[MBZ] for the Canadians on the list

2007-06-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I saw one of your own in concert the other night in Tulsa. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250

Re: [MBZ] Car comparo

2007-06-29 Thread Luther
I have found this "confidence" to be addictive. I almost dare people to screw up when I know I can be safe and in the right should an accident occur. I am more safe when I have passengers or cargo (bowling balls). Luther On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 18:25:25 -0500, Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: [MBZ] 114/115 spotted

2007-06-29 Thread OK Don
Me too - my first Benz. 4 on the column no less --- On 6/29/07, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i had a 4 speed 220D. i liked it. > -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." -James Madison '90 300D, '

Re: [MBZ] Car comparo

2007-06-29 Thread Redghost
The bimmers are preppy boys and gals who want to be seen to have a bit of european flair. They are found at wine tastings, fern bars, whole foods, or chic night clubs. More cash than brains. This may not reflect the BMW car crowd in other towns, but hits the nail in Seattle On Jun 29, 2

Re: [MBZ] It's da bomb

2007-06-29 Thread Redghost
At least the terrorist were paying attention to the VW ad about not using that car. Ad was pulled, but can be found online clay On Jun 29, 2007, at 6:52 PM, Hendrik Riessen wrote: > Shows that this is the work of amateurs, MB's do not make good bomb > cars > because they don't explode as we

Re: [MBZ] 114/115 spotted

2007-06-29 Thread Redghost
I would suspect there is a decline in the poorly maintained 114/115 based on the population at the PnP. I am seeing many more fine examples on the road. These look to be well loved and cared for, driven by younger people. Might be that tipping point where folks are selling them for penni

Re: [MBZ] tonight on fox soccer NOW Windows Vista installation

2007-06-29 Thread Redghost
Not really like running a 115, since M$ no longer supports 98, but the classic center and Rusty have parts to keep the Benz on the road. On Jun 29, 2007, at 1:02 PM, R A Bennell wrote: > Hi Andrew > > Have you come up with any good reason to switch to Vista? > > I'm still running 98 on my offi

Re: [MBZ] 114/115 spotted

2007-06-29 Thread Redghost
I found a nice dark blue 114 two years ago at a dealer lot. Looked really great until I got to the driver side quarter panel. Hole about the size of a golf ball encircled in rust. I still see the car on the lot, but am sure the hole would fit an apple now. clay On Jun 29, 2007, at 12:53

Re: [MBZ] Paint Color & Heat : was Window Tint

2007-06-29 Thread Redghost
I am willing to hazard that a lighter color does reduce heat gain. Gump is Dunkel Grun exterior with standard black Tex interior. I got a bug up my --s a few years ago that she would look better with a tan interior, so got the rattle can and went to town. Prior to the new color, summer h

Re: [MBZ] 114/115 spotted

2007-06-29 Thread Gary Hurst
i had a 4 speed 220D. i liked it. On 6/29/07, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you are lucky, it's a 4 speed 220D. If it's a gasser then it is a 280 > 6 cylinder. It's still a great engine but not as economical. > > Thanks, Tom > 256-656-1924 > > -Original Message- > From: "

Re: [MBZ] Car comparo

2007-06-29 Thread Zoltan Finks
Larry and Clay wrote about the price. Kevin wrote about the uniqueness. I can say as a relative newcomer to Benzes that I assumed that even a 25 year old one would still be way prohibitively expensive to purchase. It was one story on PBS about WVO, and the subsequent finding of this list that taug

Re: [MBZ] AC question

2007-06-29 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On 6/29/07, Robert & Tara Ludwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you use one of those little can with attached low side gauge > kits,they will work ok, but they must be made in Minnasota because they > usually have the green zone on the gauge a bit on the low side for real > hot places. If it get'

Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing

2007-06-29 Thread Hendrik Riessen
And the passenger side and the boot (or trunk as you say), basically there are two types of actuators, master and slave. Three of each. - Original Message - From: "LWB250" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 11:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Central

