run Flash. On Feb 10, 7:49 am, Karsten Silz

[The Java Posse] Java Swing problem

2011-02-09 Thread Eric
I searched Google Groups for a group to get help with Java programming problems and this was the first one that came up that didn't look like help wanted ads, though it appears most of the posts are general Java discussions rather than actual programming. Is this a good group for a programming

[The Java Posse] Re: Java Swing problem

2011-02-09 Thread Eric
Odd that a request on Google Groups about which group to try for help with Java got several responses all pointing to other websites. In the lag time between making this post here and having it appear on this group thread list I did find a Java group called comp.lang.java.help. I didn't exactly

[The Java Posse] Re: Java Swing problem

2011-02-09 Thread Eric
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[The Java Posse] Re: Java Swing problem

2011-02-09 Thread Eric
) {         cardLayout.show(contentPane, Progress Panel);         repaint();     } } Though I doubt you even need the repaint(). On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 9:09 PM, Eric e.d.program...@gmail.com wrote: My first attempt at threading is a failure.  The gui still appears to update only after my

[The Java Posse] Re: {{}} (#338)

2011-02-02 Thread Eric Jablow
) { if(other == null || getClass() != other.getClass()) { return false; } // stuff } If one of this and other are examples of an instance-initialized inner class, this will return false. That's okay, unless that instance is put into a HashSet, or becomes a HashMap key. Eric

[The Java Posse] Re: For loop is harmful

2011-01-07 Thread Eric Jablow
(); for (String s: iterable) { b.append(separator).append(s); } return b.toString(); } --- The exercise is to extend this idea to one for more general handling of the first element. Respectfully, Eric Jablow -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[The Java Posse] Functional programming for novices - Existence Proofs

2011-01-06 Thread Eric Raymond
Regarding the recent debate, here are two pretty good existence proofs on the suitability of functional programming for beginners: * Scheme was at the core of the introductory Computer Science curriculum for MIT and other universities which used the seminal book: http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/

[The Java Posse] Re: Javascript should replace Java in College Courses

2010-12-14 Thread Eric Jablow
hate all these books on programming that use only the REPL for all their examples. So we schould not go back to Scheme, using SICP as textbook? With Volume 4A coming out next month, we can try MMIX. It might be a bit low-level for people's tastes Eric -- You received this message because

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Java never actually was an open standard

2010-12-12 Thread Eric Newcomer
are developers. I don't have exact figures on the breakdown, but it's safe to say something like a third are Java developers. We definitely feel we can represent the developer view on the JCP and we will try to influence the JSRs with that perspective. Eric On Dec 11, 2010 7:46 PM, Ralph Goers ralph.go

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Java never actually was an open standard

2010-12-12 Thread Eric Newcomer
If you made good points and took the time to understand what others said you would be more likely to get a good response. I really hesitate to reply to your posts since you don't seem to follow the discussion very well. Eric On Dec 12, 2010 9:23 PM, Miroslav Pokorny miroslav.poko...@gmail.com

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Java never actually was an open standard

2010-12-12 Thread Eric Newcomer
For example you appear to have no idea how JCP votes are carried out, yet feel free to imply corruption. Please check your facts if you expect anyone to take you seriously. I will no doubt regret replying when I see your response. Doesn't have to be that way, but I'm afraid it is. Eric On Dec 12

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Java never actually was an open standard

2010-12-11 Thread Eric Newcomer
the other. Eric On Dec 11, 2010 12:25 AM, Miroslav Pokorny miroslav.poko...@gmail.com wrote: WHen you said Lee i wasnt sure which Lee you were talking about - I thought you were talking about Bob Lee, which did nt make sense. Some of your other comments were pointing to the wrong people so again

[The Java Posse] Re: Women Fed Up With Open Source Community Creeps

2010-12-08 Thread Eric Jablow
even now. Look at Dusa McDuff's story in The Pleasures of Counting, by T. W. Korner. Respectfully, Eric Jablow -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups The Java Posse group. To post to this group, send email to javapo...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from

[The Java Posse] Re: Excellent article about Google's response to Oracle

2010-10-18 Thread Eric Jablow
CAPITAL LETTER ETH (voiced th) U+00F0 ð LATIN SMALL LETTER ETH The 'ye ' in 'ye old shoppe' was always pronounced 'the', but it comes from the letter thorn instead: U+00DE Þ​ LATIN CAPITAL LETTER THORN (unvoiced th) U+00FE þ​ LATIN SMALL LETTER THORN Eric -- You received this message because you

