long, maybe, but interesting,... and i *did* ask because i figured there
must be a reason and i was genuinely curious, so it serves me right!
;-)(sorry if anyone else was bored...)
i hope situations improve so you can get back to a more pleasant
arrangement; whether that means the env
Tom Hargrave wrote:
And Mobile 1 won't help a bit if the issue is gasoline wash down. The issue
is not lack of oil pressure at start up. The issue is oil that's coating the
cylinder walls being diluted with fuel condensate because the cylinder walls
are cold at start up. No-one's oil (synthetic o
Thanks for the reminder, thats the other thing I'll order Monday...
I did them on my '81 300TD and it was pretty easy. A 1/4" socket set with a
u-joint socket is the way to go. If you have magnetic sockets all the better as
you won't drop the nut on the end. It'd be a good idea to have a magnet
1) errands. I have 5 kids. I often get a request for "please pick x, y, z" up
on the way home. It seems that I am always having to go somewhere.
I live and work in a sort of bad neighborhood. In the summer, it's too hot.
Cold I don't mind, but it's dark. I carry pepper spray/cs gas mix an
Well it looks as though it may be no big deal. I reseated the cap this morning
and tonight when I got home I got the "woof" inrush of air that I didn't get
this morning opening the cap.
To be safe I'll buy another seal for the cap from Rusty on Monday. I might as
well get the replacement vacuum
Christopher McCann wrote:
http://www.svmgcc.org/tech_tips/oil_is_killing.htm
Nothing new here. The "nits" have been arguing about this for years. The
people that seriously lubricate car and truck engines settled this and
make fine oils. Mercedes warned against choosing oil based on API
ra
Driving with the headlights on reduces the charge to your battery &
increases your charge time because the headlights pull away current that
could be dumping into the battery.
Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924
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You could really act superior and call them Alsatians.
Brian
Christopher wrote:
GSD = German Shepherd Dog. My two dogs. The German Shepherd is one of the
few dogs that have the word "dog" in their official name, so they are
"GSD"s for short.
Chris
Christopher McCann wrote:
I am told by everyone that driving with your lights on (or some other
accessory) helps to recharge the battery faster after starting by putting a
load on...the alternator? the battery? something. I don't get electricity.
BUT, I THINK, I recall Marshall (sorry i
Curt Raymond wrote:
Driving home last night I stopped at Home Depot and noticed the rear passenger
side of the car behind the rear wheel was wet with fuel.
I thought that was odd but though it made the hard starting I've had recently
make sense. The car doesn't actually start hard but it needs
jeeze, with a 6 block commute, why are you even *driving* at all?
wouldn't a bicycle work better? ;-)
seriously; do you have too much stuff you need to take with you that
you need to drive? (surely, it can't be the weather; i've comfortably
walked farther than that in Alberta when it was
My dad called me a little while ago and told me he wanted me to have his
car, a 300D with very few miles. Mom's meenievayan is a bit easier for
him to negotiate. Said something about an ambulance chaser trying to
hustle him for it, figured it time to just give it to me. Since he is
getting
I hate you
Bob R
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From: "Donald Snook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 9:17 AM
Subject: [MBZ] WOW!
I was at the bank last week and I saw an elderly gentleman get out of a
VERY nice 123 300D. I was right behind him in line and we
Allan Streib wrote:
> Wrenches. If you have deep sockets and flex adapters that will help,
> stubby combination wrenches are also useful. Getting at the plugs can
> be a little tight unless you have really small hands.
>
I haven't done a Mercedes, but on VW diesels I find those ratcheting
box
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> That's better than watching the obituaries.
>
For getting big old heaps, gently driven, with low mileage, it's hard to
beat making friends with someone who works at a nursing home.
Christopher McCann wrote:
> and this could vary from one voltage regulator to another, depending on how
> it is designed to work, correct?
>
Yes. In old cars they were all pretty much the same, but in some modern
cars the engine computer actually controls the alternator field
windings, and wi
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only real pitfall I remember was accessing the plugs - I got a 12mm
ratcheting wrench and all issues there went away. Couldn't manage to get a
deep socket on the rearmost GP in my 84 300D.
