Re: Unable to logon to Linux under VM

2009-06-25 Thread Vincent Getgood
-Snip- Reboot the z/VM guest. You should get a menu. At that point enter: #cp vi vmsg 0 init=3D/bin/bash -Snip- I don't get a menu, just the logon prompt. Still, I'll try it. Vince Getgood -- For LINUX-390 s

Re: Unable to logon to Linux under VM

2009-06-24 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 6/24/2009 at 7:54 AM, Vincent Getgood wrote: -snip- > I can't logon to disable the firewall, so I think I'm stuck. > > I tried re-booting the lpar from the linux CD to re-install linux, but > am now getting stuck on entering the MAC address during network setup. Reboot the z/VM guest.

Re: Unable to logon to Linux under VM

2009-06-24 Thread Adam Thornton
On Jun 24, 2009, at 9:35 AM, Mauro Souza wrote: Adam, In this case he needs to log via ssh to fix a configuration issue preventing him from logging from console... Whoops. I missed that. Hmmm. Maybe the SuSE installation left VNC open? I doubt it, but you could run nmap against it from an

Re: Unable to logon to Linux under VM

2009-06-24 Thread Mauro Souza
Adam, In this case he needs to log via ssh to fix a configuration issue preventing him from logging from console... Mauro http://mauro.limeiratem.com - registered Linux User: 294521 Scripture is both history, and a love letter from God. On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Adam Thornton wrote: >

Re: Unable to logon to Linux under VM

2009-06-24 Thread Adam Thornton
On Jun 24, 2009, at 6:54 AM, Vincent Getgood wrote: Hi all It looks like I have a firewall problem on the linux guest. I've checked with my N/W team, who tell me the SSH port is open on all firewalls between me and the mainframe. However, when I try to SSH in, I see the following messages on

Re: Unable to logon to Linux under VM

2009-06-24 Thread Mauro Souza
If you have another running linux on your VM, you can do this: shutdown the LOCKED linux log in the RUNNING linux, and execute this: #CP LINK LOCKED 100 1100 MW This will link disk 100 of LOCKED as 1100 on RUNNING In the shell, run chccwdev -e 1100 mkdir /tmp/locked mount /dev/dasdx /tmp/locked

Re: Unable to logon to Linux under VM

2009-06-24 Thread Vincent Getgood
Hi all It looks like I have a firewall problem on the linux guest. I've checked with my N/W team, who tell me the SSH port is open on all firewalls between me and the mainframe. However, when I try to SSH in, I see the following messages on the VM guest console: - sfw2-inext-drop-deflt in et

Re: Unable to logon to Linux under VM

2009-06-24 Thread Damian Gallagher
That's interesting. I'll take a look into this. Damian -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu]on Behalf Of Calvin Fisher Sent: 23 June 2009 16:37 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Unable to logon to Linux under VM I ran into this sa

Re: Unable to logon to Linux under VM

2009-06-24 Thread Agblad Tore
n-gb/ From: Linux on 390 Port [linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Vincent Getgood [vincent.getg...@xchanging.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 09:05 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Unable to logon to Linux under VM Great, Thanks for this. As I'm quite new to

Re: Unable to logon to Linux under VM

2009-06-24 Thread Vincent Getgood
Great, Thanks for this. As I'm quite new to all this, how, exactly, do I log on via SSH? I am using a PC running Windows to connect to the z via 3270 at the moment. I do have PuTTY installed, but when I try to connect to the Linux Guests IP address, I get a network timeout. Vince Getg

Re: Unable to logon to Linux under VM

2009-06-23 Thread Tom Duerbusch
You have Oracle running. Look in the recent archives for "Module is unknown when signing on". Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting >>> Vincent Getgood 6/23/2009 9:03 AM >>> Hi all, I'm having problems logging on to my SLES 10 system. I originally had this system running as a LPAR some months a

Re: Unable to logon to Linux under VM

2009-06-23 Thread Calvin Fisher
I ran into this same problem when trying to logon to the VM console. There is an error in the Oracle install doc. Last week after my change I was unable to logon the server on the console directly. I found that in February I was asked to make this change Add the following line to the /etc/pam.d/l

