Tamara wrote:
> ), and I know of at least one person who'd done "macro Honiton",
> when she was first teaching herself. Granted, I've never seen Honiton
> (regular, micro or macro) made in more than one colour but the
advanced
> people need a challenge too, no?
Take Debbie Beaver's class on "H
It may not be the mom who's the problem. I've met a lot of kids who
can't focus on anything for more than a few moments unless it beeps and
whistles and changes colors. If it doesn't have the action of a video
game they won't pay attention. It may be the mom was just bitter,
knowing the kid
From: Barbara Joyce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I do correct them, though, and let them know that (as Alice has
> alreadypointed out), it only takes patience if you don't enjoy it.
> One man yesterday was incredulous at that, and asked me flat out if I
> could say I really *enjoy* making bobbin lace.
Personally, I never had a problem with this "definition". Yes, we
normall cross/twist the threads and then put in the pin, but the result
is the threads are crossed/twisted around and about the pins. Seems to
me like a minor distinction, especially compared to calling it tatting
or claiming i
> "Proper" gimp in PG should be 6-8 times as thick as the "basic"
thread
> (I still take Ulrike Loehr-Voelcker as my "guru" on that ) -
that's
> a 3rd dimension right there, and that's without considering laces
like
> Polychrome, where even the *worker* is far thicker than the basic
> thread
I just heard about the flooding in central and southeastern Europe. I
hope no Arachneans have been hurt by it and that all loved ones are
safe.
Robin P.
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(formerly Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania)
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Symmetrical doesn't mean that every element is symmetrical in itself.
For example, humans (and all animals with backbones) are considered
bilaterally symmetrical. That means the right have is basically just
like the left half. Not that the top half and bottom half are the
same, and not that
From: Beth McCasland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I did a quick Google search on "table ribbons" and came up with
> the following:
>
> http://glockenspiellace.com/store/viewItem.asp?idProduct=253
This one mentioned placing one or more *cross* ways on a large table,
so that may be one reason for havin
Wow, Jean, it sounds like you opened quite a can of worms. It's
gratifying to hear you got such a good response, though. And good luck
seeing the rest of the collection.
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It's great, Jeannette! Looks like a passionflower, too. I gotta learn
this lace--it looks like such fun.
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From: Jeanette Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I have put a photo of
I believe Minnesota was settled by Scandinavians--Swedes? Norwegians?
There was a strong Swedish tradition of lace, both Skansk (no pins
except along the edges) and torchon-type. I don't know of any
Norwegian bobbin lace, just Hardanger (an embroidered lace). The Danes
have Tonder lace, a p
Hi, Miriam!
Nobody in the Harrisburg class used an embroidery hoop. I think that's
how they work tambour on "solid" fabric. We used a square frame to
keep the tulle straight. We even basted 3 lines down the tulle (center
and two sides) to have reference for getting it straight on the frame.
It's lovely, Andy!
Always remember: if you're consistent, then it's not an error, it's a
design variant.
Robin P.
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> Here is my second atte
I've heard of two products, Fray-check and Fray-stop, I think. I was
told that one turns brown and the other doesn't, but don't remember
which is which. I don't use either, just in case.
Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA
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Brenda wrote:
> OK, so you thread the leading end of thread into the needle. Do you
> then pull a small part of the cut piece of thread through the eye or
do
> you pull 3/4 of it through? and what about if you are going to use
the
> thread double?
>
The short end, when machine stitching, i
From: Jane Partridge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> In the manufacturing process, is the resulting product wound
> immediatelyonto the small, 100m (etc) reels we buy, or is there an
> intermediatelarge cop (after all, most thread is produced for
> garment manufacturers
> who use much larger quantities -
From: donna nutt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>I must say the responses to Dora
> Smith have truly intimidated me. I imagine this will be one of
> very few posts I'll ever make on this board because I figure I'll be
> misunderstood by someone and get deluged with critical emails and
postings.
Hi, Do
A friend of mine makes lace edgings and uses them to frame pictures.
The mat is wider than the lace, so it shows outside and inside the
edging as well as through the lace holes. It's a lovely effect.
While most of my lace is samples (I like figuring out how its done, not
having lace products)
SMP Lace in England used to carry tops like these. I don't know if
they still do. I don't have contact info for them, but someone on the
list probably does.
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> I have found
Personally, I think paint is more practical than thread or wire in a
kitchen. Grease from frying gets into the air and forms a fine layer
everywhere, and dust catches in it. Cleaning lace would be terribly
difficult. It shouldn't be too hard to paint from pictures of lace
flowers.
