Re: [lace] Mathematical textiles

2006-12-30 Thread Brenda Paternoster
They are fascinating aren't they. The problem with trying to make BL structure like these is getting a shaped pricking - you'd need to make a crochet version first and use that for the pricking! The only piece of truly shaped BL (as opposed to flat lace that has been distorted) that I've

Re: [lace] Scanning

2007-01-06 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hi Tamara I use RBrowser which is a free download http://www.rbrowser.com/download.html Currently I'm using version3 (RBrowser Lite) but having just gone into their website I see that has been succeeded by version 4. Because it's all working just fine I'm loath to upgrade - on the if it

Re: [lace] Patterns' sending -- help?

2007-01-08 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Tamara I have Appleworks 6. If I 'Save As' in Appleworks the default option is the Appleworks format something.cwk. However, if I choose Text from the file format list it will just come out as something which should open Word on a Windows machine, but that Windows PC is less likely to

Re: [lace] Patterns' sending -- help?

2007-01-08 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Further to that - if you select WindowsWord format that too defaults the file name to just something. If you change it to something.doc it becomes a Word file that should open on any windows PC. Brenda On 8 Jan 2007, at 14:08, Brenda Paternoster wrote: Tamara I have Appleworks 6. If I

Re: [lace] Rauma lace corners

2007-01-12 Thread Brenda Paternoster
It's not so much the pattern that affects how a corner will lie, it's the stitch combinations used to work up the patter that matters. To prove this try working a torchon sample, with a 90 degree corner. Work it once with the standard CTpCT ground and again with CTCTpCTCT. Allow both

Re: [lace] OK, I'm confused...

2007-01-12 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hi Sue It's a combination of (Alice's) study and (Betty Ann's) experience. From my experience the best ID books are those by Pat Earnshaw: 'Bobbin and Needle Laces, Identification and Care' 'The Identification of Lace' and for machine lace 'Lace Machines and Machine Lace' 'How to Recognise

Re: [lace] pictures of putting fabric in lace

2007-01-14 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Thanks Alice for the link. They all show fabric being cut to match the size of the lace, attached and trimmed/hemmed afterwards. No messing around trying to make the lace fit a ready hemmed middle; one of my pet hates! Brenda The page with Jeri's collar had a link at the bottom that led

Re: [lace] Thanks

2007-01-16 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hi Bev It wasn't me - I've been reading this thread with interest but haven't had any input to it. I think it was Sue Fink's idea (?) to use styrofoam with magic threads, which sounds like a great idea, will have to try it next time - and promise only to stick the pins in the foam or the

Re: [lace] Brok 36

2007-01-30 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Thickness wise Brok 36/2 compares to Bouc 80 and Brok 36/3 to Bouc 90 Brenda On 30 Jan 2007, at 13:36, Tania Gruning wrote: I am preparing my pillow for the torchon fan pattern from Geraldine Stotts book, unfortunately I have no access right now for brok cotton. I do however have 5 different

Re: [lace] Le Pompe patterns, shorter

2007-01-30 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Ellen On 30 Jan 2007, at 05:06, Ellen Winnie wrote: Most modern metallic threads just don't work. Most modern metallic threads have no metal in them, and are too fine in diameter. Most modern metallic threads are made from polyester coated aluminium foil. Aluminium *IS* metal. I do

[lace] Brok 36 - Oops got it wrong!

2007-01-30 Thread Brenda Paternoster
I wrote: Thickness wise Brok 36/2 compares to Bouc 80 and Brok 36/3 to Bouc 90 Sorry, I looked up Bouc linen, not Bockens! As Beth says Brok 36/3 is the same thickness as Bockens 100/2, Brok 36/2 is between Bockens 100/2 and 120/2. Brenda Brenda in Allhallows, Kent

Re: [lace] Re: Horizontal bars in Le Pompe

2007-02-01 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Tamara I'd call that a lock stitch, not a false plait. Just another lacemaking technique that has more than one name. Brenda On 1 Feb 2007, at 02:38, Tamara P Duvall wrote: It's something she calls a false plait, though it's not the same kind of false plait that I know from laces with