When you remove the small nut attaching the wire to the plug, it helps to
have something under it to catch
And Mobile 1 won't help a bit if the issue is gasoline wash down. The issue
is not lack of oil pressure at start up. The issue is oil that's coating the
cylinder walls being diluted with fuel condensate because the cylinder walls
are cold at start up. No-one's oil (synthetic or otherwise) protects
"andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I decided to splurge and replace all my glow plugs for my 1983 W123
> 300TD wagon.
I just did mine a few weeks ago.
> 1) Does it matter what brand I purchase? Cost seems to range
>between @ $8 - $12.
Bosch or Beru are recommended. I've hea
> < cars. Almost all automobile engine wear is cold start wear.>.
>
I have a Porsche 911 factory shop manual from 1968 that states that startup
wear is equivalent to 200 miles at full throttle. Keeping in mind that all
their engines were air-cooled in those days and top speeds were in the range
Jim C wrote:<>
Howdy!
Actually, that kind of 'meet n greet" probably works just about
anywhere. I had stopped at a fast food place just off I95 back in 87 and
was in some car or other - probably a Malibu - and as I like to do I checked
the oil. A guy in a W126 parked near by and we starte
Can the shaft be removed as one piece? Is this considered a three piece
drive shaft?
Thanks
Harry
I would recommend Bosch versus Beru. I see that Autohaus AZ has them for
$8.69 which is $1.21 below my cost. I think I'll call them and see how many
they will sell me!
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Sent: Friday, February
I decided to splurge and replace all my glow plugs for my 1983 W123 300TD
wagon. The car starts poorly and stalls for the first 2-3 minutes; also, I
haven't replaced them in 150 k miles.
1) Does it matter what brand I purchase? Cost seems to range between @ $8 -
$12.
2) What tools will I need?
"Looks like Moose Day is underway."
Dwight Giles
The Groundhog will be jealous of the Moose trying to steal its day.
BillR
yes because it (300SD) is plugged in and it gets up to temp pretty quick. The
300D, not really, but close.
I hate driving these cars for such short distances - wear & tear, but not
much I can do about that. Kansas City has more miles of highway per capita
than any other US city, I'm told
Yea. Maybe I should just hang out at the bank looking for old guys in
nice benzes.
I go to the bank. In the Frankenheap. Prolly not quite old
enough, either!
-- Jim
Dave Wakin wrote:
"In the local paper today is a one-owner 1984 300D with 23,000
miles,Charcoal
grey color with the grey/black interior for $1,200.00
Just called the guy and bought it over the phone, picking it up tonight.
Apparently he is moving to Florida and taking his minivan. Guy
Yea. Maybe I should just hang out at the bank looking for old guys in
nice benzes.
Donald H. Snook
McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn & Herrington, P.A.
300 West Douglas
P.O. Box 207
Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207
Tel. (316) 263-5851
This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client
privi
Looks like Moose Day is underway.
Dwight Giles
Dave Wakin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In the local paper today is a one-owner 1984 300D with 23,000 miles,Charcoal
> grey color with the grey/black interior for $1,200.00
>
> Just called the guy and bought it over the phone, picking it up ton
Hey Dave,
Was that your new car I saw down at the credit union.
That thing is absolutely beautiful. I am jealous.
Please drop over sometime and take me for a ride.
Thanks
Richard
--- Dave Wakin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In the local paper today is a one-owner 1984 300D with 23,000
> mil
That's better than watching the obituaries.
Dwight Giles
Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was at the bank last week and I saw an elderly gentleman get out of a
> VERY nice 123 300D. I was right behind him in line and we had a few
> minutes to talk because the line was moving VERY
In the local paper today is a one-owner 1984 300D with 23,000 miles,Charcoal
grey color with the grey/black interior for $1,200.00
Just called the guy and bought it over the phone, picking it up tonight.
