PS.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Bell
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bulger (might make you re-think "middle
class".)
Natalie
Quoting JR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> How about the incident in London a few years ago, when two young boys (I
> think I recall them as being 8 and 9 years old)
If only. James Bulger was nearly 3 when Robert Thompson and Jon Venables
murdered him, and he was only a "playmate" in the most horrible sense of the
word. One of these kids is now a father himself. What's the one thing these two
had in common? No, not Child's Play 3. A crappy homelife and crappy p
Yes, I think we've beat it to death, no pun intended. Who knew all this would ensue when I lobbed the bomb about the JordanCrossing Megaplex playing HOSTEL but breaking their contract to play BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN. I intended to point out what I can only take to be the homophobia and just plain weir
ned 30
or 40 years ago?
Enough. The trend is clear to anyone who cares to look. But as I said, we
have drifted way off-topic, so I've said my last on this for now.
-- JR
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Hi JR
Where do you get this information? As a fan and great reader of
true crime as well as all forms of non-fiction in particular, I've always
been led to believe that there is a distinct percentage of the population
that seems to exhibit behaviour that can lead to violent crime. I've
been un
nt" -- particularly
when children as young a 6 and 7 are being taken to see such an atrocities on
the big screen. Like it or not... as a culture we are what we eat.
Cannibalism fans take note.
-- JR
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Well, was it murder or accidental death? There's a big difference.
We pretended a lot when I was young and I still like pretending every now
and then. I know a friend broke a collar bone trying to be Evel Kneivel
on our bikes.
There have been ugly and violent murders by young people since peo
death, and his attorneys
argued he was imitating professional wrestling moves when he accidentally killed
her.
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Doc,
So would you be willing to use your extensive background and experience
to enlighten us on the issues I mentioned? Personally, I think you
would rather be content in giving us your resumé and hoping that we
assume it somehow applies towards the original topic.
And why do I have to have a
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Didn’t the Beatles send private
messages to Charlie Manson?
HELTER SKELTER……
I knew those bloody Hippies were trouble.
Ari
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I'd be curious to see what age group is going to see this film. My 17
year old son, along with about 20 of his friends (boy and girl) went to
see this film and thought it was
In a message dated 1/19/2006 12:34:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
back to your original premise of this thread, do you remember back in Roman times - there was this thing called the Colosseum? Men were thrown in that arena to certain death - all for the entertainment of
Well, I was going to just drop this, as I felt I wasn't getting any
intelligent debate from you, but now it's obvious just simply didn't
read anything I wrote: "Since videogames are more cinematic now than
ever
before, I felt compelled to make this analogy between games and
film."
Additionally,
Title: Re: [MOPO] HOSTILE TOWARD
HOSTEL
Serial killer David Berkovitz ("The Son of Sam")
claimed he received his orders to kill from his neighbor's talking
dog...
Maybe we should keep kids away from dogs, just to make
sure.
HH
On 1/19/06, Dr Vollin Md <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I personally hate video games. I'd much rather exercise my imagination
with a book or movie and I'd much rather develop my hand eye
coordination on my guitar. More profitable for me as well.
GD
Dr Vollin Md wrote:
Secondly what do video games have to do with MoPo? We discuss movies
and movie rel
Secondly what do video games have to do with MoPo? We discuss movies and movie related items. I'd be curious to know how many MoPo'ers play video games? Lets see the hands! I myself do not. the doctor
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Video games will be the downfall of a once artistic society. Hostile 2 Hostel was my topic to begin with - YOU jumped in- not me. the doctor
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Wow! What a convincing rebuttal! I stand corrected!
By all means, don't bother addressing any of the other points I brought
up, just take a one-sided approach believing that your opinion is the
only one that matters. Yes, I'm being sarcastic - if you treat people
like they're idiots, and avoid
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It boils down to parenting, people! Plain and simple. Any loving and caring parents should be playing an active part in their children's lives, and should know what they're doing and who they're hanging ar
Well, being a total videogame and film geek, I've seen and played 'em
all. My film degree afforded me even more opportunities to see
films not often screened, like Brakhage's Autopsy. Intense and
disturbing films, like Passolini's Salo. I snuck into The
Terminator when I was 15, and even then I
In a message dated 1/18/2006 6:12:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As we are going in circles here (and the funny thing is, I didn't even likeHostel) but you still can't give me one documented case of violent mediacausing a "normal" (for lack of a better word) person to sn
have a nice day.
Cheers,
Erik
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Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:06 PM
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Erik,
You're quite right about the state of the world
r lack of a better word) person to snap and kill,
maim or injure someone. If so, put up or...have a nice day.
