Michael Sondow wrote:
Diane Cabell wrote:
I do not teach a seminar of any kind for the Association of Internet
Professionals. Your statement is a total fabrication.
A total fabrication? Then why does Bret Fausett's website
(http://www.lextext.com/news/3-2.html) say ""Di
those horrific experiences.
Diane Cabell
Berkman Center for Internet Society
Harvard Law School
http://cyber.law.harvard.edu
- Original Message -
From: Michael Sondow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Jay Fenello [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Bret A. Fausett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday
Exceptionally well said, Andy. Thank you for sharing it.
Diane Cabell
Berkman Center for Internet Society
Harvard Law School
- Original Message -
From: Andy Oram [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.oreilly.com/~andyo/ar/intergovernmental.html
November 30, 1999
WTO + SDMI = NWO
can join us.
Diane Cabell
Berkman Fellow
N delegate either
directly or even at one remove. I expect to have that right as a member of
the ICANN At-large.
Diane Cabell
http://www.mama-tech.com
Fausett, Gaeta Lund
Boston
- Original Message -
From: Greg Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTE
for voting, but I don't expect that a public vote would
have outcomes much different than those which generally favor big
business.
--gregbo
The amount of trademark-friendly legislation that has sailed through
Congress recently is certainly strong evidence of that.
Diane Cabell
http://www.mama
This is my concern also. Or some remote NGO.
Diane Cabell
http://www.mama-tech.com
Fausett, Gaeta Lund
Boston
- Original Message -
From: Greg Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL
. This created an impression with me that he was tarring
the web cast with the same feather. I have included Joop's full text below.
Diane Cabell
http://www.mama-tech.com
Fausett, Gaeta Lund, LLP
Boston, MA
was there more text that you omitted to quote perhaps?
I dont have access to my archives
. This created an impression with me that he was tarring
the web cast with the same feather. I have included Joop's full text below.
Diane Cabell
http://www.mama-tech.com
Fausett, Gaeta Lund, LLP
Boston, MA
was there more text that you omitted to quote perhaps?
I dont have access to my archives
l meetings,
just as there are sound reasons to offer distance learning courses; but I
don't think they encourage efficiency.
Diane Cabell
http://www.mama-tech.com
Fausett, Gaeta Lund, LLP
Boston, MA
ere roghly 150 people in the Berlin
open meeting.
Diane Cabell
http://www.mama-tech.com
Fausett, Gaeta Lund, LLP
Boston, MA
of communication than
face-to-face meetings.
dc
Richard J. Sexton wrote:
I believe that many people on working committees simply do not find e-mail
adequate to the task.
If it wasn't adequate, the Internet would not exist; it's how we
got this far.
Diane Cabell
http://www.mama-tech.com
Fausett, Gaeta
open session
was much more crowded.
Yeah, the GAC folks and their hangers on might come close that number too, but
there seems to me to be 140 chairs in the main meeting hall based on
a row x column count.
Diane Cabell
http://www.mama-tech.com
Fausett, Gaeta Lund, LLP
Boston, MA
it and
perhaps make recommendations). I think the purpose of the Board
meetings, on the other hand, *should* be to hear complaints and
suggestions from the community as well as to attempt to assess consensus
on all issues.
Diane Cabell
http://www.mama-tech.com
Fausett, Gaeta Lund, LLP
Boston, MA
250 words. We don't intend to be mean about this -- but longer comments are
So long as the same rule is imposed on physically present speakers, I have
no major objection.
Diane Cabell
http://www.mama-tech.com
Fausett, Gaeta Lund, LLP
Boston, MA
, Chileans or Brazilians by enforcing
these conditions harshly. Why not let the Meeting Chair use some discretion based on
how easy it seems for the speaker to get his/her point across?
dc
On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, Diane Cabell wrote:
The Chair uses a timer for physical speakers.
dc
Diane Cabell
Mark C. Langston wrote:
On 22 August 1999, Diane Cabell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
IMHO, we should lighten up a bit. Rabid bean counting somewhat
defeats the pu rpose of having meetings in different regions of the
world. One of the primary values is to give folks outside the US a
little
testimony is archived at
http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/icann/events/ ICANN pays the costs of the
webcasting services that Berkman provides.
Diane Cabell
Berkman Fellow
Jay Fenello wrote:
At 03:27 AM 8/21/99 , Ellen Rony wrote:
()
The website says Andrew McLaughlin is Interim Treasurer and CFO
Thanks for this cheery thought.
