Re: network problem: internet sharing

2003-07-22 Thread Keith Antoine
On Tuesday 22 July 2003 12:25 am, Alma J Wetzker wrote: Keith, I know I am just the clueless newbie here but before you reinstall XP I just want to clarify the problem in my head. The modem goes to the linux box through an ethernet card. The linux box works. The linux box has a second

Re: [OT] I can't belive this can be happen ????????

2003-07-22 Thread Michael Scottaline
On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 22:31:37 -0400 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: Quoth Linux Novice: update SCO Group, a company that says Linux infringes on its Unix intellectual property, announced on Monday that it has been granted key Unix copyrights and will start a program to let

Re: Gui tool to compare 2 directories

2003-07-22 Thread Jean Sagi
I used mc and looks cool. I found Kdiff3 and it works very cool too, but since I use the gui very often mc rank second (one thing I like about mc is its speed). Thanks for your comments Chucho! Ken Moffat wrote: Jean Sagi wrote: Hi all, I used Tkdiff to compare 2 files and I like it a lot,

Re: Zaire still won't connect

2003-07-22 Thread Joel Hammer
Just checking the threads on pilot-link for a problem I have with install-datebook. The maintainer of that webpage was unemployed for over a year, and was asking for a few small donations to maintain the domain name. It doesn't sound like any businesses are supporting pilot-link. [They have

Re: Zaire still won't connect

2003-07-22 Thread Net Llama!
Joel, no offense, but you don't seem to remotely understand how open source development works. If companies are that concerned over the continuing devlopment of jpilot or any other project, they usually hire the developer to ensure that it continues. This is what has occured in many many cases

So do I need to start learning SuSE?

2003-07-22 Thread Michael Hipp
http://rhl.redhat.com/about/faq/ This whole thing smacks of We have no interest in you unless you're a deep pockets enterprise that will throw money at us in basketfuls. A year or two from now, will there even be a RHL that has documentation, support, security updates, QA testing, etc. etc.?

Re: So do I need to start learning SuSE?

2003-07-22 Thread Net Llama!
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Michael Hipp wrote: http://rhl.redhat.com/about/faq/ This whole thing smacks of We have no interest in you unless you're a deep pockets enterprise that will throw money at us in basketfuls. A year or two from now, will there even be a RHL that has documentation,

Re: So do I need to start learning SuSE?

2003-07-22 Thread bof
Michael Hipp wrote: This whole thing smacks of We have no interest in you unless you're a deep pockets enterprise that will throw money at us in basketfuls. A year or two from now, will there even be a RHL that has documentation, support, security updates, QA testing, etc. etc.? In the end,

Re: network problem: internet sharing

2003-07-22 Thread Matthew Carpenter
Well, you did say that the machine was running XP :) On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 10:28:59 -0400 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So there is something wrong on the downstairs machine or the connection to this machine !! Logic dictates that. -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: network problem: internet sharing

2003-07-22 Thread Matthew Carpenter
No, it's sysctl, not sysclt like was originally posted. On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 06:22:06 -0500 David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sysclt net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 Ran into trouble at last command, says sysclt 'command not found'. One of those systems that doesn't use sysctl. Well, the

Re: poll: best pop3 and imap servers?

2003-07-22 Thread Matthew Carpenter
That's a toughy and requires some opinion. Currently, I prefer either UW IMAP or Courier, since they use standard Maildir mail files which allow you to un-f$#@ things if something gets dorked up. UW is my favorite for small implementations at the moment because it is simple yet powerful. Cyrus

Re: poll: best pop3 and imap servers?

2003-07-22 Thread Matthew Carpenter
You can MAKE Sendmail do ANYTHING... :) On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 16:52:50 -0400 Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sendmail born-and-bred. ;) -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.eisgr.com/ Enterprise Information Systems *Network Service

Re: [OT] I can't belive this can be happen ????????

