Re: [Knowledge Base] First coherent release

2001-10-11 Thread Drew Taylor
I've run into a WEIRD problem that I think is ActivePerl related. I've installed the PerlKB modules and added some debugging code to PerlKB::Store.pm. The short story is that I have to shift TWICE to get rid of the PerlKB::Store! This is with the latest ActivePerl which I just installed

Re: ANN/RFC: Apache::Session::Generate variants

2001-10-11 Thread Tatsuhiko Miyagawa
On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 01:06:33 -0500 (CDT) Dave Rolsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff, if you're still maintaining this package it'd be nice to put out a new release. If not, it'd be good to give it to someone else. Hell, I'll volunteer if no one more interested comes along. I don't have any

Re: [Knowledge Base] First coherent release

2001-10-11 Thread Jim Smith
On Thu, Oct 11, 2001 at 02:53:09AM -0400, Drew Taylor wrote: I've run into a WEIRD problem that I think is ActivePerl related. I've installed the PerlKB modules and added some debugging code to PerlKB::Store.pm. The short story is that I have to shift TWICE to get rid of the PerlKB::Store!

Apache::Registry caching of compiled scripts

2001-10-11 Thread Nicholas Oxhøj
Hi Does anybody know why Apache::Registry caches compiled scripts by their URI, instead of by their absolute path? At my site we have quite a lot of virtual hosts, which use the same base of cgi scripts. This causes the same scripts to be compiled and cached several times (one time for each

Re: Problem with Apache-request

2001-10-11 Thread Issac Goldstand
Try doing my $r=Apache::Request-new($r); Issac Internet is a wonderful mechanism for making a fool of yourself in front of a very large audience. --Anonymous Moving the mouse won't get you into trouble... Clicking it might. --Anonymous PGP Key 0xE0FA561B - Fingerprint: 7E18 C018 D623

Re: Problem with Apache-request

2001-10-11 Thread Chris Strom
Are you running login.pl under Apache::Registry? If not, something like the following should work: Alias /perl/ /home/httpd/perl/ PerlModule Apache::Registry Location /perl SetHandler perl-script PerlHandler Apache::Registry Options ExecCGI /Location Then put your login.pl

Re: Apache::Registry caching of compiled scripts

2001-10-11 Thread darren chamberlain
Nicholas Oxhj [EMAIL PROTECTED] said something to this effect on 10/11/2001: Does anybody know why Apache::Registry caches compiled scripts by their URI, instead of by their absolute path? Try Apache::RegistryNG, which caches scripts by their filename. (darren) -- Premature optimization is

Re: Problem with Apache-request

2001-10-11 Thread Perrin Harkins
Try doing my $r=Apache::Request-new($r); You're confusing Apache::Request with Apache-request(), which is easy to do. Apache::Request is a different class, which is part of the libapreq distribution. Apache-request() returns the current request object (commonly called $r). - Perrin

EmbPerl for ActivePerl Distribution

2001-10-11 Thread Grant Babb
all- don't even start with me about using win2K: sometimes (make that ALL the times) you don't get to make those kind of decisions. i loaded Apache and mod_perl onto a win2k box with ActivePerl. everything compiled and started without errors, thanks to the magical binaries of Mr Kobes and

Re: [Knowledge Base] First coherent release

2001-10-11 Thread Drew Taylor
I feel a little stupid now that I actually read up on tying hashes. Had I read Ch 14 of the Camel #3, I might have phrased my question in a better way so as to not illuminate my inexperience with tying variables. :-) I assume that the reason I get the Can't locate the render_format method is

Off-topic - Apache Config - Load crises

2001-10-11 Thread Rafiq Ismail
I know this is a bit off topic, but I could use some immediate advise on server config? Got a server which is getting hit really bad. Have to keep it up. I've got: P Timeout 300 # Keepalive, better on this server... KeepAlive On MaxKeepAliveRequests100 KeepAliveTimeout

Re: EmbPerl for ActivePerl Distribution

2001-10-11 Thread Randy Kobes
On Thu, 11 Oct 2001, Grant Babb wrote: all- don't even start with me about using win2K: sometimes (make that ALL the times) you don't get to make those kind of decisions. i loaded Apache and mod_perl onto a win2k box with ActivePerl. everything compiled and started without errors, thanks