Re: Unable to logon to Linux under VM

2009-06-23 Thread Mauro Souza
Looks like someone changed /etc/security/limits.conf or pam configuration... This happens when following Oracle's documentation on Oracle 10g install for s390x. To solve this, you have to connect by ssh and get rid of the failing module (/var/log/messages can tell you what to remove). Mauro http:/

Re: Unable to logon to Linux under VM

2009-06-23 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Vincent Getgood wrote: > Module is unknown > Then get thrown back to the logon prompt. Smells like one of the pam modules may not be there. Did you maybe have a security person / tool enforce some of his popular settings in the pam configuration files? -Rob ---

Unable to logon to Linux under VM

2009-06-23 Thread Vincent Getgood
Hi all, I'm having problems logging on to my SLES 10 system. I originally had this system running as a LPAR some months ago, before installing VM. I have now defined a VM Guest (LINUX00), attached the DASD I had for the LPAR to the guest, and successfully IPL'd SLES 10. On the Linux guest

Re: Problem shutting down Linux under VM

2007-03-09 Thread Bruce Hayden
If you are unable to put on the VM APAR, there is a way to work around it in Linux. See my old post at http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvtype?LINUX-VM.58652 On 3/8/07, LJ Mace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The server gets the kill signal and stops but never reboots . thanks Mace -- Bruce Hayden I

Re: Problem shutting down Linux under VM

2007-03-09 Thread Christian Borntraeger
On Friday 09 March 2007 12:42, LJ Mace wrote: > cp query > z/VM Version 5 Release 1.0, service level 0501 > (64-bit) > linux > Linux l2dld01 2.6.5-7.283-s390 #1 SMP Wed Nov 29 > 16:55:53 UTC 2006 s390 s390 s390 GNU/Linux Hello Mace, your Linux looks quite recent, but your z/VM service level is qu

Re: Problem shutting down Linux under VM

2007-03-09 Thread LJ Mace
cp query z/VM Version 5 Release 1.0, service level 0501 (64-bit) linux Linux l2dld01 2.6.5-7.283-s390 #1 SMP Wed Nov 29 16:55:53 UTC 2006 s390 s390 s390 GNU/Linux Mace --- Christian Borntraeger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 09 March 2007 02:38, LJ Mace wrote: > > The server gets the kill

Re: Problem shutting down Linux under VM

2007-03-09 Thread Christian Borntraeger
On Friday 09 March 2007 02:38, LJ Mace wrote: > The server gets the kill signal and stops but never > reboots . which kernel and which VM are you running? in Linux: uname -a in VM: #query cplevel -- IBM Deutschland Entwicklung GmbH Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Johann Weihen Geschäftsfüh

Re: Problem shutting down Linux under VM

2007-03-08 Thread Vic Cross
On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 17:38 -0800, LJ Mace wrote: > The server gets the kill signal and stops but never > reboots . I see this issue in the following circumstances: * z/VM up to (including) 5.1 * 64-bit Linux (SLES 9 in my case) * more than one virtual CPU "shutdown -r" finishes, a CP message a

Re: Problem shutting down Linux under VM

2007-03-08 Thread LJ Mace
The server gets the kill signal and stops but never reboots . thanks Mace --- Christian Borntraeger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 08 March 2007 20:52, LJ Mace wrote: > > Thank you for the info. The presentation doesn't > fit > > I'm missing the first and last few letters/words > on > >

Re: Problem shutting down Linux under VM

2007-03-08 Thread Christian Borntraeger
On Thursday 08 March 2007 20:52, LJ Mace wrote: > Thank you for the info. The presentation doesn't fit > I'm missing the first and last few letters/words on > every page,but I digress. > I added the 2 parms and now the -h option works great > the problem I still have is with the -r option. Is > the

Re: Problem shutting down Linux under VM

2007-03-08 Thread Rich Smrcina
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Re: Problem shutting down Linux under VM

2007-03-08 Thread LJ Mace
Mar 2007 > (#2007-56) > > > 03/05/2007 12:03 > AM > > > Please respond to > Linux on 390 Port > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > IST.EDU> > > > > > >

