Apache crashing on mod_perl installation.

2001-12-10 Thread Titus Brown
Hi all, I'm having a frustrating time with mod_perl... Configuration: -- apache 1.3.22 -- mod_perl 1.26 Static configuration installation all goes fine, and when I run httpd (w/o modification, off of a straight install) the child pids crash when loading /. (Loading

Re: Apache crashing on mod_perl installation.

2001-12-10 Thread Ged Haywood
Hi there, On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, Titus Brown wrote: When I do a gdb on the resulting core dump, I find that it's crashing in perl_handler(). Any ideas? See modperl/SUPPORT 73, Ged.

Re: ErrorDocument 401 problem..

2001-12-10 Thread Richard L. Goerwitz III
DJ (David J Radunz) wrote: I have written a perl module called Apache::ErrorControl which I am using to control the output of error messages from the server, and allow my users to have custom error pages etc... You might want to re-think how you have this set up. I don't know how

[OT] eval

2001-12-10 Thread Jon Molin
hi list, I know this is OT but i don't know what list i should ask this on so i give it a shot here. If you're very annoyed with this mail me private with a list should use. I'm trying to use eval () with a constants module and it works very funny, can anyone explain this behavior to me: i

HTML forms and piplining templating systems

2001-12-10 Thread Richard L. Goerwitz III
I've been using Embperl happily for several years now, and the only real drawback I've seen to it was (until recently) that it lacked a mechanism for doing inheritance/cascading. EmbPerlObject seems to remedy this deficiency. I've been hearing lots about AxKit lately. I'm curious about one

RE: HTML forms and piplining templating systems

2001-12-10 Thread Matt Sergeant
I tend to use PerForm for complex forms: http://theoryx5.uwinnipeg.ca/CPAN/data/AxKit-XSP-PerForm/PerForm.html Others write custom taglibs: http://theoryx5.uwinnipeg.ca/CPAN/data/AxKit/Apache/AxKit/Language/XSP/Tagli bHelper.html The general idea is that the output is an abstract

Re: HTML forms and piplining templating systems

2001-12-10 Thread Richard L. Goerwitz III
Matt Sergeant wrote: But then if you're happy with EmbPerl, why switch? A couple of reasons, really: 1) well, I actually wouldn't switch per se; people think in different ways, and it's often useful to support (and feel comfortable with) different development paradigms 2)

RE: HTML forms and piplining templating systems

2001-12-10 Thread Matt Sergeant
-Original Message- From: Richard L. Goerwitz III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Is AxKit the best of the pipelining breed, though? (I personally am finding XML to be a ghastly, ugly thing; it all started with namespaces, which are implemented via attributes in a horribly kludgy way -

Re: [OT] eval

2001-12-10 Thread Stas Bekman
Jon Molin wrote: hi list, I know this is OT but i don't know what list i should ask this on so i give it a shot here. If you're very annoyed with this mail me private with a list should use. Jon, if you need help finding a place where to ask for Perl help, just say so. Here you go:

Preloading Fcntl.pm

2001-12-10 Thread Andrew Green
I'm trying to use a startup script to preload a selection of common modules, but am having massive problems with Fcntl. If I use Fcntl (); either in the startup script directly or (worse) in any other modules I try to preload, Apache dies silently and immediately upon restart. Checking the

Re: Preloading Fcntl.pm

2001-12-10 Thread Robin Berjon
On Monday 10 December 2001 16:21, Andrew Green wrote: I'm trying to use a startup script to preload a selection of common modules, but am having massive problems with Fcntl. If I use Fcntl (); either in the startup script directly or (worse) in any other modules I try to preload, Apache dies

submit-data and chained handlers

2001-12-10 Thread Gerald Menzel
Hi, I have two stacked content handlers in a pipeline. At first Apache::Registry and as the second my own handler for parsing Apache::Registry's output of ordinary Perl scripts. Works fine. But I want to catch everything that passes in or out Apache::Registry - also the data of submit-forms sent

Re: submit-data and chained handlers

2001-12-10 Thread Perrin Harkins
e.g. $r-read($in,$r-header_in('Content-length')); or $in=$r-content(); give's my handler the data, but unfotunately exclusive - so the data don't reaches Apache::Registry and the cgi-script. Any suggests? Apache::RequestNotes. - Perrin

Re: Preloading Fcntl.pm

2001-12-10 Thread Andrew Green
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Robin Berjon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you tried to see if it works without the trailing () ? I have, yes, and I'm afraid it makes no difference. Thanks anyway, Andrew. -- :: article seven Andrew Green automatic

Re: HTML forms and piplining templating systems

2001-12-10 Thread Gerald Richter
But then if you're happy with EmbPerl, why switch? A couple of reasons, really: 1) well, I actually wouldn't switch per se; people think in different ways, and it's often useful to support (and feel comfortable with) different development paradigms Embperl 2.0 (starting

Re: Installation and tests for an application?

