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Yes you can look it up on line-have to do reverse figure 8's with car to get the new fluid to go into every nook and cranny. Bizarre. https://mbworld.org/forums/glk-class-x204/543256-driving-reverse-figure-8-per-tech-bulletin.html Some 211's had recall on this but mine didn't but these took away t

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On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 16:42:45 -0500 Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote: > Jury is out on my 211- I have had it 14 months. 159K. Had issue with 4 > matic transfer case but dealer fixed it for fluid change and doing > figure 8's. Figure 8s? Craig ___ http://www.ok

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I have a photo we took at the Q but Jaime can show you I think Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 9:25 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Is there a screen that shows his name? That would be _way_ cool! > > I've long lived (designed and built and e

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Is there a screen that shows his name? That would be _way_ cool! I've long lived (designed and built and executed) my projects such that I'm proud to put my signature on it. - Max Charleston SC On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 9:22 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote

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Thats Dwight... I'm proud too :-) On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 9:22 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Thanks Jaime > and I am proud of my 2005 E320 that has your name in the Command system. > > Dwight Giles Jr. > Wickford RI > > On Jan 21, 2018 7:59 PM, "Jaime Kopchinski

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Thanks Jaime and I am proud of my 2005 E320 that has your name in the Command system. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Jan 21, 2018 7:59 PM, "Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I can tell you all from my time on the inside, working for and with R&D and > quality depa

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Jaime‎ sez: (a bunch of‎ really on point stuff...) Thank you for your enlightened commentary. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/

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I can tell you all from my time on the inside, working for and with R&D and quality departments for 15 years, there is still a tremendous focus on quality for the new cars. Of course I can't share any details with anyone, but their quality system is very well designed to ensure an outstanding prod

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All they need to do is last the lease and CPO. Screw the third driver, let alone the fourth. If it makes it to six years without blowing up, that is all for the good. The initial driver has moved to another lease, and the CPO purchaser has enough loyalty to needing to be seen to be flash, tha

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--From: Larry Turner via Mercedes > Date: 2018-01-21 8:55 AM (GMT-06:00) To: > mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Larry Turner Subject: Re: > [MBZ] Major disappointment > Many people don't understand the difference between MBs and other cars. > I had a friend who was look

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But, Larry, the newer examples of DBAG on the road are nothing like the 30 year old cars. They are much more like a Frod or Chebby, or even a korean car. I trolled the PnP yards for years and played with all manner of carcass while there. I could see how the korean car quality increased, while

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beyond me! Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curley McLain via Mercedes Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 11:21 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Curley McLain Subject: Re: [MBZ] Major disappointment The $50,000 to $60,000 peekups wi

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b C. Striplin via Mercedes" < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Cc: "Kaleb C. Striplin" > Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 11:56 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Major disappointment > > > Just from working on some of the newer car

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I'm not sure I'd go bragging about MB quality anymore, especially not the stuff from the early 2000s, the admitted "low quality years". Pretty much any hoopty made today will go 10 years, 200,000 miles. Around here the body will pretty well be done in the 12-15 year range but the engine/transmi

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Overall, I liked my 124 (totaled at 29+ years & 148kmi) better than my 211 (11 years & 82kmi). W - Original Message - From: "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "Kaleb C. Striplin" Sent: Sunday, January 21,

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I think the W210 is a nice transitional model from the earlier, more solid W124/W126/W140 chassis’ cars. It’s not as solid like a W124 is, for sure, but the more modern amenities it has and the reliability certainly are better than the W124. That’s not to say the W124 models weren’t reliable -

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Just from working on some of the newer cars I would guess they will not last as long. Some of the 10 year old cars now I see priced at about half or a 3rd or what a similarly model would have been when the 123 124 126 and 140s were at the same 10 year mark in their life cycle. If that makes sens

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Modern car design goals: Primary concern: the vast majority have to outlive the warranty. Secondary concern: it's good for repeat business if the car outlasts the lease. Reliability for the 4th owner after 250,000 miles isn't really something they care about any more. Mitch. > On January 21,

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That would be my concerns as well. Do modern MBs have the longevity of their legacies, or are they commodities like other marques? -D > On Jan 21, 2018, at 10:13 AM, tyee165 via Mercedes > wrote: > > The quality was built in 40 years ago. Not so sure about the new MB. Will be > many year

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. Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A Original message From: Larry Turner via Mercedes Date: 2018-01-21 8:55 AM (GMT-06:00) To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Larry Turner Subject: Re: [MBZ] Major disappointment Many people don't understand the difference between MBs and other cars. 

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Many people don't understand the difference between MBs and other cars. I had a friend who was looking for a new car - he test drove a new MB and was not impressed. He said a Chev or Ford felt the same way when he tested them. What I could not get him to understand was the difference in qual

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that is just sick. When they wanted $60k for a dissel gran cherokee, I told em they were crazy! For that money, I'd buy a MB. Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes January 20, 2018 at 8:55 AM I was in a new Jeep Grand Cherokee the other day. Sticker price was $92k _

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When we bought our F150XL (~$28k with electric windows, IIRC) the sales manager called the fancy trucks "pretty boy trucks". I'd told him I wanted a working truck to haul stuff, and didn't care what it looked like. We scratched the bed the second day we owned loading/unloading a 60 gal air compress

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$27k XL is a 2wd, its dammed hard to get a 4wd under $30k. To be fair heated seats are pretty terrific when you've been out hunting and are frozen pretty much to the bone. Just before the end of the year I went hunting with a big group, it was in the single digits pretty much the whole time, fro

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. Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A Original message From: Curley McLain via Mercedes Date: 2018-01-20 9:35 AM (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Major disappointment i sure like sub-10k vehicles, and I like 1

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i sure like sub-10k vehicles, and I like 1500 to 2500 cars even better! Spending near 100K on a cheep is NUTS! of course few fools buy them, the lease them Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes January 20, 2018 at 8:55 AM I was in a new Jeep Grand Cherokee the other day.