Problem shutting down Linux under VM

2007-03-07 Thread Susan Zimmerman
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Re: Problem shutting down Linux under VM

2007-03-05 Thread Christian Borntraeger
On Monday 05 March 2007 20:07, LJ Mace wrote: > Here is th eline now: >parameters = "root=/dev/dasda1 selinux=0 TERM=dumb > elevator=cfq > vmhalt=LOGOFF > vmpoff=LOGOFF" > > What am I missing?? all on one line. Then run zipl. Then reboot. -- IBM Deutschland Entwicklung GmbH Vorsitzender des

Re: Problem shutting down Linux under VM

2007-03-05 Thread Mark Post
>>> On Mon, Mar 5, 2007 at 2:07 PM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, LJ Mace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here is th eline now: >parameters = "root=/dev/dasda1 selinux=0 TERM=dumb > elevator=cfq > vmhalt=LOGOFF > vmpoff=LOGOFF" It should all be on one line. Mark Post ---

Re: Problem shutting down Linux under VM

2007-03-05 Thread LJ Mace
Here is th eline now: parameters = "root=/dev/dasda1 selinux=0 TERM=dumb elevator=cfq vmhalt=LOGOFF vmpoff=LOGOFF" What am I missing?? TIA Mace --- Christian Borntraeger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 05 March 2007 17:36, LJ Mace wrote: > > I added the 2 lines you gave me into the ser

Re: Problem shutting down Linux under VM

2007-03-05 Thread Roach, Dennis
Behalf Of Christian Borntraeger Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 11:56 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject:Re: Problem shutting down Linux under VM On Monday 05 March 2007 17:36, LJ Mace wrote: > I added the 2 lines you gave me into the server. I ermm? It was one line and it sho

Re: Problem shutting down Linux under VM

2007-03-05 Thread Christian Borntraeger
On Monday 05 March 2007 17:36, LJ Mace wrote: > I added the 2 lines you gave me into the server. I ermm? It was one line and it should replace the existing one. -- IBM Deutschland Entwicklung GmbH Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Johann Weihen Geschäftsführung: Herbert Kircher Sitz der Gesells

Re: Problem shutting down Linux under VM

2007-03-05 Thread LJ Mace
I added the 2 lines you gave me into the server. I then tried to shut it down but it would go down. Remember I have 2 cpus assigned(even though we have only 1 cpu) Here is what I get: 00: HCPGSP2629I The virtual machine is placed in CP mode due to a SIGP stop from CPU 01.

Re: Problem shutting down Linux under VM

2007-03-05 Thread Christian Borntraeger
On Monday 05 March 2007 16:55, Bernard Wu wrote: > But what happens if one wants to recycle linux with the "REBOOT" command > from Linux ? Reboot should not trigger the vmhalt or vmpoff command. -- IBM Deutschland Entwicklung GmbH Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Johann Weihen Geschäftsführung

Re: Problem shutting down Linux under VM

2007-03-05 Thread Bernard Wu
But what happens if one wants to recycle linux with the "REBOOT" command from Linux ? The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. This message may be an attorney-client communication and/or work product

Re: Problem shutting down Linux under VM

2007-03-05 Thread Christian Borntraeger
On Monday 05 March 2007 14:05, LJ Mace wrote: > OK I'm a little(some will disagree and say alot) dense > but I don't see the kernel line. Here is my > zipl.conf: [...] > parameters = "root=/dev/dasda1 selinux=0 TERM=dumb [...] > --- Christian Borntraeger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > > - l

Re: Problem shutting down Linux under VM

2007-03-05 Thread LJ Mace
OK I'm a little(some will disagree and say alot) dense but I don't see the kernel line. Here is my zipl.conf: [defaultboot] default = ipl [ipl] target = /boot/zipl image = /boot/image ramdisk = /boot/initrd parameters = "root=/dev/dasda1 selinux=0 TERM=dumb elevator=cfq" [dumpdasd]

