John,
you actually have two batteries and the one on my 05 CDI which
services the accessories went out at 50K and 4 years, still under
warranty.
I too, love my 05 E320 CDI and have never had a better car. Just had
to replace the glow plugs last month and that is it.
John
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009
And I speak this truth from experience-two of them. Actually mine sits
now while I blow around in the 300D 2.5t with newly cleaned turbo.
Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co.
Wickford, RI
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 9:32 PM, OK Don wrote:
That was a low blow! (but
Dieselvolk,
While inspecting my '87 300TD voltage regulator, I took a look around to
see what else looked like a problem, and noticed a good bit of oil on
the bottom of the intake side of the turbo. Related to this I believe,
I've got oil seeping from around the plug for the breather tube coming
I think I've solved it. Third day in a row with no sign of alternator
problems. It's nice when they're easy!
Max
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Subject: RE: [MBZ]
Hi Curt,
Re: the Guinness/Bass vs Guinness/Harp
Apparently that depends on your location and, to some degree, your politics.
Around here it's Guinness/Bass. There are some for whom the image of the
Guinness in a superior position to the Bass in the pint glass has a
certain.
Thanks Russ, that makes me feel good about it. I put that write up in my
things to be remembered file.
-Curt
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:14:27 -0600
From: Russ Williams rawil...@eatel.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D water pump?
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Its the first thing to try anyway.
Anybody know the size? I'd rather buy a piece of hose first than yank it and
take the shredded nasty remnants to size up...
-Curt
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:18:05 -0800
From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Coolant loss
To: Mercedes
John F. wrote: I too, love my 05 E320 CDI and have never had a better car.
Just had to replace the glow plugs last month and that is it.
I do think the CDI looks like a very nice car. I wish I could find a used one
with enough miles to make it reasonably priced. I was a little concerned
Donald Snook wrote:
How has the urea injection thing worked out? Is that something you
have to refill every once in a while? Where you do get the stuff? How
does it work? Inquiring minds want to know.
If you get a 2005 or 2006 you don't have that system. :) It is only the
BlueTec 2007+
John Freer wrote:
You actually have two batteries and the one on my 05 CDI which
services the accessories went out at 50K and 4 years, still under
warranty.
Yep, according to the manual, the error message I'm seeing can be caused
by three things: alternator, battery control module, or
Oil consumption due to bad valve stem seals is much
less of an issue on turbos because there is much less
pressure differential (on average) across that seal,
since the intake manifold is pressurized to some degree.
That said, I don't know.
-- Jim
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they are talking about the CDI, not the Bluetec.
Donald Snook wrote:
John F. wrote: I too, love my 05 E320 CDI and have never had a better car. Just had
to replace the glow plugs last month and that is it.
I do think the CDI looks like a very nice car. I wish I could find a used one
with
That word quality has too many definitions to be meaningful. So I don't
blame MBZ for not talking about it.
To some people, quality describes how many defects a new example includes.
To other people (most of us) it describes how durable a particular model is.
And still to other people quality
As I recall it is an odd size and the dealer doesn't sell it except in
bulk. I replaced one on a 300TD using a calipers and generous
behind-the-counter time at local autoparts place to find a hose that was
close enough.
Max
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Wasn't the protagonist in 'Zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance'
driven crazy in his attempt to define quality?
Max
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Thanks Jim, I think I need to rig an oil trap into the breather tube to
test my theory.
Max
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Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 9:22 AM
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Subject:
Hi Tom,
Yeah I was just yankin yer chain. I prefer a porter anyway... ;) I had a coffee
porter some time ago that was amazing but can't find it again...
-Curt
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:42:44 -0500
From: tom tomscat tomsc...@hotmail.com
Subject: [MBZ] Black and Tan
To: mercedes diesel
John Robbins wrote:
and a few months ago the plastic piece that ratchets the parking brake
broke.
I don't get that. Plastic ratchet pawls and/or sectors in a highly stressed and
important area? Those ratchets usually see a few hundred pounds of force.
