On Tuesday 21 January 2003 04:25 am, Kesav Tadimeti wrote:
Hi Kal,
In India, RedHat and Debian are popular. Haven't heard
of ELR. g And no, Indians have *NO* plans to take over
to innovate a new distro, not to speak of taking up
French govt. contracts. /g Tadimeti Kesav
KEANE INDIA Ltd.
E9
This is a very good post.
--LX
On Sun, 2003-01-19 at 15:37, Miark wrote:
I don't care about -your- timing. My point was to the original poster
who recommended your article as timely and relevant to the discussion
on Mandrakesoft's bankruptcy. It's not.
That aside, your article doesn't
daRcmaTTeR wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, John Richard Smith wrote:
Ronald J. Hall wrote:
Mandrake has filed for bankruptcy...
Follow this link... :-(
http://lwn.net/Articles/20061/
how much longer will newbie exist I wonder ?
john
good God all...they haven't gone tets
On Monday 20 January 2003 08:09 pm, daRcmaTTeR wrote:
snip
you know...all this discussion has got me wondering if
we the Linux community at large, could some how get
together and solicit the help of one or more
philanthropists (sp). I read an article in my local
paper recently that some rich
Hi Kal,
In India, RedHat and Debian are popular. Haven't heard of ELR.
g And no, Indians have *NO* plans to take over to innovate a new distro,
not to speak of taking up French govt. contracts. /g
Tadimeti Kesav
KEANE INDIA Ltd.
E9 - E12, SDF
NEPZ
NOIDA - 201 305
U.P, INDIA
Telefon: +91-120-256
On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, John Richard Smith wrote:
Ronald J. Hall wrote:
Mandrake has filed for bankruptcy...
Follow this link... :-(
http://lwn.net/Articles/20061/
how much longer will newbie exist I wonder ?
john
good God all...they haven't gone tets up! they've merely filed
On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:13:14 -0800
Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's odd that someone from the same timezone as myself can't imagine
that the article was published on the same day but before the
announcement came out.
I don't care about -your- timing. My point was to the original
Miark wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:13:14 -0800
Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's odd that someone from the same timezone as myself can't imagine
that the article was published on the same day but before the
announcement came out.
I don't care about -your- timing. My point was to the
On Sunday 19 January 2003 23:32, robin wrote:
Except, of course, you're serious.
I agree that _if_ Mandrake dies, your ideas would serve the remaining
community well. So if you wanna draw up plans for that possibility
(not eventuality) then fine. Expect the best, but prepare for the
On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 04:50:24PM -0500, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
Welcome to the list. g I note with considerable interest that this is
the first post by you that I've ever seen, and my mail (in this
incarnation) goes back to 2000. So I'm honored. ;)
I had not been subscribed to this list. But
On Friday 17 Jan 2003 11:25 pm, Ben Reser wrote:
Anne, there is no way the majority of the shareholders are people like
you and I. We make up a minute portion of the funding.
Totally accepted.
If you refer to
Mandrakesoft's web page about the company you will note rather large
venture
boy no wonder they say Holland is the sex tourism capital of Europe. (LOL)
You better get started on those cookies though. :)
Ummh,
Where'd the nude guy with 'the 3 fingered salute' and the 'held-up' cd go?
Now there's a money maker!=;o)
Don't say he never made it through the reboot:o(
On Saturday 18 January 2003 06:20 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Friday 17 Jan 2003 11:25 pm, Ben Reser wrote:
Anne, there is no way the majority of the shareholders are people like
you and I. We make up a minute portion of the funding.
Totally accepted.
If you refer to
Mandrakesoft's web
Carroll Grigsby wrote:
It's no accident that VC's are sometimes referred to as vulture capitalists.
They are the modern embodiment of the old time con men and snake oil
salesmen; they just wear nicer suits and have MBA's. If the general public
had a better understanding of VC's, we'd be
On Sat, 18 Jan 2003 01:04 am, Ben Reser wrote:
Brandon Vanderberg wrote on Thu, 16 Jan 2003:
Otherwise, we'll have to have a big giant bake sale. We could make like
little penguin and star cookies and stuff. ;)
Well it appears that the actual debt is 2 million euros and that the
other 2
On Friday 17 January 2003 04:30, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
On Thursday 16 January 2003 11:30 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
Chances are that if the company does survive, then at some point the
stocks are going to go back up. That means that the stockholders that
have not sold out still stand a
1/16/03 10:30:49 PM, Ronald J. Hall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thursday 16 January 2003 11:30 pm, Lyvim Xaphir
wrote:
Chances are that if the company does survive, then at
some point the
stocks are going to go back up. That means that the
stockholders that
have not sold out still stand
Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 09:33, Mike Larson wrote:
Anne Wilson wrote:
It's true that if it comes to the 'bitter end' then difficult decisions will
have to be made, but I want to address the problem of where our money goes.