Re: Problem shutting down Linux under VM

2007-03-05 Thread Christian Borntraeger
On Monday 05 March 2007 12:50, LJ Mace wrote: > Where is this "kernel line" ? I've have the same > problem. I thought it was the 2 cpus defined. > thanks its usually in /etc/zipl.conf - look at the parameters line - edit the line - run zipl - reboot -- IBM Deutschland Entwicklung GmbH Vorsit

Re: Problem shutting down Linux under VM

2007-03-05 Thread LJ Mace
Where is this "kernel line" ? I've have the same problem. I thought it was the 2 cpus defined. thanks MAce --- Christian Borntraeger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sunday 04 March 2007 20:48, Roach, Dennis wrote: > > xautolog works great to bring Linux up. > > When, under Linux, I issue a shutdo

Re: Problem shutting down Linux under VM

2007-03-04 Thread Christian Borntraeger
On Sunday 04 March 2007 20:48, Roach, Dennis wrote: > xautolog works great to bring Linux up. > When, under Linux, I issue a shutdown -h, Linux comes down but the VM user > ID is still in disconnect status. The ID uses the standard profile from the > tool-kit that looks for the disconnect ans IPLs

Re: Problem shutting down Linux under VM

2007-03-04 Thread Rich Smrcina
Have you tried signal shutdown? When the shutdown completes, it will log the machine off. Roach, Dennis wrote: xautolog works great to bring Linux up. When, under Linux, I issue a shutdown -h, Linux comes down but the VM user ID is still in disconnect status. The ID uses the standard profile f

Problem shutting down Linux under VM

2007-03-04 Thread Roach, Dennis
xautolog works great to bring Linux up. When, under Linux, I issue a shutdown -h, Linux comes down but the VM user ID is still in disconnect status. The ID uses the standard profile from the tool-kit that looks for the disconnect ans IPLs 100 if it is. I have to logon to the Linux ID and log it o

Re: shutting down linux under vm

2005-04-28 Thread Christian Borntraeger
> Thanks. Do you also know where to find this type of info. http://awlinux1.alphaworks.ibm.com/developerworks/linux390/docu/l26bdd00.pdf --->page 343,344 more documentation is on http://awlinux1.alphaworks.ibm.com/developerworks/linux390/april2004_documentation.shtml -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Re: shutting down linux under vm

2005-04-28 Thread Thomas Broman
Thanks. Do you also know where to find this type of info. There are two options, vmhalt and vmpoff. It works, if you specify vmpoff=LOGOFF and use "halt -p" or "poweroff" If you specify vmhalt=LOGOFF and use "halt" it will work as well. you can specify both, the vmpoff and vmhalt option.

Re: shutting down linux under vm

2005-04-28 Thread Sebastian Korte
2005/4/28, Christian Borntraeger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Anybody knows if this is applicable to SLES 9.0 too. > > It don't seems to work. > [...] > > root=/dev/dasd/010f/part1 ro noinitrd dasd=010F,0100 vmpoff="LOGOFF" Yes, it works here with: parameters = "root=/dev/dasdc1 selinux=0 TERM=dumb e

Re: shutting down linux under vm

2005-04-28 Thread Christian Borntraeger
> Anybody knows if this is applicable to SLES 9.0 too. > It don't seems to work. [...] > root=/dev/dasd/010f/part1 ro noinitrd dasd=010F,0100 vmpoff="LOGOFF" There are two options, vmhalt and vmpoff. It works, if you specify vmpoff=LOGOFF and use "halt -p" or "poweroff" If you specify vmhalt=

Re: shutting down linux under vm

2005-04-28 Thread Thomas Broman
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offtopic: AW: Linux under vm

2004-08-31 Thread Frank Schwede, LSY
time than jpegging, ignore this mail. maybe time is more money than bandwith and storage. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Auftrag von Adam Thornton Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. September 2004 00:25 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: Linux under vm On Tue,

Re: Linux under vm

2004-08-31 Thread Adam Thornton
On Tue, 2004-08-31 at 17:10, David Boyes wrote: > Well, it works that way on *our* Debian systems, Adam ...8-) OK. See... > I've never supplied the -t option unless I need a specific filesystem > type (eg -t iso9660) or I want something other than NFS. And I *always* supply it because I don't

