On Tuesday 21 January 2003 04:25 am, Kesav Tadimeti wrote:
> Hi Kal,
> In India, RedHat and Debian are popular. Haven't heard
> of ELR. And no, Indians have *NO* plans to take over
> to innovate a new distro, not to speak of taking up
> French govt. contracts. Tadimeti Kesav
> KEANE INDIA Ltd.
>
Hi Kal,
In India, RedHat and Debian are popular. Haven't heard of ELR.
And no, Indians have *NO* plans to take over to innovate a new distro,
not to speak of taking up French govt. contracts.
Tadimeti Kesav
KEANE INDIA Ltd.
E9 - E12, SDF
NEPZ
NOIDA - 201 305
U.P, INDIA
Telefon: +91-120-256 8210
On Monday 20 January 2003 08:09 pm, daRcmaTTeR wrote:
> you know...all this discussion has got me wondering if
> "we" the Linux community at large, could some how get
> together and solicit the help of one or more
> philanthropists (sp). I read an article in my local
> paper recently that some ric
daRcmaTTeR wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, John Richard Smith wrote:
Ronald J. Hall wrote:
Mandrake has filed for bankruptcy...
Follow this link... :-(
http://lwn.net/Articles/20061/
how much longer will newbie exist I wonder ?
john
good God all...they haven't gone tets u
On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, John Richard Smith wrote:
> Ronald J. Hall wrote:
>
> >Mandrake has filed for bankruptcy...
> >
> >Follow this link... :-(
> >
> >http://lwn.net/Articles/20061/
> >
> >
> >
> how much longer will newbie exist I wonder ?
>
> john
good God all...they haven't gone tets up! t
This is a very good post.
--LX
On Sun, 2003-01-19 at 15:37, Miark wrote:
> I don't care about -your- timing. My point was to the original poster
> who recommended your article as timely and relevant to the discussion
> on Mandrakesoft's bankruptcy. It's not.
>
> That aside, your article doesn
On Sunday 19 January 2003 23:32, robin wrote:
> > Except, of course, you're serious.
> >
> > I agree that _if_ Mandrake dies, your ideas would serve the remaining
> > community well. So if you wanna draw up plans for that possibility
> > (not eventuality) then fine. "Expect the best, but prepare fo
Miark wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:13:14 -0800
Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
It's odd that someone from the same timezone as myself can't imagine
that the article was published on the same day but before the
announcement came out.
I don't care about -your- timing. My point was to th
On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:13:14 -0800
Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's odd that someone from the same timezone as myself can't imagine
> that the article was published on the same day but before the
> announcement came out.
I don't care about -your- timing. My point was to the original
On Sat, 18 Jan 2003 01:04 am, Ben Reser wrote:
> Brandon Vanderberg wrote on Thu, 16 Jan 2003:
> > Otherwise, we'll have to have a big giant bake sale. We could make like
> > little penguin and star cookies and stuff. ;)
>
> Well it appears that the actual debt is 2 million euros and that the
> oth
Carroll Grigsby wrote:
It's no accident that VC's are sometimes referred to as "vulture capitalists".
They are the modern embodiment of the old time con men and snake oil
salesmen; they just wear nicer suits and have MBA's. If the general public
had a better understanding of VC's, we'd be hear
On Saturday 18 January 2003 06:20 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Friday 17 Jan 2003 11:25 pm, Ben Reser wrote:
> > Anne, there is no way the majority of the shareholders are people like
> > you and I. We make up a minute portion of the funding.
>
> Totally accepted.
>
> > If you refer to
> > Mandrake
boy no wonder they say Holland is the sex tourism capital of Europe. (LOL)
> >
> > You better get started on those cookies though. :)
>
> Ummh,
>
> Where'd the nude guy with 'the 3 fingered salute' and the 'held-up' cd go?
> Now there's a money maker!=;o)
>
> Don't say he never made it through the
On Friday 17 Jan 2003 11:25 pm, Ben Reser wrote:
> Anne, there is no way the majority of the shareholders are people like
> you and I. We make up a minute portion of the funding.
Totally accepted.
> If you refer to
> Mandrakesoft's web page about the company you will note rather large
> ventur
On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 04:50:24PM -0500, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
> Welcome to the list. I note with considerable interest that this is
> the first post by you that I've ever seen, and my mail (in this
> incarnation) goes back to 2000. So I'm honored. ;)
I had not been subscribed to this list. But
On Friday 17 January 2003 04:22 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
>>> thread snipped to make smartass comment
>
> Can we smoke the peace pipe now? ;)
>
> --LX
Depends. What exactly are we burning?