Apparently he is moving to Florida and taking his minivan. Guy kept calling
me Don and kep
Reminds me of the Garrison Keiller (spelling?) routine or comment or whatever
you want to call it about people
being so proud that they had never gone anywhere. I'm not sure but I think it
was in one of the Lake Wobygon
(spelling again?) books where he talks about some fellow who was so proud of
GO FOR IT! You'll never see another like it.
On 2/2/07, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I was at the bank last week and I saw an elderly gentleman get out of a
VERY nice 123 300D. I was right behind him in line and we had a few
minutes to talk because the line was moving VERY slow. I
I was at the bank last week and I saw an elderly gentleman get out of a
VERY nice 123 300D. I was right behind him in line and we had a few
minutes to talk because the line was moving VERY slow. I asked him
about his car and he seemed very pleased that someone asked about it.
We continued our dis
http://www.svmgcc.org/tech_tips/oil_is_killing.htm
I can believe it! The 'mass market' is not much interested in
cars even five years old.
I use Delo in everything, and have for years.
-- Jim
with a 6 block commute - and no other driving - I will wear a battery down -
faster or slower - depending on temp. But fluctuating temp really throws a big
variable into that test.
CM
Levi Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, I guess the real answer is this.
How many times do you not
Chris - that sounds like a stretch from abstract theory to the real world.
An alternator can only put out a limited number of Amperes, and if the
lights are on, they will consume some of that current. I suspect that if
the battery was fully charged so that the terminal Voltage was high, thereby
http://www.svmgcc.org/tech_tips/oil_is_killing.htm
Thanks!
Chris
Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri
-2006 GSD, "Anke" (Yanke von der burg Austerlitz)
-2006 GSD, "Heinrich" (Zane von der burg Austerlitz)
-1985 300SD, 219K miles, "Wulf"
-1982 300Dt, 117K miles,
a fuel leak would fit the bill, air gets into the line while the
engine is shut off right?
The leak is DEFINATELY from the area of the fuel cap...
Just 'cause you have a cap leak does _not_ mean you don't also
have another leak somewhere else!
-- Jim
I am DEFINITELY not misinterpreting what this guy (who, otherwise knows quite
a bit about cars, raced cars, built race cars, does all his repairs, etc).
We've had this argument SEVERAL times.
If you turn the headlights on with the engine running, all you're going
to do is make the altern
I am told by everyone that driving with your lights on (or some other
accessory) helps to recharge the battery faster after starting by putting a
load on...the alternator? the battery? something. I don't get electricity.
BUT, I THINK, I recall Marshall (sorry if I am mis-recalling) arguin
Check your propeller shaft intermediate bearing, rubber around bearing wears
and can make funny noise when coasting. Just changed mine out/Tom
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To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 8:07 PM
Subject:
He didn't recover...his career is zehr uber.
Bob R
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From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Speaking of safety...
When he recovers, the owner will take up a new care
It was some guy saying how crooked and awful World Motors here in PHX was.
It was kind of funnya typical poorly worded rant from someone who
thought they got rooked.
It looks like either World Motors or CL got it removed.
Bob R
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From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMA
I don't seem to be... Yahoo made a change about 3 months ago that screws up
line breaks when I type (as in there aren't any) but thats pretty minor.
-Curt
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 19:42:57 -0600
From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 Mercedes- Benz - $2000 (Wellesle
Driving home last night I stopped at Home Depot and noticed the rear passenger
side of the car behind the rear wheel was wet with fuel.
I thought that was odd but though it made the hard starting I've had recently
make sense. The car doesn't actually start hard but it needs some throttle
input f
Next time I'm out your way I'll stop by for a ride...
-Curt
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 16:07:37 -0500
From: "Mike Canfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a Truck? OT Here is a real truck.
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
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The two limits are probably for optimum fuel consumption. The cam in a
stationary engine has a favorable RPM range.
Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924
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On Behalf Of Peter Merle
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2
Don,
That would be the M43...The same basic truck with a bit more wheelbase
and an enclosed body...Like you saidSlow as snails. Don't sink one
in a mudhole.It will be better left there for a bridge piling as a D9
will have a rough time dragging it out...LOL
Mike
- Origin
eh, to hell with it - too much work. I'm putting in 60-80 hours a week at
the hospital, and I don't have time for another car.
On 2/2/07, Mike Canfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Here's a tip on that line.Use 5 gallon buckets with lids from Wally
World for 4 bucks..Many greasy nasty thi
Here's a tip on that line.Use 5 gallon buckets with lids from Wally
World for 4 bucks..Many greasy nasty things fit well in them and the
customer gets a free bolt bucket.Beats trying to get a steering gear
or a diff. to stay in cardboard.
Mike
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From
Can one look up part prices and availability and superceeded parts with
the EPC NET online? Has only subscribed to the service?
EPC Net for those who don't know is a Java application that runs on your
PC when connected to DC's parts computer which assists you in looking up
Mercedes part numbers. Se
I wonder how one would define "overstressing". Its interesting that in
the OM617 engine power and fuel consumption curve ( document designed
for the installation of stationary Om617's ) it states words to the
effect that one should not exceed 3600 and go below 1500 rpm for
continiously.
Peter
--
On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 19:28:16 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> so what did it say, its taken down now
Something along the lines of, "So-and-so's business did me wrong -- don't
patronize them, they're creeps."
Craig
On 2/1/07, Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
right, but i just don't have the time to mess with diagnosis and replacement
of a transmission in a $500 car that I don't need. But given the low
interest in parts from this car (e.g. seats, wood trim, engine, turbo, etc)
I'm probably goign to pas
Aren't you still in Med school? It will take much more time to part it
out than to fix it.
On 2/1/07, Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
right, but i just don't have the time to mess with diagnosis and replacement
of a transmission in a $500 car that I don't need. But given the low
interest
That looks a LOT like the Dodge WWII field ambulance we had in our
Civil Air Patrol Squadron when I was in HS. Not fast, would would go
anywhere.
On 2/1/07, Mike Canfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Here are a couple pics of my daily driven 68 Dodge M37 with it's whopping
78HP flathead 6. ;>
That's about the funniest subject line I've seen in a long time. Thanks for
the laugh.
Paul
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Chris Kueny
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 7:07 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] Noise from the
I'll tell ya whatI'll do $550 and you talk Kaleb into buying us both
lunch for saving him the trouble...
Mike
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From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] selling
Marshall,
I mentioned this fact, in detail, in an earlier email.
An engine only wears substantially faster at heavy load if the load is over
stressing the engine.
Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924
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On B
Then there is the little details, such as, where to get a constant
supply of boxes. Sometimes its hard rounding up that perfect box to
ship that item.
Mike Canfield wrote:
Agreed Kaleb!! People think parting out a car is so freakin
easy...Just pull a few parts and throw them on E-bay
Aw come on, youse guys - give the guy a break! Its worth at least 625! (and
I'll throw in a Philly Cheese Steak if he delivers!)
Werner
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From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 8:51 PM
Subject
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Why is that? What all is different between the early and later ones?
Marshall Booth wrote:
A 2.5 engine can't be tucked into an '84-'85 2.2 chassis without a lot
of welding and sheet metal work.
The OM602 2.5 diesel and the M103 2.6 gasoline engines are longer than
Agreed Kaleb!! People think parting out a car is so freakin
easy...Just pull a few parts and throw them on E-bay.If
you've never done it get ready for a surprize when parting a car turns into
a 40 hour a week job for a month. Just providing shipping quotes to non
buyers can be
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Marshall Booth wrote:
Zoltan Finks wrote:
I read that article on million-mile cars and one of the interviewees
mentioned that he likes to keep his speed down on the freeway. He had read
something about freight train research t
Zoltan Finks wrote:
I read that article on million-mile cars and one of the interviewees
mentioned that he likes to keep his speed down on the freeway. He had read
something about freight train research that revealed something like 80% of
engine wear ocurred in the top 20% of the engine's RPM
OK, I will do 526 but that does not include lunch, only a soda when you
arrive.
