I find that road dirt makes the white nylon less conspicuous in short
order. If the muffler is tied up into place, I don't think many
tailgaters will be able to see it - if you don't leave long dangling
ends. I've never had one jump off. I either use a couple of square
knots (not optimal, but effe
That's the old style hanger. There is nothing wrong with the old style
but there is always a chance that the muffler can bounce out of the
hangers. The new style has rubber inserts in the center to prevent this
from happening.
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
Original Message
From: Allan Str
This is her second new Grand Cherokee and fourth new Chrysler Product &
all have performed flawlessly.
The key sensor failed in the new one & the dealership replaced it under
warranty. The 2001 warped 2 rotors & I replaced them & the calipers
myself. I lost a water pump in the 2001 at 120,000 mile
OK Don wrote:
> It's not crazy - it's precise control, and knowing EXACTLY what he's
> doing! Did you catch the comment about his 'late' friends who thought
> it was cool to fly lower than anyone else?
>
Yeah, you don't reach Bob Hoover's age doing that kind of thing if you
don't know what you
I think you're correct - around 81 the factory was installing the pencil
plugs with fast wiring. If you have the very large metal (1/16" dia or so)
rods between GPs those are the old fashioned GP's with the old fashioned
wiring.
The fast glow system has wiring that look like those to power you
David wrote:<>
That would seem to indicate the oil is rubbing against the sides of the tube
and smearing it across the dipstick. Now that you mention it, the dipstick
on my lawnmower is extremely easy to read - and it's only about 4" long and
and made of hard yellow plastic - so it;s very eas
Tom Hargrave wrote:
> My Wife bought a 2006 4WD Grand Cherokee with a V6 last year and she loves
> it. The system is a full time 4WD & it uses the brakes to lock down any
> wheel that spins. She does need it since she works in Wisconsin. I've driven
> the jeep in the snow and the 4WD system works g
I actually don't know if I have the fast plugs. I know I asked about this a
few days ago, but still not sure (my fault).
We'll be moving away from a cold climate, and to Washington state, (you
heard me, Zeitgeist), so may not need the quick plugs?
I thought that by around '82 or '83 vehicles wer
Zoltan Finks wrote:
> I, and most given to contemplation, have analyzed what it is about certain
> words that makes them unacceptable in society. The four letter word could be
> "buck" just as easily as it could be "fuck" and if society has labeled it
> profane, it's profane. In that respect, you'r
Depending on your MB, there are Hard and Soft compound donuts - also, if
your state has a vehicle inspection they'll be unlikely to let rope (or
metal, duct tape, etc) pass.
Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts
Test Results http://members.
Y'all can tell I have a lazy day of haning around and messing with computer
and working out/eating.
Dipsticks: I think it's a real problem to add fluid down ATF tube, then try
to check it.
And the three foot long ones were always quite unpleasing - made you look
foolish as you try to catch the e
Do you have the Fast glow plugs?
If so, and they weren't original to your 240D, it's best to wait and call
Rusty - he'll know exactly what to send - I believe they work 9-5 ET.
Good luck -
Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts
Test Results
Zeitgeist wrote:
> Geoducks are quite tasty (especially in chowdah), but other NW bivalves are
> even better, such as the Razor Clam, Butter Clam and Olympia Oyster...oh,
> and the Dungeness Crab kicks crustacean butt, too!
>
Mmm. I love razor clams. I didn't think I liked seafood until I move
Zoltan Finks wrote:
> As a pump-jockey, I ran into that many times (I'm sure others have too).
> Sometimes it's downright irritating. I seem to see it with auto tranny fluid
> dipsticks more. You have to re-dip half a dozen times and sort of use the
> most common reading.
I always have that proble
You can likely get them locally for that price too. I did.
Randy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 4:13 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] rear exhaust hanger question
If they're a
The thing is that they are relatively easy to remove and disassemble, what I
usally do is to take the motor out so I can turn the mechanism by hand and
fit the new mast that way. This way it is easy to see/feel how the thing is
working.