Reminds me of the ratcheting nylon
Thanks Max. The last time I replaced one was on my 300TD and my Indy gave me a
short piece of it. My little town is graced with a good old school parts shop.
I'll measure as best I can and see what they've got.
-Curt
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:56:42 -0500
From: Dillon, Meade M CIV
Kaleb wrote: they are talking about the CDI, not the Bluetec.
Yea, I figured that out. I thought the CDI had the Urea thing also. I forgot
that was a newer emission component to make it 50 state compliant under the new
standard.
Donald H. Snook
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Quality doesn't mean much of anything by itself. It requires a modifier,
such as high, poor or questionable. When somebody speaks of a real
quality item it drives the editor in me right up the wall.
--mf
/pedant
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV
On 12/11/2009 9:07 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:
I don't get that. Plastic ratchet pawls and/or sectors in a highly
stressed and important area? Those ratchets usually see a few hundred
pounds of force.
I don't get it either... If nothing else, it should be a more
substantial piece of plastic than
Speaking of dealers and experiences at same:
I had some trouble with my BMW last weekend. It has a theft deterrent feature
incorporated into the ignition lock cylinder. Actually, it has a whole bunch
of theft deterrent features, but this one was the item that failed. Here's how
it worked,
From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com
Long story summarized, BMW back on the road with a $300 repair bill and I
saved at least $300 more in not going to the dealer!
I would say you need to keep your indy. Quality repair shops with good rates
are hard to find.
Rick
Thanks Kaleb, Yes I did mean 84 TD. Don't know how my fingers got
that far off the mark. I guess it will be self evident when I get
to it as far as the back plate change over. I have a chance to
buy the TD. They want 900 for it but I think that is a bit too
much. It has a couple of rust spots
The only Mercedes I would consider purchasing NEW is the Bluetec.
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 5:07 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Dwight,
To be honest, I didn't really look for one, but will next time I'm there.
The only diesels I see around here, in the newer models, are most often in
Excessive valve to guide clearance along with petrified valve guide
seals will give you significant blowby problems on these engines.
The valve guide is fairly short, and although you won't suck much in
down around tine intake valve, you will generate quite a bit of oil
mist from exhaust
So, if you don't get the key all the way in and it spins freely, what are you
supposed to do, pull it out, turn it to a specific position and pull it out?
Sounds like belatedly shoving it in firmly isn't the way to go, ouch.
Mitch.
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On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:09:16 -0500 L Mark Finch mfi...@katzenfinch.com
wrote:
pedant
Quality doesn't mean much of anything by itself. It requires a
modifier, such as high, poor or questionable. When somebody speaks
of a real quality item it drives the editor in me right up the wall.
The
Peter,
Very informative, thanks for your thoughts. I've never done any head
work nor had it done for me, so I'm learning as much as I can. I'm
keeping my eye out for a good used head to put on the shelf, will follow
your advice if I have the head rebuilt.
As to the seepage, the grommet is new,
The guides on my brother's SDL are worn at 275,000 miles -- he's
having new guides installed and reamed to fit the valves correctly
while rebuilding the engine.
I would think that the 300,000 mile mark is about as far as one can
get without doing a valve job on these cars -- even Benz
http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/1504331557.html
Sounds like it might just need a valve adjustment and/or glow plugs, and some
other TLC
This is a near-twin of my car (I have the euro-style headlights).
Allan
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On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:22:03 -0500 Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
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Sounds like it might just need a valve adjustment and/or glow plugs, and
some other TLC
Power locks and antenna don't work due to vaccuum leak I haven't
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:
Does anybody know of any free scandisk and defrag programs that would be
better than what comes with windows?
Best way to defragment a Windows drive is to wipe it and install Linux. ;)
Seriously, why is this still
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 6:51 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:
And who could stand to drive
a Kia for ten years anyway?
Drive a Hyundai Genesis (made by the same company) and get back to me.
There's a reason why that car, by all reports, has the European
luxury makers quaking in their boots, much
he's just ignorant. it's brain damage roger, man. he formed an opinion on
hyunda/kia 20 years ago and now is done with the question. no amount of
empircal evidence can change that.
i'm actually stunned by how good that car is.