Re: [lace] Bedfordshire lace term

2007-02-05 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Diana Some of the plaited straw work is delicate enough to be called lace anyway. On a couple of occasions Lace Guild Conventions have included straw plaiting displays and IIRC as a taster workshop also. But you are right, straw plaiting (mostly for hats) went alongside BL in

Re: [lace] Lace Buttons

2007-02-08 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Hendrika Now the button collector , who mentioned that she is familiar with crochet buttons ,and myself are rather curious if there are, or if anyone has ever heard of, Lace buttons ? Dorset buttons, as used on the traditional smocks worn by agricultural workers, are a form of

Re: [lace] blog

2007-02-22 Thread Brenda Paternoster
This is a website with lots of lace information including lace ID pics, lace stamps and lace postcards, BUT at the very bottom of the very long page there are three English bone bobbins - they are MINE! The pictures have been taken from my website without my having been asked for permission

Re: [lace] blog

2007-02-22 Thread Brenda Paternoster
. And I seriously doubt that the person who put that blog together had permission from Clapton to use his work - especially without attribution. Their logic is obvious, however - only steal from the best!! Clay -- Original message -- From: Brenda Paternoster [EMAIL

Re: [lace] distributors of Liana threads

2007-02-23 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Linda This is a thread that I haven't actually seen myself, so can only make educated guesses. http://www.sewandso.co.uk/ran1026-0.html has a description of the thread, describing it as 'ticket size 10' This looks like 3ply thread with one of the plies being methlon (glitter)

Re: [lace] spangles for embroidery or lace

2007-02-23 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Beth Spangles in that context were small metallic discs incorporated into embroideries - the modern name is sequin, though nowadays they are made of metalised polyester. Try http://www.ccartwright.com/ or google for sequins. For the reproduction renaissance lace I'm doing (have to

Re: [lace] distributors of Liana threads

2007-02-24 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Coats, Anchor and Mez are all part of the same company - not sure who owns whom - but the different brands often appear side by side, with Mez being marketed more in continental Europe, Anchor in USA Japan and Coats in Britain, so it could well be just a different branding of the same

Re: [lace] Novelty colors

2007-02-24 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Susan Some of the threads listed might be a bit fine for tatting and knitting, but have a look at http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/lace/threadsize/colourthreads.html Brenda On 24 Feb 2007, at 22:15, Susan Reishus wrote: What is a good source of finer knitting and tatting threads

[lace] The blog

2007-02-24 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Having read through all your replies I've decided that it's probably not worth the effort of writing , in English or any other language, to the blogger as it probably wouldn't have any outcome other than maybe generating a bit more spam. As I said at the start of this thread, I consider that

Re: [lace] quiet list, and silk thread

2007-03-04 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Sue Guetermann 100/3 measures 27 w/cm so ideally, for torchon, needs 4.5 mm between footedge pins. 2 mm graph gives 4 mm and 1/10 graph gives 5 mm, so either could be used. See: http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/lace/threadsize/threadsize.html Brenda I haven't yet used silk but

Re: [lace] silk thread, and measuring in reverse

2007-03-05 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Alice No I haven't tried working out the thread size from a finished item! Cloth stitch should have 4 threads between pinholes measured vertically but only 2 threads between them if measured horizontally. Look at any thread diagram to confirm this. In torchon it means that in cloth

Re: [lace] silk thread, and measuring in reverse

2007-03-05 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Jo Do you know if Martina measured by wrapping and then converting to dD or did she use a micrometer? If she did that would explain the differences. Brenda In tight curves it might happen that the worker kind of goes through a tunnel. then your assumption might be true. Otherwise you

Re: [lace] silk thread, and measuring in reverse

2007-03-05 Thread Brenda Paternoster
lots of techniques taken from other laces as well. That's true of all modern forms of lace too. Brenda Karen in Malta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brenda Paternoster Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 11:30 AM To: Alice Howell Cc: lace