That little steel wheel is critical to the operation of the
"Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> If they're a couple bucks each, it'd be a close call.
Double check that this is the right one, but
http://catalog.eautopartscatalog.com/buymb/022406/quote.jsp?header=http://www.buymbparts.com/header.txt&footer=http://www.buymbparts.com/footer.txt&
If they're a couple bucks each, it'd be a close call.
Brian
On 1/2/07, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
"Zoltan Finks" writes:
> OK, my moth-pocket self perked up upon mention of your nylon rope
> success.
You can get new hangers from Rusty for a couple of bucks each. Is it
really w
"Zoltan Finks" writes:
> OK, my moth-pocket self perked up upon mention of your nylon rope
> success.
You can get new hangers from Rusty for a couple of bucks each. Is it
really worth messing around with something else?
Allan
--
1983 300D
1966 230
Looks like it's closing time in Georgia (they're Eastern time over at
Rusty's operation I guess). Was trying to call them and ask which glow plug
to order. My engine number does not match any of the provided numbers on
their glow plug page.
I guess my engine came out of an '82 240D. Maybe I'll ty
OK, my moth-pocket self perked up upon mention of your nylon rope success.
Do tell: Are you able to find black rope so that the rear-most ones won't
look lousy to the more discriminating tailgater? And do you not find that
the hangers occasionally play jump rope? What kind of knot do you tie to
m
Don't mess about with anything other than the designated donuts for your
Benz.. They're the right size and rubber composition for your system.
Generic donuts or road-side salvages will have your muffler swinging
about worse than a hot day's scrotum [pardon my turn-of-phrase].
Euan
CHCH
NZ
---
I've tired of constantly replacing the rubber donuts, and am now using
nylon cord/rope - 1/4 inch or so - two wraps around the hangers, and
tie it off. the Nylon has some give, hasn't melted under heat in the
last six years, doesn't get hard and brittle near as fast, and I've
never had to replace
And yet Hank Hill had to give Marshall, and another listmember who caught a
mistake in the footer URL's, flippant and borderline nasty replies. He's
either working too hard or off his meds.
Chris K
Cayce, SC
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To:
Sent: Tue
Unfortunately, some of the other parts of the car get ruined in the process,
but a battery powered sawzall with
some metal cutting blades can usually get a part released so that you can work
on it at home. The yards around here
will not let you in with any sort of torch. I assume they are concern
On 1/2/07, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
"Werner Fehlauer" writes:
> Besides exhaust hangers that stretch and break, brake hoses have
> been known to swell and actually close up so that fluid can't get
> through to do what needs to be done!
Or, the fluid WILL go through under pressur
Indeed, maybe a spark introduced into the whole mix can be the cause in the
case of bursting or exploding upon start attempt.
Brian
On 1/2/07, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Levi Smith wrote:
> I would have thought it more likely to be a spark in the vicinity during
one
> of those
LarryT wrote:
> Excess gas in the oil is a common problem and IMO is caused by short trips
> which do not allow the oil to get hot enough to burn off the excess fuel -
> which is probably caused by poorly tuned carburetors or FI/
>
Stuck chokes will also do this, bad carb floats, bad fuel pum
Zeitgeist wrote:
> Almost always requires a reservation down here in Olympia. Probably one of
> the premier eateries in town, which mostly speaks to the a sad dearth of
> dining options.
>
I usually go to the Point Defiance one. I usually have to wait 30-45
minutes if I don't have a reservati
Levi Smith wrote:
> I would have thought it more likely to be a spark in the vicinity during one
> of those charging times that caused the explosion? I wasn't aware that
> under "normal" circumstances you could blow up a battery simply by charging
> it... Or maybe it was possible with older batte
I found a right fender in good shape at a Pick and Pull. The problem
was getting the thing off of the vehicle. They use some sort of putty
on the seam that was impossible to get off. The manual talks about
using heat to soften it and I had a small butane "blow torch" thing but
that didn't h
"Werner Fehlauer" writes:
> Besides exhaust hangers that stretch and break, brake hoses have
> been known to swell and actually close up so that fluid can't get
> through to do what needs to be done!
