Re: [MBZ] SNOW

2013-01-17 Thread Jim Cathey
No reason to pay attention to the fact that it was rear wheel drive, the kiss of death in snow country for such vehicles. Right. So we get a really nice used Aerostar. All it really needed was some weight in the back. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com F

Re: [MBZ] SNOW

2013-01-18 Thread Dan Penoff
True, but it was still a lousy performing vehicle in the snow even with some weight in the back. The Aerostar was nothing more than a small truck chassis with a minivan body on it. The center of gravity was really high as well, which made it handle poorly. Body roll was a real problem, I though

Re: [MBZ] SNOW

2013-01-18 Thread Dieselhead
True, but it was still a lousy performing vehicle in the snow even with some weight in the back. The Aerostar was nothing more than a small truck chassis with a minivan body on it. The center of gravity was really high as well, which made it handle poorly. Body roll was a real problem, I thoug

Re: [MBZ] SNOW

2013-01-19 Thread Michael Canfield
Chrysler minivans seem light in the rear end to me. Easy to blow unintentional donuts around corners. Throw good tires at them, front and rear, put a little weight in the back and they are awesome in the snow. Mike On Jan 18, 2013 10:47 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > True, but

Re: [MBZ] SNOW

2013-01-19 Thread OK Don
I've never noticed that in the 126,000 miles on our 1997 Grand Voyager. On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Michael Canfield wrote: > Chrysler minivans seem light in the rear end to me. Easy to blow > unintentional donuts around corners. Throw good tires at them, front and > rear, put a little wei

Re: [MBZ] SNOW

2013-01-19 Thread Mitch Haley
OK Don wrote: I've never noticed that in the 126,000 miles on our 1997 Grand Voyager. Only time I did unintentional donuts in a FWD car was when I had two snow tires on my Plymouth Horizon. Both times was accelerating and turning from a stop sign. The car just spun in the middle of the inters

[MBZ] SNOW TIRES

2005-10-04 Thread BillR
Gee .I've not had any problems with them in the past 20 years. Never slid around any of the three [partial] days I had to use the heater in the house. Coral Springs [South Florida] was like that. Did get into some pretty good snow/ice in the frozen wastelands of Indiana, though [-34 one Winter

[MBZ] Snow tires

2005-10-14 Thread BillR
As I will only be in the snow for a couple of weeks for my NH trip this Winter, I'll probably stick to my normal radials. IIRC when I was in the frozen wastelands [Indiana] for several years folks who had to drive in every snow situation [the ambulance drivers I worked with as a ambulance tech] fav

Re: [MBZ] Snow

2006-03-07 Thread RELNGSON
<> Precisely. RLE

[MBZ] snow tires

2006-11-29 Thread Donald Snook
We are having our first snow/ice/freezing rain of the season here in America's Heartland (Kansas) and I am planning to get snow tires. On my most recent prior Mercedes, the snow tires came with the car mounted on a second set of wheels (2 tires not four). Well, I sold that car to OK Don and I am

[MBZ] Snow driving

2008-12-09 Thread Curt Raymond
See that goes along with my other complaint about new vehicles today. My parents have a pair of Jeep Liberties. On those the first 1/4 of throttle pedal is something like 3/4 of total throttle throw... Makes getting started on a snowy hill more work than it should be. I usually end up with one f

[MBZ] Snow tires

2008-12-14 Thread OK Don
Since we're in line to get the ice/snow storm (only 30% chance though), I went to put the snow tires that came with the car from Donald Snook on this afternoon. When I let the first tire down, a LOT of 1" to 2" cracks appeared on the sidewall. Crap - dry rotted tire. Off it came, and on went the

[MBZ] snow reports

2016-01-23 Thread Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes
i'm curious about the snow reports in athens, ga we only received about 1/4 of an inch of snow maybe 7 pm last night my father got about 2 inches in SC, just east of Augusta, GA (and south of us here) i spoke to someone in Greenwich Village NYC and he said it only looked like about 8 inches o

[MBZ] Snow follies

2017-03-03 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
While Dan is working out his AC we're getting a little snow. Angie and I had gone to Keene for game night and on the way back it was pretty slippy. We'd gotten maybe 1/4" of snow but its cold, like 15F so the cars are crushing it into an ice layer. We were driving uphill into a left hand bend wh

Re: [MBZ] SNOW!