Re: [lace] Fw: we are the manufacturer and exporter of the sewing thread

2007-03-06 Thread Brenda Paternoster
I got that spam, but I get quite a few textiles related spams anyway, and treated it just the same as I treat financial or viagra spams - hit the junk-mail key. That way anything else from that sender automatically goes into the junk-trash which self deletes every time I switch the computer

Re: [lace] silk thread, and measuring in reverse

2007-03-06 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Karen That surprises me - I've only ever seen one pattern (modern torchon) with a working angle as steep as that, and it was an experimental design as part of a City Guilds exam course. Also maybe some of the very distorted computer generated patterns might have small areas like that

[lace] Lace Guild Convention

2007-03-09 Thread Brenda Paternoster
I've received my info pack from the Lace Guild and I'm really pleased with the workshops I've got places on, none involve lugging pillows around and three good tutors. Fri pm: Beaded tassels with Sue Dane Sat am: Child's play - pattern design with Jane Atkinson Sun am: Looking at lace with

Re: [lace] Pony Bead Bobbins

2007-03-26 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Patty That's the most useful bit of ASCII art I've seen in ages! Describes the bobbins much better than words can Brenda Pony Beads are relatively large beads with large holes, usually plastic. Glued onto a bamboo skewer from your friendly local supermarket (cut to the right bobbin

Re: [lace] thread help please

2007-03-30 Thread Brenda Paternoster
No, I haven't seen that thread (yet!) The way I make a wrapping is to draw the parallel lines exactly 1 cm apart, using the computer, and print out onto paper. Then take a strip of the paper and fold it around a small piece of card so that it's stiff enough to handle and the lines are

[lace] Slip threads

2007-03-31 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Dear Spiders I have recently acquired some old slip threads - thank you Lynne - and my quandry is whether or not I should break the packaging in order to measure the threads. Slip thread, is gassed cotton in skeins as traditionally used by lacemakers in England. According to Thomas Wright,

Re: [lace] Large bobbins?

2007-04-01 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Tamara There's an article about big bobbins on Jane Atkinson's website http://www.lace.nildram.co.uk/html/articles.htm I have about 100-120 (never really counted them) of the 'Large Continentals' imported by Tim Parker. 2nd left in the pic on Jane's website. If I need still more then

Re: [lace] Re: Large bobbins?

2007-04-02 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Tamara I measured it as 40 wraps/cm An 80/1 will measure by wrapping slightly thicker than 160/2 in the same thread - because the plying firms the thread up a bit so that it doesn't flatten and spread as much. A 240/3 would measure slightly finer still even though it has the same

Re: [lace] Lace Moire lamp

2007-04-03 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Julie It's brilliant! How on earth did you find the patience to make so much roseground, and all exactly the same version at that! Brenda I have finally got around to putting up photos and a description of a project I completed a few years ago to explore moiré patterns in lace. If

Re: [lace] Lace - Tonder/Bucks

2007-04-03 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hi Sue The OIDFA Point Ground Study Group produced a book in 2001 detailing all the technical differences between the various Point Ground laces. http://www.oidfa.com/index%20en.htm Brenda On 3 Apr 2007, at 12:06, Sue wrote: Good morning spiders, As a very keen Bucks Point lace maker I was

Re: [lace] Horror kit re-born?

2007-04-05 Thread Brenda Paternoster
I've always said that the horror kits' best quality is that they make people want to join a class because they can't manage on their own! BTW, that's the US horror kit on Amazon - the English version doesn't even have a foam board, it has a very lightweight polystyrene cylinder which you are

Re: [lace] Re: Large bobbins?