Or, the fluid WILL go through under pressure, but then when you
release the brake it will not flo
I would have thought it more likely to be a spark in the vicinity during one
of those charging times that caused the explosion? I wasn't aware that
under "normal" circumstances you could blow up a battery simply by charging
it... Or maybe it was possible with older batteries?
Levi
On 1/2/07, Z
Ha. No, hopefully I'd have learned by now if I had.
I've seen, or at least heard, two or three batterties explode when I worked
at at service station. I think the cause was leaving them on a somewhat
rapid charge for too long with the caps still on. And I think once I saw one
explode from crankin
Folks, its pretty well established that if you want all those parts of your
car that relies on the flexibility of rubber (bushings, exhaust hangers,
brake hoses, etc), that after about ten years, you should consider replacing
them - at least the ones that are hard, cracked, swelled, or just out
Zoltan Finks wrote:
> Looks nicer than ours which has half the miles.
>
> I wonder, though, if the speedometer is reading 15 mph low, is that odometer
> reading low too? They work in conjunction, right?
>
They do, but the speedometer can have a calibration error even if the
odometer reads corre
Have you had a lot of batteries explode?
Levi (:
Still wondering if there's any hope for his Red top Optima that seems to
just continually draw as much power as you put in it (sucked 5 amps for
about 3 days straight before I disconnected it).
On 1/2/07, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Yeah, mine went away recently too. Desert living has most things dried out
on that vehicle. I figured the fat rubber hangers were cheap and I must
remember to order them when I put in my glow plug order.
Meantime, I have two white zip ties on each hanger. That's class!
Brian
83 240D
On 1/2/07,
That's interesting about the battery. Did it not sound differently - I mean,
the starter didn't audibly sound slower? Maybe it was the "frog in the
kettle" syndrome.
Encouraging that starts are possible in those temps without a block heater.
My 240D seems to need glow plugs right now - wouldn't s
I am amazed that there have been no comments in regard to the use of the MBZ
name by the another list - until
Marshall asked them not to and they switched to M-B.
Randy
Allan Streib wrote:
> No, I did not unplug the connector. Will recheck as soon as I get
> back to the house.
BTW, I had a forehead-slapper this morning when somebody mentioned
batteries. When my 300SD wouldn't light the glow lamp, I bought
a couple of new glow plugs, put in a new battery, and f
"Peter Frederick" writes:
> Bad monovalve, the boot is swollen and it won't allow water to flow
> correclty.
>
> Easy fix.
"Easy fix" meaning replace the monovalve, or ... ? It's not in
Rusty's online catalog, are they readily available?
Allan
--
1983 300D
1966 230
Until the battery went bad my 240D would start really well down to about 20F.
Below that it was alot of cranking but I could get it to start all the way down
to about -5F without the block heater.
Once the battery went bad starts colder than say 25F were a challenge. I dunno
why I had blinders
Go ahead & replace all 4 with new. Also, the newer design is better,
with a
rubber piece in the center that limits upward travel.
Upward travel is normally limited by a rubber bumper on the chassis
above the muffler, there should be a boss or something on the muffler
that bumps into it. The im
Jim typed:
"aquaria"
That made my day, thus far.
Bob R.
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From: "Jim Cathey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 12:15 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Unimog down
A friend called, and said that he'd scored a used 6kW UPS from w
Go ahead & replace all 4 with new. Also, the newer design is better, with a
rubber piece in the center that limits upward travel.
Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924
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Sent: Tuesday
http://www.tmcpubl.com/
I bot two PAPER manuals from them, GOOD Pictures, NOT CHEAP!