Re: [MBZ] It's da bomb

2007-06-29 Thread Hendrik Riessen
Shows that this is the work of amateurs, MB's do not make good bomb cars because they don't explode as well as cheaper makes. - Original Message - From: "Sunil Hari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 10:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] It's da bomb

Re: [MBZ] AC question

2007-06-29 Thread Robert & Tara Ludwick
If you use one of those little can with attached low side gauge kits,they will work ok, but they must be made in Minnasota because they usually have the green zone on the gauge a bit on the low side for real hot places. If it get's real hot out while you are checking/charging 45-55 lb on the lo

Re: [MBZ] 380SL ignition problem

2007-06-29 Thread Peter Frederick
Check the ignition unit and resistors, if equiped. Bad coil will do this sometimes, too. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change de

Re: [MBZ] MB used by Terrorist

2007-06-29 Thread Peter Frederick
Ah, but a silver W124 is almost invisible. Old enough to avoid notice, in good shape so no one suspects it's somewhere where it doesn't belong, and the color is not noticable. If the engine or tranny is in bad shape, they aren't horrible expensive because no one wants to spend a big pile of c

Re: [MBZ] MB used by Terrorist

2007-06-29 Thread Allan Streib
"LarryT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't understand this - unless it's because of the UKs RH drive? > In the US even W123s and 124s are not what I consider cheap - at > least if you want one that hasn't been damaged beyond imagination. > And the W126s are holding their value pretty well - W1

Re: [MBZ] 380SL ignition problem

2007-06-29 Thread JFreezn
In a message dated 6/29/2007 10:40:25 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My daughter says that when she tries to start the car, it will crank, but won't fire. As she lets off the starter, it tries to fire. I told her to try taking the key clear out between tries.

Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing

2007-06-29 Thread JFreezn
In a message dated 6/29/2007 7:19:54 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For the most part, the pumps are pretty robust, although I did have one fail on me. Troubleshooting on these systems is nearly the same as the 123 and earlier chassis', however, in this case you

Re: [MBZ] 87 MBZ 300D Turbo Smoking/Idle Problem Update

2007-06-29 Thread JFreezn
In a message dated 6/29/2007 7:07:00 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm trying to play with the IP timing. In order to adjust IP timing I have to loosen the three bolts that hold the IP housing then turn the hex adjustment - is this correct? I am having a terrible

Re: [MBZ] Car comparo

2007-06-29 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On 6/29/07, Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: . Even the original > designs are looking like knock offs of knock off designs. Like the > Kia, chrysler, benz knock off front ends and how a bunch of cars all > look like a honda civic from the back. Benz included Too true. Jaguars are starting

Re: [MBZ] Car comparo

2007-06-29 Thread Redghost
The older models inspire you to drive with confidence. There are a bunch of idiots out there who are still paying for their cars and have no idea how to drive. I know that any encounter I have with them, Gump will mess up her paint, but they will have severe body damage and a huge bill.

Re: [MBZ] tonight on fox soccer NOW Windows Vista installation

2007-06-29 Thread LarryT
I'll wait a year for the bugs to be wiped out - way too many frustrations for new sw. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/

[MBZ] MB used by Terrorist

2007-06-29 Thread LarryT
Some comments about the terrorists using MB for bombs - some mentioned 5th Gear buying a MB for ~ $1000 to destroy - and it was mentioned older (but not real old) MBs are cheap - I don't understand this - unless it's because of the UKs RH drive? In the US even W123s and 124s are not what I c

Re: [MBZ] Window Tint

2007-06-29 Thread Redghost
We need it for those three days in June when the thermometer hits 90* and maybe once or twice in July. It is really that winter sun that kills us. Need to have tint to keep glare down with that sun so low on the horizon. I suspect that few drivers suffer much with being at work during th

Re: [MBZ] tonight on fox soccer NOW Windows Vista installation

2007-06-29 Thread Mitch Haley
LarryT wrote: > > Personally, I have trouble thinking of *anything* they could do that would > make me want to spend almost $200 for a new suite. > Convince all the other morons to buy a new suite with incompatible save format, and then send files to you that you can't open w/o the new suite?