2007-04-05 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Yes, I agree The wraps/cm is a good guide, but all the other variables - fibre type, harvest quality, dying/bleaching, individual tensioning etc etc all have a part to play in the finished lace. Brenda An 80/1 will measure by wrapping slightly thicker than 160/2 in the same thread -

Re: [lace] Lace Moire lamp

2007-04-05 Thread Brenda Paternoster
However, the whole idea of Moire lace is Fantastic. Who knows - I might try a Tiny bit one day - just for fun I wonder if other grounds would work as well! - Needlelace might be easier!!! I wouldn't have thought so! The size and shape of NL meshes is down to personal skills with the

[lace] Polyester thread - was [lace-chat] Sewing Thread: was Sewing with Martha

2007-04-09 Thread Brenda Paternoster
I'm moving this to Lace because it's relevant to lacemaking (the quality of cotton thread may vary, but polyester is polyester . . . . NAY! Some polyester is chopped up to suit cotton-spinning machines, and is very fuzzy and weak. In addition to having a short staple, cheap poly threads

[lace] Reading Convention

2007-04-15 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Just home from Reading - for me it was one of the shorter journeys home from a Lace Guild Convention. Met up with lots of old and new friends including a former student who moved from Kent to Wiltshire about 20 years ago, the first time I've met her since. I've just uploaded a couple of pics

[lace] Pannomia Lace - was Reading Convention

2007-04-16 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Robin That pannomia lace is neat. When you say crocheted braids, do you mean the lines around each area, like Romanian point lace? That's very interesting that it's found in Hungary, also. No - the crochet bit is the braids that form the container holding the flowers and the curly

Re: [lace] A Most Unusual Spangle

2007-04-17 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello David You should get the bobbin inscribed with YOUR name, and perhaps the date the teeth were extracted. Hope your mouth is feeling better now Brenda Fortunately my Dentist hails from the UK and knows about Lace bobbins etc. He had no qualms at all about drilling a hole through each

[lace] More copyright questions

2007-04-17 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Vivien wrote: Hi, we are one of the biggest designers of Torchon lace patterns. They are, in English law, copy right. You may not copy at all without our permission. We tell our customer we don't mind them copying the bought copy for their own use. It is illegal to copy and give away

[lace] Ultra fine silk thread

2007-04-17 Thread Brenda Paternoster
I've just been Googling and found a possible source of ultrafine silk thread - filaments of silk sold for opthalmic and micro surgery sutures, the finest being 0.02 mm diameter. The finest thread in the Wolter-Kampmann book is 6dD which I think means 0.06 mm diameter (15 band/15 slip Egyptian

[lace] Re: [lace-chat] Copyright questions

2007-04-17 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Moving this to lace because it's lace related. Further to any remarks I may have made about copyright on a painting I'm now pretty sure I was wrong in my first posting to lace-chat about this and that the right to copy remains with the artist, unless the contract of sale specifically includes

Re: [lace] Re: Copyright, and lace patterns

2007-04-20 Thread Brenda Paternoster
You are allowed to copy a percentage (10% I think) of a library book for your own personal use/study. That would surely cover you if you borrow a lace book and make one, maybe two, patterns from it. If it's an instruction book and you intend to work through all the instructions from cover

Re: [lace] Re: pineapple lace on ebay

2007-05-06 Thread Brenda Paternoster
It's now described as bobbinet lace - which it isn't either! Brenda On 6 May 2007, at 05:11, Tamara P Duvall wrote: On May 5, 2007, at 23:33, bevw wrote: The description has been revised - it's a rather nice lace actually. Item: Antique Vintage Unusual Ivory Pineapple Bobbin Lace

Re: [lace] Re: pineapple lace on ebay

2007-05-06 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Barbara Bobbinet lace was an early form of machine lace - made on Pusher Machines which were the forerunners to Leavers machines. The designs are based on BL lace with point ground net. Brenda On 6 May 2007, at 19:53, Barbara Joyce wrote: Brenda, I've never heard the term bobbinet

[lace] More on that Ebay seller

2007-05-06 Thread Brenda Paternoster
He's offering some Antique almost new tatting - and it is tatting! - but if it's antique it's not almost new and if it's almost new then it's not antique. Item no 330016070534 Does USA have anything like our Trade Descriptions Act. If he were in UK it cold be referred to trading Standards.

Re: [lace] eBay yet again!!

