AS stated in my previous message, I've been out of MD
for a while. I come back to find this wonerful new
technology, MDLP, which turns out to merely be lower
bit-rate sampling, much to my dismay.
Can anyone comment on the sound quality? I personally
can't tell the different between 320Kbps
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AS stated in my previous message, I've been out of MD
for a while. I come back to find this wonerful new
technology, MDLP, which turns out to merely be lower
bit-rate sampling, much to my dismay.
Can
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AS stated in my previous message, I've been out of MD
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MDLP tracks will play on a JE500 (albeit as silence), so they will also be
able to be titled by the deck, just remember you have half the time to title
them..hehe (although you wont have half the time again for lp4 tracks, they
play at
Simon Mackay wrote,
| This ability to title MDLP tracks and discs on non-MDLP decks is useful if
| you have a Sony JE500, JE510, JE520, W1 or other Sony MD deck where you
| are able to type the title into the unit using its remote control - the
| deck has the large remote control with many
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Simon Mackay wrote,
| This ability to title MDLP tracks and discs on non-MDLP decks is useful
if
| you have a Sony JE500
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Subject: MD: MDLP Titling question
Hi!
I know you can't play your LP-recorded stuff on a regular player but is it
possible to title
Fredrik asked,
| I know you can't play your LP-recorded stuff on a regular player but is it
| possible to title the songs on one?
As Stuart has already said, yes; it will play back as silence but you can
still title it. That's covered in the MDLPFAQ as well.
One thing I'd like to add about
Hi!
I know you can't play your LP-recorded stuff on a regular player but is it possible to
title the songs on one? I'm thinking of buying a MZR700 and I already own a JE500 desk
player and I'm using my Palm Pilot to title the songs on that one. So it would be
great for me if I could record
Thanks...
Then i'd have to get me a new recorder AND a new portable AND a new car MD
AND the MDS-PC3 (if it supports MDLP)
It's a bit too costly for me... :(
But thank you anyway
Greetz,
D
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Is it possible to play back MD's that were recorded in MDLP on an older,
non MDLP player ?
Thanks in advance.
Greetz,
D
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Is it possible to play back MD's that were recorded in MDLP
on an older,
non MDLP player ?
No. IIRC, the tracks will play as a silence half as long as the track that
was recorded and, unless it was turned off on the recording deck, the track
title will be prefixed with LP:. Of course,
I've made some compilation discs at LP4, for my *noisy* commute (crowded
bus, downtown traffic noises) and it's fine for that. Also probably would
work well for low-volume background music. But at home, it's obvious that
the high frequencies aren't there, and stereo isn't as stereo.
I can't
* Ken Clinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, 29 May 2001
| I've made some compilation discs at LP4, for my *noisy* commute (crowded
| bus, downtown traffic noises) and it's fine for that. Also probably would
| work well for low-volume background music. But at home, it's obvious that
| the high
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I downloaded the codec from that page and did some tests by encoding a
WAV file at various ATRAC bitrates. I find the LP2 bitrate to be quite
acceptable, and the LP4 bitrate to be unacceptable for music with a wide
stereo field, but perfectly
Has anyone on the list gone out and gotten one of the new MDLP recorders
like SONY MZ-R700? If so, I was wondering if this fantastic new disc-length
comes with a cost of lossy compression?
While the added disc length would be much appreciated, I wouldn't go for it
at a cost of sound quality.
I have a R700 but i've been too lazy to play around with the mdlp function, maybe i'll
play with it this weekend.
but thats pretty much what i've been wondering too, how much more lossy is it?
marc
On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 11:03:40AM -0400, Thomas, Ferris wrote:
Has anyone on the list
Here's a MDLP faq:
http://www.minidisc.org/mdlpfaq.html
I downloaded the codec from that page and did some tests by encoding a
WAV file at various ATRAC bitrates. I find the LP2 bitrate to be quite
acceptable, and the LP4 bitrate to be unacceptable for music with a wide
stereo field, but
cool faq, didn't see that on the sight. i think the problem w/ mindisc.org is theres
just too much info ;)
the 132(aka lp2) file seemed acceptable(only lisnted to a little of the example file
linked from the faq) I'll definatly have to give it a shot this weekend, the extra
space could goto
Hi there
Pioneer Kenwood have just released there mdlp head units.
Kenwood has one model KMD-673r which is a MD receiver with RDS and cd/md
changer control.
Pioneer has one model MEH-P7300r this also has that fancy animated blue
display.
First impressions favors the pioneer With upto date
Does anybody on this list have a release date for a MDLP car headunit in the
UK?
Thanks
Keith
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I'm looking to buy an MDLP portable with the following playback characteris-
tics; the MZ-R900, per Brian Youn's review, meets the criteria but I'm hoping
for something less expensive.