Re: [Knowledge Base] First coherent release

2001-10-11 Thread Jim Smith
On Thu, Oct 11, 2001 at 11:25:43AM -0400, Drew Taylor wrote: I feel a little stupid now that I actually read up on tying hashes. Had I read Ch 14 of the Camel #3, I might have phrased my question in a better way so as to not illuminate my inexperience with tying variables. :-) n/p :) I

Re: [Knowledge Base] First coherent release

2001-10-11 Thread Drew Taylor
At 11:45 AM 10/11/01 -0500, Jim Smith wrote: On Thu, Oct 11, 2001 at 11:25:43AM -0400, Drew Taylor wrote: I assume that the reason I get the Can't locate the render_format method is because you're not actually storing any objects yet? Not sure. It should be able to see it. Can you give

Re: Off-topic - Apache Config - Load crises

2001-10-11 Thread Jim Cox
Your problem may be a network problem, not Apache/Mod_perl. Check with your upstream provider and have them do a bandwidth analysis. Here is why. I've strobed your network and the return time latency seems to be high. It would appear that you have about a 28 ms latency overhead in/out of

Re: EmbPerl for ActivePerl Distribution

2001-10-11 Thread Gerald Richter
We have an HTML::Embperl ppm package (and also Apache::ASP and HTML::Mason) at http://theoryx5.uwinnipeg.ca/ppmpackages/ which you can install via the ppm utility in the same way that the mod_perl package is installed from this location. And everthing could be found in Embperl's

Re: Off-topic - Apache Config - Load crises

2001-10-11 Thread Robert Landrum
I know this is a bit off topic, but I could use some immediate advise on server config? Got a server which is getting hit really bad. Have to keep it up. I've got: P Timeout 300 # Keepalive, better on this server... KeepAlive On MaxKeepAliveRequests100 KeepAliveTimeout

Re: Off-topic - Apache Config - Load crises

2001-10-11 Thread Perrin Harkins
Got a server which is getting hit really bad. Have to keep it up. You didn't really give us enough information to guess at what your problem is. You describe one symptom in this message: slow ping times. What else is wrong? Are pages loading slowly? Failing to load? What applications are

Re: Off-topic - Apache Config - Load crises

2001-10-11 Thread Stephen Reppucci
I agree with the response that you need to do some statistics gathering to try to accurately isolate the cause of your problems. I *don't* agree with the other suggestion that was made to UP the keepalive to 15-20 seconds (the default that apache comes with is 5, IIRC). Here's why: Assuming

Re: Apache::Gallery

2001-10-11 Thread Ken Williams
Michael, Yeah, you can put it in the Apache namespace if it's mod_perl-dependent. That's what it's there for. =) The name Apache::Gallery seems decent. Michael Legart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Apache::Gallery is a picture gallery implemented as a mod_perl handler, using libgd2 for

Re: OT: secure mod_perl enabled apache on MacOSX 10.1

2001-10-11 Thread Ken Williams
Joe, The problem is that Apple has made some strange changes to the way shared libraries are linked. I'm not very conversant in the details, but there are some people on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list that have discussed it. Unfortunately, Apache::Request and Apache::Cookie don't define any

Re: [VERY OT] What hourly rate to charge for programming?

2001-10-11 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Gunther Birznieks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: America is richer than Australia. Yeah, but the food's better in Oz. Still, the beer sucks in both ;-) -- David Hodgkinson, Wizard for Hirehttp://www.davehodgkinson.com Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star

Re: [VERY OT] What hourly rate to charge for programming?

2001-10-11 Thread Chris Devers
On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To: Gunther Birznieks [EMAIL PROTECTED], Still, the beer sucks in both ;-) That's because it's stale piss, I'm sure the beer glasses are pissed in to save money ;-) Heck, the beer is so bad nobody can possibly tell the difference anyway.

Re: [VERY OT] What hourly rate to charge for programming?