2007-05-07 Thread Brenda Paternoster
The bobbin in the centre of the picture was made by Archibald Abbot - I have a couple the same, bottom of his range, identified by Christine Springett. Mine don't have the green seed beads added though! Brenda On 7 May 2007, at 22:29, Diana Smith wrote: I really don't know what to think of

Re: [lace] What is it? object not for tatting

2007-05-14 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Terry walked past as I was puzzling over it and he said - it's a plannishing hammer, minus the handle. Bakalite would be too brittle for banging anything hard, but as it's very small it could just be intended for tapping something gently ??? Brenda On 14 May 2007, at 20:53, [EMAIL

Re: [lace] PVA

2007-05-15 Thread Brenda Paternoster
I'm not sure that Copydex is PVA - none of the other PVA glues smell, as Jean says Copydex smells awful. There are lots of brands on the market - some intended for children's use, some for woodwork (Evo-Stick is a well known brand), some for general craft use. I have a bottle of Anita's

Re: [lace] thread question

2007-05-20 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Judith In the book Modern Lace, the author calls for Translucent Lurex thread. Can anyone tell me where in the US this can be obtained or what the equivalent would be? Thanks. Who's the author of this book? What sort of lace is it? Lurex is a brand name, and registered trade name, of

Re: [lace] dutch girl or boy in lace

2007-05-25 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Maybe Dora the Knotter can help. I have a pattern sheet purchased 15 or 20 years ago from a Lace day (Possibly Gravesend when she was the speaker). It's a Dutch girl wearing cap, apron and clogs and holding a tulip. She's 24cm (9.5) tall but could be reduced on a photocopier Marked D.N.

[lace] New 20 pound note and pinmaking

2007-05-29 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Has anyone else looked at the back of the new UK 20 pound notes? There's a portrait of Adam Smith 1723-1790 and the words The division of labour in pin manufacturing: (and the great increase in quantity of work that results) plus a drawing of the various stages of pin manufacture in the 18th

Re: [lace] 16e eeuw

2007-05-31 Thread Brenda Paternoster
1st century = 1-100 2nd century = 101-200 . . 16th century = 1501-1600 17th century = 1601-1700 18th century = 1701-1800 19th century = 1801-1900 20th century = 1901-2000 21st century = 2001-2100 Many people celebrated the start of the 20th century a year too early! Going further back in time;

Re: [lace] Re: Tear drop pattern - revised

2007-05-31 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Mark I couldn't get in to the link you gave, but poked around a bit and discovered that it's actually http://www.tat-man.net/bobbinlace/BLteardrop.html though I could download the .pdf file from the .html page Brenda On 30 May 2007, at 17:24, Tatman wrote: As suggested to me by Bev,

Re: [lace] Shantung Lace?

2007-06-12 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Never heard of shantung lace, but Shantung is wild silk, also a region/province in eastern China, so it's either silk lace or lace made in that area. Or both! Do you have a photo of the lace/ Brenda On 12 Jun 2007, at 18:50, Shirlee Hill wrote: Has anyone heard of Shantung Lace? If so,

Re: [lace] Lurex Thread

2007-06-13 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Bart Francis have a lot of unusual threads, but nothing they call Lurex - which is a Trade name registered to The Lurex Company Ltd. Brenda On 12 Jun 2007, at 23:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just returned from Tonder where I saw the work of the said lady and spoke to her re. the

Re: [lace] crochet lace?

2007-06-13 Thread Brenda Paternoster
It's Barmen machine lace. Very typical of this type of lace which is made on a circular machine ising coarse cotton thread. http://barmenlace.com/ Click on the Union flag and then video to see the machine in action Brenda On 13 Jun 2007, at 14:15, Joanne Callow wrote: Hello everyone, This

[lace] Re: [lace-chat] ISBN book help

2007-06-18 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Jacqui Have you asked Rosemary Green (Lace Guild Librarian) where the Guild's copy came from? Brenda Does anyone know if there is a way to search for a book worldwide using just its ISBN number? The reason why I'm asking is that I have just borrowed a book from the Lace Guild

Re: [lace] Two Questions ...