2001-12-10 Thread Per Einar
Hi Stas, thanks for your reply. At 03:54 10/12/01, Stas Bekman wrote: You want to start from this doc: http://world.std.com/~swmcd/steven/perl/module_mechanics.html Yes, I have already checked out that one. A great resource. I think it would be good for mod_perl to have some documentation

Re: Preloading Fcntl.pm

2001-12-10 Thread Stas Bekman
Andrew Green wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Robin Berjon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you tried to see if it works without the trailing () ? I have, yes, and I'm afraid it makes no difference. Try to call: require Fcntl; instead. I think the general advise is to always

Re: HTML forms and piplining templating systems

2001-12-10 Thread Perrin Harkins
I'm curious about one thing: How easy is it to do fill-out forms with pipelining templating systems like AxKit? I'd think that in such cases the stylesheet would have to do so much work that it would become, in essence, like a CGI script. Can you explain what work you're talking about

Re: Installation and tests for an application?

2001-12-10 Thread Stas Bekman
Per, This seems to be a very generic Perl issue, like most of the questions in this email. I don't see why anything should be special under mod_perl, regarding the packaging and stuff. Apache::Test is probably the only issue that has a lot to do with mod_perl :) I'm sorry for

Re: ErrorDocument 401 problem..

2001-12-10 Thread DJ \(David J Radunz\)
Greetings, How i expected the ErrorDocument directive to behave was as follows: WHEN there was an error 401 (ie the user had logged in 3 times and failed) there would be an error page shown (in this case it would be /error/401). But instead what seems to be happening as soon as a user goes

Re: ErrorDocument 401 problem..

2001-12-10 Thread Richard L. Goerwitz III
DJ (David J Radunz) wrote: How i expected the ErrorDocument directive to behave was as follows: WHEN there was an error 401 (ie the user had logged in 3 times and failed) there would be an error page shown (in this case it would be /error/401). The issue of how many tries the user gets

ANNOUNCE LaBrea::Tarpit-0.02

2001-12-10 Thread Michael
Your input is solicited. A few months ago, Tom Liston released a nice little worm/scanner detection daemon. His web site also has some nice cgi output of the log information from the daemon. On my site, the sys logger runs wild with LaBrea running, but there is really not all that much

Re: Apache crashing on mod_perl installation.

2001-12-10 Thread Titus Brown
- When I do a gdb on the resulting core dump, I find that it's crashing in - perl_handler(). - - Any ideas? - - See modperl/SUPPORT OK, apache 1.3.22 mod_perl 1.26 Output of 'perl -V' attached. I configured Apache with: % ./configure --prefix=~/software/try2/ap-install then ran 'perl

Re: ErrorDocument 401 problem..

2001-12-10 Thread DJ \(David J Radunz\)
before i uncomment the #ErrorDocument 401 /error/401 line i get: [root@astroboy ErrorControl]# GET -s -d http://www.chingali.com/ClientLogin Enter username for CHINGALIwebstudios: Client Login Access at www.chingali.com:80: DJ Password: afterwards i get: [root@astroboy ErrorControl]# GET -s -d

Auth Handlers

2001-12-10 Thread Stathy Touloumis
I seem to be unable to get my authentication/authorization handler to be called correctly. I have tried numerous directives and it seems to always get passed to the standard apache 'authentication' module. I receive this error : [Mon Dec 10 13:09:35 2001] [crit] [client 192.168.6.59]

Re: ErrorDocument 401 problem..

2001-12-10 Thread DJ \(David J Radunz\)
HaHa! i found some doccumentation on exactly what i needed : http://perl.apache.org/faq/#so%20how%20do%20i%20use%20mod_perl%20in%20conjun ction%20with%20errordocument which basically told me to add this bit of code at the top of my module: $r-content_type('text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1');

Re: Apache crashing on mod_perl installation.