2018-11-26 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Nice. I love that when the first storm of the season comes and suddenly no one recalls what it’s like to drive in those conditions -D shoveling sunshine > On Nov 26, 2018, at 10:08 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes > wrote: > > On Saturday, it was beautiful in Kansas. My 7 year old son and I

Re: [MBZ] SNOW!

2018-11-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
It was 70 here on Saturday and around 30 or so Sunday with 40-50mph winds. Very miserable. No ice or snow though. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 26, 2018, at 9:37 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > Nice. > > I love that when the first storm of the season comes and suddenly no one > recalls

Re: [MBZ] SNOW!

2018-11-26 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
In my old age I've grown far more conservative, and strongly insist that my family stay off the road unless it is a dire emergency when we get snow down here in the Low Country. Way too many people who don't have a clue and never had a clue about how to drive in the snow, many many accidents as th

Re: [MBZ] SNOW!

2018-11-26 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
We had the coldest Thanksgiving on record, and then on Saturday another 2" of rain which brings the D.C. yearly total to 60", or 20" above normal. Another 1/3" and we will have shattered the all time record for precipitation. All this rain is NOT good for the Chesapeake Bay oysters... They are al

Re: [MBZ] SNOW!

2018-11-26 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Barrister Snook opines: >It is amazing the morons that still don't know >how to drive. The big issue is all the electronic nannies that do the thinking for you. Folks in newer cars with traction control and such don't know where the limits of traction are. So they exceed the abilities of the na

Re: [MBZ] SNOW!

2018-11-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
That is exactly right Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 26, 2018, at 2:28 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > Barrister Snook opines: > >> It is amazing the morons that still don't know >how to drive. > > The big issue is all the electronic nannies that do the thinking for you. > Folks in

Re: [MBZ] SNOW!

2018-11-26 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
No, it's not the nannies - they couldn't drive before the electronics in cars, and never learned then either. On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 2:29 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Barrister Snook opines: > > >It is amazing the morons that still don't know >how to drive. > > T

Re: [MBZ] SNOW!

2018-11-26 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 26/11/2018 2:28 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: Barrister Snook opines: It is amazing the morons that still don't know >how to drive. The big issue is all the electronic nannies that do the thinking for you. Folks in newer cars with traction control and such don't know where the limits

Re: [MBZ] SNOW!

2018-11-26 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
All too true. Speed limits are ignored, resulting in cars with a wide range of speeds trying to cross the country on the same road at the same time. The drivers who are exceeding the limit are also the ones who cannot handle the car at those speeds. Then you have heavy trucks trying to pass each ot

Re: [MBZ] SNOW!

2018-11-26 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 2:40 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I often wonder why the sides of the road are not littered with wrecked > cars and bodies. > That's because of the efficient clean-up crews: "For 2016 specifically, National Highway Traffic Safety Administ

Re: [MBZ] SNOW!

2018-11-26 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 14:44:24 -0600 OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > All too true. Speed limits are ignored, resulting in cars with a wide > range of speeds trying to cross the country on the same road at the > same time. The drivers who are exceeding the limit are also the ones > who cannot handle th

Re: [MBZ] SNOW!

2018-11-26 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On November 26, 2018 at 4:40 PM Craig via Mercedes > wrote: > > I saw a dash-cam video that showed that situation and a bobtail truck > passing both trucks on the right on the shoulder, moving back into the > right lane and slowing down, forcing the truck in the right lane to slow > down and

Re: [MBZ] SNOW!

2018-11-26 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
butbutbut they have FOUR WHEEL DRIVE! --FT On 11/26/18 11:11 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: In my old age I've grown far more conservative, and strongly insist that my family stay off the road unless it is a dire emergency when we get snow down here in the Low Country. Way too many peop

Re: [MBZ] SNOW!

2018-11-26 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 26/11/2018 3:53 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: butbutbut they have FOUR WHEEL DRIVE! --FT Don't knock it. 4 wheel drive is a wonderful thing in winter. RB in the GWN ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/ar

Re: [MBZ] SNOW!

