You missed your big chance to write to those of us who keep on going and
tell us to shut up. If there's more people talking than people saying
shut up, the conversation continues. Simple Math.
JL
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Art
Hi Bob,
There are various ways of organising paper associated with your genealogy.
I file by Type of document so have File ID's like Birth 014 (for
Birth Certificates or birth index data I have in hard copy) ; Family
067(for Family Group Sheets and Family sketched family trees);
Shipping 11
From: Janis Gilmore
1. 1860 U.S. census, Dickson County, Tennessee, population schedule,
Middle Division, Danielsville (post office), p. 42 (penned top right),
dwelling 290, family 290, R. Walker household; digital image,
_Ancestry.com_
(http://www.ancestry.com : accessed 27 Aug 2007);
I have a problem when I try to import one of my Legacy files in to another
one of my Legacy files and I get an error message 3022.
I have spent over 1 1/2 hours trying to work out what to do from the support
lists and can not work out what to do and how to do it.
Before you all jump on me; yes I
Sorry if wordwrap screws up the lines of my examples. Maybe I should
have added a space before and after the underscores like this.
Source List Entry:
Iowa. Marion County. __ 1850 U.S. census, __ population schedule. __
Digital images. __ Ancestry.com.[in italics] __
http://www.ancestry.com :
Jenny M Benson wrote:
But how the elements line up in reports has nothing to do with what we
enter, it has only to do how with how the programmers have arranged the
output for the various boxes we fill in.
Jenny,
I understand when you say that the programmers can arrange the boxes
we fill
Kevin,
Your email illustrates very precisely exactly why I do not, and will not, be
using the Mill's suggestions.
What she states is her opinion, admittedly with a large following, but it is
not a standard. As someone educated into the sciences I am well aware of the
criteria that is
Jan,
To be clear, I have no disagreement with Cathy's point about about not keeping
the back-up in the same folder as the .fdb data files. As it happens I do, but
in a different drive to C in which I only have programs. Perhaps more
importantly, I have three reasonably uptodate copies
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Randy,
Firstly, my apologies to others on the list but I have no other way of doing
this.
I have tried to reply to your email but it bounced, perhaps you could contact
me again from a different address.
Ron Ferguson
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JLB wrote
I think in the case of a letter as you mention, if that was a Master
Source I would quote the entire thing in Master Source Text, then I
would take a relevant part of it for the Source Detail Text.
You are, of course, free to do whatever you choose, but I think it worth
mentioning
Elizabeth,
I laughed out loud at your comment on the snooty genealogist of the future.
I too like to make my work as accurate as possible, and to cite my sources
so that someone else will be able to duplicate my work, but I don't care to
make it so complicated that people's eyes will glaze
Thanks for your reply Mary.
I tried check n repair on the first file and could not get anywhere as I get
the Error message 3022.
I have been back to the Home page - On-line trouble shooting - Solutions by
error number - 3022 and did a new download but the problem still exists.
Now what should I
Valerie
Have you made sure both files are good? Run Check'n'Repair twice on
each file, then try again.
Also, try the the import in the reverse direction. Of course, backup,
backup, backup :-)
There is a step-by-step guide to Error 3022 - click the Legacy
Home Tab, then select On-Line
Valerie Garton wrote
I have a problem when I try to import one of my Legacy files in to
another one of my Legacy files and I get an error message 3022.
I have spent over 1 1/2 hours trying to work out what to do from the
support lists and can not work out what to do and how to do it.
Have
This seems like an excellent way to have all show up. Two quick questions:
1. Is it a big deal that the date accessed doesn't show up?
2. In the Source List Name field isn't 1860 census. U.S. enough?
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 12:35 AM, Janis Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
That's a deceptively
1860 US Census would seem a reasonable Master source. If you are using this
county a lot, it might be worth adding this to the master. The Ancestry bit
is not even a primary source and is unlikely to exist in 50 years in the
same format. The rest is source detail which applies to that specific
Personally, I would like to see both a date stamp to each new source
added and a user stamp. That would help me when I come back to a family
and reevaluate information. Multiple people in my household are working
on the same database, so knowing who added information would be
helpful. I find
I have had another go and boy was there a mess about genders which I could
not change so I had to delete them all and re-enter. I hope the problem is
now solved.