Recording is not necessary; I never record in the field and I've an MDS-JB940
at home that can lay down the
On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, David W. Tamkin wrote:
What's important is the shuffle play: I want a unit that can play one cycle
of all the tracks and then stop on its own instead of starting another cycle
if nobody stops it, and which can segue smoothly from track to track without
an interruption
Josh wrote,
| I am interested in this too (and the 900 is too pricey for me as well),
| but I am also curious as to if there are any MDLP Decks that can do this?
Sony's MDLP decks cannot; like other Sony MD decks, they stick a moment of
silence between each two tracks in shuffle mode, though
I don't know how to get my browser to send text so im using AOL web mail. My question
was, because i have a r55 and an r90, does LP2 stereo sound better or is it comparable
to standard mono? and is the r900 really better than the r90?
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My question was, because i have a r55 and an r90, does LP2 stereo sound better
or is it comparable to standard mono? and is the r900 really better than the
r90?
Here's part of a message I sent just after I got my R900 on the
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My question was, because i have a r55 and an r90, does LP2 stereo sound
better
or is it comparable to standard mono? and is the r900 really better than
the
r90?
This is totally an apples and oranges comparison. Mono vs.
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howdy, i'm thinking of picking up an mdlp portable recorder. i was
wondering what experiences y'all have had using these for live recording.
i'd do this kind of recording in sp mostly, but i'd like to have the option
of lp2 in case i need to squeeze a little more onto the disc, or for things
Haha!
I wanted to record a 30 minute programme on Radio 4 (UK) last night - but I
didn't have any fresh disks. So I found a disk with 10 minutes left on it -
which is almost an hour in LP4! Slipped it into the MZR900, job done,
programme recorded - ace.
Leon wrote:
I think
all the rest have MDLP items in their lineup.
yes, but I was specific: there are no MDLP Home Decks yet by any of them!?
And I'd like to know why? It seems strange that several months after its
promotion, MDLP is only present in the Sony Home Decks...
Hi,
does anybody have any explanation about a lack of MDLP home MD units by
other big manufacturers ( Yamaha, Pioneer, Technics etc.)? Several months
after introduction, there are no other MDLP home machine; the Sony is all
alone in the field. Is there any new MDLP units by Technics, Yamaha,
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No real demand for it, yet?
On Sun, 18 Feb
Ivica Petrovic asked,
| does anybody have any explanation about a lack of MDLP home MD units by
| other big manufacturers ( Yamaha, Pioneer, Technics etc.)? Several months
| after introduction, there are no other MDLP home machine; the Sony is all
| alone in the field. Is there any new MDLP
According to T's MDLP equipment list at
http://members.nbci.com/md_data/MDLP1.html, Kenwood, Onkyo,
and Denon have
home decks out. (Strangely, the list doesn't mention the
Sony MDS-JE440.)
Seems like only Sharp and Sony have released MDLP portables though - which
does seem strange - I'm
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In Japan, Pioneer and Panasonic haven't
Is there any MDLP Car Stereo out there? Which model is good? Where can I buy
one?
Thanks
TAKY CHEUNG
http://hottaky.com
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Has there been any mention of car units that support MDLP.
The MDLP equipment list only lists Japanese models, I suppose
we just wait until Sony US gets around to refreshing
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Mmm I have some catching up to do
this is the first time I heard of MDLP.
How does it work exactly.
different pitch smaller pits ??
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This improvement to the "Rainbow Book" MiniDisc standard is
Hi everyone!
I asked JB HiFi about whether they have Sony MDS-JE640 MD decks in store and
they told me that the moment they get these decks in store, they sell out
very quickly. They even have told me that the local Sony distributors even
have ran out of machines to supply as "general stock". I
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At 12/8/00 8:27 AM, J. Coon wrote:
yes, but
In the normal (SP) mode, you record 60, 74 and 80 minutes of stereo music. You
also have a LP mode that doubles the record capacity but the sound is monaural
not stereo.
New MD products have normal mode, mono LP mode and MDLP. MDLP consists in two
new modes: recordind durationx2 and x4 in
Bryan asked,
| Mmm I have some catching up to do this is the first time I heard of MDLP.
| How does it work exactly. different pitch smaller pits ??
No. Best answer I can give is to refer you to the MDLP FAQ at
http://www.minidisc.org/mdlpfaq.html. That explains most of it.
Jeanmougin wrote,
| In the normal (SP) mode, you record 60, 74 and 80 minutes of stereo music.
| You also have a LP mode that doubles the record capacity but the sound is
| monaural not stereo.
and
| New MD products have normal mode, mono LP mode and MDLP.