2018-11-26 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
At camp a couple weeks ago they forecast 6" of snow, we got a solid 8", made the camp road "interesting", this is outbound, about halfway to the main road. https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4886/32089597238_2fab11df2e_b.jpg https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4808/32089597268_65332422cd_b.jpg This is mo

Re: [MBZ] SNOW!

2018-11-26 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Yeahbut, everybody has 4 wheel stop... -CurtDon't drive faster than you can stop or turn... On Monday, November 26, 2018, 5:02:42 PM EST, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: On 26/11/2018 3:53 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: > butbutbut they have FOUR WHEEL DRIVE! > > --FT > Don't

Re: [MBZ] SNOW!

2018-11-26 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: rbenn...@bennell.ca Subject: Re: [MBZ] SNOW! On 26/11/2018 3:53 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: > butbutbut they have FOUR WHEEL DRIVE! > > --FT > Don't knock it. 4 wheel drive is a wonderful thing in winter

Re: [MBZ] SNOW!

2018-11-26 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 26/11/2018 5:06 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: Unless you have limited slip, you have two wheel drive at best. The electronics now a days can control the brakes and send power to the wheel that is not turning though. Rick My truck has the electric locker in the rear differential.

Re: [MBZ] SNOW!

2018-11-26 Thread clay monroe via Mercedes
I would think the oysters would love having the pollution flushed from the bay. At least it dilutes it so they are siphoning less poison. clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net > On Nov 26, 2018, at 12:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > We had the coldest Thanksgiving on record,

Re: [MBZ] SNOW!

2018-11-26 Thread clay monroe via Mercedes
Youngest son learned to drive in the great white north. Gets his papers at 14, but needs two winters under his belt before he gets a license. Not sure he can drive any better than the rest, but at least he could understand winter driving in snow and ice. Biggest danger were the okies and teja

Re: [MBZ] SNOW!

2018-11-26 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 7:26 PM clay monroe via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Biggest danger were the okies and tejanos on the road in Anchorage. > We used to get our fair share ( or more, depending on your point of view) of snow and ice here in OK, but it's been years now since we

Re: [MBZ] SNOW!

2018-11-26 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
So, I take it you are ready to renounce albore and his false theories bases on computer models proven false. Nice you finally admitted it! Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes November 26, 2018 at 2:00 PM We had the coldest Thanksgiving on record, and then on Saturday a

Re: [MBZ] SNOW!

2018-11-26 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
It is because you had daylight savings all summer and thus cut short the necessary heating of the earth crust. Now, the crust is cold and you have a coming ice age... better living through nanny government at it's best.. On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 9:55 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okieben

Re: [MBZ] SNOW!

2018-11-26 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 16:01:44 -0600 Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: > On 26/11/2018 3:53 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: > > butbutbut they have FOUR WHEEL DRIVE! > > > > --FT > > > > Don't knock it. 4 wheel drive is a wonderful thing in winter. When you finally get stuck, you are stuck

Re: [MBZ] SNOW!

2018-11-26 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> > Floyd wrote: > > > > butbutbut they have FOUR WHEEL DRIVE! > Randy wrote: > > Don't knock it. 4 wheel drive is a wonderful thing in winter. I don't think Floyd is saying 4WD is bad - just that the it seems a lot of people seem to think. "The car has 4WD, so I don't have to slow down, or dri

Re: [MBZ] SNOW!

2018-11-27 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Exactly! I used to regularly drive a chunk of I-35 that was relatively straight for quite a few miles, then a gentle curve of 35-40 degrees or so, before it went the other way in a big s. The first snow was quite amusing if you went through about 8 am. There would be maybe 10-30 (2 WD) cars

Re: [MBZ] SNOW!

2018-11-27 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Yep, that's why in the 1980s and 1990s I called them Suddenly Upsidedown Vehicles. I don't know if the drivers are finally better now, or if the unibody/crossover models are harder to flip. Probably the latter after all the hoopla over the capsized Explorers with exploded rear tires and Consume

Re: [MBZ] SNOW!

2018-11-27 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
I drove back from Columbia, SC on Saturday through Atlanta because there was freezing rain predicted in Cherokee -- that stretch of I 40 is quite bad enough in dry, sunny weather when the traffic is heavy, no need to risk trouble. Some rain, but otherwise a nice drive. If I make the trip again,

Re: [MBZ] SNOW!

