On 3/11/04 11:22 PM, Charlie Garrison wrote:
> On 11/3/04 at 2:54 PM -0500, John Siracusa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On 3/11/04 2:39 PM, Bohdan Peter Rekshynskyj wrote:
>>> Let's discuss Perl IDE's on the Mac!
>>
>> I thought the app looked neat and wouldn't have heard of it otherwise. Too
>>
Good afternoon,
On 11/3/04 at 2:54 PM -0500, John Siracusa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 3/11/04 2:39 PM, Bohdan Peter Rekshynskyj wrote:
>> Let's discuss Perl IDE's on the Mac!
>
>I thought the app looked neat and wouldn't have heard of it otherwise. Too
>bad, like most GUI Perl debuggers, it
On Mar 11, 2004, at 6:39 PM, jtownsen wrote:
--what version of Unix Perl (Linux vs Solaris, for example) should I
use?
That's sort of an odd question - one can't expect to run Linux or
Solaris binaries on Mac OS X. The literal answer, then, would be "the
Mac OS X version." That's not a very use
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jtownsen) wrote:
> I have several Perl scripts that I run on Win XP. I'd like to port them to
> my OS X box. From what I've read on the web, I can run Unix Perl from the
> OS X console.
>
> --what version of Unix Perl (Linux vs Solaris, for ex
On Mar 11, 2004, at 18:39, jtownsen wrote:
I have several Perl scripts that I run on Win XP. I'd like to port
them to my OS X box. From what I've read on the web, I can run Unix
Perl from the OS X console.
You mean "terminal"... (sorry to be pedantic!)...
What version are you running now?
--wha
I have several Perl scripts that I run on Win XP. I'd like to port them to
my OS X box. From what I've read on the web, I can run Unix Perl from the
OS X console.
--what version of Unix Perl (Linux vs Solaris, for example) should I use?
--any pitfalls I should be aware of when moving from Win to
>So I'm going to suggest that the bests solution is that everybody
>just blame ME, call *ME* bad names, and get on with their lives.
>Like a true sociopath, I'll deny I did anything wrong, but I'll
>spray paint that message all over Columbia, MO rather than all over
>this list and its archives.
>
>
From the Google comp.lang.perl.tk group
> Steve Lidie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> On Feb 28, 2004, at 12:49 PM, Nick Ing-Simmons wrote:
>>
>>> Pause <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
The uploaded file
Tk-804.025_beta15.tar.gz
>>
>> Results for Mac OS X Panther 10.3.2, IRIX 6.5.2
On Mar 11, 2004, at 18:15, Jerry LeVan wrote:
Works fine on my stock Panther Perl...Tk-804.025_beta13
So - you downloaded this from CPAN and just used the Darwin
install then?
No kludges or anything?
BPR
Jerry
Bohdan> Any quick way to install for use? A web-site or page on this?
It inst
On 11 Mar 2004, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
> I came here for technical discussions of open-source software related
> to Perl on OSX. Not to be the target of adverts.
I came here for technical discussions related to Perl on OSX. Not
to be the target of people targeting advertisers. And, frankl
On Mar 11, 2004, at 18:06, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
"Bohdan" == Bohdan Peter Rekshynskyj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Bohdan> Now, about Perl/TK (and I hope I'm not rehashing something on
this
Bohdan> list which I may have missed some time prior) - any body
running
Bohdan> on 10.3?
Yes, working
Yes :)
Jerry
On Mar 11, 2004, at 6:09 PM, Bohdan Peter Rekshynskyj wrote:
On Mar 11, 2004, at 18:05, Jerry LeVan wrote:
Last version of Tk I tried built out of the box.
Do you mean you downloaded this from CPAN or somewhere?
Thanks!
BPR
PS - Mark - Affrus support TK extensions? Could I
> "Bohdan" == Bohdan Peter Rekshynskyj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Last version of Tk I tried built out of the box.
Bohdan> Do you mean you downloaded this from CPAN or somewhere?
Yes: perl -MCPAN -e 'install "Tk"'
--
Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 7
Works fine on my stock Panther Perl...Tk-804.025_beta13
Jerry
Bohdan> Any quick way to install for use? A web-site or page on this?
It installs according to the "INSTALL.darwin" in the distro. You
*cannot* use the Panther Perl with it. You have to build your own.
My configure line (which work
On Mar 11, 2004, at 18:05, Jerry LeVan wrote:
Last version of Tk I tried built out of the box.
Do you mean you downloaded this from CPAN or somewhere?
Thanks!
BPR
PS - Mark - Affrus support TK extensions? Could I actually step
through,
line by line, and actually see my graphic widgets ma
> "Rick" == Rick Measham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Rick> Randal: They have already declared such a post to be allowable. Where
Rick> did they do that? When Ask set up spam filters on the machine in the
Rick> TPF owned domain:
Rick> On 12 Mar 2004, at 4:40 AM, Mark Alldritt wrote:
>> X-Spam-
On Mar 11, 2004, at 17:58, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
"Bohdan" == Bohdan Peter Rekshynskyj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Bohdan> I'd love to hear about new releases!