Much play has been made of the fact that it will
Ronald J. Hall wrote:
On Thursday 16 January 2003 11:30 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
Chances are that if the company does survive, then at some point the
stocks are going to go back up. That means that the stockholders that
have not sold out still stand a chance to profit.
--LX
Lyvim, want to
On Friday 17 Jan 2003 7:40 pm, Mike Larson wrote:
Ronald J. Hall wrote:
On Thursday 16 January 2003 11:30 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
Chances are that if the company does survive, then at some point the
stocks are going to go back up. That means that the stockholders that
have not sold out
Lyvim Xaphir wrote at Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:58:
Not only that, Miark...but more importantly he is suggesting that there
be a fork of the Mandrake distro using of course Mandrake GPL'd distro
packages and code. This is a very dangerous suggestion in the here and
now, when the new Mandrake
On Fri, 2003-01-17 at 14:32, Mike Larson wrote:
Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
Whew, what a mule blinder perspective.
Hi, Lyvim. I am not familiar with the term mule blinder perspective,
but I assume it is a derogatory term for anyone that disagrees with you.
I was raised in the countryside of
Vahur Lokk wrote on Thu, 16 Jan 2003 01:54:
I read his proposal in a little bit different way. Supporters of
Mandrake are currently doing big efforts to keep the company alive but
it is true that our money goes to cover old debts, not to develop a new
better distro. Ben shows a way to get rid
On Friday 17 Jan 2003 10:33 pm, Ben Reser wrote:
Vahur Lokk wrote on Thu, 16 Jan 2003 01:54:
I read his proposal in a little bit different way. Supporters of
Mandrake are currently doing big efforts to keep the company alive but
it is true that our money goes to cover old debts, not to
On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 18:40:34
Miark wrote:
Despite today's date, he doesn't know what's going on with Mandrake's
bankruptcy. He complains about the low value of boxed Linux-Mandrake,
and say that Mandrake Club is useless and that votes mean nothing.
He's suggesting mutiny against Mandrake
Anne Wilson wrote on 16 Jan 2003, 9:41
It's true that if it comes to the 'bitter end' then difficult
decisions will have to be made, but I want to address the problem of
where our money goes. Much play has been made of the fact that it
will go to pay off old debts, as though that were a
On Fri, 2003-01-17 at 17:25, Ben Reser wrote:
Lyvim Xaphir wrote at Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:58:
Not only that, Miark...but more importantly he is suggesting that there
be a fork of the Mandrake distro using of course Mandrake GPL'd distro
packages and code. This is a very dangerous suggestion
On Friday 17 Jan 2003 10:43 pm, Ben Reser wrote:
Anne Wilson wrote on 16 Jan 2003, 9:41
As far as outside control. Mandrakesoft gave up control the instant
they started taking VC money and started selling their stock on a public
market. The company is in the hands of shareholders now
On Friday 17 January 2003 01:24 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
Hah!
You freeloader!
You just want make even more of a profit then the rest of us when their
stocks start rising again=:o)
Good luck,
HarM
Hehehehehehe
--
On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 10:58:38PM +, Anne Wilson wrote:
On what do you base this statement? I'm a shareholder, too, and I have never
seen anything to suggest that the shareholders are, in fact, on their backs.
The kind of shareholders you are talking about have been too nervy to put
On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 23:30, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
On Thursday 16 January 2003 11:30 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
Chances are that if the company does survive, then at some point the
stocks are going to go back up. That means that the stockholders that
have not sold out still stand a chance
Brandon Vanderberg wrote on Thu, 16 Jan 2003:
4 million euros, yikes. That's over 33,000 silver memberships or 57,000
power packs (from their site).
I think Ben's got a good point. I'd like to see them isolate the distro
from the company in some way.