Re: [MBZ] tonight on fox soccer NOW Windows Vista installation

2007-06-29 Thread LarryT
Ya'll wrote:< If it's not broke why fix it? Indeed.>> You *know* the answer - they have to find a reason to get users of Office 95, O97, O'00, etc to spend $100, $200 or nore to upgrade. The only reason to upgrade anymore is features now that the programs are pretty seamless and operate easily

Re: [MBZ] tonight on fox soccer NOW Windows Vista installation

2007-06-29 Thread OK Don
I've installed Vista Business on a desktop and an HP tc4400 tablet with no issues and very little effort. I always do a format and clean installation, never upgrade. It's new, so is fun to play with. There are some neat features, but nothing that I'd pay for. The biggest "advance" in Vista in my op

Re: [MBZ] 114/115 spotted

2007-06-29 Thread Mitch Haley
andrew strasfogel wrote: > > It can only be a 220, 220 diesel, 230 or 250 if it's a truly a '72 114/115 > sedan. I once saw an ad for 2 '72 SE and a '72 SEL. One of the three had a 114 serial number. The seller didn't notice the difference. So I wonder if the car in question here might be a 108

Re: [MBZ] Semi O.T. A/C Kweshun

2007-06-29 Thread Marshall Booth
Craig McCluskey wrote: > On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 12:38:09 -0400 Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> Mercedes offers the following recommendations for adding oil to the AC >> system for ALL compressors (York, Delco R4 or A6 and Nippondenso: >> >> When system is suddenly emptied (blowout)

Re: [MBZ] tonight on fox soccer NOW Windows Vista installation

2007-06-29 Thread Loren Faeth
Yep, as do I and most people who are savvy enough to click on a few places. At 03:55 PM 6/29/2007, you wrote: >Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Vista can still be converted back to the 2000 pro look and feel, and > > this substantially reduces the hardware requirements. > >XP can do t

[MBZ] Words [was Re: AC question]

2007-06-29 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 13:43:41 -0700 "Alex Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 6/29/07, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 10:05:46 -0700 "Alex Chamberlain" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Or (b) there is a significant (i.e. ectogenic) leak in the sy

Re: [MBZ] tonight on fox soccer NOW Windows Vista installation

2007-06-29 Thread Loren Faeth
Can you say Free? as in Open Office Why pay? At 03:45 PM 6/29/2007, you wrote: >One compelling reason is that I don't even have a full, legitimate version >of Word or Excel at present. Also, it was a free upgrade from Best Buy when >I purchased the machine last fall. > > > > >On 6/29/07, Lore

Re: [MBZ] tonight on fox soccer NOW Windows Vista installation

2007-06-29 Thread Allan Streib
Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Vista can still be converted back to the 2000 pro look and feel, and > this substantially reduces the hardware requirements. XP can do this too, and that's the way I run it... makes a noticiable difference, and with the additional lipstick and eyeshadow t

Re: [MBZ] tonight on fox soccer NOW Windows Vista installation

2007-06-29 Thread andrew strasfogel
One compelling reason is that I don't even have a full, legitimate version of Word or Excel at present. Also, it was a free upgrade from Best Buy when I purchased the machine last fall. On 6/29/07, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Vista seems to be ok if you have enough hardware. I

Re: [MBZ] AC question

2007-06-29 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On 6/29/07, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 10:05:46 -0700 "Alex Chamberlain" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Or (b) there is a significant (i.e. ectogenic) leak in the system. > > > ec·tog·e·nous > > 1. Able to live and develop outside a host, as certain pathoge

Re: [MBZ] 114/115 spotted

2007-06-29 Thread andrew strasfogel
It can only be a 220, 220 diesel, 230 or 250 if it's a truly a '72 114/115 sedan. On 6/29/07, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you are lucky, it's a 4 speed 220D. If it's a gasser then it is a 280 > 6 cylinder. It's still a great engine but not as economical. > > Thanks, Tom > 256-65