2007-06-20 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Helen 1) Has anyone made the lace heart in Bridget Cook's Weddings, Christenings Anniversaries in Lace book? I am interested to know what size thread would be a good choice if making the heart using the working diagram (i.e. the bigger diagram) instead of the actual pricking. I

Re: [lace] Re: resizing a pricking

2007-06-22 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hi Tamara I think you've explained it better than I did - so long as it's a linear enlargement and not an area one. Brenda On 21 Jun 2007, at 19:11, Tamara P Duvall wrote: On Jun 21, 2007, at 13:25, Beth Stoll wrote: the pricking is sized for 140/2 egyptian cotton. I would prefer to use

Re: [lace] resizing a pricking

2007-06-22 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Beth I've measured 140/2 as 62 wraps/cm and 70/2 as 46 wraps/cm So the formula is multiply by 62/46 (= approx 1.35) That's the formula for a photocopier which enlarges both the length and the width. Many scanners/computer software enlarge by the total area. If that's the case then you

Re: [lace] Re: resizing a pricking

2007-06-23 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hi Jacqui Sorry, I don't know an answer to your question, but I think that linear enlargement/reduction is more usual nowadays, though I do remember having it the other way around in the past 'Linear' enlargement/reduction on a photocopier seems to be pretty standard. 141% enlargement is

Re: [lace] Re: resizing a pricking

2007-06-23 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Carol I remember, from years ago, a photocopy machine engineer telling us that the internal settings of the machine were such that a narrow margin was allowed for - in case the original wasn't *exactly* in the right position, and that caused the copy to be not quite true, ie a square

Re: [lace] Re: resizing a pricking

2007-06-24 Thread Brenda Paternoster
If the 'original' is already a copy (you wouldn't want to prick through the pages of a book) made with a copier which distorts slightly then any further copies, no matter how accurate they may be, will remain distorted. Especially relevant for BL patterns which are L shaped for a corner. One

Re: [lace] German lace site

2007-06-30 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Jean It's working for me; I've tried it with Safari, Firefox and Internet Explorer (all Mac versions) The links are not actually on the words, but on the little pictures above the words - the ones that become coloured when the curser is rolled over them (and the arrow turns into a hand)

Re: [lace] German lace site 2

2007-06-30 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Jean The links are not actually on the words, but on the little pictures above the words - the ones that become coloured when the curser is rolled over them (and the arrow turns into a hand) To which my reply is What little pictures? The arrow stays an arrow except on the five blocked

Re: [lace] German lace site

2007-06-30 Thread Brenda Paternoster
The background image is big (for a web page, 352Kb) but the other images are small, around 20Kb. More likely to be your browser taking time to display because of all the validation errors. Brenda I wonder if it is simply taking a long time to load. I have fairly fast broadband provider, but

Re: [lace] knit lace

2007-07-08 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Lindy I think that No 8 beads would mean size 8 seed beads. See the Pandorian catalogue: http://www.pandorion.co.uk/Catalogue.html (no connection) I've put a scan of a few of their size 8 seed beads with a ruler on http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/seedbeads.jpg Brenda On 8 Jul

Re: [lace] washing thread

2007-07-08 Thread Brenda Paternoster
It sounds as though they are using rather inferior thread if it has so much dressing in that it needs washing before being used! If shrinkage is an issue why not make a sample, measure it carefully, wash the sample and re-measure. Even so, BL made from pre-washed thread will still contract

Re: [lace] Find a thread/yarn

2007-07-17 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Jane Patty has already suggested Aurora silks. Their Nm 20/2 Fine 2 ply tussah silk is 12 wraps/c; similar thickness to cotton Perle 5. Is that what you are looking for? or do you want a very fine thread? I know of two very fine reeled silks which are 2/20 (2x20 denier I think) Au

Re: [lace] flooding in England,

2007-07-24 Thread Brenda Paternoster
I'm in the north of Kent - just across the River Thames from Essex, and we've not had abnormally high levels of rainfall. Yes it's been very wet, but nothing really unusual. Because last year was so dry the ground is still able to soak up water. Terry is still walking the dogs across the

[lace] Threads for Lace Edition 4

2007-07-24 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Dear Lacemakers I'm pleased to tell you all that Edition 4 is almost ready for printing. I've been speaking with the printer today; the price hasn't increased hugely despite an extra 200 threads and subject to no unforseen mishaps it should be ready in about 3 weeks time. Just one more