Good, then join a "new product announcement" list, or start one
yourself. This is a *technical discussion* list, operated on a
machin
> "Wiggins" == Wiggins D Anconia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Wiggins> This makes an interesting problem, if he can't post an
Wiggins> announcement to a general discussion group *AND* he can't
Wiggins> post an announcement to 'announce' just because it is
Wiggins> commercial...
He can set up a
> "Bohdan" == Bohdan Peter Rekshynskyj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Bohdan> Now, about Perl/TK (and I hope I'm not rehashing something on this
Bohdan> list which I may have missed some time prior) - any body running
Bohdan> on 10.3?
Yes, working just fine.
Bohdan> Is it Aqualike? or X11?
X1
Last version of Tk I tried built out of the box.
Jerry
PS - any Perl/TK users out there? Do we have an FAQ for this yet?
I use TK with perl on Solaris alot, but haven't yet turned my
attention
to running this under OS X. Installation instructions/pitfalls
might be
a nice thread, if not r
Mark, thanks for this announcement. There is no other place on the net
that would have let me know about this tool. I'll go and check it out
now.
Randal said:
I will stand by my statement that the posting is wrong until one or
both of those entities have declared contrary ground rules, and
conti
> "Bohdan" == Bohdan Peter Rekshynskyj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Bohdan> I'd love to hear about new releases!
Good, then join a "new product announcement" list, or start one
yourself. This is a *technical discussion* list, operated on a
machine administrated by Ask (if I recall), on a doma
> > "Chris" == Chris Nandor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Chris> I was the one who started this mailing list. There is no admin
> Chris> of this specific list, last I checked.
>
> Chris> I fully support this posting to this list.
>
>
> Without such a stand, we enter a slippery slope. I
On Mar 11, 2004, at 17:46, Morbus Iff wrote:
>Wh! MOMMY!
Can you imagine Randall, all sweaty, popping out Pudge, all bloody?
That'd be a sight to see. I'd donate some money to TPF for a
Photoshop'd rendition of that.
Awww - let's leave poor Randall alone, chuckle!
This is too funny!
No
Chris Nandor wrote:
I fully support this posting to this list. It is a new product designed
specifically for Perl on Mac OS X. This mailing list is *the most
appropriate place on the entire Internet* for an announcement of this
software. The fact that it is commercial is irrelevant to me; as so
>> -
>> Mark Alldritt Late Night Software Ltd.
>> Phone: 250-380-1725 333 Moss Street
>> FAX: 250-383-3204 Victoria, B.C.
>> WEB: http://www.latenightsw.com/CANADA
>Wh! MOMMY!
Can you imagine Randall, all sweaty, popping out Pudge, all bloody?
That'd be a sight to see. I'd donate some money to TPF for a
Photoshop'd rendition of that.
--
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Culture: http://www.disobey.com/ and http://www.gamegrene.com/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Randal L. Schwartz) wrote:
> Anyone with admin powers able to pull this clown from the list.
> Commercial adverts. Seriously. No place for them here.
I fully support this posting to this list. It is a new product designed
specifically for Perl on Mac OS X. This mailing
Oh, please DON'T do that!
I'd love to hear about new releases!
And - already we had a good quote from somehow stating that
your product doesn't support mod_perl (hey, next release maybe?).
It'd be great to hear from people who are using the product - pro's and
cons and how to make things better.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Randal L. Schwartz) wrote:
> I will stand by my statement that the posting is wrong until one or
> both of those entities have declared contrary ground rules
So until they state a rule that has never existed doesn't exist, you'll
stand by your
On Mar 11, 2004, at 17:21, Chris Nandor wrote:
Affrus is an excellent product. I hate using the Perl debugger on the
command line, it gives me the willies. Affrus makes it much easier to
find
problems in your perl code, especially when it goes through many
modules and
files. I only wish I had
> "Chris" == Chris Nandor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Chris> I was the one who started this mailing list. There is no admin
Chris> of this specific list, last I checked.
Chris> I fully support this posting to this list.
I believe that even if you requested that this list be started, you
are
Affrus is an excellent product. I hate using the Perl debugger on the
command line, it gives me the willies. Affrus makes it much easier to find
problems in your perl code, especially when it goes through many modules and
files. I only wish I had more bugs in my code so I could use it more!
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Randal L. Schwartz) wrote:
> > "Mark" == Mark Alldritt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Mark> Late Night Software is pleased to announce the release of its newest
> Mac OS
> Mark> X scripting product: Affrus 1.0.
>
> Anyone with admin power
(not really Perl content, so I look forward to being reamed by Randal
for polluting our bandwidth, tragifying the commons, and generally
being the vanguard of a thousand dark years of oppressive alien rule)
I believe you can get mono via Fink, but I've soured on Fink after
several of those upg
On Mar 11, 2004, at 2:15 PM, Jeff Lowrey wrote:
I don't see a big difference between this announcement and Sherm
Pendley's recent announcement about a new version of CamelBones.
I think of it in terms of a user's group meeting. If a well-known
regular shows up to the meeting and announces to one
Hi All,
My apologies for causing all this trouble and wasted bandwidth.