2001-10-11 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Chris Devers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ahh, you have Budweiser in Australia too, then? ;) Worse: Fosters. -- David Hodgkinson, Wizard for Hirehttp://www.davehodgkinson.com Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com All the Purple Family Tree news

Re: Off-topic - Apache Config - Load crises

2001-10-11 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Rafiq Ismail [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: iv) Something else? Two tier Apache. Increase shareability. Read the guide. -- David Hodgkinson, Wizard for Hirehttp://www.davehodgkinson.com Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com All the Purple Family

Apache::Session 1.54 released

2001-10-11 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker
Apache::Session 1.54, also know as the you impatient bastards release, has been uploaded to CPAN. Changes in this release include: Fix ID validation in Flex Move from MD5 to Digest::MD5 Include new generators ModUniqueId and ModUsertrack -jwb

Re: [Knowledge Base] First coherent release

2001-10-11 Thread Jim Smith
On Thu, Oct 11, 2001 at 01:05:17PM -0400, Drew Taylor wrote: At 11:45 AM 10/11/01 -0500, Jim Smith wrote: On Thu, Oct 11, 2001 at 11:25:43AM -0400, Drew Taylor wrote: I assume that the reason I get the Can't locate the render_format method is because you're not actually storing any

PerlModule not updating %INC

2001-10-11 Thread David Pisoni
Hello, We are using perl 5.6.0 for Apache 1.3/20, with mod_perl 1.26. We are running these on a RedHat Linux 7.1, kernel v2.4.2 system. We have been doing development using mod_perl, but finding that Apache::StatINC was not working as expected (i.e., we needed to restart the web server in

Re: ANN/RFC: Apache::Session::Generate variants

2001-10-11 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Thu, 11 Oct 2001, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote: Well, you guys are touchy lot! My releases are no less frequent than releases of DBI or even mod_perl. So just chill out, I sometimes have other things on my mind. I don't know about touchy so much as frustrated. Apache::Session is very widely

Re: ANN/RFC: Apache::Session::Generate variants

2001-10-11 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker
On Thu, 11 Oct 2001, Dave Rolsky wrote: On Thu, 11 Oct 2001, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote: Well, you guys are touchy lot! My releases are no less frequent than releases of DBI or even mod_perl. So just chill out, I sometimes have other things on my mind. I don't know about touchy so much

[OT] Off Topic?

2001-10-11 Thread George Sanderson
Is there anything special about putting things, like, [OT] in the subject line, other than being informative? The reason I ask, is that I would like to send [OT] messages to the most appropriate list. Is there a reference that provides a list of lists for apache.org that can be used to direct

Re: PerlModule not updating %INC

2001-10-11 Thread Perrin Harkins
We are using perl 5.6.0 for Apache 1.3/20, with mod_perl 1.26. Are you sure? There was a problem with %INC and PerlModule, but I thought it was fixed in 1.26. - Perrin

[OT] Overridding a module's use of a function

2001-10-11 Thread George Sanderson
I discovered that File::NCopy uses the function glob to expand file names. My problem is that I need to pass file names that have spaces in them and glob does not process them. So I did the following override (I do not need to expand the file names): package Apache::AAM; . . . package

Re: PerlModule not updating %INC

2001-10-11 Thread David Pisoni
At 18.07 -0400 10/11/2001, Perrin Harkins wrote: We are using perl 5.6.0 for Apache 1.3/20, with mod_perl 1.26. Are you sure? There was a problem with %INC and PerlModule, but I thought it was fixed in 1.26. - Perrin Indeed, like I said, I tested it by dumping %INC myself -- the modules are

Re: PerlModule not updating %INC

2001-10-11 Thread Perrin Harkins
At 18.07 -0400 10/11/2001, Perrin Harkins wrote: We are using perl 5.6.0 for Apache 1.3/20, with mod_perl 1.26. Are you sure? There was a problem with %INC and PerlModule, but I thought it was fixed in 1.26. - Perrin Indeed, like I said, I tested it by dumping %INC myself -- the

Re: [OT] Overridding a module's use of a function

2001-10-11 Thread Robert Landrum
At 5:15 PM -0500 10/11/01, George Sanderson wrote: I discovered that File::NCopy uses the function glob to expand file names. My problem is that I need to pass file names that have spaces in them and glob does not process them. So I did the following override (I do not need to expand the file

Re: PerlModule not updating %INC

2001-10-11 Thread David Pisoni
At 18.23 -0400 10/11/2001, Perrin Harkins wrote: At 18.07 -0400 10/11/2001, Perrin Harkins wrote: We are using perl 5.6.0 for Apache 1.3/20, with mod_perl 1.26. Are you sure? There was a problem with %INC and PerlModule, but I thought it was fixed in 1.26. - Perrin Indeed, like I

Re: [OT] Overridding a module's use of a function

2001-10-11 Thread Drew Taylor
It's funny you should ask, because I just finished reading that section today! :-) On pg 306-7 of the Camel (3rd edition): *CORE::GLOBAL::glob = sub { my $pat = shift; my @got; # do whatever return @got; } will override a built-in function everywhere, regardless of

Re: [OT] Off Topic?