Re: [MBZ] Paint Color & Heat : was Window Tint

2007-06-29 Thread andrew strasfogel
There are many bozos around here with double black SUVs, aka sweatboxes, who get their jolies by emitting vast amounts of greenhouse gases (it fuels their egos) Andrew in D.C. On 6/29/07, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > All the vehicles I have seen owned by people in the Mojave de

Re: [MBZ] tonight on fox soccer NOW Windows Vista installation

2007-06-29 Thread Loren Faeth
Vista seems to be ok if you have enough hardware. I agree there is no compelling reason to use it. I prefer 2000 pro, although unless you have a version slipstreamed with all the services and patches, it takes forever to get it installed and updated. Vista can still be converted back to the

Re: [MBZ] tonight on fox soccer NOW Windows Vista installation

2007-06-29 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 16:07:06 -0400 Peter T. Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My IT guy says that WinXP is the most for the money, he asked me not > to put Vista on my machine. At work, I "updated" my windoze system from Office 2003 to Office 2007. I then received an email on my Linux system

Re: [MBZ] 87 124 pdfs needed was Klima

2007-06-29 Thread Loren Faeth
I pulled the plug off the compressor, and it has 13+ volts at the blue/green wire. I checked the clutch coil, and it has 4.1 Ohm. Put it all back together again and when I started the car, and the compressor ran. I pulled the Klima jumper and put the relay back in and the compressor turned o

Re: [MBZ] Semi O.T. A/C Kweshun

2007-06-29 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 12:38:09 -0400 Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mercedes offers the following recommendations for adding oil to the AC > system for ALL compressors (York, Delco R4 or A6 and Nippondenso: > > When system is suddenly emptied (blowout) add 40 ml > When replacing Conde

Re: [MBZ] 114/115 spotted

2007-06-29 Thread Tom Hargrave
If you are lucky, it's a 4 speed 220D. If it's a gasser then it is a 280 6 cylinder. It's still a great engine but not as economical. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: "Curt Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Diesel List" Sent: 6/29/07 2:54 PM Subject: [MBZ] 114/115 spotte

Re: [MBZ] 380SL ignition problem

2007-06-29 Thread Loren Faeth
Thanks Don. It is an intermittent thing. When I got there, I put a voltmeter on the Coil + and it had juice. I cranked it and the meter showed juice and it started up. I tried running it a while to duplicate the conditions, but I could not get the problem to appear. I don't remember the re

Re: [MBZ] Paint Color & Heat : was Window Tint

2007-06-29 Thread Loren Faeth
All the vehicles I have seen owned by people in the Mojave desert are white. (unless they are short-timers) At 02:52 PM 6/29/2007, you wrote: >I will admit that I do not know the technical answer to the question >posed. However, I think we all know that one >can generally lay one's hand flat on

Re: [MBZ] tonight on fox soccer NOW Windows Vista installation

2007-06-29 Thread Peter T . Arnold
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:49:31 -0400, you wrote: >While we're OT, has anyone installed the new Windoze Vista yet on their PC? >I have a relatively new Compaq laptop and am wondering what sort of >glitches/flaws/fatal error messages to expect and how to deal with them >I know it won't be smooth s

Re: [MBZ] 114/115 spotted

2007-06-29 Thread R A Bennell
Well, like most old cars, value is based mostly on condition. Nice and mostly original will fetch a good price no matter whether it is an MB or a Gremlin. Some will be more desirable and I should think you could lump most of the MB products into that category. As such, the combination of real qua

Re: [MBZ] tonight on fox soccer NOW Windows Vista installation

2007-06-29 Thread Gary Hurst
my god. mentioning vista in the same sentence as the silverbacks. what is this world coming to? On 6/29/07, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > While we're OT, has anyone installed the new Windoze Vista yet on their PC? > I have a relatively new Compaq laptop and am wondering what sort

Re: [MBZ] AC question

2007-06-29 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 10:05:46 -0700 "Alex Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Or (b) there is a significant (i.e. ectogenic) leak in the system. ec·tog·e·nous 1. Able to live and develop outside a host, as certain pathogenic microorganisms do. 2. Originating or produced from outside a