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Klatta Nut
With headlights on, activate windshield washer
Sunil Hari wrote:
I'm pretty sure that the gassers got the headlight wipers standard, but the
diesels had them as an option that no one paid for.
My 92 300D doesn't have them either, and it was bought in Cincinnati.
Question: if you have them, h
The headlight wipers was an option actually. I have seen quite a few
without them. In fact, more without than with.
Werner Fehlauer wrote:
Looks like a decent car, although the description is slightly in error -
these cars typically came with MBTex, not leather and the window sticker
confir
I think you can do it. Most people would find it not worthwhile to put a
kit in. I don't remember the entire sequence, but on a vickers pump you
unscrew each of the 4 pumps for the suspension using a pin wrench
(spanner), then the rest comes apart with circlips. Rusty will need all
the numbe
There should be 4 rubber donuts. they can be put on by hand. You can get
replacements at flaps (don't know how good those are.) Or its one item i'd
consider buying from a dealer cause they'd have em and you should be able
to walk out with 2 or 3 for $20. Or, you can order them from Rusty and
Thanks!
I might order the kit and see what happens.
Trampas
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On Behalf Of Loren Faeth
Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 9:23 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 560SEL suspension pump
The tandem pump ha
Yes there are, I think, 2 rubber rings holding the muffler up. Big fat
O-rings. Should be aesy to get at any dealer or Rusty.
On 1/2/07, kevin kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The 300SD has been getting some use since it's so much easier than
maneuvering a full size Dodge pickup around town. I
Hendrik - Thanks for the note. The antenna went down to the last section
[leaving about 8" out of the car] until the car wash jockey pounded on it.
It still goes down just that far, but now will not go all the way up [it
leaves at least one section not extended]. I do think there is an internal
p
Allan Streib wrote:
>
> I measured resistance on all the glow plugs and they are all reading
> 0.3 ohms on my little Radio Shack digital multimeter. The fusible
> link is intact (but is of unknown age).
Did you isolate them electrically, either by unplugging the multipin
connector at the relay
On Jan 1, 2007, at 11:15 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:
A friend called, and said that he'd scored a used 6kW UPS from work,
and that he'd trade me the 3kW he'd already gotten from there in
Oddly enough I did spy in craig's list
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Date: 2006-12-29, 6:04PM PST
Used APC Matrix 5000 UPS w
The 300SD has been getting some use since it's so much easier than
maneuvering a full size Dodge pickup around town. I've noticed a rattle
when going over bumps which I had thought was something in the suspension
until I was riding in the back seat. It turns out that it's the rear
portion of
marshall,
this is confusing; you specifically said that MTL wasn't to be used
in the manual boxes, but here say you've tried MTL (but didn't specify
which box you're talking about trying it in).
please clarify; (although it may be against the creed of some here
who seem to think we are
In a message dated 1/1/2007 10:57:30 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Way back in the day there was a source for chassis manuals... I've
been off the list for a while and was wondering if there is still a
source out there?
Thanks!!!
John
John,
If you are t
A friend called, and said that he'd scored a used 6kW UPS from work,
and that he'd trade me the 3kW he'd already gotten from there in
exchange for my help with the crane to bring home the new units.
(Think small file cabinets, one filled with car batteries.) No
problem, says I, if I can get it go
I measured resistance on all the glow plugs and they are all reading
0.3 ohms on my little Radio Shack digital multimeter.
You did remove the plug from the GP relay before checking
the five GP resistances? If you don't they're all in parallel
and a bad one won't show up. Such low resistance is
Loren said: "..Many have heard of Yeager ...". Guess who was flying
the chase plane for Yeager when he broke the sound barrier. I live in
Torrance CA and I understand Mr Hoover flies out of our airport here.