Cheers,
Erik
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Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:06 PM
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TED]>
Date: 2006/01/17 Tue PM 04:56:48 EST
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I was in attendance at a screening with Eli Roth in Texas not to
long ago, and while I didn't care for Hostel (or Roth's work in
general) I for one am thankful that har
(producer/writer) is from thirty miles away-- Archer City, TX-- location . But
it will open at the new Cinemark Theatre on Friday.
"Hostel" is already playing.
Joe
>
> From: Erik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2006/01/17 Tue PM 04:56:48 EST
> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.
n of the merits of one film over another
has to go beyond simple personal taste.
-- JR
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Cc:
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 13:38
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&
horror films play a role in? It
ain't all fluffy clouds and butterflies, anywhere.
Cheers,
Erik
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Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 11:59 PM
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own Cannibal
> Holocaust supposed
> > to make
> > me a sick, depraved prevert, regardless of how
> "normal" my life is?
> > I think not. What floats your boat may not work
> for me, bunky. Such is
> > the
> > beauty of choice.
> >
> > Che
I haven't watched HOSTEL. I saw WOLF CREEK and it was
enough. There is a certain artistry to scaring people
and I thought HIGH TENSION had those elements and was
gory as hell. Okay the script wasn't the best but
neither were the others. The music, sound design, and
camera work were exceptional.
intage Movie Memorabilia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 9:03 PM
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I have never been able to understand the fascination with extreme horror
films or the motivation of those who make them. Perhaps it is just the
cheap
500
> From: JR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MOPO] HOSTILE TOWARD HOSTEL
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> Erik,
>
> Sorry, dude, but if your statements below are
> serious, then from your own
> statements you've identified yourself as a product
>
Apparently, we're doing a good job of it.
Henry
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Isnt it funny, depending on AGE and what you saw as a youngster people feel
what they like/remember/continue to enjoy is the "real" thing.
I know many people, some here, Forry also doesnt consider "slasher' films
and "gore' films as "Horror" films.
It reminds me of my friends and I. We as teens a
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Well, it has to be noted (again) that FRANKENSTEIN, DRACULA, FREAKS, THE
MUMMY, ISLAND OF LOST SOULS, THE BLACK CAT, THE RAVEN and about a dozen
others in the 30s were then considered &qu
> > me a sick, depraved prevert, regardless of how "normal" my life is?
> > I think not. What floats your boat may not work for me, bunky. Such is
> > the
> > beauty of choice.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Erik
> >
> >
> > - Original
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Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 9:03 PM
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I have never been able to understand the fascination with extreme
horror
films or the motivation of those who
world.
-- JR
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To:
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 22:05
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> People watch horror films the same reason some people ride roller
coasters,
> or skydive, or watch a sapp
orities or are they just entertainment.
Regards
John
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People watch horror films the same reason some people ride roller
coasters,
or skydive, or watch a sappy tearjerker: it gives them an emotional
stimulus
they enjoy receiving.
artforms for a long time, and
I don't think its going anywhere..
Thanks for looking,
Ari
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Date: 18/01/2006 13:05
>
> People watch horror f
gardless of how "normal" my life is?
I think not. What floats your boat may not work for me, bunky. Such
is the
beauty of choice.
Cheers,
Erik
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o:
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I have never been able to understand the fascination with extreme horror
films or the motivation of those who make them. Perhaps it is just the
cheap
thrill or a perverted form of shock value but it is all
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Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 11:01 AM
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Erik is correct of c
Erik is correct of course, most most notably in his last two paras of
his post.
I probably won't see HOSTEL unless it's as a freebie on DVD down the track.
I haven't bothered to see remakes of DAWN OF THE DEAD or TCM either.
It's a matter of choice. I can think of a dozen movies that I would
ch
I was in attendance at a screening with Eli Roth in Texas not to long ago,
and while I didn't care for Hostel (or Roth's work in general) I for one am
thankful that hard-core (not in the pornographic sense that many attatch to the
word) horror is making a comeback.
I cut my teeth on the Golde
roposition.
-- JR
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Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006
12:56
Subject: [MOPO] HOSTILE TOWARD
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Hey gang! Now I remember why todays so called "Horror" genre should be
cast down t
Y (WASHINGTON, DC)
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From: Dr Vollin Md
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 9:56 AM
Subject: [MOPO] HOSTILE TOWARD HOSTEL
Hey gang! Now I remember why todays so called "Horror" genre should be cast
down to the bo
Hey gang! Now I remember why todays so called "Horror" genre should be cast down to the bowels of a beast called atrocity. A nauseating viewing of Hostel reassured me of my thoughts toward mankind's view of entertainment. What scared me was that there are people in this world as sick and evil as
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