2018-11-27 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
They've lowered the CG a couple inches in most of them. The drivers are WORSE now. Sitting behind the wheel is time to shave, apply makeup paste, text, read books or newspapers, kindles etc etc. it is not considered important to drive. Let the nanny do that. I don't have to slow down in s

Re: [MBZ] SNOW!

2018-11-27 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
I wonder what would have happened if you called the motor carrier division of the state highway patrol. Mitch. > On November 27, 2018 at 8:09 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > he would go on the shoulder, to the left lane, back to the > shoulder, repeat, repeat. I called the compa

Re: [MBZ] SNOW!

2018-11-27 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Take Briley Parkway near the airport to bypass most of Nashville if you are going up I-24 --FT On 11/27/18 7:56 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: I drove back from Columbia, SC on Saturday through Atlanta because there was freezing rain predicted in Cherokee -- that stretch of I 40 is

Re: [MBZ] SNOW!

2018-11-27 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
the ditch because they ran into some ice. Don Snook -Original Message- From: Rick Knoble [mailto:rickkno...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 2:29 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] SNOW! Barrister Snook opines: >It is amazing the morons that still do

Re: [MBZ] SNOW!

2018-11-27 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
ginal Message- > From: Rick Knoble [mailto:rickkno...@hotmail.com] > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 2:29 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] SNOW! > > Barrister Snook opines: > > >It is amazing the morons that still don't know >how to drive. >

Re: [MBZ] SNOW!

2018-11-27 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
gt;> -Original Message- >> From: Rick Knoble [mailto:rickkno...@hotmail.com] >> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 2:29 PM >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] SNOW! >> >> Barrister Snook opines: >> >>> It is amazing the m

Re: [MBZ] SNOW!

2018-11-27 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 26/11/2018 11:40 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: When you finally get stuck, you are stuck twice as bad as someone with a 2-wheel drive vehicle ... Craig ___ I used to work with a fellow who was an avid outdoorsman. He had a 4 WD Suburban with big tires

Re: [MBZ] SNOW!

2018-11-27 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Unless you're stuck on a treeless Manitoba plain in the middle of nowhere.. On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 11:38 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On 26/11/2018 11:40 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > When you finally get stuck, you are stuck twice as bad as someone wit

Re: [MBZ] SNOW!

2018-11-27 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
That reminds me, a few winters ago I was driving in a snowstorm. It wasn't that bad out, the roads were salted well, I was driving the pickup but in 2wd. In front of me at a stoplight was a Honda SUV, as we pulled away from the light she accelerated hard and then when the road turned slightly to

Re: [MBZ] SNOW!

2018-11-27 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
"You DON'T want to "float" on snow while driving." Onroad anyway. Offroad in really deep snow flotation is your friend. If we'd stayed at camp through the second snow storm a couple weeks ago I'd have aired down to float on the snow better. -Curt On Tuesday, November 27, 2018, 7:13:54 AM ES

Re: [MBZ] SNOW!

2018-11-27 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On November 27, 2018 at 12:00 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > I stopped to help and of course it was all my fault that she had driven off > the road, she claimed it was "so slippery she couldn't stay on the road at > all" and somehow my big truck being behind her had made it wors

Re: [MBZ] SNOW!

2018-11-27 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Hands free phone use is ok. Phone in hand? If coupled with distracted driving (wrong speed, can't stay in lane, failure to yield) or a collision, I'm in favor of increased legal penalties, increased exposure to civil prosecution. Also should be tied to increased insurance costs for a period

Re: [MBZ] SNOW!

2018-11-27 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Most winches go the wrong way, I don't want to get pulled into the hole worse than I am now, I want to get out. Even if I pull through the hole I'll have to turn around and go back... A lot of where we travel theres nothing to winch to, the trees are too small or too far from the road. A couple

Re: [MBZ] SNOW!

2018-11-27 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
When I see people doing this while driving, my first thought is always, “I’ll be sure to have their phone records subpoenaed when I present the case to the court.” -D > On Nov 27, 2018, at 12:43 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Hands free phone use is ok. > > Phone in hand? If co

Re: [MBZ] SNOW!