Thanks again for your support.
Regards from Valerie in sunny Sydney.
Researching: BEDDY, CULLODEN, DYAS and ROWAN in Belfast, Dublin,
The accessed date can be important only because the website that you
viewed can change. In the case of a digital image, perhaps it has been
removed from the website since you accessed it. Or in the case of a
database, perhaps it has been updated or annotated or stripped of
annotations - the
I should clarify for anyone following this thread, that I believe your
reference (see below) to my citation being convoluted was referring to the
steps that I have to use with Legacy software to create it, not the citation
itself.
Hovering in the background of this sourcing discussion is the
John and Randolph,
But the purpose of a citation is to clearly state what your source was. If
your source for the digital image was Ancestry.com, then your source should
state that. If you didnt look at the original microfilm publication at
NARA, your source shouldnt imply that you did.
There
Today's Legacy News article is entitled Legacy Tip: Working with
Obituaries.
It can be read:
1) Via the Legacy News section of the Legacy Home tab inside Legacy.
2) Via your RSS feed software.
3) Directly at
http://legacynews.typepad.com/legacy_news/2008/04/legacy-tip-work.html.
When I attach a PDF to a source, I have to put it in as a sound or video
file, and show all All files, but after I do that and get the document
attached, when I click on it, it will open Adobe Reader and I can read the
entire document with just vertical scrolling -- which is one of the
Ok, enough of sources. But while I slog my way through cleaning up all those
poorly imported sources, particularly my huge census project, I have seen
where I have some census holes. Lots of them, as a matter of fact. I might
have located the 1900, 1920 and 1930 census for a family, but not the
That was very interesting. Since an obituary is a source and not an event, I
had never thought of adding it to the individual events. I'm beginning to
think of other items that might be useful there also. . .
Mary Beth Figgins
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Janis Gilmore wrote:
The “accessed” date can be important only because the website that you
viewed can change.
In the interest of precision, dating your access of the database can
help a future researcher to understand that what you saw may not be
what he/she is looking at.
I've got to
Janis,
This can only be a suggestion to you as I did not check word for word your
preferred format for census sources. You may have aready looked at at the
Sample file found it unacceptable, but your preferred format looked very
similar to Geoff's Master Source for census.
Geoff listed his
Sorry, the second part of my answer won't work as obviously you won't
find people born before 1790 AND died after 1930, but it does work one
census year at a time.
JL
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JLB wrote:
Search individuals born
Elizabeth,
For a 1910 census, assuming that you have a Census Event with the Name=Census
and the Date=1910 then using SearchFindDetailed Search and in the first row
select, Individual, Event Name Equal To Census then AND, and in the second row:
Indivual, Event Date Equal To 1910 will give you
From: Janis Gilmore
I do agree with Elizabeth that a more streamlined form for sourcing is
appropriate in many situations. I disagree, however, that those who have
chosen to conform to what has become the de facto standard (Mills) are
snooty. Most are just working hard toward publishing in one
Why?
GPB
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Bob,
There's actually a tool called The Wayback Machine that will display the
content of websites as of a certain date. See our Legacy News article about
it at
http://legacynews.typepad.com/legacy_news/2006/08/locating_lost_w.html.
While this won't work for databases, it will work for the static
Elizabeth,
My last paragraph was probably not clear uneough. You need an untagged
individual who was born before 1910 but died after 1910 (or living).
Ron Ferguson
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I think part of the problem could be solved if there was a hand-tool to
drag the image around on the Legacy viewing screen rather than the
horizontal and vertical scrolls that tend to be more tedious than necessary.