2003-07-22 Thread Matthew Carpenter
Very true. The problem is incentive. Not only is the financial success of a lawyer determined by the lawsuits he successfully litigates (Quality and Quantity), but there is a notion that Lawyers must be rich... It may sound unAmerican, but perhaps Lawyers should have a income cap legally

Re: network problem: internet sharing

2003-07-22 Thread Matthew Carpenter
Is the Linux box running a firewall that blocks ICMP or only accepts limited ICMP? On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 18:58:48 -0400 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I can ping one way why not the other ? -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.eisgr.com/

Re: So do I need to start learning SuSE?

2003-07-22 Thread Matthew Carpenter
I'm not quite sure I follow the logic in the last sentence. But I would tell Michael to learn SuSE. It's a breath of fresh air over RH and MDK. It pleases even an old COL-er On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 09:32:33 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You've got this all wrong. I'm not

Re: So do I need to start learning SuSE?

2003-07-22 Thread Net Llama!
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Matthew Carpenter wrote: I'm not quite sure I follow the logic in the last sentence. But I would tell How so? Michael to learn SuSE. It's a breath of fresh air over RH and MDK. It pleases even an old COL-er That's not been my experience. My use of SuSE has been

Re: poll: best pop3 and imap servers?

2003-07-22 Thread Gary Wilson
subject about says it all. what pop3 and imap servers does everyone prefer? and why? thanks I like Courier-IMAP. The reason? It works well with Postfix. As a sendmail guy this may not be much help to you. But I prefer Postfix and I've found that Courier works well with it. If you don't have

Re: So do I need to start learning SuSE?

2003-07-22 Thread Bill Campbell
On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 11:00:35AM -0400, Net Llama! wrote: On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Matthew Carpenter wrote: I'm not quite sure I follow the logic in the last sentence. But I would tell How so? Michael to learn SuSE. It's a breath of fresh air over RH and MDK. It pleases even an old COL-er

Re: So do I need to start learning SuSE?

2003-07-22 Thread Bill Campbell
On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 09:37:45AM -0500, Shawn L Johnston wrote: ... Nope, need to learn UnixWare and dump linux. er or not. ;) UnixWare? No way! I wouldn't be suprised to see SuSE follow pretty soon as well, it doesn't seem like there is money in selling retail boxes. Selling retail boxes

Re: network problem: internet sharing

2003-07-22 Thread David A. Bandel
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 18:58:48 -0400 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] If I can ping one way why not the other ? I've seen this stupidity from Windoze before. Pings from Linux work, but from XP, no. Could be one of several things: 1. netmask on the XP computer 2. second

Re: poll: best pop3 and imap servers?

2003-07-22 Thread Douglas J Hunley
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthew Carpenter shocked and awed us all by speaking: You can MAKE Sendmail do ANYTHING... :) Lord knows I've certainly *TRIED* to make it do things it just AINT gonna do.. thanks for that Matt. Needed a smile - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at

Re: Zaire still won't connect

2003-07-22 Thread Aaron Grewell
Again, what business would rely on software and support supplied in their spare time by out of work programmers asking for donations? What if the pilot-link page just went away? The lack of support for USB PDA's by the distros (I would be happy to hear if SUSE or Redhat support USB PDA's out

Re: [OT] I can't belive this can be happen ????????

2003-07-22 Thread ronnie gauthier
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 06:04:34 -0400 - Michael Scottaline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the following Re: Re: [OT] I can't belive this can be happen I dont think that anything seen on the surface is SCO's real intention. Linux has taken a huge bite out of the *nix market and as a result

RE: [OT] I can't belive this can be happen ????????

2003-07-22 Thread Wil McGilvery
Does any of this affect FreeBSD? Regards, Wil McGilvery Manager Lynch Digital Media Inc 416-744-7949 416-716-3964 (cell) 1-866-314-4678 416-744-0406  FAX www.LynchDigital.com -Original Message- From: ronnie gauthier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003

Re: [OT] I can't belive this can be happen ????????

