Dear Aurelia,
I was not suggesting that we copy an existing jabot. It is simply the case
that some people have expressed concern about the jabot fitting the neck size
and such. Perhaps there are adjustable tabs on the back. My thought was to buy
an inferior jabot as a starting point in the
I have been doing a little googling of Jesurum and came up with this
interesting description of his tombstone.
portraits of the dead in low or full relief, in photographs and
sometimes in mosaics like in the sepulcher of the Jesurum, decorated by lace carved
in stone, celebrating what
I apologize for messing up the previous message, what I meant to say was:
Here is a description I found of Jesurum's grave while googling him.
...portraits of the dead in low or full relief, in photographs and sometimes
in
mosaics like in the sepulcher of the Jesurum, decorated by lace carved
In addition to Ipswich, Native Americans were making lace, the Sybil Carter
lace. However, when it did not feature canoes and things, it was virtuallly
indistinguishable from Belgian Lace. We also had various lace making endeavors
such as the Italian Lace School here in New York which used
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The first thing that came to mind was stars and strips or variations of
same. Chevrons, stars. I looked and there is a Swedish pattern that has
some very acceptable eagles.a suitable shield
Nine jabots is an awful lot of jabots. Maybe we could limit the honor to
female Supreme Court Judges. This would keep it to a much more manageable number,
she said cynically. I can see it now: The International Old Lacers salutes the
Judicial System in a ribbon across the special commemorative
If you will go to the following link you will see a picture of Supreme Court
Justice Ruth Bader Ginsbug wearing a jabot. It is not a lace jabot. However,
Ginsburg may represent the thin edge of the wedge in Aurelia's plan to subvert
the US judiciary to lace purposes.
A Supreme Court portrait contained at
http://www.umich.edu/~urecord/0203/June16_03/02_portrait.shtml
shows both female justices in jabots.
Eureka! Have you worked out the design yet Aurelia?
Devon
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Sandra Day O'Connor looks as if she might just have something lacy round her
throat
Be still my beating heart!
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Judicial attire in the US is very boring possibly reflecting our
anti-aristocratical dogma and a perception that lace is soft and pretty and weak and
that
it ill-suits people who have the power and authority to sentence others to
death or a life-time in jail. However, I have noted that Judge
I am proud of any contribution that I have made in clarifying the role of the
French Bull Dog in the history of lace. Priceless moments such as the
bringing together of Sheila and John Mason, 7th generation machine lace manufacturers
from Nottingham, and Susan Lambiris, of Raleigh to discuss
I have received a question from a woman in New York regarding advice given
about framing her lace. She has a piece of lace that belonged to and may even
have been made by her grandmother. When she visited Brugge she received the
following advice.
The folks in Brugge recommended that once the
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but now having found the proof that John Bowles was not
his biological father I had to chop off the longest branch of the tree,
and now I'm looking for my Roots!
Good one, Brenda!
It is interesting to me
This is an interesting question. I am assuming that we are not talking about
machine made lace that one might like to use on clothing.
I cringe at the thought of cutting up large pieces of handmade lace which
will result in very few such lengths being available to future generations. On
the
It seems odd, but many things go into valuation including the ease with which
a dealer can store and carry the item to shows and the ease with which it can
be displayed by the buyer. You often hear that machine made lace is not
valuable because it is mass produced, but Beanie Babies are mass
Vis a vis the difficulty of distinguishing between Flemish and Italian tape
lace, Nora Andries had a very interesting comment. She said that she looks at
the stiches in the tapes and the fillings. (I am going to restate what I
remember here, but my memory is often faulty.) She looks to see if
An arachnid has been kind enough to send me some pictures of Czech lace. One
of them, does in fact have the kind of background that I was describing. It
resembles Valenciennes ground, but it is only made with two pairs, zig-zagging
back and forth and sewing in.
My corresondent says, however,
Wow! Good spotting Jeri. It is embarrassing to be directed to photos in books
I actually own, but haven't sufficiently studied!
The reference to the Queen Elizabeth portrait at Gripsholm was because an
article in a 1934 Met Bulletin said there was a portrait of Elizabeth there and
that she was
There is a beautiful border which is described as being for a wedding apron
in the museum. It is thought to be Flemish dating from the 17th century. I have
been searching for a portrait of a woman wearing a lace or lace trimmed apron
from that era. I have found several aprons on children, but
The only mention I have heard of this Masters Thesis is from the Tamara
Duvall e-mail in which she was just leaving for Prague. Perhaps when she gets back
Tamara could tell us how she obtained the Masters Thesis. Perhaps Michelle
Chase is on the list and could tell us how to obtain it.