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I was in a new Jeep Grand Cherokee the other day. Sticker price was $92k Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 20, 2018, at 8:38 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > my point exactly! > > My standard question is "How much Mercedes can I buy for that money?" > except for as simple a van I can

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my point exactly! My standard question is "How much Mercedes can I buy for that money?" except for as simple a van I can find, the question has always led to no sale or buying another old MB. The new MBs have destroyed the resale value and reliability, and the crypsler people destroyed par

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I’m just stunned at the prices on these things, even a base model F150. It’s crazy. -D > On Jan 20, 2018, at 9:18 AM, tyee165 via Mercedes > wrote: > > I would guess that most of the fancy trucks are sold to old men with deep > pockets. They buy a loaded pickup instead of a Cadillac or Lin

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did not need more bells and whistles. Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A Original message From: Curley McLain via Mercedes Date: 2018-01-20 1:21 AM (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Major disappointment The  $

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The $50,000 to $60,000 peekups with all the "luxury" trim/interior such as the frod "platinum" "limited" "SVT Raptor" and "King Ranch" are what I classify as wussywagons. They are not meant for work, but to show off the owners wealth or to stroke the owners ego, or to satisfy the wife whil

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> > Have not needed to move any of those [barriers] lately, It moves cars, too: http://formicapeak.com/~jimc/Mog/Mogcarlift.jpg -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery opt

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Only in your dreams. MG Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: You mean to tell me that a Unimog won't go 80 mph? RB On 19/01/2018 3:59 PM, MG via Mercedes wrote: Especially when those highway speeds are about 50 mph. MG Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: On 18/01/2018 10:48 PM, Curley McLain v

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On 19/01/2018 5:16 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: I still think my wussy pickup truck is better suited to travel than the more macho vehicles out there. But did your pickup truck come with a heavy duty crane that can pick up concrete Jersey Barriers? JimC's Mog did. Mitch. ___

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> I still think my wussy pickup truck it better suited to travel than the > more macho vehicles out there. But did your pickup truck come with a heavy duty crane that can pick up concrete Jersey Barriers? JimC's Mog did. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

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On 19/01/2018 4:54 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Fri, 19 Jan 2018 16:45:33 -0600 Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: You mean to tell me that a Unimog won't go 80 mph? Yes, a Unimog will not go 80 MPH. 50 is about tops. Craig ___ Well, there you go. I

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On Fri, 19 Jan 2018 16:45:33 -0600 Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: > You mean to tell me that a Unimog won't go 80 mph? Yes, a Unimog will not go 80 MPH. 50 is about tops. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/

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You mean to tell me that a Unimog won't go 80 mph? RB On 19/01/2018 3:59 PM, MG via Mercedes wrote: Especially when those highway speeds are about 50 mph. MG Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: On 18/01/2018 10:48 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: Well it should fit the image. Almost all

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Especially when those highway speeds are about 50 mph. MG Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: On 18/01/2018 10:48 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: Well it should fit the image. Almost all the peekups sold in the US are just wussy wagons that sell for 50-$60,000. The wussywagon should be

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The Mercedes Sprinter factory around here is expanding, I vaguely recall something about these things might be built there. --FT On 1/18/18 6:15 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Thats ok, you can still buy one of these: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o77XBO9QHlU On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 2:46 PM,

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On 18/01/2018 10:48 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: Well it should fit the image. Almost all the peekups sold in the US are just wussy wagons that sell for 50-$60,000. The wussywagon should be right in their image. What would you consider to not be a wussywagon? A Unimog? I cannot se

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Well it should fit the image. Almost all the peekups sold in the US are just wussy wagons that sell for 50-$60,000. The wussywagon should be right in their image. Mitch Haley via Mercedes January 18, 2018 at 2:13 PM WHAT? The upscale passenger truck is a distin

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> On January 18, 2018 at 8:41 PM Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Lets try this again: > Thats ok, you can still buy one of these: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o77XBO9QHlU In USA? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archive

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Congratulations Mercedes, you've brought out a 20 year old VW Eurovan... -Curt On Thursday, January 18, 2018, 8:41:31 PM EST, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote: Lets try this again: Thats ok, you can still buy one of these: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o77XBO9QHlU On Thu, Jan 1

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Lets try this again: Thats ok, you can still buy one of these: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o77XBO9QHlU On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 2:46 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > No truck, no camper. > > https://www.amlu.com/2018/01/18/not-coming-soon-mercedes-ben > z-x-cla

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WHAT? The upscale passenger truck is a distinctly US vehicle, in my opinion. Who would make one and sell it elsewhere, but not here? Wait, I know: MBUSA marketing geniuses who don't allow any product that doesn't fit in with their intended brand image. Mitch.

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No truck, no camper. https://www.amlu.com/2018/01/18/not-coming-soon-mercedes-benz-x-class-campers/?utm_source=MailingList&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2018-01-nltr06 --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/