Re: Linux under vm

2004-08-31 Thread David Boyes
Well, it works that way on *our* Debian systems, Adam ...8-) I've never supplied the -t option unless I need a specific filesystem type (eg -t iso9660) or I want something other than NFS. It's probably good practice nowadays to use it, but let's not confuse things at this point. > He will need "

Re: Linux under vm

2004-08-31 Thread Adam Thornton
On Tue, 2004-08-31 at 16:13, David Boyes wrote: > Don't try to get fancy with -t, etc -- let's get it working with the > basics first. He will need "-t nfs" to tell the mount that the filesystem type is nfs. Unless mount looks for a colon in the filename and assumes nfs if it finds one. Does it?

Re: Linux under vm

2004-08-31 Thread David Boyes
Ralph, You need to mount the CD on the NFS server ('mount /dev/cdrom /cdrom'), then on the NFS server export the file system to your host (either explicitly with host=your-host-name or host=* in /etc/exports). On the NFS client, you need to create the mount point ('mkdir /cdrom'), then mount the

Re: Linux under vm

2004-08-31 Thread Adam Thornton
On Tue, 2004-08-31 at 15:14, Noll, Ralph wrote: > mount -t nfs 10.37.1.74:/cdrom /cdrom > mount: Mounting 10.37.1.74:/cdrom on /cdrom failed: No such file or > directory > # mkdir /cdrom > # mount -t nfs 10.37.1.74:/cdrom /cdrom > mount: Mounting 10.37.1.74:/cdrom on /cdrom failed: Invalid argumen

Re: Linux under vm

2004-08-31 Thread Adam Thornton
On Tue, 2004-08-31 at 14:56, Noll, Ralph wrote: > betatux:/etc # cat exports > # See the exports(5) manpage for a description of the syntax of this > file. > # This file contains a list of all directories that are to be exported > to > # other computers via NFS (Network File System). > # This file

Re: Linux under vm

2004-08-31 Thread Noll, Ralph
M > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Linux under vm > > > I just installed debian under vm > > I have a question > > I am having problems getting an nfs mount to happen. > > There are three steps to NFS mounts: > > 1) on the NFS server: the filesystem t

Re: Linux under vm

2004-08-31 Thread Noll, Ralph
; To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Linux under vm > > > I just installed debian under vm > > I have a question > > I am having problems getting an nfs mount to happen. > > There are three steps to NFS mounts: > > 1) on the NFS server: the filesystem to be

Re: Linux under vm

2004-08-31 Thread Noll, Ralph
; To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Linux under vm > > On Tue, 2004-08-31 at 12:30, Noll, Ralph wrote: > > here is my ls of the cd > > Well, it's mounted on /cdrom (really /media/cdrom. Hmm.) > What is in /etc/exports? > > You might want to tell the installer th

Re: Linux under vm

2004-08-31 Thread Adam Thornton
On Tue, 2004-08-31 at 12:30, Noll, Ralph wrote: > here is my ls of the cd Well, it's mounted on /cdrom (really /media/cdrom. Hmm.) What is in /etc/exports? You might want to tell the installer that you're mounting /media/cdrom, rather than /cdrom. I think "debian" in that directory is going t

Re: Linux under vm

2004-08-31 Thread David Boyes
> I just installed debian under vm > I have a question > I am having problems getting an nfs mount to happen. There are three steps to NFS mounts: 1) on the NFS server: the filesystem to be exported must be mounted. 2) on the NFS server: the filesystem must be exported to your client 3) on the NF

Re: Linux under vm

2004-08-31 Thread Noll, Ralph
here is my ls of the cd Ralph -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -

Re: Linux under vm

2004-08-31 Thread Adam Thornton
On Tue, 2004-08-31 at 08:44, Noll, Ralph wrote: > I just installed debian under vm > > I have a question > > I am having problems getting an nfs mount to happen. My first guess would be that you're mounting the wrong directory on the remote host. > I did the http install without a problem.. > Did

Re: Linux under vm

2004-08-31 Thread Noll, Ralph
the debian install is doing the mount _ From: Sergey Korzhevsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 9:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Linux under vm Try to mount with command similar like this