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First, I got Michelle Chase's Master Thesis on American (as in: US)
Lacemaking; thanks, Michelle (sorry, I didn't have your e-address in my
addressbook, so couldn't send a private message). Michelle has
I think I am enough of a lace expert to say, without fear of contradiction,
that this is definitely not chutney.
Devon
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In an early period in Europe (in the case of the painting at the Met - 1720
in Milan), when printed books were expensive and rare and possibly not very
available to women, it was probably a real treat to
I visited the website of the place in Estonia that Pene directed us to. It is
a house originally belonging to the Piip family, returned to them after the
last half century of communist rule during which time it was state owned. What
an interesting story.
Pene, do you and your husband speak
Imagine my surprise when I entered the Metropolitan Museum of Art and saw a
painting of some lacemakers reproduced on a stancheon in the front hall. . To
see this promo picture, which unfortunately is only part of the painting go to
Currently there is an exciting costume exhibit at the Met in which mannequins
in 18th century attire are set up in salacious poses in the period rooms of
the Wrightsman Galleries. The emphasis is on seeing the costumes and the
furniture together. However an opera designer assisted with it and
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I think there is a whole education programme that needs to be undertaken
there by nations who tip! You pay people decent wages, you don't rely on
them begging, because that's what it is, really.
I'm not the
I would assume that people who know elaborate codes for frustrating witches
who might use egg shells to go to sea and sink ships have not wasted a lot of
their brain power learning the arcane rules regarding sanitation and microbes.
Would they be offended by having egg shells littering the
If anyone is traveling to Belgium and the Netherlands as I have just done, I
will provide the following up to date info.
The Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam is only partially open and this will be the case
for some years. There is no lace to be seen there.
In Brugge, Arendshuis which is actually the
My bulletin arrived yesterday to my great surprise because mine was about a
month late along with those of other people in New Jersey last time. Since
then, your hard-working editor Debra Jenny has had a heart-to-heart talk with
representatives at every level of the post office from the big
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It is a
country
with a tropical climate and hardly any places that are air conditioned,
so I guess it is much too warm for lacemaking!
A woman who learned to make lace in Cuba in the 1960's told me that
I don't think this is actually the answer to your question, but I have been
planning a trip to Belgium and it seems that the equivalent of our map quest is
www.mappy.com
Devon
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I called around to the thrift shops yesterday. One thrift shop proprietor
said, we used to get things like that 10 years ago, but no more. I asked my
husband whether he thought that meant people didn't keep button boxes and he said
he thought that when someone died or went into a nursing home
Does anyone keep a button box anymore?
My daughter called yesterday from college and asked me to send her my button
box. She found a button box in a thrift shop in Vermont, where the college is,
and has decided to do a project for her Mixed Media Class in which she
constructs trees made out of
Toomer's Antique Lace: Identifying Tips and Techniques is one you could
probably order from your local bookstore. It is published by Schiffer books in
Atglen, PA. They have a website you can order it from www.schifferbooks.com. Go to
My copy of Framed in Lace cost $5.99 US. It is a small paperback. How much is
Amazon asking for this little book? I am not willing to give up my copy, but
while a pleasant read, they aren't necessarily something that people want on
their bookshelves forever. Maybe some kind of trade could be
Of course, there is the large number of paintings on Lori Howe's lace fairy
site of lacemakers, some of whom are 17th century. This site is
www.lacefairy.com, click on lacemaking, go to the column on the right hand side,
down at
the bottom under graphics and right under that click on
I have added the Keil lacemaker to My Met Gallery. This is a collection of
paintings that I have set up on the Met website for the lace inclined. You go to
www.metmuseum.org. You click to enter. Click on My Met Museum. Enter the name
lace followed by the password lover. Then click on My Met
Interestingly too, there seems to be some indication that those people whose
ancestors were among the survivors in a plague hit country have less
likelihood of contracting AIDs. Or perhaps that is another Urban Legend. In any case,
I
am not putting it to the test.
Devon
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I haven't read it, but I think the novel by Jean Montupet called the
Lacemaker is one of the few to actually deal with the lives of lacemakers. However, I
believe they are French Needlelacers of the 18th century.