Re: [lace] More about modern

2007-07-28 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Aurelia I love Jane Atkinson. When I came upon her Pattern Design twenty years ago, I nearly died of joy. I haven't seen any of her later work, though. Where is it to be seen? You'll find the answer at http://www.lace.nildram.co.uk/index.htm Brenda in Allhallows, Kent

[lace] Ells and other old measurement

2007-07-29 Thread Brenda Paternoster
According to How heavy, How Much and How long by Colin R Chapman a lot of old measurements were based parts of the (male!) human body. A foot is 12 inches or 16 digits. A digit is the width of a man's middle finger at the base of the nail and an inch the width of his thumb at the base of the

Re: [lace] Ells and other old measurement

2007-07-30 Thread Brenda Paternoster
I too was taught to wind bobbins by the arm length of thread. Brenda On 29 Jul 2007, at 22:41, Sue wrote: This line reminds me of my first lovely lace tutor who now sadly suffers with Alzheimer's she used to say wind on three armfuls of thread onto the bobbins and would pull off three arm

Re: [lace] RE:measurements

2007-07-30 Thread Brenda Paternoster
With my arm stretched back nose to fingertip is a yard - a metre is fingertip to opposite shoulder. Brenda On 30 Jul 2007, at 17:32, Helen Bell wrote: I too learnt (more by copying) to measure/estimate a yard from nose to fingertip from Mum. That's kind of hard to do when your not fully

Re: [lace] Hanging bobbins

2007-08-01 Thread Brenda Paternoster
It's well out of the traditional lace making area so I doubt there was ever a bobbin to commemorate William Fairall who hanged at Tyburn in 1749, but if ever anyone comes across one PLEASE let me know! Brenda With all this talk about hanging bobbins, has anyone ever come across one for

Re: [lace] Hanging bobbins

2007-08-02 Thread Brenda Paternoster
- Original Message - From: Brenda Paternoster [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Lace lace@arachne.com Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Hanging bobbins It's well out of the traditional lace making area so I doubt there was ever a bobbin to commemorate

[lace] Paypal

2007-08-07 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Dear lacemakers I hope you think that this is relevant to lacemaking. I have been asked a number of times if I will accept PayPal, and as Threads Edition 4 is with the printer now it might be the right time to start accepting PayPal, BUT it is very expensive, which is why I've not taken it

Re: [lace] thread alternatives question

2007-08-10 Thread Brenda Paternoster
On 10 Aug 2007, at 13:42, Sylvie Nguyen wrote: It would be greatly appreciated if I could be given suggestions for thread equivalents (hopefully available in the USA) for the following: Schappeseide Nel 50/3 Schappe silk - ie spun silk. NeL means English Linen number so similar thickness to

[lace] PayPal - Decision

2007-08-11 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Thank you to everyone who replied, both on-list and privately to my request for opinions about accepting PayPal. Your views are quite mixed, some are all in favour whilst others wouldn't touch it with a bargepole! Personally I don't feel comfortable about PayPal and have decided not to

Re: [lace] Jane Atkinsons travel report via her website

2007-08-11 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hi Jenny There's no picture of finished lace so you can't be sure what's intended, but my guess is that the upright Xs are in place of where I would use a diagonal square to indicate a rose ground/cane ground filling. Brenda Does anyone know what stitch is used in the patterns that look

Re: [lace] PayPal - Decision/GBP cheque

2007-08-12 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Ann-Marie My advice is to order from a UK trader who takes plastic: SMP, Roseground, Larkholm Lace or Biggins/Presencia. It would be stupid to get a UK publication from USA, that would mean it crossing the Atlantic ocean twice instead of just one trip across the North Sea. On 12 Aug

[lace] Translations - was ornament help

2007-08-13 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Clay So the bottom line was that even for Germans, the descriptions in books which are written in German do not necessarily make a lot of sense! It would seem that people in Germany, who learn to make lace, learn it first from a live person who teaches them the vocabulary, and from