JL
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
Our family has tracked down and tested the DNA of at least one male descendant
from each of the seven sons of our earliest known ancestor on the family
surname. All of the DNA results match. I am not sure where the 20% error came
from but it certainly does not apply to the research we have
Ron and Cathy,
Thank you again for your help. I have now moved my zip folder to the Legacy
data folder. Now when I exit and I want to back up, I get the the Save in:
to read Data, and the big box now has a picture of a zipped file and it has
Stitz family.zip in the big box. I think this is
For some reason my response to Elizabeth did not come through the list
so I'll try again. And hopefully, with better articulation.
Highlight the 1900 census. Then click Show List. Then tag that list.
Then do a search for untagged on that tag number and tag that list with
a different tag
I cannot agree with this - but I can agree to disagree. :-)
Janis
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Thank you for choosing Legacy,
Kris,
The short answers are no and don't know but unlikely. I don't really
understand why you can't read them easily though. I use jpgs for census records
and with the Zoom I can read them fine.
Ron Ferguson
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Geoff Rasmussen wrote:
Bob,
There's actually a tool called The Wayback Machine that will display the
content of websites as of a certain date. See our Legacy News article about
it at
http://legacynews.typepad.com/legacy_news/2006/08/locating_lost_w.html.
While this won't work for databases, it
The method I use for filing and referencing my Source material is
probably unique to me and because I am a lumper (few Master Sources,
many Source Details) each Source documents is referenced in Source
Detail File ID. No problems there.
For some of my Sources I have an electronic file as
It works, I just added my Cemetery and Census Facts/Events and it works
great. I can add Obits after I start shifting them over to the Facts/Events
area. I have a little mess to clean up I have some in Notes, Burial Notes
and in Master Sources.
This is a great visual check on what you have for a
Elizabeth,
I've been thinking about this. It'd work if you named the censuses like:
1910 census, 1900 census, etc.
Thanks,
Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
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Gary Brown wrote:
Why?
GPB
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Valerie, I do hope the problem is solved!
By mess about genders do you mean, a husband entered as female, and
his wife as male?
This is easily fixed. While in Family View, click Edit, then Swap
Husband and Wife.
--
Mary Young
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You could put in a request or you could use the File ID box for
something shorter like numbers instead of phrases.
JL
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html
Jenny M Benson wrote:
The method I use for filing and referencing my Source material is
Ron,
I think you know this, but there is probably someone who does not - Legacy
gets new users every day...
Without seeing the specific images in question, there's no way to easily
determine why one person says jpegs aren't readable and another person
finds them very usable.
The quality (and
Elizabeth,
I wasn't at all offended by the remark, and took it in the friendly and
somewhat humorous tone in which I thought you intended it. (And, gee, I wish
I were one of the ones that could be called that! Unfortunately, I'm still
on the steep side of the hill).
As to the length of
Brian,
I can (almost) agree with you about census citations. They are so widely
available, and pretty much anyone who has done even minimal research is
aware that they can check another copy of the same census elsewhere.
However, census is not all we have to cite.
For instance, if you find a
No, I didn't and it's all been fixed now.
JL
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
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Gene Young wrote:
Gary Brown wrote:
Why?
GPB
He posted to a closed subject after being advised that doing so would
result in being unsubscribed.
Legacy
As one who has typed more than my share of Masters' theses and graduate
papers, I would like to point out that a lot of Elizabeth Mills'
citations come straight out of instructions for scholarly papers --
e.g., the MLA style sheet. It is good stuff, but I am not sure it needs
to be adhered to
I think it would work just fine for those events/facts for which you'll have
only one entry. However, Geoff's descendant listing for obituaries is not a
workable approach for the census because only the first census entry comes
up no matter how many columns you allocate on the descendant view.
You realize he may not have received your closed subject notice
(very welcome, BTW) until after he had posted? I, for example, did
not see YOUR notice until AFTER I had seen his last post. I saw him
before I saw you. I would bet the same thing happened to him. Out
of sequence delivery
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