2018-11-27 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 26/11/2018 11:40 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 16:01:44 -0600 Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: On 26/11/2018 3:53 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: butbutbut they have FOUR WHEEL DRIVE! --FT Don't knock it. 4 wheel drive is a wonderful thing in winter. When you

Re: [MBZ] SNOW!

2018-11-27 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
I didn't have any real issue talking on a phone before hands free became common. The bigger problem is texting. That pretty much requires that one focus on the device rather than the road. It is getting expensive around here if one is caught using the phone without hands free. The fine is now

[MBZ] SNOW prediction

2017-12-30 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Wisconsin snow prediction: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] SNOW TIRES

2005-10-04 Thread Russ Maki
BillR wrote: Gee .I've not had any problems with them in the past 20 years. Never slid around any of the three [partial] days I had to use the heater in the house. How are they in hurricanes?

Re: [MBZ] Snow tires

2005-10-14 Thread Levi Smith
That sounds like good information to me. Generally you're looking for narrower tires to cut through the snow, not ride on top. Taller helps to give you a little more ground clearance, but it throws off the speedo and generally is limited by fender clearance over bumps. As for tread patterns,

Re: [MBZ] Snow tires

2005-10-14 Thread Lee Levitt
Levi, I'm moving from an Audi quattro to a '93 300 turbodiesel, so I've got a similar adjustment to make :) I'm sticking with the Nokians...they've been wonderful tires, and I see no reason to change. The Blizzaks, btw, will change characteristics as they wear...the first layer of tread will give

Re: [MBZ] Snow tires

2005-10-14 Thread Levi Smith
I know what you mean about the tread on the Blizzaks. That's "kind-of" a trade-off. You only get the top 55% of the tread with the good snow compound. (though the new ones have "standard snow tire" tread for the bottom 45%, instead of all-season like the old ones) However, the other factor i

Re: [MBZ] Snow tires

2005-10-14 Thread Russ Maki
Sure, Bill, the standard recommendation for a passenger car is to go with a minus-zero tire for snow, one that's a size narrower and a size higher in aspect ratio, such as 185-75-14 for a W123. I didn't check the size comparison charts, but I think that size would be appropriate.Taller, narrowe

Re: [MBZ] Snow tires

2005-10-14 Thread Lee Levitt
I can't tell you much about pricing on the Nokians. Years ago, Hakkas used to be cheap. Today, they're not...I think I paid about $150 or $160 per tire for a 215/55 16 last year. I do buy from the expensive local shop because they provide lifetime balancing/mounting/etc, so it ends up being less e

Re: [MBZ] Snow tires

2005-10-14 Thread Lee Levitt
Russ writes: > > A new innovation from Nokian is the > introduction of plant oil (!) in the rubber compound > of their Hakkapelliita RSI. It > supposedly sheds moisture -- but I recall one user post > somewhere that they were a little slippery right out of the box. I didn't notice any squirmi

Re: [MBZ] Snow tires

2005-10-15 Thread Robert & Tara Ludwick
I always buy my Nokians from www.meadowcreektire.com in Colorado ( nobody even sells Nokians in My state ) great prices and reasonable on shippping. Usually takes about 2-3 days to get them ( as long as the clowns at the fedex ground terminal don't try to steal them...which happened last time,

Re: [MBZ] snow tires

2006-11-29 Thread Jeff Zedic
Throw 100 kg of kitty litter in the trunk and some snows and you'll be golden! Jeff Zedic Basking in the mild November weather in Toronto Not seen any ice yet! (or snow)

Re: [MBZ] snow tires

2006-11-29 Thread James Zavesky
buy a set of 4 used factory rims off kaleb and a new set of bridgestone blizzaks from tire rack - you'll be fine. that car wil go like a tank in the snow jim - Original Message - From: "Donald Snook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 5:13 P

Re: [MBZ] snow tires

2006-11-29 Thread Marshall Booth
Donald Snook wrote: We are having our first snow/ice/freezing rain of the season here in America's Heartland (Kansas) and I am planning to get snow tires. On my most recent prior Mercedes, the snow tires came with the car mounted on a second set of wheels (2 tires not four). Well, I sold that c