Re: [lace] Re: Planning Finished Lace Presentations in Advance

2007-08-26 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Tamara Was it Craft Creations? I think you mean double fold to make three sections. http://craftcreations.co.uk/pages/products/category.mhtml? category=38SSN_ID=a2eeca624ddb4d278a2a9f68331e040a Brenda On 27 Aug 2007, at 00:31, Tamara P Duvall wrote: Speaking of which... Can someone,

Re: [lace] Lace knitting help

2007-08-29 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hi Jacquie Google 'Knitting Estonia' and you get lots of interesting sites including: http://www.einst.ee/publications/crafts_and_arts/socks.html which answers your question about Estonian 'fair isle' http://www.knittingbeyondthehebrides.org/lace/estonian.html

[lace] Edition 4 at last, and a Raffle

2007-09-04 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Dear Spiders I was told that the printing of Edition 4 would take ten working days from when I accepted the proofs - which I did on 6th August. I collected the books this afternoon! Maybe printers only work three days a week. Anyway, I've got them now. Too late for today's post, but

Re: [lace] Lace Buddy map

2007-09-13 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Sue I had problems getting my dot in the right place too. It couldn't find the village name (Allhallows) and when I tried Rochester it put the dot on the centre of Rochester, about 12 miles away, but then I tried using the postcode and now it's spot-on! Go back in and edit your

Re: [lace] Lace Buddy map

2007-09-13 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Just to add to that - to get a UK postcode into it you have to click on the USA tab first!! Brenda On 13 Sep 2007, at 18:24, Brenda Paternoster wrote: I had problems getting my dot in the right place too. It couldn't find the village name (Allhallows) and when I tried Rochester it put

Re: [lace] Buddy map

2007-09-13 Thread Brenda Paternoster
The list and map which I got just said United Kingdom, without distinguishing between England, Scotland, Wales and NI. Brenda On 13 Sep 2007, at 18:22, Jean Nathan wrote: One thing wrong with the map, the United Kingdom is just shown as England. England is part of the United Kingdom (of

Re: [lace] Buddymap

2007-09-15 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Japan is the default setting for 'World'. To get a city/town or a zip code/postcode in you have to click the USA tab regardless of country! I too have just tried to edit - from the postcode to the village name and got the error message and shutdown. I think that maybe there are too many of

[lace] Raffle Winners

2007-09-15 Thread Brenda Paternoster
My granddaughter Leah stayed over last night, and just before we took her home she did the honours and drew four names from the hat - we used a sun hat which hasn't had much use this summer! The lucky names are: Beth Stoll in USA Janette Humphrey in Australia Judy Tucker (Australia) Sue Fink

Re: [lace] lacemakers map

2007-09-16 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Avital If you have the USA tab selected instead of the world tab you should be able to do it. I have tried editing my profile to Jerusalem and it worked, I've changed it back again. Even if you can't get Maale in, at least Jerusalem would be in the right general area. Brenda On

Re: [lace] Knitting terms.

2007-09-17 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Ewa Wrap Stitch isn't a standard knitting term (as far as I know). It sounds as though it's a special technique used for a particular pattern which should be described in the list of stitches/techniques used for that pattern. I'll guess that it means to wrap the yarn around the

Re: [lace] Beginner's questions about Bucks point lace

2007-09-17 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Achim pattern no. 30 (Helen, the straight variant without corners) from Stott, G.: A Visual Introduction To Bucks Point Lace - probably some of you have a copy of that book. - How many twists should be between headside passive pairs and the gimp surrounding a motif? I do two twists to

Re: [lace] technical list question

2007-09-23 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Kate Your message to Arachne came through fine, but at the end of it there is [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of rtCurve.gif] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of s.gif] That means that there were two

Re: [lace] Beautiful vintage table doilie in needle lace

2007-10-02 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Alessandra I agree with the others that your doily is very nice, but probably not vintage. There is a page on my website showing detail of a modern Chinese needlelace mat of mine which had some damage near the edge so I carefully unpicked it to prove that it's handmade. Although the

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