Re: [MBZ] tonight on fox soccer NOW Windows Vista installation

2007-06-29 Thread R A Bennell
Hi Andrew Have you come up with any good reason to switch to Vista? I'm still running 98 on my office computer and it isn't doing anything bad ( I think that must be akin to running a 115 MB - out of date but still pretty good). I have 2000 on another computer here in the office and we have 2 m

Re: [MBZ] 114/115 spotted

2007-06-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
thats kind of expensive --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor 918-746-1400 x305 - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Diesel List" Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 2:53 PM Subject: [MBZ] 114/115 spotted > Hey all, > > Around the corner from my

Re: [MBZ] tonight on fox soccer NOW Windows Vista installation

2007-06-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
No, I am waiting on my brother to send me a copy of a volume licensed version. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor 918-746-1400 x305 - Original Message - From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 2:49 PM

Re: [MBZ] tonight on fox soccer NOW Windows Vista installation

2007-06-29 Thread Allan Streib
"andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > While we're OT, has anyone installed the new Windoze Vista yet on their PC? > I have a relatively new Compaq laptop and am wondering what sort of > glitches/flaws/fatal error messages to expect and how to deal with them > I know it won't be smo

Re: [MBZ] 114/115 spotted

2007-06-29 Thread Gary Hurst
250. 230. if it's worth 3800 bucks, i've really lost touch with this market. On 6/29/07, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey all, > > Around the corner from my office theres an as yet unknown Mercedes 114 or > 115. All I know is that on the windshield is "72 $3800". I'm gonna go chec

[MBZ] 114/115 spotted

2007-06-29 Thread Curt Raymond
Hey all, Around the corner from my office theres an as yet unknown Mercedes 114 or 115. All I know is that on the windshield is "72 $3800". I'm gonna go check it out tonight. My suspicion is its a gasser, if it is what might it be? I'm still looking for a backup car -Curt -

Re: [MBZ] Paint Color & Heat : was Window Tint

2007-06-29 Thread R A Bennell
I will admit that I do not know the technical answer to the question posed. However, I think we all know that one can generally lay one's hand flat on the hood of a white car that has been sitting in the sun but one cannot do that with a dark colored car. I have to think that there is going to be

Re: [MBZ] tonight on fox soccer NOW Windows Vista installation

2007-06-29 Thread andrew strasfogel
While we're OT, has anyone installed the new Windoze Vista yet on their PC? I have a relatively new Compaq laptop and am wondering what sort of glitches/flaws/fatal error messages to expect and how to deal with them I know it won't be smooth sailing. On 6/29/07, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] 300SD A/C oddity

2007-06-29 Thread Rich Thomas
Wonder why they did not change out the sensor then and bodged that thing up? I'll have to have a go at it. Thanks --R Marshall Booth wrote: > Rich Thomas wrote: > >> I'm trying to get the service records from the PO, if his sister who was >> cleaning out the parents' house has not thrown t

[MBZ] tonight on fox soccer

2007-06-29 Thread Gary Hurst
USL soccer game of the week, as our atlanta silverbacks visit rochester. 8PM. I'm getting excited already! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or c

Re: [MBZ] It's da bomb

2007-06-29 Thread Jeff Zedic
One of the things I had to get used to here was all the nice Benzes! And they're CHEAP! Remember Fifth Gear bought a 124 wagon for £500 and tried to kill it. There's loads of them around!! jeff Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list s

Re: [MBZ] 300SD A/C oddity

2007-06-29 Thread Marshall Booth
Rich Thomas wrote: > I'm trying to get the service records from the PO, if his sister who was > cleaning out the parents' house has not thrown them out -- anyway, the > radiator looks to be newish, and the rest of the car was very well > maintained, and it does not run hot (and it is HOT here),

Re: [MBZ] Paint Color & Heat : was Window Tint

2007-06-29 Thread Zoltan Finks
Got to chime in on this one. I do see the point that given enough time maybe the white car would gather about as much heat as the black car. But then again, maybe not, because all the while, the black car's surface is collecting more heat than the white's. I'm chiming in because my Dad (you met h