Re: [MBZ] snow tires

2006-11-29 Thread Loren Faeth
A few years ago I was caught in a snowstorm, and after getting tired of the rear end sliding around on Remington tires, I stopped at a tire shop in the town I was in and they had a set of 4 used very little Blizzacks. I put them on the 300SDL, and have been using them each winter since. My SD

Re: [MBZ] snow tires

2006-11-30 Thread OK Don
As I've told you before - you need to find another indie -- I sure wish I had put those snow tires on last night or this morning -- freezing rain is pouring down right now -- and I just got home. I asked him if he had any snow tires. He told me they would not help on my car. He said that the

Re: [MBZ] snow tires

2006-11-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Find a new mechanic. Donald Snook wrote: We are having our first snow/ice/freezing rain of the season here in America's Heartland (Kansas) and I am planning to get snow tires. On my most recent prior Mercedes, the snow tires came with the car mounted on a second set of wheels (2 tires not four

Re: [MBZ] snow tires

2006-11-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
that means its headed this way. Its not freezing raining yet, but its raining pretty good. Im headed to St Louis this weekend. Hope all the crap has passed on by there by then. OK Don wrote: As I've told you before - you need to find another indie -- I sure wish I had put those snow tires

Re: [MBZ] snow tires

2006-11-30 Thread Mike Canfield
vember 29, 2006 6:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] snow tires A few years ago I was caught in a snowstorm, and after getting tired of the rear end sliding around on Remington tires, I stopped at a tire shop in the town I was in and they had a set of 4 used very little Blizzacks. I put them on the 3

Re: [MBZ] snow tires

2006-11-30 Thread Mike Canfield
Holy cowThat guy is a moron. Mike - Original Message - From: "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 8:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] snow tires As I've told you before - you need to find another

Re: [MBZ] snow tires

2006-11-30 Thread OK Don
You're supposed to be at home Sunday afternoon to sell me a set of wheels - On 11/29/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Im headed to St Louis this weekend. Hope all the crap has passed on by there by then. OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "The Americans will always do the right t

Re: [MBZ] snow tires

2006-11-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Thats this Sunday? Crap. Im gone this sunday. You should have come last sunday, or next sunday. OK Don wrote: You're supposed to be at home Sunday afternoon to sell me a set of wheels - On 11/29/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Im headed to St Louis this weekend. Hop

Re: [MBZ] snow tires

2006-11-30 Thread Luther
NOOO, I've already tried to buy rims from Kaleb and he's "out of stock". Grrr, only need 1 for a spare in my SDL. Luthers From: "James Zavesky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 17:21:07 -0500 Reply-to: Mer

Re: [MBZ] snow tires

2006-11-30 Thread Mitch Haley
OK Don wrote: > > As I've told you before - you need to find another indie -- Well, maybe a customer with an SDL complained to him that snow tires didn't prevent him from driving into the ditch. Indy's still a fool for believing it.

Re: [MBZ] snow tires

2006-11-30 Thread Mike Canfield
cedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 6:15 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] snow tires OK Don wrote: As I've told you before - you need to find another indie -- Well, maybe a customer with an SDL complained to him that snow tires didn't prevent him from driving int

Re: [MBZ] snow tires

2006-11-30 Thread andrew strasfogel
car in the snow than all seasons would be. Mike - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 6:15 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] snow tires > > > OK Don wrote: >> >> As

Re: [MBZ] snow tires

2006-11-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Check ebay, a single wheel will show up fairly often. Luther wrote: NOOO, I've already tried to buy rims from Kaleb and he's "out of stock". Grrr, only need 1 for a spare in my SDL. Luthers -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #

Re: [MBZ] snow tires

2006-11-30 Thread Levi Smith
; > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 6:15 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] snow tires > > > > > > > > OK Don wrote: > >> > >> As I've told you before - you need to find another indie -- > > > > Well,

Re: [MBZ] snow tires

2006-11-30 Thread LarryT
Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] snow tires Are Blizzaks expensive? They sound l

Re: [MBZ] snow tires

2006-11-30 Thread Mike Canfield
r 30, 2006 9:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] snow tires Are Blizzaks expensive? They sound like they must be imported from the planet Zarkon. On 11/30/06, Mike Canfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: More of a fool for passing it on.Any mechanic worth thier shorts would know better than th