Otherwise, we'll have to have a big
On Saturday 18 January 2003 01:04, Ben Reser wrote:
Brandon Vanderberg wrote on Thu, 16 Jan 2003:
4 million euros, yikes. That's over 33,000 silver memberships or 57,000
power packs (from their site).
I think Ben's got a good point. I'd like to see them isolate the distro
from the
On Friday 17 January 2003 04:22 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
thread snipped to make smartass comment
Can we smoke the peace pipe now? ;)
--LX
Depends. What exactly are we burning?
-- cmg
Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
On Thursday 16 January 2003 07:52, you wrote:
On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 21:39, Miark wrote:
Despite today's date, he doesn't know what's going on with Mandrake's
bankruptcy. He complains about the low value of boxed Linux-Mandrake,
and say that Mandrake Club is useless and that votes mean
On Thursday 16 Jan 2003 9:41 am, Vahur Lokk wrote:
On Thursday 16 January 2003 07:52, you wrote:
On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 21:39, Miark wrote:
Despite today's date, he doesn't know what's going on with Mandrake's
bankruptcy. He complains about the low value of boxed Linux-Mandrake,
and say
On Thursday 16 January 2003 12:14, you wrote:
Getting rid of those debts is crucial - make no mistake about it - and
cannot therefore be seen as a waste of our money.
Sure but if Bens financial info is correct, there is no way to do it in few
next years. Saving the company is going to hurt
On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 21:27, Vahur Lokk wrote:
On Thursday 16 January 2003 12:14, you wrote:
Getting rid of those debts is crucial - make no mistake about it - and
cannot therefore be seen as a waste of our money.
Sure but if Bens financial info is correct, there is no way to do it in
On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 02:27, Vahur Lokk wrote:
On Thursday 16 January 2003 12:14, you wrote:
Getting rid of those debts is crucial - make no mistake about it - and
cannot therefore be seen as a waste of our money.
Sure but if Bens financial info is correct, there is no way to do it in
On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 21:59, Brandon Vanderberg wrote:
On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 02:27, Vahur Lokk wrote:
On Thursday 16 January 2003 12:14, you wrote:
Getting rid of those debts is crucial - make no mistake about it - and
cannot therefore be seen as a waste of our money.
Sure but if
Ronald J. Hall wrote:
Mandrake has filed for bankruptcy...
Follow this link... :-(
http://lwn.net/Articles/20061/
how much longer will newbie exist I wonder ?
john
It seems to me with my limited insight to the true nature of the
situation that the future of Mandrake is one of 2 ways,
It
Anne Wilson wrote:
It's true that if it comes to the 'bitter end' then difficult decisions will
have to be made, but I want to address the problem of where our money goes.
Much play has been made of the fact that it will go to pay off old debts, as
though that were a completely negative
On Qui 16 Jan 2003 14:18, Anne Wilson wrote:
Yet IANAL, You are right Anne!
I've being looking for some info and this Chapter 11, would be a kind of
preventive action from MandrakSoft to avoid having bankruptcy requested by
others.
So, they would have a situation their under-controll to fry
On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 09:33, Mike Larson wrote:
Anne Wilson wrote:
It's true that if it comes to the 'bitter end' then difficult decisions will
have to be made, but I want to address the problem of where our money goes.
Much play has been made of the fact that it will go to pay off old
Mandrake has filed for bankruptcy...
Follow this link... :-(
http://lwn.net/Articles/20061/
--
/\
$hit.
On Tuesday 14 January 2003 11:30 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
Mandrake has filed for bankruptcy...
Follow this link... :-(
http://lwn.net/Articles/20061/
Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Mandrake has filed for bankruptcy...
So, now what...
Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
More info
http://212.100.234.54/content/4/28859.html
On Wednesday 15 January 2003 4:30 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
Mandrake has filed for bankruptcy...
Follow this link... :-(
http://lwn.net/Articles/20061/
Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
Go to
On Wednesday 15 January 2003 11:59 am, Jody Cleveland wrote:
Mandrake has filed for bankruptcy...
So, now what...
The article says Chapter 11, so maybe they will be able to pull themselves out
of this mess
--
On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 11:54, et wrote:
$hit.
Yes, it does suck green donkey.
On Tuesday 14 January 2003 11:30 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
Mandrake has filed for bankruptcy...
Follow this link... :-(
http://lwn.net/Articles/20061/
--LX
--
On Wednesday 15 Jan 2003 H:30 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
Mandrake has filed for bankruptcy...