It is not a good idea to call the
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Then I
Would that be similar to http://minidisc.org/part_Sony_MDS-JE440.html
(J. Coon)
Yeah, that's the one. I didn't remember the correct model number.
Incidentally, Best Buy's sign for it fails to mention the MDLP modes. In
fact, the tag states that one can record up to *74 minutes* with it.
Maybe they should be informed of there error?
"Daryl O." wrote:
Would that be similar to http://minidisc.org/part_Sony_MDS-JE440.html
(J. Coon)
Yeah, that's the one. I didn't remember the correct model number.
Incidentally, Best Buy's sign for it fails to mention the MDLP modes.
Would that be similar to
http://minidisc.org/part_Sony_MDS-JE440.html
Not much info on the unit on the minidisc pages.
$199 for a deck. wow.. what are the features and specs for it?
On Sony's UK site:
http://194.154.177.137/products_details.asp?code=MDS-JE440nav=tech
It's quite a basic
"Daryl O." wrote:
An LP-2/4 minidisc recording deck is already available at Best Buy stores.
It's called the MDS-JE400, I believe, and it's retailing for $199
Would that be similar to
http://minidisc.org/part_Sony_MDS-JE440.html
Not much info on the unit on the minidisc pages.
$199
An LP-2/4 minidisc recording deck is already available at Best Buy stores.
It's called the MDS-JE400, I believe, and it's retailing for $199
Daryl
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Though I resisted the idea of MDLP at first, I am now beginning to
warm up to the idea. When will MDLP players and recorders be
available in America (they aren't already, are they?) -- or does
anyone know?
J. C. R. Davis ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
I'm guessing new Sony MDLP equipments will come out "on schedule", after the
same interval between any previous generations.
Sony will definitely play MDLP to their advantage, because so many others
aren't ready even in Japan. One would imagine Sharp has some form of ATRAC3
technology (since
Larry writes:
From statements made on this list, the LP4 mode's sound quality is not
suitable
for music.
Larry
See previous posting from me. As a contributor to the above opinion, I no
longer would make that statement. It should be used cautiously, but for some
music applications,
If the normal ATRAC is able to compress CD music at a ratio of 5-1 and the
new MDLP format is able to squeeze four (4) times as much audio data onto
the same disk then ATRAC isn't MDLP compressing CD music at a ratio of 20-1?
If so, this blows away mp3 ;^)
OO OO OO OO
Check out the FAQ on the MD community page. I believe it has nothing to do with
further compression (or more correctly bitwise reduction). The just lower the
bit rate.
If you go use Napster you will always see a bit rate listed for each song you
search for. The higher the number the larger
Quick question.
When are the mdlp head units from sony due out in the U.K and does anybody
no if there compatible with the old cd multichangers.
Thanks again
keith
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Quick question.
When are the mdlp head units from sony due out in the U.K and does anybody
no if there compatible with the old cd multichangers.
As they go in yearly(ish) cycles and the 6500/8500 came out a couple of
months ago, I'd say next summer at the earliest (have MDLP car units even
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An aircheck is used to describe the recording of a radio broadcast in an
uninterrupted fashion (similar to recording a TV show with a VCR). The
practice of
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I still think LP4 is pretty damned good, but the quality will depend
in large part on the type of music one is recording. It's certainly
good enough for airchecks, which was the primary reason for my
enthusiasm. If you want a long
James T. Resinger" wrote:
I think I was prematurely enthusiastic about the sound quality of LP4.
I still think it's pretty good, but I recorded some music that was a
little more subtle--and demanding--than the orchestral music I used
initially to test LP4. I recorded a song from THE BILL
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Isn't aircheck recording off radio? I keep
I can clear up *one* question regarding MDLP. I just named over 60
tracks recorded in LP4 on the JE440 by using my MDS-PC1. In fact, the
only problem I ran into is that I got a "Text Area Full" message
because there were so many tracks to name.
Jim R.
09/14/00
1100
I think I was prematurely enthusiastic about the sound quality of LP4.
I still think it's pretty good, but I recorded some music that was a
little more subtle--and demanding--than the orchestral music I used
initially to test LP4. I recorded a song from THE BILL EVANS ALBUM,
and I noticed that
Hello, I'm new to the list.
I was wondering if the new MDLP records will also be able to record in
the standard SP (74 or 80 minute) mode as well as the MDLP24 modes.
I read the MDLP FAQ and couldn't find the answer in there (Although I
apologize if it was there and I somehow missed it.)
From: "Nicholas Christ" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello, I'm new to the list.
I was wondering if the new MDLP records will also be able to record in
the standard SP (74 or 80 minute) mode as well as the MDLP24 modes.
I read the MDLP FAQ and couldn't find the answer in there (Although I
apologize if
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