Re: Linux under vm

2004-08-31 Thread Sergey Korzhevsky
TECTED]> 31.08.2004 16:44 Please respond to Linux on 390 Port                 To:        [EMAIL PROTECTED]         cc:                 Subject:        Linux under vm I just installed debian under vm I have a question I am having problems getting an nfs mount to happen. I did the http ins

Linux under vm

2004-08-31 Thread Noll, Ralph
I just installed debian under vm I have a question I am having problems getting an nfs mount to happen. I did the http install without a problem.. Did the http install get the latest and greatest Release of Debian Is there a command to get the release of Debian... Like uname -a..? Att

Re: Linux under VM and Cloning

2004-07-11 Thread Post, Mark K
Yes, both of them do. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Shilson Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 2:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Linux under VM and Cloning > If you want to save yourself some serious time and headac

Re: Linux under VM and Cloning

2004-07-10 Thread Tom Shilson
> If you want to save yourself some serious time and headaches, there are > always the two commercial products that do all this for you: > Levanta > Deployment Manager for Linux <...snip...> Will either of these manage Linux on Intel also? Thanks, _/) Tom Shilson ~

Re: Linux under VM and Cloning

2004-07-10 Thread Tom Shilson
Linux on 390 Port <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 07/08/2004 11:15:46 AM: > I don't get to buy DASD. I get to use whatever the MVS group doesn't want > today. Sounds very familiar. We VMers usually get the MVS hand-me-downs. _/) Tom Shilson ~GEDW & VM System Ser

Re: Linux under VM and Cloning

2004-07-09 Thread Robert J Brenneman
The following are a collection of somewhat related thoughts on the cloning matter... It's occurred to me to wonder "Why bother worrying about whether the rpm database is correct on a cloned system?" If the only system that will be applying RPMs is the master system, and you forbid clones from ins

Re: PARM and such [was: Linux under VM and Cloning]

2004-07-09 Thread Volker Sameske
Currently the SCP data field is 4096 bytes in size under z/VM and 265 bytes in size under LPAR. The format is UTF8, but currently only the first 127 characters are supported, which means ASCII. SCP stands for system control program. And with the SCP data field it is possible to give some informatio

Re: PARM and such [was: Linux under VM and Cloning]

2004-07-08 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 07/08/2004 at 04:42 EST, Richard Troth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >http://www.research.ibm.com/journal/rd/483/banzhaf.pdf > > Excellent article. > Most complete description of SCSI IPL I have yet seen. > > The example of "OS specific load parameters" all the more strongly > impl

Re: PARM and such [was: Linux under VM and Cloning]

2004-07-08 Thread Richard Troth
> The latest issue of The Journal of Research and Dev. has an article on > SCSI IPL (real and VM): >http://www.research.ibm.com/journal/rd/483/banzhaf.pdf Excellent article. Most complete description of SCSI IPL I have yet seen. The example of "OS specific load parameters" all the more strong

Re: Linux under VM and Cloning

2004-07-08 Thread Wolfe, Gordon W
g C Levine > Reply To: Linux on 390 Port > Sent: Thursday, July 8, 2004 1:54 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Linux under VM and Cloning > > Hello from Gregg C Levine > So far you all have good ideas. > > However about that quote you chose Go

Re: Linux under VM and Cloning

2004-07-08 Thread Gregg C Levine
CTED] On Behalf Of > Wolfe, Gordon W > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 3:46 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Linux under VM and Cloning > > > > How much DASD does this really save you? Is it > > > worth the time and effort it takes to set this up

Re: Linux under VM and Cloning

2004-07-08 Thread Seader, Cameron
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 1:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Linux under VM and Cloning > > How much DASD does this really save you? Is it > > worth the time and effort it takes to set this up > A lot of people do it this way. I gave a paper on it at SHARE. You can

PARM and such [was: Linux under VM and Cloning]

2004-07-08 Thread Sal Torres/SBC Inc.
*** Reply to note of Thu, 08 Jul 2004 15:01:24 -0500 (EST/CDT) *** by [EMAIL PROTECTED] The latest issue of The Journal of Research and Dev. has an article on SCSI IPL (real and VM): http://www.research.ibm.com/journal/rd/483/banzhaf.pdf It would be nice if you could use SET LOADDEV on regular