Re: [MBZ] 380SL ignition problem

2007-06-29 Thread OK Don
If it's like my '78 - there are two resisters in-line to the coil - one for running, the other (lower value) for starting. Check them for continuity/value. They are on the left inner front fender - ceramic rectangles. Also check/clean the connections. On 6/29/07, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr

Re: [MBZ] It's da bomb

2007-06-29 Thread Rich Thomas
No, they did not want to wait for it to glow. They want an immediate ignition. --R BillR wrote: > Perhaps that explains why they were willing to blow it up > BillR > Jacksonville FL > > << > Sunil asked<> > > I agree it was a 124 - same color as mine - but they don't have style - it

Re: [MBZ] 300SD A/C oddity

2007-06-29 Thread Rich Thomas
I'm trying to get the service records from the PO, if his sister who was cleaning out the parents' house has not thrown them out -- anyway, the radiator looks to be newish, and the rest of the car was very well maintained, and it does not run hot (and it is HOT here), so maybe it is just some w

Re: [MBZ] 300SD A/C oddity

2007-06-29 Thread Marshall Booth
Rich Thomas wrote: > My bad, new car -- it is an 84. The thing that is bodged to the hose > looks like a temp sensor of some sort (almost like the water temp sensor > that screws into the manifold on my old GM cars!). If so, it is sorta > measuring temp on that hose fitting. hmmm. > > The au

Re: [MBZ] 300SD rear camber, again

2007-06-29 Thread Kevin
If you have the tool, you can somewhat easily do it in a day. And yes, my 201 lived in massachsetts for years. I actually had to replace the entire rear subframe due to rust. Surprisingly, this and the two front LCAs got rid of most of it. You'll need a floor jack, jack stands, some really big so

Re: [MBZ] 300SD rear camber, again

2007-06-29 Thread Curt Raymond
*sigh* in fact I had the links replaced in April but I think I'd waited to look so the subframe mounts were toast. The rear end has a decidedly squishy feel. Last night I was going around a long bend and it felt somewhat like the rear end was coming around the car. Wierd feeling... If I can't

Re: [MBZ] AC question

2007-06-29 Thread Curt Raymond
I'd agree if the AC in my truck didn't work at all (like on my 190D) but since it works somewhat I'm thinking its just a bit low. I've got 3 days off next week so I'll try 'er out! -Curt Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 12:03:44 -0400 From: Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC question

Re: [MBZ] AC question

2007-06-29 Thread Curt Raymond
Great! Right now it still cools just not as well as it used to so I'm thinking a can added might do the trick. Thanks -Curt Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 08:50:14 -0700 From: "Alex Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC question To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PRO

[MBZ] 380SL ignition problem

2007-06-29 Thread Loren Faeth
85 380SL: My daughter says that when she tries to start the car, it will crank, but won't fire. As she lets off the starter, it tries to fire. I told her to try taking the key clear out between tries. It has not worked yet. This happened once before, and the problem went away without any a

Re: [MBZ] 300SD A/C oddity

2007-06-29 Thread Rich Thomas
My bad, new car -- it is an 84. The thing that is bodged to the hose looks like a temp sensor of some sort (almost like the water temp sensor that screws into the manifold on my old GM cars!). If so, it is sorta measuring temp on that hose fitting. hmmm. The aux fan runs, I will have to see

Re: [MBZ] 87 MBZ 300D Turbo Smoking/Idle Problem Update

2007-06-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
Have you checked chain stretch? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Jim Cathey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 9:19 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 87 MBZ 300D Turbo Smoking/Idle Problem Update >> I'

Re: [MBZ] AC question

2007-06-29 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On 6/29/07, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Alex Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Yup, my thinking as regards diagnosis of post-'96 A/C systems is > > that R134a is so cheap that you might as well try the > > mixed-oil-and-refrigerant-with-a-gauge can at McParts before you