I've spoken to several folks at the field and everyone has nothing but
high praise for
Tom Hargrave wrote:
As far as the 220S is concerned, I've owned it for about 6 years & I've done
the following:
I've seen the car when Tom's helped me out on my MBs... and I'd like
to vouch for the described condition of the car. I think its a pretty
neat car, and was amazed at how smooth
Way back in the day there was a source for chassis manuals... I've
been off the list for a while and was wondering if there is still a
source out there?
Thanks!!!
John
Bad monovalve, the boot is swollen and it won't allow water to flow
correclty.
Easy fix.
Peter
Separate problem, separate thread...
I'm also having intermittent heat in the 300D. Usually the heat will
come on normally once the engine warms after a cold start. What
usually happens next is after the cabin has warmed to the set
temperature, the air from the vents will become very cool, thoug
Happy New Year all.
Did my brake replacement over the weekend. 4 new calipers and all new
hoses, and new rotors on the front. Braking is MUCH improved -- so
smooth, no grabbing, vibrating, etc. Pedal which had been very firm
now feels "normal".
Another problem has emerged, however, and that is
My old 84 300SD (~200K at crunching) was regularly started at 24 without
plugging in and at 14 once or twice.
The 1985 300D use to have issues, but I found that I had a subtly failed
GP relay (it lit the light but did not really work). Apparently water had
wicked up under the cover, then past
On Sun, 31 Dec 2006, OK Don wrote:
> Sorry to sound like a broken record - but the engine of choice would
> be the 603.96x !
I'd think a 606.96x with mechanical control would be zippy :)
And thats without the finnish treatment :)
-j.
Tarek,
Please keep our discussions on the Mercedes Discussion List unless we get
serious about a trade. I'd rather only answer questions about my 220S once.
As far as a trade goes - all depends on what you are interested in trading.
I would not mind a 123 body 240D with a 4 speed & working AC. A
My 91 doesn;t have the headlight washers either - I read somewhere (maybe
on the CarFax?) - they were optional on diesels - standard on the more
expensive models -
My understanding- headlight wipers were standard on the 300e, didn't
come on the 2.6 liter models like mine. That's fine, makes l
<>
Why would you say that? Hoover's history in aviation is enviable and the
skill and judgement it takes to perform those maneuvers in a non-aerobatic twin
is
considerable. And the story of the F-86 demo in Korea is very impressive.
I have seen the Shrike demonstration several times in the pas
Its with the other fuzes, if yours is the same as mine it will be number 10. If
you are unsure of the location of the fuze box its on the drivers side of the
dashboard behind the plastic panel. Open the car door, look on the side of the
dash and remove the cover. There should be a card inside th
Not sure where I sourced the clocks. Came PnP, but model escapes me.
I gave it much more thought and finally remembered that the 12v tab was
what did not fit in the proper place. Could be that I was not spinning
the dial fast enough to get it to screw in all the way. I was in the
middle of
On my '87 SDL, they turn on when the headlights are on, and you
activate the windshield washer. - They only turn on when they might be
needed - no special switch - totally transparent operation - good MB
engineering!
Question: if you have them, how do you turn them on? I test drove one and
loo
It's not crazy - it's precise control, and knowing EXACTLY what he's
doing! Did you catch the comment about his 'late' friends who thought
it was cool to fly lower than anyone else?
On 1/1/07, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
No he is NOT crazy! He knows exactly what he is doing. Bob Hoo
Check for vac leaks, too!
Peter
I would only disassemble the box if a new mast didn't fix the problem
-- most likely, his is bent.
Of the 3 1980s cars we have, only one has had a problem with the
antenna motor, and that was a broken gear, fixed by getting a junkyard
motor. They don't leak, so far as I can tell, mine was dry
Larry,
I have wondered about that-as I posted a bit ago. My 90 doesn't have the
headlight washers but John Peterson's 91-identical car-has the headlight
washers. I wondered if it was model year change-seems not. And yes MB tex.
Dwight
Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1979 240D-250K + miles
1990 300D 2.5t 13
Werner,
You're correct on the mpg -I get about 31-32 on my 90 300D 2.5t. Mine does
not have the headlight washers-but most I see around seem to.