Diane Cabell
Fausett, Gaeta Lund, LLP
Boston, MA
Kerry Miller wrote:
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 07:33:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: News Bureau - CJPsa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [CJPsa] BANGLA: 3.16 m illegal claimants names struck off
http://www.hindustantimes.com
. On my Netscape mail, your messages always appear
formatted with a very narrow margin, maybe that contributes to the
problem. Ellen's were double-spaced, but otherwise quite readable on my
browser.
Diane Cabell
http://www.mama-tech.com
Fausett, Gaeta Lund, LLP
Boston, MA
that it
was an administrative task, and not research, it isn't clear that the government ever
had any obligation to perform the task in the first place.
Diane Cabell
http://www.mama-tech.com
Fausett, Gaeta Lund, LLP
Boston, MA
realities.
Diane Cabell
http://www.mama-tech.com
Fausett, Gaeta Lund, LLP
Boston, MA
Weisberg wrote:
Diane Cabell wrote:
Another interesting research issue is whether it was a government asset in the
first
place. It wasn't exclusively for the benefit of the government since plenty of
non-governmental parties were also using it. Even if you take the approach
r in the hands of NSI and we all suck up to it to keep the internet
functioning.
Absolutely. If you do spend any time mucking around with the agreements, I'd
really like to hear your thoughts.
Diane Cabell
http://www.mama-tech.com
Fausett, Gaeta Lund, LLP
Boston, MA
actly what I'm saying.
Diane Cabell
http://www.mama-tech.com
Fausett, Gaeta Lund, LLP
Boston, MA
Kent Crispin wrote:
On Sat, Jul 24, 1999 at 11:38:28AM -0400, Diane Cabell wrote:
you have any right in it. If you pay someone to take pictures of your wedding but
fail to
do it under a carefully worded contract, you are only entitled under US law to
get copies
of the photos. You
ase itself. Under US law, databases are not
protectible unless kept secret or arranged in some creative fashion.
Diane Cabell
http://www.mama-tech.com
Fausett, Gaeta Lund, LLP
Boston, MA
idea, Eric.
Diane Cabell
http://www.mama-tech.com
Fausett, Gaeta Lund, LLP
Boston, MA
corporate holders? Should they be permitted to vote in the at-large?
Diane Cabell
http://www.mama-tech.com
Fausett, Gaeta Lund, LLP
Boston, MA
circumstances.
Diane Cabell
http://www.mama-tech.com
Fausett, Gaeta Lund, LLP
Boston, MA
e-mail addresses is precluded by the software.
(every voter gets a unique password)
On top of that it is very easy to analyze web logs for any possible
irregularity.
For a few thousand votes you do not need more than this.
We have Diane Cabell and Simson Garfinkel as observers.
Even ICANN
again."
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
--
Diane Cabell
http://www.mama-tech.com
Fausett, Gaeta Lund, LLP
Boston, MA
is electronic or postal) and, if so, I expect that some accomodation
will be made for those economies that cannot easily afford such a luxury, but it
is very unfortunate to have to take a step that is such a hardship for one
particular part of the electorate.
Diane Cabell
Fausett, Gaeta Lund
Boston
to the Congressional hearings now, so I
don't know how long follow up will take.
Diane Cabell
http://www.mama-tech.com
Fausett, Gaeta Lund, LLP
Boston, MA
, but then the other 9 Board members may vote
against it and therefore block it.
Further, ICANN isn't a government with guns to enforce such a policy. If such
a decision was intolerable to the greater number of the constituents having to
pay it, would it really fly at all?
Diane Cabell
http://www.mama
Mark C. Langston wrote:
On 15 July 1999, Diane Cabell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Further, ICANN isn't a government with guns to enforce such a policy. If such
a decision was intolerable to the greater number of the constituents having to
pay it, would it really fly at all?
Oh, we
ater.
Yup. That's a possible, too. The exact number of seats during trials
wasn't written in stone.
Diane Cabell
http://www.mama-tech.com
Fausett, Gaeta Lund, LLP
Boston, MA
Country
B says you may not reveal shareholders' personal data under any circumstances?
And if you don't live in Country B and didn't elect their officials, why would
they have any more right to represent your interests in regulating ICANN than the
ICANN Board itself has?
Diane Cabell
http://www.mam
.
Diane Cabell
http://www.mama-tech.com
Fausett, Gaeta Lund
Boston
The .us registrations are still free, I believe.
Diane Cabell
http://www.mama-tech.com
Fausett, Gaeta Lund
Boston
- Original Message -
From: Greg Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
True the WORLD doesn't owe me or anyone a Domain name.
But the USG DOES! I know because my tax dollars
A person can have hundreds of trademarks but only one domain ?
Thats pretty silly Diane.
That's your opinion, Richard and you are certainly entitled to it.