Re: [MBZ] snow tires

2006-11-30 Thread Loren Faeth
y the best there is.Second only maybe to Nokian Hakkapelitta's. They make a world of difference over all seasons. Mike - Original Message - From: "Loren Faeth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 6:52 PM Su

Re: [MBZ] snow tires

2006-11-30 Thread Levi Smith
are nearly the best there is.Second only maybe to Nokian >Hakkapelitta's. > >They make a world of difference over all seasons. > >Mike >- Original Message - >From: "Loren Faeth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Mercedes Discussion List" >

Re: [MBZ] snow tires

2006-11-30 Thread ned kleinhenz
Nokians seem to be more expensive than Blizzaks. In recent prices I've seen, before shipping, mounting balancing ect, Nokians cost ~ $100 to $120. Blizzaks seem to be in the $70 to $85 range. I'll share the following information, with the careat that it is what I learned 8 years ago and the curre

Re: [MBZ] snow tires

2006-11-30 Thread Jeff Zedic
The nokians will last 4-5 years hereas the Blizzaks will be great for 1-2 and then decline. I sold them for 10 years. Get the Hakkas! (unless you plan on selling th car sooner) Jeff Zedic Toronto

Re: [MBZ] snow tires

2006-11-30 Thread OK Don
Bear in mind that us Okie's can barely spell snow, much less know how to use the tires appropriate for driving in it. Do I take it that you Northerners put the snow tires on in the late fall, and leave them on till the flowers come up in the spring? On 11/30/06, Jeff Zedic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro

Re: [MBZ] snow tires

2006-11-30 Thread Levi Smith
Yeah, here in NY, I've heard Thanksgiving to Easter as a basic reference point. That said we have yet to see any real snow so far this year. They're talking about maybe this weekend though... Levi On 11/30/06, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Bear in mind that us Okie's can barely spell snow

Re: [MBZ] snow tires

2006-11-30 Thread Jeff Zedic
Keep in mind that we're lucky here in Toronto. They get MUCH worse snow to the south of us in uptate NYMUCH WORSE! They get lake effect snowfall and we get the warmth from the lakes instead!! hahaha...suckers! I see a few cars with snows on, but mostly people wait until the first snowfall

Re: [MBZ] snow tires

2006-12-23 Thread Mnetzky1
In a message dated 11/29/2006 5:26:05 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Four Blizzaks on my 83 300D are super on ice or snow. I used to put 200 lbs of roofing shingles in my trunk for the winter, but with the Blizzaks and no extra weight it is m

Re: [MBZ] snow tires

2006-12-23 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 21:24:31 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 11/29/2006 5:26:05 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Mercedes@okiebenz.com > > > Four Blizzaks on my 83 300D are super on ice or snow. I used to put > 200 lbs of roofing shingles in

Re: [MBZ] Snow tires

2008-12-09 Thread Curt Raymond
ny substantive data. -Curt Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 11:04:14 -0500 From: "Allan Streib" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [MBZ] Snow tires (was: Cerberus wants money back) To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&

Re: [MBZ] Snow tires

2008-12-09 Thread R A Bennell
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snow tires Sheesh, thats like an oil thread question. I've got some nice Coopers on my 240D (courtesy Dwight). My 190D has some cheapies from Tire Warehouse. Both are far better in the snow than any all seasons I've had. I've heard really good things about Bli

Re: [MBZ] Snow tires

2008-12-09 Thread Allan Streib
really good things about Blizzaks but can't give any > substantive data. > > -Curt > > Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 11:04:14 -0500 > From: "Allan Streib" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [MBZ] Snow tires (was: Cerberus wants money back) > To: "Merced

Re: [MBZ] Snow tires

2008-12-09 Thread Mitch Haley
Allan Streib wrote: Of course the tire places tell you to buy 4 snow tires -- I recall my Dad always just put them on the drive (rear) wheels. I can see that putting them on the fronts could help with stopping/steering, but not really with getting under way or climbing hills. You stop and stee

Re: [MBZ] Snow tires

2008-12-09 Thread Gary Hurst
that sad part is that i look back with nostalgia at the mid 80s chryslers On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Allan Streib wrote: > >> Of course the tire places tell you to buy 4 snow tires -- I recall my >> Dad always just put them on the drive (rear) wheels.

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