Since the person asked for a depiction does she mean a book or a picture?
At the
Since there has been little mail on arachne of late, perhaps bored people
would like to visit this site and enjoy the thumbnails. The e-mail is from Karen
Augusta who is a well known US lace dealer. She writes the descriptions for
the auction.
Devon
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The more I think about and read about Binche, the less I think I know what it
is. Only one thing seems to be clear: it wasn't made in Binche. Some people
seem to think it was made in Valenciennes. Bertha Van Doren (Lace Magazine)
seemed to think it was made in Antwerp. As a rule of thumb, I
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Antwerp was the
source of Pottenkant, a straight lace with long symmetrical repeats which
featured a pot of flowers as the design. Aside from the design style the
grounds of Pottenkant were much the same
There is a new quilt show that will be airing on PBS starting in June called
M'Liss's Worldof Quilts. The crew and star came to the Ratti Textile yesterday
to film it as a place of interest to quilters. Our boss asked me and Gunnel
to come in and examine some lace under the video microscope in
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He took special pains to get all this work done for us despite the fact that
he is absolutely swamped with piles of other things to attend to. We are so
lucky to have him and his expertise!
Yes, we are.
Since an earlier discussion involving the 6000 members of the Vologda Lace
Union, I have been wondering more and more about the development of lace and
especially modern lace in the Eastern Block countries. I have an exhibit catalog
La dentelle tcheque de l'Art Deco a nos jours dating from an
I was attempting to photograph some lace with my new digital camera
specifically bought for lace photography- can get within 1.3 inch. My problem was that
my shadow keeps marring the picture as I bend over the lace. How do others
deal with this?
Devon
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Dear Susan,
Vis a vis your contention that the political system had no effect on lace
development in the Eastern Block: Will you deny that capitalism killed lace? Why
then should it seem a unlikely that an atmosphere in which market forces are
rejected and rendered null and void would be the
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there is something that comes
along in terms of leadership or funding that makes it difficult or impossible
for
the public to have access to the wonders wrought by the people who came
before
us (mostly
The Cone Sisters, donors to the Baltimore Museum, are a case in point about
how people who collect and people who are museum donors impact museums. The
other lesson to be learned is that when people who distinguish themselves as art
collectors collect lace, lace gets taken seriously.
A little
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My plans are solidifying. I learned there was more interest in such a
facility coming from Arachnes overseas, than from within the U.S.
Very sad.
Devon
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I like the way the seller assumes from the presence of the coin on which the
back has been smoothed down and engraved L Battery, R.H.A. Nery, Sept. 1,
1914. Battery implies that the bobbin was given by a survivor of the battle
to his sweetheart. This is what separates the successful antique
Janet Gillies wrote a little article about this for the publication of the
New England Lace Guild, but I don't know if Janet is still a member.
Devon
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I am very interested to hear about how things are done in other countries. I
also prefer all day classes because you don't have to spend so much of the
class packing and unpacking equipment. I very much like the 24 hour classes at
the convention because when you reach the more difficult laces
I have returned to the web page of the Keystone Lace Guild (having not yet
received my bulletin) and have found a few more things that I think might be
interesting.
1. There are a lot of teachers from outside the US. Personally, I like the
convention to feature teachers you don't see all the
I have been thinking some more about this year's format of the convention
which is clearly designed to make lace instruction available to people who work
and may not want to expend an entire week of vacation on it. It is entirely
possible that this will be successful and that there might be a
Jeri wrote: A carefully-considered plan will help. How about this one?
Year one.
Target young person at convention. Laugh at her jokes. Ask about her
children. Provide advice about how to obtain lace supplies. Ask young person to write
up convention report for local newsletter. Praise her for
I am sorry that Ruth was deterred by the paper work involved in the current
convention because I would like to meet her. But now, I am even more eager to
see how this convention turns out.