Nonetheless, this silly method is used by some of the Scandinavian
ccTLDs.
hmm, and shall we discuss the customer approval
systems?
Diane Cabell
http://www.mama-tech.com
Fausett, Gaeta Lund, LLP
Boston, MA
domain-per-customer?
Diane Cabell
http://www.mama-tech.com
Fausett, Gaeta Lund, LLP
Boston, MA
- Original Message -
From: Kent Crispin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 06:46:50PM -0400, Diane Cabell wrote:
But if someone registers 200 common words for resale, that should
not be protected. It is not only denying access to commercial users
- Original Message -
From: Richard J. Sexton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 05, 1999 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: [IFWP] Re: Anti-cybersquatting (Trademark Owners) Protection
Act
Why not one-domain-per-customer?
Why ?
A proposed solution to the
I think if trademark lawyers are defining the DNS then it's
only fair plan that nameserver operators should define tradematk
law.
Hey, you engineering wonks had first shot at the naming policy. It just
didn't take US law into account so now we overbearing know-it-alls have to
come in and clean
systems?
Diane Cabell
http://www.mama-tech.com
Fausett, Gaeta Lund, LLP
Boston, MA
Diane,
I dislike answering questions with questions, but...
to whom does the IETF make recommendations today?
Gene...
I don't know, offhand. Don't they recommend to the IAB? Then once it is
approved by them
Hi Diane Cabell, you wrote on 7/5/99 10:37:57 PM:
- Original Message -
From: Richard J. Sexton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 05, 1999 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: [IFWP] Re: Anti-cybersquatting (Trademark Owners) Protection
Act
Why not one-domain-per-customer
A proposed solution to the "cybersquatting" problem Mr. Crispin raised
(one
person registering tons of generic words and jacking up the price for
the
"real" users). This is the solution that some ccTLDs have used.
There are laws to deal with this... there are laws to deal with this...
Gene Marsh wrote:
By no means do I believe the IETF is a "perfect" model. It has plenty of
flaws. However, it works and is open. ICANN could certainly learn worlds
from their approach.
[your turn!]
Being an IETF doofus myself, I may be misremembering, but I thought that
the IAB had to
that nameserver operators should define tradematk
law.
Hey, you engineering wonks had first shot at the naming policy.
No we didn't. Not with these guys running interference.
http://dns.vrx.net/news/by_date/old/1995/Nov/isocplan.html
Thanks for the reference.
Diane Cabell
http://www.mama-tech.com
a problem with
that. You want to locate a Taurus, you can keyword it in a search engine
and be taken to (ta daa) ford.com.
I could stand education on why it is so critical to have a separate
registration for taurus.com.
Diane Cabell
http://www.mama-tech.com
Fausett, Gaeta Lund
Boston
k on
goods or services nor the right to acquire a domain registration for it.
At most, a domain registration would seem to be a license of some sort but it
seems more akin to one's status as a beneficiary under a Will prior to the
testator's death. It's an interesting research question.
Diane C
How do you verify the identity of a voter or otherwise avoid the same person
registering under multiple addresses?
Diane Cabell
http://www.mama-tech.com
Fausett, Gaeta Lund, LLP
Boston, MA
Joop Teernstra wrote:
Thanks for letting me know. It is a typical example of a bottom-up effort
for the suggestion.
If anyone can identify corporations that are casting votes electronically, I'd
be most grateful for the information.
Diane Cabell
http://www.mama-tech.com
Fausett, Gaeta Lund, LLP
Boston, MA
Ellen Rony wrote:
Eric Weisberg wrote:
Here is an exchange I just had off list regarding
e a 3-hour Economics exam with Jon
as proctor while Wendy retired to write her senior thesis.
These students are absolutely phenomenal. It is such a privilege to have them on
board. Your kind words are much appreciated, Richard.
Diane Cabell
Fausett, Gaeta Lund
Boston, MA
Richard J. Sexton
inappropriate?
Diane Cabell
http://www.mama-tech.com
Fausett, Gaeta Lund, LLP
Boston, MA
Richard J. Sexton wrote:
I tired my best. You'll note that about 4:12 pm on wednesday I asked her
to read them and she wouldnt. I don't think "having the scribes
prepare summaries of the remote comments&qu
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http://www.mama-tech.com
Fausett, Gaeta
I forgot to mention that the comments that come in from people listening to the
webcasts are also read to the assembly.
dc
Diane Cabell wrote:
Hans K (I cannot spell it now, the Dutch ICANN board member).
It really makes a difference being here, because the Board doesn't read many
take some responsibility to
ensure that there were enough candidates. Your concerns about what a nom
com might do are valid however and that's why we didn't set up a nom com for
general purposes, but only in the particular situations outlined in
Principle 7.