I wasn't aware of a prohibition of on-topic commercial content. Won't
happen again.
-Mark
-
Mark Alldritt Late Night Software Ltd.
On Thursday 11 March 2004 12:09, Jason FB wrote:
> As someone who is relatively new to this list this experience has
> been very edifying. I would ask two theoretical questions:
>
> 1. How do we approach this situation with compassion for all of the
> parties involved?
>
> 2. How do we set limits
What is top-quoting?
Joe.
On Mar 11, 2004, at 1:21 PM, Morbus Iff wrote:
* no top-quoting.
On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, Jason FB wrote:
> See the SMART thing to do would have been to get a friend of his to
> recommend the product to the list -- that way it comes across as a
> recommendation and/or referral rather than a advertisement.
Psst! Viral marketing doesn't work! Tell everyone you k
On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, Andy Lester wrote:
> Received: from boggle.pobox.com (boggle.pobox.com [208.58.1.193])
> by cis.usouthal.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id i2BJTijo024764
> for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 11 Mar 2004 13:29:45 -0600 (CST)
> Received: from boggle.pobox.com (localhost
See the SMART thing to do would have been to get a friend of his to
recommend the product to the list -- that way it comes across as a
recommendation and/or referral rather than a advertisement.
As a small business owner myself, I have sympathy for how hard it is
to find free places to advertis
On 3/11/04 2:39 PM, Bohdan Peter Rekshynskyj wrote:
> Let's discuss Perl IDE's on the Mac!
I thought the app looked neat and wouldn't have heard of it otherwise. Too
bad, like most GUI Perl debuggers, it doesn't seem to support mod_perl
debugging...
-John
Okay, so this was a blatant plug, and I do see the point about not creating
spam,
but I personally was not offended by this email, because I saw it as an
appropriate tool for the goals and objectives of subscribers to this forum.
It is arguably as useful a tool for many as Camelbones is (no slight
On Mar 11, 2004, at 2:15 PM, Jeff Lowrey wrote:
I don't see a big difference between this announcement and Sherm
Pendley's recent announcement about a new version of CamelBones.
And I find the *discussion* of the "appropriateness "of the
announcement more offensive than the announcement itself.
At 01:57 PM 3/11/2004, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
> "Mark" == Mark Alldritt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Mark> Late Night Software is pleased to announce the release of its newest
Mac OS
Mark> X scripting product: Affrus 1.0.
Commercial adverts. Seriously. No place for them here.
I don't see
OK, we've now had >10x the volume of the original message squawking
about it.
Please, no "eternal vigilance or else we descend into the swamp" posts.
xoa
--
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> "Lola" == Lola Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Lola> Looking at the main page of http://www.lists.perl.org, from where the
Lola> list originates, I don't see any prohibition against commercial averts
Lola> having to do with Perl, especially when it is an application to help
Lola> create perl
>Looking at the main page of http://www.lists.perl.org, from where the
>list originates, I don't see any prohibition against commercial
>averts having to do with Perl, especially when it is an application
>to help create perl scripts. Nor does there seem to be anything else
>in the page for the li
> "Bohdan" == Bohdan Peter Rekshynskyj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Bohdan> This post was a joke, right?
Bohdan> Your "signature" looks like advertising to me, LOL!
By your "LOL", I'll presume you're a young'un, not familiar with
the ways and means of Internet Email Lists.
No commercial promo
At 10:57 am -0800 11/3/04, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
Anyone with admin powers able to pull this clown from the list.
Commercial adverts. Seriously. No place for them here.
--
Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.stonehenge.c
At 10:57 AM -0800 3/11/04, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
Anyone with admin powers able to pull this clown from the list.
Commercial adverts. Seriously. No place for them here.
Looking at the main page of http://www.lists.perl.org, from where the
list originates, I don't see any prohibition agains
On Thursday 11 March 2004 10:57, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
> Anyone with admin powers able to pull this clown from the list.
>
> Commercial adverts. Seriously. No place for them here.
Seconded. Way too much like spam. There are ways to properly plug your
product on a discussion list. This i
This post was a joke, right?
Your "signature" looks like advertising to me, LOL!
BPR
PS - I did find the post interesting and of potential use, btw,
albeit I would deplore crass commercialism.
On Mar 11, 2004, at 1:57 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
"Mark" == Mark Alldritt <[EMAIL PROT
>> "Mark" == Mark Alldritt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>Randal L. Schwartz writes:
>>Anyone with admin powers able to pull this clown from the list.
>>Commercial adverts. Seriously. No place for them here.
Seconded.
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Culture: http://www
> "Mark" == Mark Alldritt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Mark> Late Night Software is pleased to announce the release of its newest Mac OS
Mark> X scripting product: Affrus 1.0.
Anyone with admin powers able to pull this clown from the list.
Commercial adverts. Seriously. No place for them he
Hi Folks,
Late Night Software is pleased to announce the release of its newest Mac OS
X scripting product: Affrus 1.0.
Affrus 1.0 is an integrated Perl editing and debugging environment for Mac
OS X. It wraps Perl in a standard, familiar, and intuitive user interface.
Affrus is the perfect cente
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