Dwight
Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1979 240D-250K + miles
1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles
Wickford, RI. More typical is 30-32, so with these small
inconsistencie
No he is NOT crazy! He knows exactly what he is doing. Bob Hoover is the
worlds most legendary test pilot. Many have heard of Yeager, but his
career is relatively short compared to Bob. Bob may not be as well known
outside aviation circles, but he is Da MAN.
At 07:43 PM 1/1/2007, you wrote:
any chance you connected a scanner to it to pull the codes? Our 1995 E320
wagon had a similar problem and the code it was throwing was for the EGR
valve. However there was a recall on the EGR tube that was too small from
the factory, would plug up, throw error codes and in the final stages shut
the
The tandem pump has a kit available from Rusty for about $75-80. It is a
BEAR to replace the shaft seal. It is supposed to take some combination of
special tools. Potomac German Will sell you a good pump for $125 at last
report (March 06). You are money ahead to replace the pump. One lister
I just put a new EGR valve and a new Idle Control Valve in my 1990 300SE - but
I still have the same problem they were meant to correct. It starts fine when
cold - runs fine at low to high speeds. But after the engine warms up and I
bring it to a stop - say at an intersection - the engine shuts
Jim, I am shocked! I guess I found one patchup that I may have done more
than you!
Snappy has double flare tools in both Metric and SAE. There ARE minor
differences in the tubing sizes. I have replaced rusted sections of MB
brake line with US stuff, using the metric nuts salvaged off the o
My 91 doesn;t have the headlight washers either - I read somewhere (maybe
on the CarFax?) - they were optional on diesels - standard on the more
expensive models -
Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts
Test Results http://members.rennlist.c
Does anyone know where the OBD 2 fuse is on a 2002 Passat? Thanks
I'm pretty sure that the gassers got the headlight wipers standard, but the
diesels had them as an option that no one paid for.
My 92 300D doesn't have them either, and it was bought in Cincinnati.
Question: if you have them, how do you turn them on? I test drove one and
looked like an idiot w
That is one crazy Mo'!
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OK, you can do the slack thing or you can choose to do this properly. It is
recommended to remove the whole antenna assembly and pull it apart. Water
and dirt gets into the workings. Also there is a little wheel in there that
turns against the plastic winding thingy. What happens is that it stop
Pulls from whatever the PnP had that carried the sort of clock. There
have been some 116, a few slc, a bunch of 114/115. Not remembering
which offered what clock, since I tried and failed, so moved on.
I can't imagine that a 116 or 107 uses the right sort of clock at all.
I think only the 76 1
Hi Zeb,
The 240D in the W123 chassis (like mine) was available in the US from 77
until 1983 --it was not available in '84 when it was replaced by the 190
series (W201 chassis).
As far as finding a rust free example - it;s pretty much like any other 30+
year old car - Location will probabl
Don - You're probably correct, although I often get comments like "where are
the washer/wipers?" - and every one of the '90-'93 124s around here do have
the wipers. I just assumed that this may have been a special order by
MBUSA. The car had never been titled, so it appears as if I'm the origi
FWIW - my '90 doesn't have headlight washers either. I think it's a
normal channel car.
Oh, also unusual is
the lack of headlight washers, which so far I've only seen one '90 (mine)
that did not have them, but mine was a "zone car" so not in the normal
pipeline of imports by MBUSA.
--
OK Don,
Thanks guys - That has been bugging me for awhile. I'll pick up a mast from
Rusty and follow the directions.
Your wisdom is much appreciated.
BillR
Jacksonville FL
1981 300SD 285 k miles
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Sent:
Cheez whiz it sure is, I drive through Littleton most every day.
I'd offer to go look at it but I'm in NYC tomorrow afternoon through Friday.
If somebody wanted to see it and could setup and appointment for Friday I could
probably swing it.
Now if it was a 116...
-Curt
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 1
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