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Alex Chamberlain
I drove a Kia minivan (Sedona?) rental on a weekend getaway trip a couple of
weeks ago. Certainly nothing I'd ever want to own.
Very twitchy handling and something about the ride made everyone in the car
feel seasick.
Allan
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:33 -0800, Alex Chamberlain
Best way to defragment a Windows drive is to wipe it and install Linux. ;)
Yes, I wholeheartedly agree on that one. It also solves that nagging
buy the latest version bug that most Microsoft products seem to
have...
Not sure why NTFS likes to fragment, but on my dad's xp laptop it got
so bad
A friend has a Hyundai Azera (spelling?) and absolutely loves it.
Randy
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] warranty
That's the best example of why you should never hire a programmer with
a Master's degree or better. Those wonderful filesystem algorithms
only work good on paper :-)
-Dave Walton
On 12/11/09, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin
not to suddenly come across as a korean jockrider, but rental car versions
of stuff often suck. i had a rental car crown vic once that was about the
most hideous driving car ever.
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:
I drove a Kia minivan (Sedona?) rental
Hi all,
I've got 2 transmissions I'll never end up using that are taking up
space, figured I'd offer them up to better homes.
First is a 5 speed manual out of a 240D. Seems to be in good shape but
I've never had it in a car. I'm not certain on the year.
Second is an automatic out of a 78 NA
Wasn't Curt just looking for a manual trans for his 240D?
Max
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Subject: [MBZ] Anyone need a 240D
The driver's side lock on my 1983 300TD ALWAYS clams up when the temp. drops
below freezing. What is chronically wrong with the lock that it always does
this?
Worse, I can't unlock the car from the other side because the PS lock
plunger rises when I turn the key in the slot, but it doesn't click
Have you lubricated the lock cylinder with the MB spray lube?
Is the little chrome door missing which keeps (some) moisture out?
Max
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Sent: Friday, December 11,
Uh oh...
Gets roughly *27 mpg*. Power windows, *leathers*. Automatic. Paint is
faded. Runs nice *once it finally warms up*, doesn't like these cold
mornings. Does have electric block warmer. *Driver seat is ripped*
Sounds like another artful liar has moved into town.
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 12:22
27 MPG is not far from reality for a OM617. At least he's not claiming 45 like
some folks do.
Hard starting could just be glow plugs or a long-overdue valve adjustment.
It could be a POS, but it could be a good driver-in-the-rough too.
Allan
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:28 -0500, andrew
when i see an ad like that that doesn't mention mileage, i always figure
it's already approaching 300K miles and is going to be a money pit to
keep running,... what was that saying about nothing more expensive than
a cheap Mercedes? ;-)
cheers!
e
andrew strasfogel wrote:
Uh oh...
Gets
hi John!
we've gotten almost 7 years out of a severely abused Optima (Red
Top) in our J**p, but that's about it. (we have another with almost that
much time on it in there now with no indication of it getting tired,...
yet.)
if people are actually getting 10 years out of them, i haven't
A well maintained 300K 123 diesel shouldn't be a money pit.
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On Dec 11, 2009, at 3:49 PM, ernest breakfield
erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote:
when i see an ad like that that doesn't mention mileage, i always figure it's
already approaching 300K miles and is going to be
Donald,
sorry but given your history with cars, when i read this line i had
to laugh:
I had some trouble with my BMW last weekend. ;-)
in all seriousness, i'm glad it worked out to not be a bigger
problem than that, and that you were able to get it resolved as well as
you did. i
no argument there,... key phrases being well maintained and shouldn't.
given the rest of his/her ad, i'm skeptical that this qualifies on
the first key phrase. ;-)
cheers!
e
Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
A well maintained 300K 123 diesel shouldn't be a money pit.
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I must say, I do like some of the styling of the Genesis, but probably
because is looks so much like a BMW to me. As for having the Europeans
quaking in their boots, I'm not too sure about that one. And while there is
nothing wrong with a Lexus, I don't believe it compares to a Mercedes.