2001-12-10 Thread Ged Haywood
Hi again, On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, Titus Brown wrote: EXTRA_CFLAGS1=`$(SRCDIR)/apaci` EXTRA_LIBS=`perl -MExtUtils::Embed -e ldopts` EXTRA_CFLAGS=$(EXTRA_CFLAGS1) `perl -MExtUtils::Embed -e ccopts` H. Have you tried building without all this messing about with the Makefile? did make make

Re: Auth Handlers

2001-12-10 Thread Ged Haywood
Hi there, On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, Stathy Touloumis wrote: error : [Mon Dec 10 13:09:35 2001] [crit] [client 192.168.6.59] configuration error: couldn't check user. No user file?: /index.html Send the config? 73, Ged.

RE: Auth Handlers

2001-12-10 Thread Stathy Touloumis
Directory /home/stathy/apache/html AuthName Login AuthType Base::Session::Handler require valid-user PerlAuthenHandler Base::Session::Handler /Directory Send the config?

Perl-status shows 1 Mb for File::Find!

2001-12-10 Thread Vsevolod Ilyushchenko
Hi, I looked at Memory Usage at my perl-status page and was horrified: the biggest modules are: File::Find 1205208 bytes | 2597 OPs Convert::ASN1::parser1058185 bytes | 3069 OPs However, if I go inside File::Find, I can't figure out

Re: Perl-status shows 1 Mb for File::Find!

2001-12-10 Thread Perrin Harkins
I looked at Memory Usage at my perl-status page and was horrified: the biggest modules are: File::Find 1205208 bytes | 2597 OPs Convert::ASN1::parser1058185 bytes | 3069 OPs However, if I go inside File::Find, I can't figure out

Re: Apache crashing on mod_perl installation.

2001-12-10 Thread Titus Brown
- EXTRA_CFLAGS1=`$(SRCDIR)/apaci` - EXTRA_LIBS=`perl -MExtUtils::Embed -e ldopts` - EXTRA_CFLAGS=$(EXTRA_CFLAGS1) `perl -MExtUtils::Embed -e ccopts` - - H. Have you tried building without all this messing about with - the Makefile? Bear in mind these are in the instructions for

Re: Doing Authorization using mod_perl from a programmersperspective

2001-12-10 Thread Jon Robison
To insert a new comment on this old item: What about sockets? I am in the middle of trying to use $c = $r-connection and $c-remote_addr as part of the cookie name. (So far I am having trouble with the fact that remote_addr returns packed info, and I am still searching for how to unpack it - if

Re: Doing Authorization using mod_perl from a programmersperspective

2001-12-10 Thread Daniel Little
From: Jon Robison [EMAIL PROTECTED] What about sockets? I am in the middle of trying to use $c = $r-connection and $c-remote_addr as part of the cookie name. (So far I am having trouble with the fact that remote_addr returns packed info, and I am still searching for how to unpack it - if

Re: Perl-status shows 1 Mb for File::Find!

2001-12-10 Thread Vsevolod Ilyushchenko
Perrin Harkins wrote: I looked at Memory Usage at my perl-status page and was horrified: the biggest modules are: File::Find 1205208 bytes | 2597 OPs Convert::ASN1::parser1058185 bytes | 3069 OPs However, if I go inside

Re: Doing Authorization using mod_perl from aprogrammersperspective

2001-12-10 Thread David Young
I would still say this is dangerous. There is no guarantee that the same client will use the same IP and/or socket every time. Think about the thousands of AOL users behind hundreds of proxies. There is no consistency. Even with 10 users behind one NAT firewall I bet you'll have problems. From:

Re: Preloading Fcntl.pm

2001-12-10 Thread Jorge Godoy
Stas Bekman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think the general advise is to always call require() and not use() in startup.pl, unless you have a reason for calling certain modules' import() method. Wouldn't that affect mod_perl's advantage of sharing the modules? I mean, would everything be in

Re: Perl-status shows 1 Mb for File::Find!

2001-12-10 Thread Paul Lindner
On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 06:27:07PM -0500, Vsevolod Ilyushchenko wrote: Perrin Harkins wrote: I looked at Memory Usage at my perl-status page and was horrified: the biggest modules are: File::Find 1205208 bytes | 2597 OPs

RE: ErrorDocument 401 problem..

2001-12-10 Thread Rob Bloodgood
How i expected the ErrorDocument directive to behave was as follows: WHEN there was an error 401 (ie the user had logged in 3 times and failed) there would be an error page shown (in this case it would be /error/401). But instead what seems to be happening as soon as a user goes to an

Re: Apache crashing on mod_perl installation.