Another o
What a horror. My heart goes out to any and all that are affected by
this tragedy, whether you have a friend or loved one hurt or (like
Avital) have a friend or loved one at risk that you need to hear from.
Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA
(formerly Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania)
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The first glass bobbins I got were a gift (don't know who made them,
but I've seen them for sale by Holly van Sciver). I'd never have
bought them, being afraid they'd break too easily, but I wanted to use
my gift so I put them on a pillow. I now have maybe a dozen glassies.
When I packed to
> >>> Brenda Paternoster asked
>
> How are you planning to use color in Bucks point, other than for
> the gimps?
Louise Colgan teaches color in BL and for her point ground pattern we
used one color thread (YLI #100 silk) for the ground and for CTC
passives, other colors of heavier thread (Y
Ah, but Clay, you can get continental glass bobbins from Tom Clarke!
He sells at IOLI and at Ithaca, and probably at other venues
(BD)
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> mend any I broke, so I had them
I have had 3 kinds of hookies, for rayon and metallic threads, and I
think any of htem would work for wire if they had a means for anchoring
the beginning (like a hole drilled in the neck).
The first kind I tried were the ones with the C head. I think they
were from Biggins, but not sure. Per
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Is there a list of vendors who will be attending the Denver
> convention available somewhere or from someone?
There's not usually a list beforehand, but you can pretty much count on
all the biggies (***in no particular order*** The Lacemaker, Kathy
Kirchner, Lacy Susa
From: Addicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Isn't Swedish Skansk lace (?spelling) worked from a graph? I
> recall this from 20 years ago.
I've not seen it on a graph. When I took the class from Marji Suhm, we
did not use a graph. Nor are there graphs in the book by (Nordfors?
Nordhoff? something li
Hi, Ronna
The first thing to do is contact your *teachers* and ask them if you
can use the International Square bobbins. Obviously, both would prefer
you use the "proper" (that is, the official) kind for that style of
lace, but most teachers understand the financial necessity of making do
wit
However, travelers, keep in mind that not all lace suppliers can accept
credit cards. Small businesses can't afford the credit card charges,
which can be as much as 75 cents per transaction.
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>>>So I decided to go with the thread for the first few prickings in
this book - cotton perle 5. I thought I had some of this thread but
have just discovered that it is no. 8 that I have and I really cannot
visualise no.5 at all. To top it all I have mislaid Brenda's book
<<<
Perle 5
From: Brenda Paternoster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I work the turning stitch on the inside curve of 10-stick/8-stick
> as CTCTC. That changes one of the worker threads, not the pair. It
> wouldn't work for colour but then 10-stick is used for a narrow
> line/braid in a design and you probably woul
Hmmm! I know many lamps' *wiring* won't allow higher-watt bulbs, but
hadn't heard of lamp *shades* not allowing it. What a stupid thing to
do! However, what I was suggesting was the spiral fluorescent bulbs,
which are much lower wattage for the same light output, but they screw
into an ordin
One thing I've not seen mentioned yet: even *if* the light in your
class is OK (and that is a big "if"--I've experienced the full range),
the light in your room will probably be terrible. Some people
(lacemakers and embroiderers) bring one of those spiral fluorescent
bulbs with them to put in
Can't speak to Dazor, but I find Ott lights don't give me that shadow
problem. I believe it's because they use an elongated bulb, so the
light isn't coming from a pinpoint source they way it does with halogen
and incandescent bulbs. This dissipates the shadows.
Since Dazor also have a large-i
The Sulky Blendables are ordinary sewing-machine-size threads (probably
40- or 50-weight sewing cotton).
Robin P.
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(formerly Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania)
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> Edition 3 includes:
>
From: "L. E. Weiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> when working on Flanders I keep an enlarged copy of the
> pattern mounted on a think cork board so that I can use pins to
> keep track of where I am in a piece.
This is quite useful, since many of us have a cork board for pre-
pricking. However, if you d
It's a stiletto or fid, for poking holes into fabric. I have one just
like it. You can use it to create holes for eyelets, etc.
Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA
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From: Jenny Brandis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Th
What I do is put in the pin till I've got all the "legs" anchored to
the ground. Then I pull the pin and tension everyone before going on.
If I don't pin at the halfway point, it's too easy to distort the
spider and end up with legs shorter on one side than the other. Once
the legs have been
It's my understanding that copying pages for use in a class was covered
under the "fair use" clause of copyright. In other words, it would not
be a violation of copyright to use patterns from published books. Of
course, that may vary in other countries.
Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA
(
Other than that, and a twisted ankle last weekend (much
> better now, but I've decided housework is dangerous!)