Diane Cabell
MAC
e month after the Member has been registered.
COMMENT #10
I suppose capture and the time needed verify membership is the issue
here. But I'll need time to get my members/voters signed up. So the
time to election, i.e., the time from announcement to the Election
Day, at least initially, must
(after each region has seated
one) be selected without regard to regional representation. I think ICANN's
latest proposal on diversity still needs some tweaking on that point.
Diane Cabell
MAC
Izumi AIZU wrote:
I have little time to read the thread here, so please correct me if
I misunders
Greg Skinner wrote:
"Marsh, Miles (Gene)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(...)
This does not work either.
Of course, if people are unwilling to compromise.
...then we have to pass laws.
Diane Cabell
http://.mama-tech.com
Fausett, Gaeta Lund, LLP
Boston, MA
Ellen Rony wrote:
So, my query is this: Will NSI in its registrar capacity be required to
indemnify itself (as registry), which takes it off the hook against any and
all claims, damages, liabilities, costs and expenses, including reasonable
legal fees and expenses arising out of or
r, the MAC is trying to set up a membership structure that will
allow you to elect replacements as soon as possible.
Diane Cabell
MAC
details of a cumulative voting procedure.
Diane Cabell
MAC
Michael Sondow wrote:
Diane Cabell a écrit:
All three of these statements are incorrect.
Again, I call attention to the reports submitted to ICANN in Singapore,
and caution against drawing incorrect conclusions from the abbreviated
notes of the teleconference call.
Singapore was two
ould never be operated at that
price range.
Diane Cabell
MAC
o have taken the time to study the reports, are
usually very astute. Hats off to you for doing your homework.
Diane Cabell
MAC
Mr. Cook:
Although you've asked Dan Steinberg for comment, please accept mine as well.
Diane Cabell
MAC
Mr. Cook quotes Michael Sondow:
{...}
This said, we offer a brief critique of the MAC's recommendations as
expressed in the Summary of the MAC Conference Call
(http://www.icann.org/mac
by a Nominating Committee. I
think membership should be fee-based, but our study indicates that adjusting fees
for developing nations ends up costing more than it brings in. No matter what, I
do not want to see an ICANN operating at a deficit.
Diane Cabell
MAC
Gordon Cook wrote:
I got
of the Bayh-Dole bill.
Diane Cabell
http://.mama-tech.com
Fausett, Gaeta Lund, LLP
Boston, MA
. The WIPO proposal is one policy iniative. Are you
suggesting an engineering solution?
Diane Cabell
http://www.mama-tech.com
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On the Internet,// \\ no one knows you're a dog.
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http://www.mama-tech.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fausett, Gaeta Lund, LLP
21 School Street, 3rd Floor
Boston, MA
1.617.227.1600 (vox)
1.617.227.1608
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On the Internet,// \\ no one knows you're a dog.
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http://www.mama-tech.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fausett, Gaeta Lund, LLP
21 School Street, 3rd Floor
Boston, MA
1.617.227.1600 (vox)
1.617.227.1608 (fax)
., 991 F.2d 511 (9th Cir. 1993) Whether browser caching will be
considered fair use has not yet been litigated.
Diane Cabell
http://www.mama-tech.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fausett, Gaeta Lund, LLP
21 School Street, 3rd Floor
Boston, MA
1.617.227.1600 (vox)
1.617.227.1608 (fax)
of the report was culled from comments to the various listservs. Further
suggestions are most welcome at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flowery compliments win
you a special MAC secret-meeting decoder ring. :-)
Diane Cabell
MAC
have the energy, access and interest
to go the distance. There are advantages and disadvantages to both.
Diane Cabell
MAC
commercial use of a confusingly similar name. And then,
each nation has its own trademark laws.
It's not going to be an easy knot to unravel.
Diane Cabell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.mama-tech.com
Fausett, Gaeta Lund, LLP
Boston, MA
http://www.fausett.com
that could be issued with new e-mail accounts and domain
registrations. It would inform the registrant about ICANN and how/where to
input on issues. You have any suggestions?
Diane Cabell
MAC
on assumptions and surmises 'for their own good.'
kerry
How ever would this be enforced?
Diane Cabell
MAC
e it might resolve problems of capture. The idea of being
obligated to vote in a campaign in which one has no interest might,
however, lead to sales of votes or indifferent voting which might be just
as unauthentic as a captured election. Interesting possibilities, though.
Requires some thought.
Di
Greg Skinner wrote:
I support the creation of a public interest, or netizens SO, if you
like.
That's what the At Large Membership is supposed to be.
Diane Cabell
MAC
will definitely get it.
Diane Cabell
MAC
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