2001-10-11 Thread Perrin Harkins
Is there anything special about putting things, like, [OT] in the subject line, other than being informative? No, but it does allow people to use automatic mail filters to ignore OT messages. Is there a reference that provides a list of lists for apache.org that can be used to direct the

Re: [OT] Off Topic?

2001-10-11 Thread Ged Haywood
Hi George, On Thu, 11 Oct 2001, George Sanderson wrote: Is there anything special about putting things, like, [OT] in the subject line, other than being informative? See attached. 73, Ged. This document is named admin.txt. Introduction to The mod_perl Mailing List

apache::dbi vs mysql relay

2001-10-11 Thread greg
Hello, Are there any benchmark comparisons between apache::dbi and mysql relay? We're planning on having four sql servers, one of them will do all of the writes to the db and the other three will only be used for reads from the db. The data in the db that is doing the writing will be

Re: apache::dbi vs mysql relay

2001-10-11 Thread Perrin Harkins
Are there any benchmark comparisons between apache::dbi and mysql relay? I've never heard of this mysql relay before. A Google search found this: http://www.firstworks.com/sqlrelay.html Is that it? Looks interesting! We're planning on having four sql servers, one of them will do all of

cvs commit: modperl-2.0/src/modules/perl modperl_config.h

2001-10-11 Thread dougm
dougm 01/10/11 08:38:23 Modified:src/modules/perl modperl_config.h Log: add MP_dTHX macro Revision ChangesPath 1.28 +10 -0 modperl-2.0/src/modules/perl/modperl_config.h Index: modperl_config.h

Re: perl.apache.org / apache.perl.org

2001-10-11 Thread brian moseley
On Sun, 7 Oct 2001, Stas Bekman wrote: can you please post the URL again? thanks! http://thisishomemade.com/for/modperl/site/ like he said before, it's really just a reorganization of the available information, rather than a complete site architecture with fancy rollover navigation, huge menu

Re: perl.apache.org / apache.perl.org

2001-10-11 Thread brian moseley
On Sun, 7 Oct 2001, Stas Bekman wrote: We have had two new designs worked out long time ago, but one has been picked by take23.org and the other wasn't applied. (hi brian) :( sorry! i have this tendency to bite off more than i can chew. i have 10 projects and none of them will ever be

cvs commit: modperl-2.0/lib/Apache Build.pm

2001-10-11 Thread dougm
dougm 01/10/11 12:32:43 Modified:lib/Apache Build.pm Log: fixup ldopts for hpux Revision ChangesPath 1.48 +8 -0 modperl-2.0/lib/Apache/Build.pm Index: Build.pm === RCS file:

cvs commit: modperl-2.0 Makefile.PL

2001-10-11 Thread dougm
dougm 01/10/11 12:48:08 Modified:.Makefile.PL Log: add os specific sanity checks starting with hpux Revision ChangesPath 1.43 +19 -0 modperl-2.0/Makefile.PL Index: Makefile.PL ===

Re: perl.apache.org / apache.perl.org

2001-10-11 Thread Nathan Torkington
Stas Bekman writes: Everything is under CVS, and if somebody wants to come and give a hand to redo the site, there is no problem to give a cvs access to this person. I'll chew on a new layout and give you something by the end of the week. Thanks, Nat

cvs commit: modperl-2.0/lib/Apache Build.pm

2001-10-11 Thread dougm
dougm 01/10/11 17:23:51 Modified:lib/Apache Build.pm Log: fixup hpux cflags Revision ChangesPath 1.49 +16 -1 modperl-2.0/lib/Apache/Build.pm Index: Build.pm === RCS file: