Re: Load balancers

2003-01-14 Thread Igor Sysoev
On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, John Siracusa wrote: > Thanks for all the info, and please feel free to send me more, especially if > there's some gem of a software load balancer out there somewhere... :) mod_accel can do primitive load balancing (via DNS) and primitive fault tolerance. It connect to next b

Re: Load balancers

2003-01-13 Thread Stas Bekman
John Siracusa wrote: (This may seem off topic for this list, but I'll try to bring it around before the end of the message :) We've been struggling with load balancers for a while now. It seems that most experts hang at [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's also preferrable that the hw so

Re: Load balancers

2003-01-13 Thread Nick Tonkin
On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, Perrin Harkins wrote: > John Siracusa wrote: > > But in a full-fledged mod_perl solution, I could back out gracefully and > > retry another server if I happened to initially choose a dead server before > > my dead server detection code caught it. > > That sounds cool, but how

RE: Load balancers

2003-01-13 Thread Nick Tonkin
On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, Jesse Erlbaum wrote: > Hi John -- > > > That's for all the info so far. To answer some questions, > > hardware is a cost issue right now. It's somewhat scary that > > $3,200 was a "reasonable" price several years ago, but I > > suppose it could be worse. We will investi

RE: Load balancers

2003-01-13 Thread Jesse Erlbaum
Hi Perrin -- > That sounds cool, but how important is it really? I'm not > sure any of > these solutions (including the commercial ones) do that level of > seamless failover effectively. I know the CPE will pull faulty servers our of the pool, but it does so as a separate process (not by back

Re: Load balancers

2003-01-13 Thread Dzuy Nguyen
I've developed an embedded (Linux) load balancer solution. It's small form factor, runs on 8MB flash minimum, no hard drive, no fan so no wories about hard drive failure. It is LVS NAT (L4) based with configurable monitoring service. It load balances any port you want. I've deployed it to load

RE: Load balancers

2003-01-13 Thread Stephen Reppucci
On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, Jesse Erlbaum wrote: > > That's for all the info so far. To answer some questions, > > hardware is a cost issue right now. It's somewhat scary that > > $3,200 was a "reasonable" price several years ago, but I > > suppose it could be worse. We will investigate further. > > A

Re: Load balancers

2003-01-13 Thread John Siracusa
On 1/13/03 1:28 PM, Perrin Harkins wrote: > John Siracusa wrote: >> But in a full-fledged mod_perl solution, I could back out gracefully and >> retry another server if I happened to initially choose a dead server before >> my dead server detection code caught it. > > That sounds cool, but how impo

Re: Load balancers

2003-01-13 Thread Perrin Harkins
John Siracusa wrote: But in a full-fledged mod_perl solution, I could back out gracefully and retry another server if I happened to initially choose a dead server before my dead server detection code caught it. That sounds cool, but how important is it really? I'm not sure any of these solutio

RE: Load balancers

2003-01-13 Thread Jesse Erlbaum
Hi John -- > That's for all the info so far. To answer some questions, > hardware is a cost issue right now. It's somewhat scary that > $3,200 was a "reasonable" price several years ago, but I > suppose it could be worse. We will investigate further. Actually, $3200 was a STEAL! Cisco's "L

Re: Load balancers

2003-01-13 Thread John Siracusa
On 1/13/03 1:04 PM, Perrin Harkins wrote: > John Siracusa wrote: >> The mod_rewrite solutions lack dead server detection, and that's something >> I'd rather not try to roll on my own, especially after seeing how well (or >> not, actually) existing software solutions do. But I've added it to the >>

Re: Load balancers

2003-01-13 Thread Perrin Harkins
John Siracusa wrote: The mod_rewrite solutions lack dead server detection, and that's something I'd rather not try to roll on my own, especially after seeing how well (or not, actually) existing software solutions do. But I've added it to the list. ... It's kind of disappointing to hear that th

Re: Load balancers

2003-01-13 Thread John Siracusa
That's for all the info so far. To answer some questions, hardware is a cost issue right now. It's somewhat scary that $3,200 was a "reasonable" price several years ago, but I suppose it could be worse. We will investigate further. The mod_rewrite solutions lack dead server detection, and that'

Re: Load balancers

2003-01-13 Thread Francesc Guasch Ortiz
John Siracusa wrote: We've been struggling with load balancers for a while now. My requirements are pretty simple. I have a handful of plain and mod_perl apache servers, So...suggestions? How are other people handling load balancing? I have tested pen. It's easy to set up and wor

Re: Load balancers

2003-01-13 Thread James G Smith
Perrin Harkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >John Siracusa wrote: >> But meanwhile, we're still open to alternatives. Surprisingly, there don't >> seem to be many (software) options. (A hardware load balancer is not an >> option at his time, but I'll also take any suggestions in that area :) > >I'v

Re: Load balancers

2003-01-13 Thread Leo Lapworth
Hi John, I use wackamole (http://www.backhand.org/wackamole/) on my (2) front end servers with 6 IP addresses doing Round Robin (RR) DNS. This is suffichent for loadbalencing the light (HTML / IMAGE only) front end. I had a issue with this once, it got the IP address allocation confused, but othe

RE: Load balancers

2003-01-13 Thread Jesse Erlbaum
Hi John -- > But meanwhile, we're still open to alternatives. > Surprisingly, there don't seem to be many (software) options. > (A hardware load balancer is not an option at his time, but > I'll also take any suggestions in that area :) Why is hardware not an option? Cost? If so, I'd tak

Re: Load balancers

2003-01-13 Thread Larry Leszczynski
> The Load Balancing section of this doc might help: > http://httpd.apache.org/docs/misc/rewriteguide.html > > Just straight apache + mod_rewrite could be the simple solution you > seek. The Proxy Throughput Round-Robin example shows how to add a > script to do mapping as well - could work for yo

Re: Load balancers

2003-01-13 Thread Andy Osborne
John Siracusa wrote: [snip] > But meanwhile, we're still open to alternatives. Surprisingly, there don't seem to be many (software) options. (A hardware load balancer is not an option at his time, but I'll also take any suggestions in that area :) [snip] So...suggestions? How are other peop

Re: Load balancers

2003-01-13 Thread Steven Adams
On Monday 13 January 2003 08:03 am, John Siracusa wrote: > (We're running various versions of Linux on our servers, if that makes any > difference.) > > So...suggestions? How are other people handling load balancing? > > -John Hey John, Take a look at the LVS project, www.foundrynetworks.com and

Re: Load balancers

2003-01-13 Thread Nick Tonkin
On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, John Siracusa wrote: > But meanwhile, we're still open to alternatives. Surprisingly, there don't > seem to be many (software) options. (A hardware load balancer is not an > option at his time, but I'll also take any suggestions in that area :) My experience in this area le

Re: Load balancers

2003-01-13 Thread Perrin Harkins
John Siracusa wrote: But meanwhile, we're still open to alternatives. Surprisingly, there don't seem to be many (software) options. (A hardware load balancer is not an option at his time, but I'll also take any suggestions in that area :) I've always used hardware ones. I believe big/ip does

Re: Load balancers

2003-01-13 Thread John Siracusa
On 1/13/03 11:12 AM, Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote: > On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, John Siracusa wrote: >> So...suggestions? How are other people handling load balancing? > > With hardware load balancers. :-) Sure, rub it in ;) > You forgot to include the information about number of serve

Re: Load balancers

2003-01-13 Thread Paolo Campanella
On Mon, 13 Jan 2003 11:03:28 -0500 John Siracusa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We've been struggling with load balancers for a while now. My > requirements are pretty simple. I have a handful of plain and mod_perl > apache servers, some of which are identical and a few of

Re: Load balancers

2003-01-13 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen
On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, John Siracusa wrote: > So...suggestions? How are other people handling load balancing? With hardware load balancers. :-) You forgot to include the information about number of servers, requests per second at peak times, reponse sizes, etc etc. - ask -- ask bjo

Load balancers

2003-01-13 Thread John Siracusa
(This may seem off topic for this list, but I'll try to bring it around before the end of the message :) We've been struggling with load balancers for a while now. My requirements are pretty simple. I have a handful of plain and mod_perl apache servers, some of which are identical an