Oh, yes, housework is much too dangerous for a twisted ankle! You
definitely need to rest it and make lace.I guess my virus
software has taken care of the worm problem, because I
> About ten years ago, I bought a thread gauge that was a
> transparency with various grids on it that you could lay over your
pricking to see
> what type it was, ie. 5mm diagonal, 1/8" straight, etc. Then it had
a one
> page guide of suggested thread for a particular grid such as 16/2
Swedi
My far-and-away favorite dragon pattern is from Lace Express of several
years ago (probably between '99 and '01). My stuff is all packed up
still, so I can't check. Maybe someone who has the back issues can
look it up. Back issues of Lace Express are available from their web
site, although t
If you're willing to "wrap" them (put them into a bag, or an envelope)
before assigning them to bags, then it's the luck of the draw. There
are always malcontents, no matter what you do, and often what I think
is ugly, someone else thinks is lovely. Then we can trade--I've done
it with banque
Another point to consider: I don't think cling wrapping is available
in all airports. So you might be able to use it coming, but that
doesn't mean you'll be able to get it on the return trip.
Robin P.
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(formerly Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania)
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Most of us travel with fabric suitcases, so a determined thief merely
has to take a knife to it. The purpose of a lock, on a suitcase or a
car, is merely to convince the thief to try an easier target. If the
thief wants your luggage (car, house, bicycle, whatever), he'll take it
no matter wha
There's another problem with putting lots of books or magazines
together in a suitcase--they may fail X-ray inspection. The clay
coating of glossy paper is X-ray opaque and a stack of them looks the
same as a big, metal box.
I had that problem at Heathrow, years before 9-11. I'd bought a bunc
From: Barbara Joyce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Regarding securing suitcases when flying, it is not possible to do
> that in the US. After 9/11, our security procedures have become quite
> rigid and severe. The Transportation Security Administration (TSA)
has the
> right to open and search any/every
From: Barb ETx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Until my attention was called to it, yesterday I did not know
> that Snowgoose has a "One and only,"..and very reasonable. I am
> considering
> ordering one.
Awhile ago, we were talking about modifying a one-and-only so it could be
folded up and pack
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have had phone calls asking me about
> laminating so perhaps you can all have a go now.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> This makes absolute sense but just one questions - how easydo you
> find pricking through the laminate plastic? I was taught to rub the
> bees wax
VBG!
My first mental image was of the Denver convention, when we have the regional
meetings--the Union region will meeting over here, the Confederacy region over
there
My next mental image was of Jimmy Hoffa being elected our next president. [For
the non-US arachneans, Hoffa was a controv
Association of Lace Makers, Inc. (ALMI)? Ends the quibble over whether it's
diverse enough to merit "international" in its name. And stays away from the
question of whether Canadians mind being called "American" when that term has
often been appropriated for their domineering neighbor down sou
From: "H. Muth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> suggestion for a name if anyone wants it. "Lacemakers and Collectors
> Inc." "LACI." I thought it was appropriate.
Could cause confusion with the store/museum/publisher (Lacis) in Berkeley.
They're very well known, among all sorts of fiber enthusiasts.
From: Leonard Bazar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
You did mention she can't
> see the point of keeping the threads the same length.
> A tidy desk may be the symptom of an empty mind, but a
> neat lace pillow is a pleasure to work on as well as
> to see!
As one who doesn't keep *anything* else tidy, I can
Wow! That's certainly an invention and a half! Congratulations on getting it
done. It's lovely.
Robin P.
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(formerly Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania)
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> I was working on a wire interpreta
I *always* use the head groove on Midlands bobbins. In fact, the lack of a
groove is a major reason I dislike most Continentals (I use Swiss because they
have a grooved head). When I hitch on the neck, sooner or later the hitch gets
bogged down in among the wound threads and I get a terrible s
Sounds to me like she hasn't got her bobbins properly trained! You've got to
teach them who's boss, just like horses and computers. One bobbin like that is
a renegade, but a whole pillow full is poor training.
Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA
(formerly Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania)
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From: Brenda Paternoster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Only other suggestion is that her Richard Ives
> bobbins are *very* smooth and thus allow the hitch to slip.
I've gotten rather fussy about the bobbins I buy. Some may be gorgeous, but
don't have a good enough head for me (if I remember correctly, Ri
From: Carol Adkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
One of my class has the
> most awful trouble with threads unwinding, and nothing any of us
> can suggest makes any difference.