...Kaleb wrote: they are talking about the CDI, not the Bluetec.
Yea, I figured that out. I thought the CDI had the Urea thing also. I
forgot that was a newer emission component to make it 50 state compliant
under
the new standard...
No W211 diesels have used Urea at this point. The
Walt Zarnoch wrote:
First is a 5 speed manual out of a 240D. Seems to be in good shape but
I've never had it in a car. I'm not certain on the year.
5 FORWARD speeds?
If so, I don't believe it was OE in a US spec 240D, but I believe the 280E had a
5sp that would interchange, and there may
...In our estimation of Benz products, we also consider quality of
design,
which includes the overall function of the car, the durability of the
individual parts, and the ease and simplicity of service.
Plus, quality of the interior and exterior. Paint, panel fit, trim etc.
After all,
1. Sounds like your driver's door has a humidity problem.
2. Sounds like you need to adjust the rod length from the passenger door lock
cylinder.
Mitch.
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Allan Streib wrote:
27 MPG is not far from reality for a OM617.
Especially since it recently drove from Commiefornia to Indiana.
I got 28mpg from Florida to Michigan in a 1979 300SD.
Mitch.
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A well maintained 300K 123 diesel shouldn't be a money pit.
...or sell for $750.
Mitch.
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Whoops, my bad!
I'm used to 5 speeds, so I assumed it was a 5 speed.
Note to self, make sure it's a 5 speed before calling it a 5 speed...
Sorry for the mixup.
Walt
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
Walt Zarnoch wrote:
First is a 5 speed manual out of a
Walt Zarnoch wrote:
Whoops, my bad!
I'm used to 5 speeds, so I assumed it was a 5 speed.
Note to self, make sure it's a 5 speed before calling it a 5 speed...
Sorry for the mixup.
That's OK, when I joined these lists I thought a 4sp automatic was overdrive.
Mitch.
Is it worse for the turbo cars?
My '85 190D has around 325,000 and still starts and runs great considering the
abuse it took at the hands of the previous owner...
Uses only 1qt of oil in ~3000 miles and is improving on that score.
-Curt
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:15:18 -0600
From: Peter
I think the current Elantra is a dammed fine car stacked up against just about
anything. Sporty, quick, not bad looking, handles good, good on gas... I'd buy
one before I'd consider a C class and pocket the change.
-Curt
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:33:49 -0800
From: Alex Chamberlain
I find they tend to have rock hard tires pumped to the sidewall max too which
makes 'em feel odd and unpleasant.
I find all minivans unpleasant to ride in. I dunno why but all of them make me
vaugely queasy except one my cousin had, an early Toyota (not Previa though) I
think.
-Curt
Date:
5spd as in 5 forward speeds? Rare bird, I'd love to have one but have 1 too
many project cars as it is...
-Curt
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:57:26 -0500
From: Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com
Subject: [MBZ] Anyone need a 240D manual transmision or a NA 300D
automatic?
To: Mercedes Discussion
Nope I need a diff for a manual trans 190D. My 240D already has a manual trans.
-Curt
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:59:38 -0500
From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
meade.m.dil...@navy.mil
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone need a 240D manual transmision or a NA 300D
automatic?
Long stretches at 55mph to get that though right?
A friend has an '80 300SD. He's getting laid off in April and wonders what to
do with the car which needs a glow plug relay but has a good body and interior.
I need to get rid of 1 or two of my cars before I could consider it but my wife
has
Curt Raymond wrote:
Long stretches at 55mph to get that though right?
65-80, whatever I thought I could get away with given the speed limits.
Very little driving above 75.
Mitch.
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Turbo engines run much hotter exhaust valves, and those are the ones
that are loose on my brother's car. Intakes are better, but still
loose.
Less than a quart in 3000 isn't oil consumption! I get about 1000
per quart in mixed driving, 800 on the highway (which is a REAL
pain), but
Walt give me a price for the Manny Tranny shipped to 70805
Russ W
Walt Zarnoch wrote:
Hi all,
I've got 2 transmissions I'll never end up using that are taking up
space, figured I'd offer them up to better homes.