Re: [MBZ] 87 124 pdfs needed

2007-06-29 Thread Marshall Booth
Loren Faeth wrote: > It that were the case, then where do the controls come into the > circuit? Are you saying the juice goes to the compressor + and then > out from the compressor - and then to all the control circuitry? If > that were the case, they why am I getting juice to the Klima #5 pi

Re: [MBZ] 300SD rear camber, again

2007-06-29 Thread Kevin
On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 12:52:40PM -0400, Marshall Booth wrote: > Curt Raymond wrote: > > Does anybody have a writeup on subframe mounts? My 190D needs 'em and I was > > thinking of doing them myself. Good excuse to buy a floorjack I think. > > > > -Curt > > Rear subframe mounts on a 201/124 are

Re: [MBZ] 300SD rear camber, again

2007-06-29 Thread Marshall Booth
Curt Raymond wrote: > Does anybody have a writeup on subframe mounts? My 190D needs 'em and I was > thinking of doing them myself. Good excuse to buy a floorjack I think. > > -Curt Rear subframe mounts on a 201/124 are much more difficult for the DIYer than on 123/126s. Marshall -- Marshall B

Re: [MBZ] 87 MBZ 300D Turbo Smoking/Idle Problem Update

2007-06-29 Thread Doug Quance
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Re: [MBZ] 87 124 pdfs needed

2007-06-29 Thread Loren Faeth
It that were the case, then where do the controls come into the circuit? Are you saying the juice goes to the compressor + and then out from the compressor - and then to all the control circuitry? If that were the case, they why am I getting juice to the Klima #5 pin? At 11:03 AM 6/29/2007,

Re: [MBZ] 300SD A/C oddity

2007-06-29 Thread Marshall Booth
Rich Thomas wrote: > Looking over the new 300SD yesterday, I see these two wires, looks like > they are coming from the A/C drier? pressure sensor (or something), > which is behind the LF headlight, that are not connected to anything. > But then the wire they are supposed to connect to, is conn

Re: [MBZ] Semi O.T. A/C Kweshun

2007-06-29 Thread Marshall Booth
Jim Cathey wrote: >> I have RTFM and have all necessary stuff and tools. The Question is >> this:- if some portion of the gas has leaked out, and presumably some >> of the oil, how do you estimate the quantity of oil remaining? Do I >> use one of those charge cans with oil, or will that over oil

Re: [MBZ] AC question

2007-06-29 Thread Allan Streib
"Alex Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Yup, my thinking as regards diagnosis of post-'96 A/C systems is > that R134a is so cheap that you might as well try the > mixed-oil-and-refrigerant-with-a-gauge can at McParts before you do > anything else. I'v read that a "proper" A/C recharge re

Re: [MBZ] 87 124 pdfs needed

2007-06-29 Thread Jim Cathey
> I need to trace/test the wiring from fuse to compressor, via the > Klima, Push buttons, thermostat, pressure switch and safety > switch. I have a good fuse in #7 position and I have 13+v at > terminal 5 in the Klima socket. I have no juice downline, even with > the jumper in Klima 5-7 pins. I

Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing

2007-06-29 Thread Dan Steadman
Not sure what type actuator you are talking about, but it sounds like the old type. Check eBay item 290134199414. Regards, Dan Steadman 1980 300D 1980 300TD Subject: Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text

Re: [MBZ] AC question

2007-06-29 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On 6/29/07, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Fred's AC question makes me think of my '96 Dodge which has never had any AC > work done to it. It seems like its not cooling so well anymore, whats the > wisdom on this? There are kits that come with a gauge, presumeably they come > with ins

[MBZ] 87 124 pdfs needed

2007-06-29 Thread Loren Faeth
Would anyone be kind enough to send me the applicable pdfs so I can track down the Air Conditioning wiring on an 87 300D 124? I seem to have misplaced my cd. I out it out so I could look up A/C related stuff, but now I can't figure out where I put it. I need to trace/test the wiring from fus

Re: [MBZ] 87 MBZ 300D Turbo Smoking/Idle Problem Update

2007-06-29 Thread LarryT
I don't think you need to play with the IP *unless* there's a reason to suspect it has changed without help from you or a technician - if youfound the hold down bolts loose then it may have changed, but if it's the same it was when it ran good, I woud not think it changed without help. Uness t