As workshop chairman of a local group for many years I had ample opportunity
to observe how a gifted and
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Apparently the
IOLI Convention Committee is in an advisory capacity only,
and only if asked. I will propose a Bylaw change the next time I go to IOLI
Convention, you can be sure! We need Convention and
As a glutton for recognition, I find that little kudos such as Janice's and
Tamara's drive me on to perform even more services for the IOLI Bulletin. No
doubt such recognition is also fueling others to exert themselves to make it a
better Bulletin. However, another way the Bulletin could be
The author of this web-site made a visit to the Met last summer. I had
arranged a viewing of laces of the era for her and we also went running at top speed
through all the American oil paintings that dealt with the era while she
sketched and commented. However, if the last updated date June
Sorry. I posted a response to a message on lace-chat to lace. Actually, I
think the subject matter is legitimately lace, rather than lace-chat. So if
anyone is wondering which historical web-site I was referring to, it is:
http://www.ai.mit.edu/people/sfelshin/revwar/lace/lace.html
which a
Thank you Tamara for the insiders view of collectivization. Very interesting.
I had sort of thought that the Vologda Lace Organization was not just an
excuse to drink tea and eat cookies like some lace organizations, but was more
production oriented. I suppose unlike our organizations where the
Since many are skeptical as to the actual existence of ghosts, I had no idea
that the science of ghost behavior was so well-known. Whether a ghost would
walk through a wall or open a fire door might depend on the mood of the ghost at
the moment, mighten it? I am not sure that I feel that a
I also went to the web-site and searched lace in collections and got 69
hits. If in fact everything is on the website (not the case at the Met.) it is
not a very impressive collection. My own personal collection is better and I am
not a collector who spends that much money on it. I am not sure
I guess that an aesthetic criteria for judging machine made lace is still
emerging as well. The Battle of Britain panel is certainly the gold standard for
machine made lace. What makes it special?
I like it because I think it is very interesting visually. Along each side
are great landmarks of
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So, perhaps, the George Washington panel is something that had been
made along the same lines? Special, but curtains nevertheless?
I am not going to pretend that I understood what Mr. Mason was saying when he
When Sheila and John Mason visited the Ratti with the panel Mr. Mason
mentioned that Sheila was to appear on Flog It. Mr. Mason's family has been machine
lace manufacturers in Nottingham for about 8 generations and he has a wealth
of information which he very kindly shared with us about machine
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It would be difficult to find anyone who
would insure such an item unless solid information could be
produced regarding sales of similar items. And even if
someone could produce a receipt for the purchase
Although I have visited the lace museum on Burano, I thought I had heard that
a new lace museum had opened in Venice. A friend from the museum is going to
Venice and said she would check it out if I could give her some more details
about how to find it. Can anyone tell me more about it?
Devon
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I don't think there are any lacemakers who are
really famous.
The only lacemakers I can think of that are famous are famous for things
other than lacemaking, for instance, Catherine of Aragon or Mary,
Interestingly, we have a piece of lace in the Met's collection which is
supposedly made of human hair. It has been catalogued as something , maybe point
tresse. I have only seen the catalogue card, not the piece. It is a piece of
needlelace. I think it is entirely white, although I recall
Karen Thompson has asked me to inform arachne that the phone number to call
for the Smithsonian Lace Tour has changed. It is now: 202-633-3826.
Devon
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Since we are snowed in here, I have been amusing myself looking at the
catalogue for the upcoming Doyle auction which occurs on Dec. 10 and wondering
whether it is worth trying to go. The site is http://www.doylenewyork.com. Lot 982
is a tablecloth which is predicted to go for between $4000
I'd say the fire department in Austin, is doing very well if it can arrive at
the homes of people who use the terms rubbish and petrol within 5
minutes.
Devon
confined to her New Jersey home by the expected arrival of Pres. Bush at a
fundraiser less than a mile away.
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My cousin has come up with a cheap but I hope, desirable gift idea. I
mentioned to him at one point that I had been reading my mother's diary that she kept
in 1936 when she was in high school. It is quite a delightful account of
movies and parties attended, and teenage concerns during the 30's.
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We are encouraged, by our culture, to pat ourselves on the back for
even the tiniest achievement -- and we *do*.
We're used to being dominant (and act accordingly)
Frankly Tamara, although I
The first edition of Palliser in 1865 says that Barbara Uttman had the honor
of introducing Bobbin Lace to Germany, not that she invented it.
Devon
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I was in Bennington, VT last weekend and stopped in at the Grandma Moses
Museum. In addition to the Grandma Moses things the museum has a hodge podge of
old curiosities on the second floor. Imagine my surprise to see an entire case
full of lace related things. There was a pillow, a lacemaker's
On October 24, at 2:00 Sheila Mason, author of Nottingham Lace 1760-1950,
owner of the Cluny Lace Co. of Nottingham, and custodian of the Mason collection
of machine-made lace will be coming to the Ratti Textile Center at the
Metropolitan Museum of Art for a viewing of about 10 pieces of
After Devon reminded me that there are other ways to buy used books
than on ebay (thanks, Devon ;-) I found a copy of 'Chats on Old Lace
and Needlework' here in Canada that was only $25 US (the ebay auction
ended at $57 US!) so I bought it.