Mike Canfield wrote:
I'll beat that with $510 even and lunch when you drive it here..LOL
Mike
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From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: T
Chris Kueny wrote:
My 1985 300TD has a noise coming from the rear, which I had my indy 'fix' last
year. It has the following traits: It is clearly in time with speed, and
sounds like hammering. It is most pronounced on hard acceleration, goes almost
away while coasting, and if I decelerate,
There is a lot more work than you might think in parting out a car
properly. Then there is the storage of the parts, identifying what all
cars a certain part will fit, collecting payment, packing and shipping
the part etc.
Sunil Hari wrote:
right, but i just don't have the time to mess with
well yea, of course its worth more in parts. Think is, parting out a
perfectly good otherwise car reduces the number of cars in circulation.
Pretty soon there wont be too many and they will get expensive. But,
thats just me.
Sunil Hari wrote:
because i have no desire to drive another autom
any other yoohoo people getting this?
Marshall Booth wrote:
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Chris - not sure how much different that car is from my '90 124 2.5, but I
had a loud noise, intermittently, that became more frequent over several
months. All due to a worn CV joint. The noise seems to be slow but
proportional to wheel rotation; it would be about 3 times faster if it was
rela
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Chris Kueny wrote:
My 1985 300TD has a noise coming from the rear, which I had my indy 'fix' last
year. It has the following traits: It is clearly in time with speed, and
sounds like hammering. It is most pronounced on hard acceleration, goes almost
away while coasting, and if I decelerate,
no and no
Peter Merle wrote:
Are the 4 speed gearboxes of the W123 and W124 series the same ? Furthur
can One use a W124 230E gearbox in a W123 300D?
Peter
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so what did it say, its taken down now
Craig McCluskey wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 20:19:10 -0700 "Bob Rentfro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
This is kind of odd.can this dude do this?
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/270469359.html
Well, he did it.
The real point is, "Can he get away wit
I'll beat that with $510 even and lunch when you drive it here..LOL
Mike
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From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] selling my 300D
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Sunil Hari wrote:
Selli
My 1985 300TD has a noise coming from the rear, which I had my indy 'fix' last
year. It has the following traits: It is clearly in time with speed, and
sounds like hammering. It is most pronounced on hard acceleration, goes almost
away while coasting, and if I decelerate, it also is loud, but
I didnt know your 240D was manny tranny, we should talk about that.
OK Don wrote:
What's the condition, or miles when replaced, of the belt tensioner
and the vacuum pump?
I think you're crazy for downgrading from this car to a 240D, but who
am I to judge?
Interested in trading for my '81 240D m
We have a biodiesel list, your questions would probably be better
answered there.
Tom Harruff wrote:
At today's MBCA Section Breakfast meeting I had a lady owner of an 85 300D
asking questions about running her car on WVO or SVO.
I know some of you have been through the journey and could prov
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Sunil Hari wrote:
Selling my 1992 300D 2.5T - it's a fantastic car, but it's too nice for me.
My plan is to downgrade to a 240D (the "student model" for a career
student).
Basics: 290Kmi, smoke silver (702) exterior, beige MB-Tex interior.
Details: Everything works but the rear passen
That makes since, I have seen alot of 240D's with worn out engines, I
guess because you have to rev the crap out them while going down the
highway.
Zoltan Finks wrote:
I read that article on million-mile cars and one of the interviewees
mentioned that he likes to keep his speed down on the
would probably be a lot cheaper, although got alot going on and a big
backlog on shipping.
Jim Cathey wrote:
Call Rusty - he can get LOTS of stuff that isn't on the website.
Or get a used one from Kleb.
-- Jim
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archer wrote:
My '83 300D has a vacuum leak when the weather is cold, which stops when
the
weather is warm. The locks will operate when leaving the house, but
after
driving 12 miles to town in the cold air, the locks will not work. I'm
not
sure which part to replace first in order to try and
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