First is a 5 speed manual out of a 240D. Seems to be in good shape but
I've
I have not done any windshields in the past few years, but did a 123
with a gasket from Rusty, no problems. Replaced front, rear and door
gaskets on a 110 Diesel with a kit from the Rust man, again, no
problems. It is nice to have good door and windshield gaskets.
Let's all remember
Yes, good test. Then shut off the engine, and take a mirror and look
at the underside of the water pump. Another method is to get all 4
wheels up on blocks, then crawl under with a small flashlight, and
look for a stream of water.(this can be done with the engine
running. )
The short
You should be able (in an emergency) to open all the locks by using the key
in the hatch. I have had good luck using 100% silicone spray lube. Spray
the key and work it back and forth gradually. The silicone coating on the
lock parts does a good job of preventing freezing up.
Greg Fiorentino
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Yes, for $750 it will be a money pit.
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On Dec 11, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
A well maintained 300K 123 diesel shouldn't be a money pit.
...or sell for $750.
Mitch.
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The driver's side lock on my 1983 300TD ALWAYS clams up when the temp.
drops
below freezing. What is chronically wrong with the lock that it
always does
this?
Water. Flap missing or inoperative over key slot? Water drains
in door clogged making it swampy inside? Missing drip shield that
Curt Raymond wrote:
Its the first thing to try anyway.
Rusty sells it for about $15.
My records show it's part number 900-271-042012
and is applicable for OM616 and OM617 engines with new style,
vertical thermostat, with bypass and snowman seal.
Anybody know the size? I'd rather buy a piece
Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com writes:
Yes, for $750 it will be a money pit.
All depends. On the car, the seller, and your expectations.
A $10,000 car can be a money pit too.
Allan
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I try to not lock the doors when it's going to be significantly below
freezing, after a few too many attempts to use a frozen lock. The cars are
old enough that I don't feel fear of theft (though I know that's not
defensible).
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CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing
OK Don okd...@gmail.com writes:
I try to not lock the doors when it's going to be significantly below
freezing, after a few too many attempts to use a frozen lock. The cars are
old enough that I don't feel fear of theft (though I know that's not
defensible).
I lock my car if there's
Yeah I'm pretty pleased with the consumption. I've been using M1 5w40 in that
car. When I first switched it leaked pretty bad for awhile, a quart in 1,000 or
worse.
I can't wait to get that car back as my daily, my 240D leaks oil bad bad so I
use conventional. With the amount I drive it makes
I dunno, my $400 240D hasn't been a money pit
I mean its a beater in ever sense of the word. If I were trying to bring it up
to perfect condition it'd be very spendy but to use as cheap transportation...
I've got maybe $1500 in it right now and I've put over 9,000 miles on it in the
last
Thanks Phillip!
I'll see what FLAPS has tomorrow.
-Curt
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:24:27 -0600
From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Drive a Hyundai Genesis (made by the same company) and get back to me.
There's a reason why that car, by all reports, has the European luxury makers
quaking in their boots, much as the first Lexus LS did in 1990.
I have examined a Genesis and every last thing about it except that tinfoil
Correction:
MB's new OM 651 4-cylinder turbodiesel produces 204 DIN hp @ 4200 rpm, not
210 as I previously stated. Torque is 500 Nm @ 1600 rpm. Road test fuel
consumption in a GLK was 9.7 L/100km.
RLE
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You need to find the actuator and wire it in the open position.
I have no idea where it so, though -- on the W124 I could help, not
on a W123.
Peter
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Curt Raymond wrote:
ACH! Tom Nooo!
Its Guinness and HARP! Bass is English beer...
-Curt
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:13:31 -0500
From: tom tomscat tomsc...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 49, Issue 67
To: mercedes diesel mercedes@okiebenz.com
my irish roots are not so deep
in some popular dialect hungarian is rendered as ungarish
so the really bad joke that my dad would always tell goes like this:
this guy comes up to him on the street insisting that my dad is irish and he
knows him from the old country. my dad insists it couldn't
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