I think the ebay bidding often stops right at
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Considering that the population of Germany
is less than the U.S. and the IOLI has 1600-1700 members, that means that
the percentage of lacemakers in the population
I think the fact that the number of
As publicity chairman for the IOL convention, I was given the info that we
have, if I recall, 1628 members. Recently Gunnel Teitel turned over to me a
hoard of clippings from all over the country about lace over the last 25 years.
Many of them were reports of IOL Conventions. It was quite
Have you checked out www.Bookfinder.com? I bought my copy a little while ago,
but it has water damage, as well as other issues. As I recall I opted for the
cheapest one, and there were others at various levels of
intactness/decrepitude with an appropriate sliding price scale. If you are
Dear Angharad,
Thank you for your reply.
Out of curiosity, how was the fiber analysis conducted. Was it necessary to
destroy any part of the lace? Was it done entirely with a mircroscope? Was
there chemical analysis involved? I am fortunate to be a volunteer in the lace
collection of the
Are any of these Battle of Britain Lace panels in the US? If so, are they
accessible?
Devon
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Does anyone have an e-mail for Bill Howe so that we can discuss currency in
relation to the Battle of Britain panel book?
Devon
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I mistyped Howe for Rowe. Does anyone have an e-mail for him, or must I rely
on snail mail?
Devon
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Do any of the Belgian lacemakers have an opinion about whether the flat
needlelace with horizontal reseau that we sometimes call Point de Venise a reseau
is actually from Brussels as Santina Levey believes?
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It has been quiet. I guess everyone is moving their lace to higher ground!
Seriously, I spoke to my co-volunteer at the museum- decided not to brave it
tomorrow. She was actually moving things out of her ground level lace room
because she lives right on the ocean and they had been predicting
I recall once that I forgot my lacemaking table for a class and Maria
Provencher suggested I keep the pillow in my lap and elevate my feet on a stool,
holding the pillow in the lap. She claimed that this was the way that it was
always done in Belgium and that you could work for hours without
Perhaps our regional experts including Tamara and Betty Ann could comment on
whether the author of this piece doesn't go a little too far when he implies
that members of a red neck church wouldn't know the difference between being
raptured and being ruptured. I think this is more likely a
Of course, if one did not want to enjoy the pleasure of seeing the inquirer
stroke out at the probable price of a piece of commissioned hand made lace, one
could direct the questioner to the antique market. Lace dealers are selling
pieces of lace that took hundreds and hundreds of hours of work
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I'm more insulted by the term 'amateur lacemakers' - if they mean that I
don't get paid then that is only true if we mean in money and I don't charge
because no one could afford to pay me.
My
Many people have been complaining about the quality of the publicity that
lacemaking has received. When I was thrust into the position of publicity chair
for the convention I made a fact sheet about the convention to hand out to
reporters which contained information about the convention and the
Having had the unusual experience of being last minute Publicity Chairman for
the IOL convention, I found myself trying to explain the appeal of lacemaking
to several reporters.The reporters came with the preconceived idea that
people make lace to trim garments and because their grandmothers
Not wishing to get into the entire art/craft debate again, I can say
unequivocally that craft has a poorer connotation than art. When presenting
ourselves to the outside world in the best possible light as one does in a publicity
campaign the use of the term craft is probably best avoided.
As, I understand it, the principle behind copyright law is to encourage
creativity by ensuring that those who invest effort in a pattern or other
intellectual property may profit from it. Publishers who take the risk in publishing
the work are also deserving of the right to profit. I believe
Some years ago at a lace convention a lawyer addressed us on the subject of
copyright. It was an amusing presentation because the orientation of the talk
was the supposition that members of the audience may have designed something
that they would like to protect and how to do that. However, all
Consider the following dark scenario.
The president of Ruth Bean finds that the e-mail campaigns to republish
Channer are now coming quarterly, rather than yearly. The increasingly angry tone
of these campaigns suggests that some people who would not engage in illicit
photocopying might engage
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