Re: [MBZ] It's da bomb

2007-06-29 Thread BillR
Perhaps that explains why they were willing to blow it up BillR Jacksonville FL << Sunil asked<> I agree it was a 124 - same color as mine - but they don't have style - it wasn't a diesel! ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) >>> ___

[MBZ] AC question

2007-06-29 Thread Curt Raymond
Fred's AC question makes me think of my '96 Dodge which has never had any AC work done to it. It seems like its not cooling so well anymore, whats the wisdom on this? There are kits that come with a gauge, presumeably they come with instructions. Presumably this kind of kit is pretty stupid proo

Re: [MBZ] It's da bomb

2007-06-29 Thread LarryT
Sunil asked<> I agree it was a 124 - same color as mine - but they don't have style - it wasn't a diesel! ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info ht

Re: [MBZ] Bosch injector rebuild on 600SEL V12

2007-06-29 Thread LarryT
James, If you dont want to tear into the injectors yourself - all yellow pages usually have at least 1 Bosch authorized service center - if you don;t see one (look under engines), look under truck servicing - most will work on the small diesels also - If you still can't find one, contact me of

[MBZ] 190D subframe mounts

2007-06-29 Thread Frederick Moir
Curt. The diff. on a 201-190D, DT etc bolts directly to the subframe, not rubber mounted. Of course I'm known for my flights of fancy, so check it out. YMMV Fred Moir Lynn MA 190DT 300TD - Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos n

Re: [MBZ] Pre-Benz car for sale

2007-06-29 Thread E M
Mobil 1, just expect a few drips. :-) Ed 300E On 29/06/07, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > http://www.makezine.com/blog/archive/2007/06/worlds_oldest_car_for_sal.html?CMP=OTC-0D6B48984890 > > What kind of oil would I use in this car? > > --R > > __

Re: [MBZ] 300SD rear camber, again

2007-06-29 Thread LWB250
I thought there was one on the old mbz.org site, but I couldn't find it. It's not difficult, it just involves a lot of brute force sort of work. Start in advance and soak the bolt really, really well with penetrating oil. You'll need a breaker bar to get it loose, I guarantee. Lube up the new m

[MBZ] Road trip

2007-06-29 Thread Jim Cathey
We'll be out of town for a week or so. Heading to the wilds of Alta, Wyoming. (Jackson Hole area.) Will be swinging back through Yellowstone to show my boy some stinking water features. Leaving in an hour or two, but if anybody wants to chat cars in Alta, Driggs, or JH e-mail nowish! MB Content

Re: [MBZ] 300SD rear camber, again

2007-06-29 Thread Curt Raymond
Does anybody have a writeup on subframe mounts? My 190D needs 'em and I was thinking of doing them myself. Good excuse to buy a floorjack I think. -Curt Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 16:26:46 -0700 (PDT) From: LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD rear camber, again To: Mercedes Discussi

Re: [MBZ] A/C Oel Kweshun

2007-06-29 Thread Jim Cathey
> I'm gonna go for the oil and gas mixed charge. > Does this make it a two-stroke? Yes! A ten-cylinder two-stroke pump, in the case of the ND. (Two-cylinder for York, four for R4, six for A6, ten for 10P15C, you get the picture!) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebe

Re: [MBZ] Pre-Benz car for sale

2007-06-29 Thread Jim Cathey
> http://www.makezine.com/blog/archive/2007/06/ > worlds_oldest_car_for_sal.html?CMP=OTC-0D6B48984890 > > What kind of oil would I use in this car? Whale, naturally! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymb

Re: [MBZ] 300SD A/C oddity

2007-06-29 Thread Jim Cathey
> where the wires connect. Very weird. A/C works OK, I am wondering if > this is some sort of halfass bypass for an inop switch/sensor that > would > necessitate venting the system to replace. HMMM. Sounds like it. There are usually two sensors, one pressure sensor that cuts off the compresso

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