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Oracle IBM deal on OpenJDK

2010-10-12 Thread Eric Newcomer
these comments about OSGi are funny because they completely reflect only one side of the debate, and characterize the OSGi camp as political when it was in fact Jigsaw that was politically motivated. Eric On Oct 12, 2010 5:10 AM, Fabrizio Giudici fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it wrote: On 10/12

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Oracle IBM deal on OpenJDK

2010-10-12 Thread Eric Newcomer
So I take it that the answer is still I don't know Hopefully the question will come up in another forum that has more background and information. Best, Eric On Oct 12, 2010 12:09 PM, Reinier Zwitserloot reini...@gmail.com wrote: Given that I explicitly said I was just channeling the main

[The Java Posse] Re: 24 hrs to get those CodeMash abstracts in

2010-10-04 Thread Eric Jablow
an agile development effort: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1wKO3rID9g Respectfully, Eric Jablow -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups The Java Posse group. To post to this group, send email to javapo...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group

[The Java Posse] Re: Martin Odersky says: Skills required

2010-09-28 Thread Eric Jablow
. Respectfully, Eric Jablow -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups The Java Posse group. To post to this group, send email to javapo...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options

[The Java Posse] Re: Farts?

2010-09-20 Thread Eric Jablow
On Sep 19, 5:25 am, Christian Catchpole christ...@catchpole.net wrote: Fart Studio Please stop. I prefer the chipmunks. Respectfully, Eric Jablow -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups The Java Posse group. To post to this group, send email to javapo

[The Java Posse] JavaOne Java Posse Show Party without a JavaOne Pass?

2010-09-09 Thread Eric Raymond
Will it be possible for people without a JavaOne pass to attend the Java Passe show and/or party? How closed off/regulated is the street and tent? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups The Java Posse group. To post to this group, send email to

[The Java Posse] Re: So Scala is too Complex?

2010-08-28 Thread Eric Jablow
On Aug 27, 9:47 pm, Josh Berry tae...@gmail.com wrote: Of course... there could be another SAM.  Acronym finder didn't verify this for me. :( A SAM is a surface to air missile, which is very nasty indeed. Respectfully, Eric Jablow -- You received this message because you are subscribed

[The Java Posse] Tempo Posse feed stuck?

2010-08-25 Thread Eric Raymond
Have not seen the last three episodes come through on the tempo posse feed. Anyone else stuck as well? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups The Java Posse group. To post to this group, send email to javapo...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this

[The Java Posse] Re: Tab / Spaces anyone?

2010-07-01 Thread Eric Jablow
On Jul 1, 10:16 am, Weiqi Gao weiqi...@gmail.com wrote: That we are having a Tabs vs. Spaces debate is a consequence of us programming with mono-spaced fonts, which is not the only way to write programs.  A peek at Knuth's books or The C++ Programming Language ought to convince you that

[The Java Posse] GTask App for Android

2010-06-10 Thread Eric Raymond
Per Dick's comment of the lack of a native app on Android for Google Tasks, I've been using gTasks for some time, and it works well. Nice UI, good offline and sync support. http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-ssi-gtasksbeta-qBii.aspx -- You received this message because you are

[The Java Posse] Cinco de Mayo

2010-05-09 Thread Eric Jablow
[I]s not Mexican Independence Day. It celebrates the Mexican victory over France in the Battle of Puebla on May 5, 1862. It isn't even celebrated throughout the entire country of Mexico. Mexican Independence Day is September 16. May 5th is only a cultural celebration. Respectfully, Eric

[The Java Posse] Re: The 'Thoroughly Modern' Development Environment From Hell

2010-04-24 Thread Eric Jablow
it of course means someone has to deal with security patches and backups. I would add TortoiseSVN to the list, as long as you stay with Windows. I'd even push it to the non-programmers. Budget memos and requirement documents need version control too. Respectfully, Eric Jablow -- You received

[The Java Posse] Is there something like Google Code or SourceForge that we can install on a corporate intranet?

2010-03-08 Thread Eric Winter
I work at a fairly large employer with a few hundred software developers. We are looking to improve our project sharing potential. One step we are doing is introducing Maven to as many developers as possible to make it easier to create, share, and use libraries. Is there something like Google

[The Java Posse] Tor's new venture

2009-12-28 Thread Eric Raymond
Been noticing Tor typing a bit more during the past few episodes? Here's why: http://tinyurl.com/ydgslde -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups The Java Posse group. To post to this group, send email to javapo...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Why is Netbeans Eclipse?