>
Well, several people have talked about the direction of the hitch. Another
thing is how you pull on the bobbin, especially to
As a former museum employee, I want to add--don't tell this to the guards
around the exhibit. Ask to see the director, to tell him/her how much you
enjoyed the exhibit. At "my" museum, the director's office was right up front
and any visitors could walk in and express their feelings. And he d
>>>From: The Browns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Home recorded dvds whether audio or video are not
stable and may only last some 5+ years.<<<
With CDs (and presumably DVDs), you get what you pay for. Cheap disks develop
pinprick holes in the reflective backing (not the recorded side that
everybody's so
At the Harrisburg convention, I took glass bead-making on Weds. That was
enough time to learn it and come away with a new hobby. I also took Casalguidi
(Italian stumpwork) on Sat, again only 6 hours. Weds could be a day for
non-lace or peripheral topics. Making a bobbin roll, or painting bob
I've never tried Mechlin, but Skansk is another lace with pins only at the
edges. What I did through the ground was work to an edge and use that pin to
maintain the worker's position while carefully tensioning each ground stitch
along its path. Even in Bucks, they traditionally didn't put supp
From: Tamara P Duvall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Holly Van Sciver, in NY
> http://www.vansciverbobbinlace.com/index.html
> Susan Wenzel, in VA
> http://www.lacysusan.com/
> Can't remember where or who owns it, but Snowgoose is popular
> http://www.snowgoose.cc/
> there's also The Lacemaker, in Ohio (don
The way I was attracted was by seeing a demonstration. I was in college at the
time, and watched a woman throwing those bobbins about. I was amazed and awed.
While it was several years before I had a chance to learn, the bug had bitten.
I make an effort to be among those volunteering whenever
The business meeting could be moved to mid-week to make it easier for part-week
attendees to come. I do agree about not being able to shop on a non-class day,
as there's so little time to shop on class days.
However, I personally was thrilled at being able to take a single class all day
and a
The way I end bookmarks: I do patterns that come to a central point at the
bottom, leaving pairs out along the two slanted edges. I take the outermost
pair from one edge and CTC through all the other pairs on that side. Place a
support pin just below the point of the lace, unwind enough of th
> I am beginning to think maybe we need a convention within a
> convention, sort
> of a lace boot camp for people who want to live cheaply and work
> intensively
> at the convention to bring in the younger people.
I think that's what the Harrisburg group was trying to do, but they met with
Some universities have stopped renting to conventions and some never did.
However, there are still many that have a reduced enrollment during summer and
use conventions to make the summer school more cost-effective. I've been to
many scientific meetings at universities, as recently as 2003 (di
The mid-week free day is also the best day to shop. The sales room is closed
during classes and all official convention events, so it's pretty hard to
seriously look at threads or books in the brief bits before class, during
lunch, etc. Wednesday is the day to leisurely browse.
It's also a da
This points up someone's suggestion that convention committees
look into holding their convention at universities. Dormitory
rooms are usually a lot cheaper than hotel rooms; they often have
an optional, inexpensive meal plan; and there's lots of lecture
halls and smaller classrooms for the wo
Oh, those are lovely, Jean! Normally I don't get excited about pastels, and
didn't expect it to work so well on something as gaudy as a hummingbird, but
it's beautiful. Of course, I like the darker one too!
You should be very proud of yourself for those!
Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, US
Two sides of a square makes a nice V for a neckline, or a pseudo-neckline, on a
T-shirt. Assuming the square was big enough, of course!
Robin P.
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(formerly Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania)
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I've used polyester without difficulty. It's a bit stiffer than cotton, so can
jump the hitch if the bobbins are too light, but it's nowhere near like
metallics in that respect. I've also used Nymo beading thread, which is, I
think, nylon. No trouble at all.
In the short run, polyester is mo
I just checked the web and Thumbelina still carries Danish flower thread. This
is a store in Solvang, California, originally settled by Danes and a tourist
spot. The URL is
http://www.thumbelina.com/index.html
Note that the Danish Handcraft Guild (real) Danish flower thread has a
different n
I disagree with Tamara (not a rare thing, despite being good friends) on this.
I didn't get a pricker till I'd been making lace for a few years. I used a
large-headed pin, such as a corsage pin. Or I just used the pattern without
pre-pricking.
However, I admit a good, comfortable pricker m
> > Is there a do not buy list?
> Yes, most of the packaged kits for beginners.
I'd like to clarify this. A number of lace suppliers put together nice
beginner's kits. However, some general craft or needlework stores/dealers
carry the horror kit I described in my longer post. A kit from a lac
Welcome, Jenny! I do hope you have as much fun with bobbin lace as I did when
I started.
> Should I get a round, roller or travel cushion?