Follow this link... :-(
http://lwn.net/Articles/20061/
And on a more positive note
http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/press/briefs?n=/mandrakesoft/news/2405
--
http://www.poogle.co.uk
Want to
Ronald J. Hall wrote:
Mandrake has filed for bankruptcy...
Follow this link... :-(
http://lwn.net/Articles/20061/
how much longer will newbie exist I wonder ?
john
--
John Richard Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
Go to
Title: RE: [newbie] Its official :-(
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ronald J. Hall
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 11:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Its official :-(
On Wednesday 15 January 2003 11:59
1/15/03 10:59:32 AM, Jody Cleveland
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mandrake has filed for bankruptcy...
So, now what...
To me it sounds like business as usual except they have
the bill collectors off their butt.
Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
Go to
On Wednesday 15 Jan 2003 5:37 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
Ronald J. Hall wrote:
Mandrake has filed for bankruptcy...
Follow this link... :-(
http://lwn.net/Articles/20061/
how much longer will newbie exist I wonder ?
If it doesn't cost much to run it may well be seen as an asset.
On Wednesday 15 Jan 2003 3:40 pm, Damian Gatabria wrote:
To me it sounds like business as usual except they have
the bill collectors off their butt.
Right on. I was afraid i would get a loonie label in my forehead,
but that is exactly what i was thinking about.
Damian.
Right now
On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 09:41:39 -0800
Myers, Dennis R NWO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The article says Chapter 11, so maybe they will be able to pull themselves
out of this mess
Damn right. I don't see this as bad news at all. In fact, it's good
news because
1) It allows Mandrakesoft to
I hope you were right.
1) It allows Mandrakesoft to _continue_ working, and
2) Without that immense debt burden, MDK will be able to work better
than they did before.
Good for them. Good for us!
Miark
--
Francisco Alcaraz Ariza
Departamento de Biología Vegetal
Universidad de Murcia
I think I will go and buy a bunch of stuff at the Mandrake store, cause if it
helps, great, and if they (we) disappear, it will be a good collectable.
On Wednesday 15 Jan 2003 5:37 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
Ronald J. Hall wrote:
Mandrake has filed for bankruptcy...
Follow this
On Tuesday 14 January 2003 20:59, Miark wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 09:41:39 -0800
Myers, Dennis R NWO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The article says Chapter 11, so maybe they will be able to pull
themselves out of this mess
Damn right. I don't see this as bad news at all. In fact, it's
Same here. I just renewed this afternoon. Go Mandrake!
Miark
On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 12:37:31 -0600
Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
_We_ can help. Join the Club, or if you're already a member, renew
early. I did a few weeks ago, I'm confident Mandrake will continue.
--
Tom
On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 18:45, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
On Tuesday 14 January 2003 20:59, Miark wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 09:41:39 -0800
Any which way, this is not born out of luxury! It certainly doesn't attract
investors.
I've renewed my club silver-membership so often lately I don't even
On Wednesday 15 January 2003 23:20, walt wrote:
One problem is that if you do not have a debit or credit card, you can
not join the Mandrake club. I am looking forward to the 9.1 release and
plan on buying the power pack when it is released. I am also going to
look into buying OTC stock in
On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 11:28, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
On Wednesday 15 January 2003 23:20, walt wrote:
One problem is that if you do not have a debit or credit card, you can
not join the Mandrake club. I am looking forward to the 9.1 release and
plan on buying the power pack when it is
On Wednesday 15 January 2003 23:44, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 11:28, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
On Wednesday 15 January 2003 23:20, walt wrote:
One problem is that if you do not have a debit or credit card, you can
not join the Mandrake club. I am looking forward to the 9.1
Noyes
On Wednesday 15 January 2003 12:41 pm, Myers, Dennis R NWO wrote:
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ronald J. Hall
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 11:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Its official
On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 21:39, Miark wrote:
Despite today's date, he doesn't know what's going on with Mandrake's
bankruptcy. He complains about the low value of boxed Linux-Mandrake,
and say that Mandrake Club is useless and that votes mean nothing.
He's suggesting mutiny against Mandrake
On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 23:05, Dennis Myers wrote:
I find that an opposing point of view always helps me focus on my own
perceptions and reasoning behind my point of view. This is one of those
articles that helped me focus. I agree that the so called value of Mandrake
Club is minimal for
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