Re: PARM and such [was: Linux under VM and Cloning]

2004-07-08 Thread Kern, Thomas
age- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Richard Troth > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 16:01 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: PARM and such [was: Linux under VM and Cloning] > > ...snipped... > > We really need proper support for parm handlin

Re: Linux under VM and Cloning

2004-07-08 Thread Richard Troth
> Less than $1500. Is it worth it? It's not the money. It's your time. If it SAVES TIME, then do it. If it TAKES MORE TIME, don't. For me, sharing DASD saves time. Not always, but often. But to do it, I have to consciously keep things in a mold where /usr or /opt (or whatever) is stat

PARM and such [was: Linux under VM and Cloning]

2004-07-08 Thread Richard Troth
We're running into an unnecessary ugliness in zSeries with respect to booting and configuration. We need "the PARM parm". There's a concept of a "boot command-line". This is good. Often, the boot command-line can be overridden at boot time. This is VERY good. But support for override is sli

Re: Linux under VM and Cloning

2004-07-08 Thread Wolfe, Gordon W
-- > From: David Boyes > Reply To: Linux on 390 Port > Sent: Thursday, July 8, 2004 7:35 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Linux under VM and Cloning > > > We are going with a lot of Linux Guests under VM. Close to 20 > > per IFL a

Re: Linux under VM and Cloning

2004-07-08 Thread Daniel Jarboe
On Thursday, July 08, 2004 10:48 AM Adam Thornton wrote: > On Thu, 2004-07-08 at 09:41, Daniel Jarboe wrote: > > the real issue was the > > effort that went into applying any updates and keeping the rpm database > > current on each guest. Stability was no problem. > > I haven't found a better way

Re: Linux under VM and Cloning

2004-07-08 Thread Kern, Thomas
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Linux under VM and Cloning > > > If the RPM updates the root of the clone, then how do you update the > kernel on a maintenance server and propagate it ? You cannot propagate > the root. ---

Re: Linux under VM and Cloning

2004-07-08 Thread Adam Thornton
On Thu, 2004-07-08 at 12:53, Levy, Alan wrote: > If the RPM updates the root of the clone, then how do you update the > kernel on a maintenance server and propagate it ? You cannot propagate > the root. All maintenance has to be applied once per guest, unless it only touches the read-only shared p

Re: Linux under VM and Cloning

2004-07-08 Thread Levy, Alan
Behalf Of Kern, Thomas Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 12:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Linux under VM and Cloning My setup is quite simplistic. ALL servers are running the same kernel and the same /usr. If I need to update the linux system, I do it on the maintenance server and then propogate

Re: Linux under VM and Cloning

2004-07-08 Thread Post, Mark K
:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Linux under VM and Cloning I know about Levanta, but I've never heard of Deployment Manager for Linux. Who makes it? "Post, Mark K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] m>

Re: Linux under VM and Cloning

2004-07-08 Thread James Melin
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Re: Linux under VM and Cloning

2004-07-08 Thread Post, Mark K
Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Seader, Cameron Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 9:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Linux under VM and Cloning We are going with a lot of Linux Guests under VM. Close to 20 per IFL and are wondering

Re: Linux under VM and Cloning

2004-07-08 Thread Marcy Cortes
From: Kern, Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 09:16 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Linux under VM and Cloning I don't get to buy DASD. I get to use whatever the MVS group doesn't want today. /Thomas Kern /301-903-2211 > -Original Messa

Re: Linux under VM and Cloning

2004-07-08 Thread Kern, Thomas
PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Linux under VM and Cloning > > > >For your environment that could be (20 - 1) * 2500 = 47500 > cylinders = 4.7 > >3390-9 volumes > > Less than $1500. Is it worth it? > > Marcy Cortes > > ---

Re: Linux under VM and Cloning

2004-07-08 Thread Marcy Cortes
>For your environment that could be (20 - 1) * 2500 = 47500 cylinders = 4.7 >3390-9 volumes Less than $1500. Is it worth it? Marcy Cortes -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL

Re: Linux under VM and Cloning

2004-07-08 Thread Kern, Thomas
there you could have parallel maintenace systems. /Thomas Kern /301-903-2211 > -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Levy, Alan > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 12:04 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Linux under VM an

Re: Linux under VM and Cloning

2004-07-08 Thread Adam Thornton
On Thu, 2004-07-08 at 11:03, Levy, Alan wrote: > We tried making /usr a ro minidisk. It did not work for us. When we had > to upgrade our kernel using an RPM, it failed since it tried to load > files to the /usr which was not owned by the clone. > > How did you get around this ? For applying maint

Re: Linux under VM and Cloning

2004-07-08 Thread Adam Thornton
On Thu, 2004-07-08 at 10:37, Arty Ecock wrote: >Has anyone else run into problems with R/O root disks? Do you run into problems other than that it complains about it? > Something in > initrd wants that disk R/W. Adam suggested changing the parmline to > something like "DASD=150(ro), ..." but

Re: Linux under VM and Cloning

2004-07-08 Thread Levy, Alan
-Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kern, Thomas Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 11:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Linux under VM and Cloning The production copy of the /usr minidisk is NEVER linked RW by anyone. I have a separate maintenance

Re: Linux under VM and Cloning

2004-07-08 Thread Adam Thornton
On Thu, 2004-07-08 at 10:27, Seader, Cameron wrote: > How did you setup that read-only /usr minidisk? did you link to a minidisk from VM > or is it mounted on another guest as read-write? > TIA It should be read-only to everyone. Because of Linux file caching, if anyone has a write link to it, e

Re: Linux under VM and Cloning

2004-07-08 Thread Arty Ecock
Hi, I've found William Sculley's basevol/guestvol approach to be fairly simple to set up. It's too bad that I goofed somewhere, as I can't get past my read-only root volume problems (with initrd). If I can get past this problem, the setup looks extremely promising (i.e., cloned images would o

Re: Linux under VM and Cloning

2004-07-08 Thread Kern, Thomas
ECTED] > Subject: Re: Linux under VM and Cloning > > > How did you setup that read-only /usr minidisk? did you link > to a minidisk from VM or is it mounted on another guest as > read-write? > TIA > -Cameron

Re: Linux under VM and Cloning

2004-07-08 Thread Seader, Cameron
4 09:02 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Linux under VM and Cloning > > > We are going with a lot of Linux Guests under VM. Close to 20 > per IFL and are wondering about the experiences with the > basevol/guestvol scenario. How many People accually use this > scenario? How

Re: Linux under VM and Cloning

2004-07-08 Thread Adam Thornton
On Thu, 2004-07-08 at 09:41, Daniel Jarboe wrote: > the real issue was the > effort that went into applying any updates and keeping the rpm database > current on each guest. Stability was no problem. I haven't found a better way to do this than a sacrificial clone of the pre-service basevol attac

Re: Linux under VM and Cloning

2004-07-08 Thread Daniel Jarboe
> We are going with a lot of Linux Guests under VM. Close to 20 per IFL and > are wondering about the experiences with the basevol/guestvol scenario. > How many People accually use this scenario? How much DASD does this really > save you? Is it worth the time and effort it takes to set this up? Cou

Re: Linux under VM and Cloning

2004-07-08 Thread David Boyes
> We are going with a lot of Linux Guests under VM. Close to 20 > per IFL and are wondering about the experiences with the > basevol/guestvol scenario. How many People accually use this > scenario? At least a dozen of our customers do. CA obviously does (see Bill's paper). It's proven to be a pret

Re: Linux under VM and Cloning

2004-07-08 Thread Kern, Thomas
EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Linux under VM and Cloning > > > We are going with a lot of Linux Guests under VM. Close to 20 > per IFL and are wondering about the experiences with the > basevol/guestvol scenario. How many People accually use this > scenario? How much DASD does thi

Re: Linux under VM and Cloning

2004-07-08 Thread Seader, Cameron
u all can help. Cameron Seader -Original Message- From: Post, Mark K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 4:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Linux under VM and Cloning This might be of some help. Some people on the mailing list have implemented the &qu

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