This, and most of the other tools, depends in part on personal preference. I
expect you'll get lots of different answers. Personally, I do not recommend
Tahnks, Janette, for letting us know. And big congratulations to Noelene, Liz,
and Jenny!
Robin P.
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(formerly Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania)
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From: janette humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Noelene has a 1st place and Champion f
I agree with Clay about flat pillows and Continentals. In fact, I used only
Midlands till I got a block pillow. I had so much trouble picking up the
skinny shanks on the table-flat surface that I started getting Swiss bobbins.
Anything with a bulbous bottom and a narrow waist is a whole lot e
The different bobbins come from both different traditions and from different
problems to be solved. If your bobbins are "bouncing around", it sounds like
you're using fairly heavy thread and the bobbins aren't heavy enough to control
it. I suggest you save the Swiss bobbins for when you try fi
I used some Gloriana when learning Chrysanthemum lace from Cathy Belleville.
It came out a lot softer than her work (linen), but had enough body to tack
onto a blouse. I mixed a turquoise-and-blue variegated with some solid-color
silks in the same range. The result is lovely, if I do say so m
Liz, that's a beautiful piece! You're so talented. Obviously, the John Bull
trophy was well-earned. Thanks for letting us see it. And I hope to see it in
person (always so much better than a photo) next summer.
Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA
(formerly Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania)
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Some people use hairspray. It's certainly NOT archival, so it depends on your
goal for the flower. If it's to enjoy now and for a few years, you can use
something like hairspray, but if you want it to be appreciated for decades,
don't.
One advantage of hairspray over liquid starch is that it
Boy, Patty, you're quite the masochist! Not only in wire, which can be so
dreadfully unruly, but with beads, too?
It's beautiful!
Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA
(formerly Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania)
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All I can say is I've had great fares from Travelocity. I've compared them to
Expedia, Orbitz, USAir, and my AAA agent, and gotten comparable deals most of
the time. Sometimes one of the others found a better fare, sometimes
Travelocity did, evening out overall. I go first to Travelocity, for
Wow! I get uncomfortable with 5 pairs hanging down to get tangled and
confused. I can't imagine trying to work with that many pairs of bobbins on an
upright pillow! What a spectacularly beautiful piece! Thanks for showing us,
Carolina.
Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA
(formerly Pittsb
When Vera Cockuyt taught overlapping and sewing, there didn't seem to be all
that much to learn. You overlap a full repeat so the threads are going exactly
the same in both layers. Then take very thin (that is, much thinner than the
lace threads) thread in a needle and find a place where you c
A friend's class got moved to the barn one year. Complete with mice in the
straw. One woman had a severe straw allergy and some of the others were
frightened off by the mice, which decreased the class size considerably. And
that's without commenting on the lighting, the lack of heat, and the
Most likely it's "crochet cotton", which most often comes in size 10, 30, and
40. Things like Cebelia, also (I believe) Opera, and some of the Turkish
cotton threads should work.
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This sounds like "Armenian" lace, a knotted needlelace. The stitch is similar
to the buttonhole stitch used in needlelace but has an extra twist in it to
knot each stitch in place. It's done all through the eastern Mediterranean
region. And yes, it's the stitch used in bebilla (oya).
Robin P
I use a bolster-like pillow for needlelace, with a dowel under the "active"
area. When I took a class at Ithaca, the teacher (sorry, can't remember her
name even though she was a great teacher) showed us that method and folding the
work over your finger. I was uncomfortable with the over-the-f
A lot of this advice will depend on the airport as well as the airline and the
country. Just because your "home" airport allows you to bring your pillow to
the plane doesn't mean the airport at the other end will. Even in these
post-9/11 days, the strictness of security varies considerably amo
Kathy Kirchner sells a less-expensive (at least for US lacemakers) alternative
to the "Christina". She has an "everything" pillow with a padded circular
collar. The inside area comes with: a flat pillow, flush with the collar, to
use as a large cookie; a sloping but flat-surfaced pillow, to u
Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA
(formerly Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania)
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From: Alice Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, January 17, 2005 4:17 pm
Subject: [lace] guild newsletter - revisited
> Recently, we had a discussion about putting newsle
Personally, I'd rather see us Yanks accepting your way. It makes more sense to
me to have either small-to-large (day/month/year) or large-to-small
(year/month/day) units instead of having the smallest unit in the middle.
Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA
(formerly Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania)
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> This is why I do not consider teaching bobbin lace to the young to
> be the most efficacious way of promoting modern lace. Their role is to
> wear it and look great. If they were working away in silent loneliness for
> the
> hours it takes to produce
Oh, I don't know
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