2001-12-10 Thread Ged Haywood
Hi again, On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, Titus Brown wrote: Bear in mind these are in the instructions for installation for mod_perl ;). :) I don't want it to install in the default place. The only time I've had real grief with building was when I did that. One of the problems is that it's difficult

RE: Auth Handlers

2001-12-10 Thread Ged Haywood
On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, Stathy Touloumis wrote: Directory /home/stathy/apache/html AuthName Login AuthType Base::Session::Handler require valid-user PerlAuthenHandler Base::Session::Handler /Directory Forgive me, it's late, and I'm afraid I've deleted the original question.

anyone know a trick with displaying 401 error messages for top level protected sites?

2001-12-10 Thread DJ \(David J Radunz\)
Greetings, Ive written a module to hanlde error messages, it works fine except when its used to handle a top level authentication.. and then it doesnt display the page. for example if the protected url was http://www.site.com/ the user would be redirected to http://www.site.com/error/401

Re: Preloading Fcntl.pm

2001-12-10 Thread Stas Bekman
Jorge Godoy wrote: Stas Bekman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think the general advise is to always call require() and not use() in startup.pl, unless you have a reason for calling certain modules' import() method. Wouldn't that affect mod_perl's advantage of sharing the modules? I mean,

Re: Perl-status shows 1 Mb for File::Find!

2001-12-10 Thread Perrin Harkins
I do preload the module. How do I find out what it really uses? In addition to Paul's advice, make sure you understand the output of your system's top command (or whatever you use to see process size). Usually there are multiple numbers, and some indicate real memory used while others indicate

RE: anyone know a trick with displaying 401 error messages for top level protected sites?

2001-12-10 Thread Brendan McAdams
Try the following: ErrorDocument 401 Error Encountered During Login. Contact DJ. ErrorDocument optionally takes a string defined by text instead of a document URI. I've found this tend to work smoothly where specifying an actual page wont. -Brendan -Original

RFC: OpenTMS

2001-12-10 Thread Per Einar
Hello, As I stated in another post to this forum, I would like to submit an RFC for OpenTMS. Exerpt from Readme file below: NAME OpenTMS - Open Tournament Management System DESCRIPTION OpenTMS is a web based mod_perl application to deal with the management of tournaments,

cvs commit: modperl-2.0/t .cvsignore

2001-12-10 Thread stas
stas01/12/09 23:44:53 Modified:t.cvsignore Log: - ignore the generated t/SMOKE Revision ChangesPath 1.3 +1 -0 modperl-2.0/t/.cvsignore Index: .cvsignore === RCS file:

cvs commit: modperl-2.0/lib/Apache compat.pm

2001-12-10 Thread stas
stas01/12/10 00:28:22 Modified:lib/Apache compat.pm Log: - because of open()'s prototype problems we cannot forward @_ to open. (tested with 5.6.1 and bleadperl) Revision ChangesPath 1.30 +14 -1 modperl-2.0/lib/Apache/compat.pm Index: compat.pm

cvs commit: modperl Changes

2001-12-10 Thread dougm
dougm 01/12/10 19:29:44 Modified:src/modules/win32 mod_perl.def apacimod_perl.exp .Changes Log: added perl_perl_merge_dir_config and array_header2avrv symbols to mod_perl.def for win32 and mod_perl.exp for aix Submitted by: Randy

cvs commit: modperl-2.0/src/modules/perl modperl_perl.c

2001-12-10 Thread dougm
dougm 01/12/10 20:22:32 Modified:src/modules/perl modperl_perl.c Log: call END blocks before interpreter shutdown Revision ChangesPath 1.9 +4 -0 modperl-2.0/src/modules/perl/modperl_perl.c Index: modperl_perl.c

cvs commit: modperl-2.0/t SMOKE.PL

2001-12-10 Thread stas
stas01/12/10 21:13:07 Modified:tSMOKE.PL Log: - use Apache::TestSmokePerl for t/SMOKE.PL in mod_perl Revision ChangesPath 1.2 +2 -2 modperl-2.0/t/SMOKE.PL Index: SMOKE.PL ===

cvs commit: modperl-2.0/lib/ModPerl Config.pm

2001-12-10 Thread stas
stas01/12/10 22:27:47 Modified:lib/ModPerl Config.pm Log: - use the existing configuration in as_string Revision ChangesPath 1.7 +1 -1 modperl-2.0/lib/ModPerl/Config.pm Index: Config.pm