2009-12-21 Thread Eric Newcomer
roots bottom up project, but OSGi did not start out that way. That was the point. Eric On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Kfir Shay kfir.s...@gmail.com wrote: Eric, OSGi came from the embedded space, and was not born or dictated by Sun. kfir On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Eric Newcomer enewco

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Why is Netbeans Eclipse?

2009-12-21 Thread Eric Newcomer
Yes, agreed. Osgi is just kind of funny since it kind of historically straddles the two. Eric On Dec 21, 2009 11:52 AM, Casper Bang casper.b...@gmail.com wrote: In any event, my overall goal was to point out a subtle but existing fragmentation I think can be observed. I could and probably

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Why is Netbeans Eclipse?

2009-12-20 Thread Eric Newcomer
anyone even thought of Eclipse. This is just to say that OSGi is not Eclipse stuff the way RCP for example is. It's much more generic - Eclipse just happens to be the biggest name adopter of OSGi. Eric On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Casper Bang casper.b...@gmail.com wrote: I tend to think

[The Java Posse] Re: Oracle may drop sun deal?

2009-11-04 Thread Eric Newcomer
I'm more convinced by the theories that it's SAP the EU is concerned about. Eric On Nov 4, 2009 3:16 PM, Casper Bang casper.b...@gmail.com wrote: Nah, that sounds more like a conspiracy story than anything else (a lot of those going around regarding the Sun-Oracle merger). PostgreSQL

[The Java Posse] Re: NetBeans getting support for the Fan language

2009-08-13 Thread Eric
to turn them into TeX files with elegant output. Unfortunately, WEB files are ugly to write. Respectfully, Eric Jablow --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups The Java Posse group. To post to this group, send

[The Java Posse] Re: VMWare buys SpringSource - thoughts?

2009-08-10 Thread Eric Newcomer
Well at least VMware will be assured of a supplier for their Osgi based management console for Vcloud... Eric On 8/10/09, kibitzer dunl...@gmail.com wrote: Must admit, I can't see how these two companies are at all compatible. Not from a product offering or a development mindset perspective

[The Java Posse] Re: Python's respect and Rubys derision

2009-07-24 Thread Eric
On Jul 24, 1:09 am, Reinier Zwitserloot reini...@gmail.com wrote: But RoR and the ruby community deserve most of that derision. Let's cover some facts: I'm sure most women programmers feel the same way. Respectfully, Eric Jablow --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You

[The Java Posse] Re: Rethinking persistence

2009-07-23 Thread Eric Newcomer
alternative to ACID for persisting data to single resource managers. Thus the original comment that ACID is typically still used for BASE oriented systems, although not for maintaining consistency across replicas. Eric On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:53 AM, Alex Turner arm...@gmail.com wrote: http

[The Java Posse] Re: Rethinking persistence

2009-07-23 Thread Eric Newcomer
at is an alternative to 2PC for ensuring consistency of updates across replicated data sets, especially in memory. Eric On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 5:58 AM, Reinier Zwitserloot reini...@gmail.comwrote: Am I missing something? Postgresql, MS SQL Server, H2, MySQL/InnoDB, Oracle, and even CouchDB - *ALL* use MVCC

[The Java Posse] Re: Rethinking persistence

2009-07-21 Thread Eric Newcomer
put on disk safely and reliably, which is what ACID is. ACID does not refer to any database or file system type, they are just properties those things follow to ensure correct results for applications. Eric On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Peter Becker peter.becker...@gmail.comwrote: Eric

[The Java Posse] Re: Heap and Stack memory

2009-07-21 Thread Eric
I am afraid that some people have only Write-Only Memory. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Write-only_memory. Respectfully, Eric Jablow --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups The Java Posse group. To post

[The Java Posse] Re: Rethinking persistence

2009-07-20 Thread Eric Newcomer
is the ability for the application to work with data in memory without having to persisting every update immediately, thus gaining a performance advantage at the cost of the potential inconsistencies. Eric On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Peter Becker peter.becker...@gmail.comwrote: Eric Newcomer wrote

[The Java Posse] Re: Rethinking persistence

2009-07-19 Thread Eric Newcomer
it won't be long. However, as with any change as significant as the move toward BASE and eventual consistency models, it is likely to take a long time. Eric On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 6:56 PM, Peter Becker peter.becker...@gmail.comwrote: While I agree with your description of what BASE

[The Java Posse] Re: Rethinking persistence

2009-07-17 Thread Eric Newcomer
correct comparison, i.e. BASE vs 2PC. Eric On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 4:34 AM, Peter Becker peter.becker...@gmail.comwrote: Rick wrote: I think one of the reasons that relational databases are popular as compared to other solutions is that they map well to the theoretical tools

[The Java Posse] Re: Rethinking persistence

2009-07-17 Thread Eric Newcomer
, as if BASE were a potential replacement for ACID, which I don't think it is. Good marketing maybe, but not very accurate. Eric On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Peter Becker peter.becker...@gmail.comwrote: Eric Newcomer wrote: ORM to me is like one of those impossible tasks, like automatically

[The Java Posse] Re: Rethinking persistence

2009-07-16 Thread Eric Newcomer
designed around what I call mainframe style assumptions. Eric On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Martin Wildam mwil...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 Jul., 12:43, Steven Herod steven.he...@gmail.com wrote: XML would be the 'modern' equivalent. To do it in a relational database with Java would

[The Java Posse] New Book: Principles of Transaction Processing (2nd edition) by P.A. Bernstein E. Newcomer

2009-07-09 Thread Eric
it, let us know what you think. Thanks, Eric -Original Message- From: dbworld-boun...@cs.wisc.edu [mailto:dbworld-boun...@cs.wisc.edu] On Behalf Of Philip Bernstein Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 5:25 PM To: dbwo...@cs.wisc.edu Subject: [Dbworld] New Book: Principles of Transaction

[The Java Posse] Re: more jigsaw vs osgi vs javaposse

2009-07-02 Thread Eric Newcomer
is really going on with the project, and in particular how it will or will not relate to what OSGi is. Eric On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Bill Robertson billrobertso...@gmail.comwrote: Eric, I'm not trying to get on you personally about anything, however I don't recall anybody proclaiming

[The Java Posse] Re: more jigsaw vs osgi vs javaposse

2009-07-01 Thread Eric Newcomer
of life, that's all. When that happens some people are going to align themselves one way or another. That's it. Nothing negative implied. Eric On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:53 AM, Bill Robertson billrobertso...@gmail.comwrote: Eric, I don't think it is fair to call somebody who accepts the Jigsaw

[The Java Posse] Re: more jigsaw vs osgi vs javaposse

2009-06-30 Thread Eric
I took this down. Apologies for the over- reaction. Eric On Jun 26, 5:24 pm, phil.swen...@gmail.com phil.swen...@gmail.com wrote: http://modualrit.blogspot.com/2009/06/jigsaw-posse.html --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed

[The Java Posse] Re: more jigsaw vs osgi vs javaposse

2009-06-30 Thread Eric
Dick, Thanks very much for this. I'm glad to see that the discussion is continuing in a more professional tone and is focusing more on technical issues. Apologies again for my over-reaction. Eric On Jun 27, 10:22 am, Dick Wall dickw...@gmail.com wrote: A bit of damage control here

[The Java Posse] Re: more jigsaw vs osgi vs javaposse

2009-06-27 Thread Eric Newcomer
, not the podcasts. The podcasts are fine. Eric On 6/27/09, Chris Adamson invalidn...@gmail.com wrote: The OSGi zealots remind me of the SWT zealots... and are poised to do just as much damage to the Java community. -- Sent from my mobile device

[The Java Posse] Re: My notes about project Jigsaw from JavaOne

2009-06-24 Thread Eric Newcomer
question for community members who have already invested in OSGi). There is no shortcut here, unless there's no community. Eric On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:39 PM, phil swenson phil.swen...@gmail.comwrote: Of course there is a shortcut in making a standard. You make something good, and hope

[The Java Posse] Re: My notes about project Jigsaw from JavaOne

2009-06-23 Thread Eric Newcomer
Thought you guys might be interested in this: http://www.osgi.org/blog/2009/06/hi-were-osgi-we-mean-no-harm.html On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Reinier Zwitserloot reini...@gmail.comwrote: So, if I understand you correctly, Eric: 1) jigsaw's reasoning that OSGi would have been too slow

[The Java Posse] Re: My notes about project Jigsaw from JavaOne

2009-06-22 Thread Eric
on several occasions to encourage them to participate more actively but they apparently prefer to sit outside and throw stones, and somehow manage to convince others who have little or no experience with OSGi to do the same. Eric On Jun 20, 6:34 pm, Reinier Zwitserloot reini...@gmail.com wrote

[The Java Posse] Re: My notes about project Jigsaw from JavaOne

2009-06-22 Thread Eric
of something, but its adoption as a standard. Unless, of course, that's not what Jigsaw folks intend. Eric On Jun 20, 10:24 pm, Josh Suereth joshua.suer...@gmail.com wrote: Can we stop the name-calling?   On the scala list serves, I usually reserve pictures of fluffy,furry, cute and cuddly kittens to help

[The Java Posse] Re: My notes about project Jigsaw from JavaOne

2009-06-22 Thread Eric Newcomer
the time it will take for Jigsaw to be as widely adopted as OSGi would be time well spent? Eric On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Jess Holle je...@ptc.com wrote: I think one of the most compelling arguments cited was actually *not* getting necessary changes worked out through the OSGi

[The Java Posse] Re: My notes about project Jigsaw from JavaOne

2009-06-22 Thread Eric Newcomer
not. Eric On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Reinier Zwitserloot reini...@gmail.comwrote: So, 'none of the reasons cited are good reasons'. Okay. Says you. That was a big part of my rant: OSGi folk just piss all over jigsaw without -EVER- mentioning anything constructive except that tired old bitty

[The Java Posse] Re: My notes about project Jigsaw from JavaOne

2009-06-22 Thread Eric Newcomer
invite the Jigsaw folks to participate (and Sun is definitely a member of OSGi as well as the relevant expert groups), and they say they will, but then they don't, and we complain about that, is that a valid compliant or not? Eric On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Lloyd Meinholz meinh

[The Java Posse] Re: My notes about project Jigsaw from JavaOne

2009-06-22 Thread Eric Newcomer
to participate in. The Jigsaw folks can say anything they want to anyone informally - and they do say a lot of things - but there is no formal exchange of ideas and proposals. That is the point. Without that, there's no way to bring things together. Eric On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Reinier

[The Java Posse] Re: My notes about project Jigsaw from JavaOne

2009-06-22 Thread Eric Newcomer
another important point, which is that the other vendors probably have additional requirements, and will need to make some changes. Eric On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Jess Holle je...@ptc.com wrote: All of that formal involvement takes a hell of a lot of time. As I see it they only had 2

[The Java Posse] Re: Why is there no episode 255?

2009-06-09 Thread Eric Raymond
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[The Java Posse] Re: Why don't people use Java 6 in production? Maybe this is why...

2009-05-11 Thread Eric Angel
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[The Java Posse] Re: IBM in talks to buy Sun?

2009-03-18 Thread Eric Winter
Oh man I was dreading it all day and now that you opened my eyes that they WILL kill Netbeans I am actually terrified. Netbeans is SO much better than Eclipse and (ahg!) RAD that I am actually terrified. I guess it is good for IntelliJ which would become my IDE. You can argue that Netbeans is

[The Java Posse] Re: @NotOverridable == final?

2009-03-16 Thread Eric Winter
I like the @Override but it adds even more cruft when you want nice concise anonymous inner classes trying to fake closures... You would get the same problem if there was a bunch of required annotations. Perhaps another indicator that cleaner syntax for anonymous inner classes would be useful

[The Java Posse] Re: poor mans closures with Collections in Java

2009-03-16 Thread Eric Winter
I like using Google collections but I am not sure if I like the lazy evaluation approach taken. It can have some unexpected ramifications. Probably not bad just different. There are also some odd api choices such as not having a method Lists.filter(:List) meaning you have to do a lot of

[The Java Posse] Re: What would you recommend?

2009-03-01 Thread Eric Winter
Thinking in Java 4th Edition. For an assessable and thorough introduction I always recommend that. I guess people swear by the Head First book but I like something meatier. After they should read first Effective Java and then Code Complete (Maybe Clean Code is similar but I haven't read that

[The Java Posse] Re: Need JavaScript

2009-02-18 Thread Eric Angel
for the below question I want to move all emails from ms-outlook to ms-excel sheet so please help me on this. Wating reply please ASAP mail me the script to this id ganer.dee...@gmail.com Thanks Deepak 9986310811 -- Eric Angel

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