2003-07-22 Thread Bill Campbell
On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 02:16:40PM -0400, Wil McGilvery wrote: Does any of this affect FreeBSD? I doubt it. ATT already fought that battle about 1995 and lost badly as it was found that ATT had in fact incorporated code into their Unix from BSD, stripping off the copyright notices in violation

RE: [OT] I can't belive this can be happen ????????

2003-07-22 Thread Gary Wilson
--- Wil McGilvery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does any of this affect FreeBSD? No. It went through the legal vetting a decade ago. For the truly obsessed (you know who you are), for those who run for cover as soon as SCO says boo (pay me or else), you should switch to OpenBSD. It's obsessively

Re: network problem: internet sharing

2003-07-22 Thread Alma J Wetzker
Re: network problem: internet sharing Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue, 22 Jul 2003 18:58:48 -0400 On Tuesday 22 July 2003 12:25 am, Alma J Wetzker wrote: Keith, The modem goes to the linux box through an ethernet card. The linux box works. The linux box has a second ethernet card that is

Re: network problem: internet sharing

2003-07-22 Thread Keith Antoine
On Tuesday 22 July 2003 10:17 am, Matthew Carpenter wrote: No, it's sysctl, not sysclt like was originally posted. It not found anyway so it must have been a typo on my part. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising

Re: network problem: internet sharing

2003-07-22 Thread Keith Antoine
On Tuesday 22 July 2003 10:47 am, Matthew Carpenter wrote: Is the Linux box running a firewall that blocks ICMP or only accepts limited ICMP? I set it for HIGH security and its running stonewall, other than that ?? But then it does not matter whether ists XP I am in or linux it still refuses

Re: So do I need to start learning SuSE?

2003-07-22 Thread Keith Antoine
On Tuesday 22 July 2003 11:00 am, Net Llama! wrote: On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Matthew Carpenter wrote: I'm not quite sure I follow the logic in the last sentence. But I would tell How so? Michael to learn SuSE. It's a breath of fresh air over RH and MDK. It pleases even an old COL-er

Re: So do I need to start learning SuSE?

2003-07-22 Thread Keith Antoine
On Tuesday 22 July 2003 11:41 am, Bill Campbell wrote: On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 11:00:35AM -0400, Net Llama! wrote: On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Matthew Carpenter wrote: I'm not quite sure I follow the logic in the last sentence. But I would tell How so? Michael to learn SuSE. It's a breath

Re: network problem: internet sharing

2003-07-22 Thread Keith Antoine
On Tuesday 22 July 2003 12:09 pm, David A. Bandel wrote: On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 18:58:48 -0400 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] If I can ping one way why not the other ? I've seen this stupidity from Windoze before. Pings from Linux work, but from XP, no. Could be one of

Re: So do I need to start learning SuSE?

2003-07-22 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Wednesday 23 July 2003 6:37 am, Keith Antoine wrote: On Tuesday 22 July 2003 11:41 am, Bill Campbell wrote: On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 11:00:35AM -0400, Net Llama! wrote: On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Matthew Carpenter wrote: I'm not quite sure I follow the logic in the last sentence. But I

Re: So do I need to start learning SuSE?

2003-07-22 Thread Matthew Carpenter
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 11:00:35 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Matthew Carpenter wrote: I'm not quite sure I follow the logic in the last sentence. But I would tell How so? How was that how UnitedLinux all got started? Michael to learn SuSE. It's a

Re: network problem: internet sharing

2003-07-22 Thread David A. Bandel
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 06:41:57 -0400 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 22 July 2003 12:09 pm, David A. Bandel wrote: On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 18:58:48 -0400 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] If I can ping one way why not the other ? I've seen this stupidity

Re: network problem: internet sharing

2003-07-22 Thread David A. Bandel
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 14:41:47 -0500 Alma J Wetzker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] I am not sure what is going on. Just to clarify some basics; each card in a machine needs its own ip address, ideally, each card should be on its own subnet. (that may not be a requirement but it sure makes

RE: network problem: internet sharing

2003-07-22 Thread Wil McGilvery
Just a thought, but could this issue be a hardware issue? Is the cable a new one or an old one? Can you test or replace the network cards with a spare? A while back I had a Linux firewall go wonky on me and I spent a lot of time troubleshooting because it was an intermittent problem with

Re: So do I need to start learning SuSE?

2003-07-22 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Michael Hipp: http://rhl.redhat.com/about/faq/ This whole thing smacks of We have no interest in you unless you're a deep pockets enterprise that will throw money at us in basketfuls. So, Slackware/Gentoo/Debian/Mandrake/SuSE/Lycoris/... A year or two from now, will there even be a

Re: Compilation problems

2003-07-22 Thread Ion
At some undetermined time...NetLlama wrote:- On 07/20/03 18:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I run Caldera e2.4. The kernel does not provide USB support for my scanner. I downloaded kernel 2.2.18 which does support USB, compiled it, installed it, then rebooted. Everything appeared to run

Re: poll: best pop3 and imap servers?

2003-07-22 Thread Gary Wilson
--- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary Wilson wrote: I use uw-imap with postfix. It worked immediately upon install (debian/libranet linux). Yes, I didn't mean to imply that UW-imap wouldn't work with Postfix. I should have clarified that what I was saying was that

Fw: If Linux was a car -

2003-07-22 Thread el lodger
Begin forwarded message: Subject: If Linux was a car M: Hey Pete, Can you help me put a radio in my Debian? P: You're an Idiot, RTFM! M: I need more help than that. P: You're an idiot! I did a Google search. It's in the page referenced by the footnote in the

Re: poll: best pop3 and imap servers?

2003-07-22 Thread Ken Moffat
Gary Wilson wrote: subject about says it all. what pop3 and imap servers does everyone prefer? and why? thanks I like Courier-IMAP. The reason? It works well with Postfix. As a sendmail guy this may not be much help to you. But I prefer Postfix and I've found that Courier works well

Re: [OT] I can't belive this can be happen ????????

2003-07-22 Thread Alma J Wetzker
In reguards to SCO, we have to remember that SUN is paying a good chunk of SCO's legal fees. The traditional *nix vendors have had some very profitable niches gutted by Windoze. They are starting to see the same from linux and M$ has also noticed. I think they are all working to shut down

Process select for SuSE 8.2

2003-07-22 Thread Alma J Wetzker
I am looking at an upgrade path from Caldera WS 3.1.1 and have been playing with SuSE pro 8.2. Is there a graphical utility to switch on or off applications at boot time? Things like Samba or MySQL? In col there was webmin, and kde gave me a way through system settings. I can't find

Re: Process select for SuSE 8.2

2003-07-22 Thread Myles Green
On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 22:52, Alma J Wetzker wrote: I am looking at an upgrade path from Caldera WS 3.1.1 and have been playing with SuSE pro 8.2. Is there a graphical utility to switch on or off applications at boot time? Things like Samba or MySQL? In col there was webmin, and kde

RE: network problem: internet sharing

2003-07-22 Thread Keith Antoine
At 06:47 PM 22/07/2003 -0400, you wrote: Just a thought, but could this issue be a hardware issue? Is the cable a new one or an old one? Can you test or replace the network cards with a spare? A while back I had a Linux firewall go wonky on me and I spent a lot of time troubleshooting because

Re: network problem: internet sharing

2003-07-22 Thread Keith Antoine
At 05:04 PM 22/07/2003 -0500, you wrote: No. You have networking UNIX style (the way over 100+ OSs do it, including non-UNIX OSs) and there's M$' version of networking. There are no M$ networking experts, only MCSEs (with no clue how real networking works). I doubt any of the non-UNIX MCSEs

Re: [OT] welcome back skippy!

2003-07-22 Thread Keith Antoine
At 08:51 AM 22/07/2003 -0400, you wrote: I would also like to say welcome back. I have lurked on this list and the old caldera list for years, its nice to hear from you. -- Ray Russell Mac OS X 10.2.6 Thanks grin, it's not till one does something like unsubbing that one realises that some