-- cmg
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Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
On Saturday 18 January 2003 01:04, Ben Reser wrote:
> Brandon Vanderberg wrote on Thu, 16 Jan 2003:
> > 4 million euros, yikes. That's over 33,000 silver memberships or 57,000
> > power packs (from their site).
> >
> > I think Ben's got a good point. I'd like to see them isolate the distro
> > from
Brandon Vanderberg wrote on Thu, 16 Jan 2003:
> 4 million euros, yikes. That's over 33,000 silver memberships or 57,000
> power packs (from their site).
> I think Ben's got a good point. I'd like to see them isolate the distro
> from the company in some way.
> Otherwise, we'll have to have a big
On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 23:30, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> On Thursday 16 January 2003 11:30 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
>
> > Chances are that if the company does survive, then at some point the
> > stocks are going to go back up. That means that the stockholders that
> > have not sold out still stand a
On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 10:58:38PM +, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On what do you base this statement? I'm a shareholder, too, and I have never
> seen anything to suggest that the shareholders are, in fact, on their backs.
> The kind of shareholders you are talking about have been too nervy to put
On Friday 17 January 2003 01:24 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> Hah!
> You freeloader!
> You just want make even more of a profit then the rest of us when their
> stocks start rising again=:o)
>
> Good luck,
> HarM
Hehehehehehe
--
On Friday 17 Jan 2003 10:43 pm, Ben Reser wrote:
> Anne Wilson wrote on 16 Jan 2003, 9:41
>
>
> As far as outside control. Mandrakesoft gave up control the instant
> they started taking VC money and started selling their stock on a public
> market. The company is in the hands of shareholders now
On Fri, 2003-01-17 at 17:25, Ben Reser wrote:
> Lyvim Xaphir wrote at Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:58:
> > Not only that, Miark...but more importantly he is suggesting that there
> > be a fork of the Mandrake distro using of course Mandrake GPL'd distro
> > packages and code. This is a very dangerous sugge
Anne Wilson wrote on 16 Jan 2003, 9:41
> It's true that if it comes to the 'bitter end' then difficult
> decisions will have to be made, but I want to address the problem of
> where our money goes. Much play has been made of the fact that it
> will go to pay off old debts, as though that were a c
On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 18:40:34
Miark wrote:
> Despite today's date, he doesn't know what's going on with Mandrake's
> bankruptcy. He complains about the low value of boxed Linux-Mandrake,
> and say that Mandrake Club is useless and that votes mean nothing.
> He's suggesting mutiny against Mandrake b
On Friday 17 Jan 2003 10:33 pm, Ben Reser wrote:
> Vahur Lokk wrote on Thu, 16 Jan 2003 01:54:
> > I read his proposal in a little bit different way. Supporters of
> > Mandrake are currently doing big efforts to keep the company alive but
> > it is true that our money goes to cover old debts, not t
Vahur Lokk wrote on Thu, 16 Jan 2003 01:54:
> I read his proposal in a little bit different way. Supporters of
> Mandrake are currently doing big efforts to keep the company alive but
> it is true that our money goes to cover old debts, not to develop a new
> better distro. Ben shows a way to get
On Fri, 2003-01-17 at 14:32, Mike Larson wrote:
> Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
> > Whew, what a mule blinder perspective.
>
> Hi, Lyvim. I am not familiar with the term "mule blinder perspective",
> but I assume it is a derogatory term for anyone that disagrees with you.
I was raised in the countrysid
Lyvim Xaphir wrote at Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:58:
> Not only that, Miark...but more importantly he is suggesting that there
> be a fork of the Mandrake distro using of course Mandrake GPL'd distro
> packages and code. This is a very dangerous suggestion in the here and
> now, when the new Mandrake man
On Friday 17 Jan 2003 7:40 pm, Mike Larson wrote:
> Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> > On Thursday 16 January 2003 11:30 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
> >>Chances are that if the company does survive, then at some point the
> >>stocks are going to go back up. That means that the stockholders that
> >>have not s
Ronald J. Hall wrote:
On Thursday 16 January 2003 11:30 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
Chances are that if the company does survive, then at some point the
stocks are going to go back up. That means that the stockholders that
have not sold out still stand a chance to profit.
--LX
Lyvim, want to
Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 09:33, Mike Larson wrote:
Anne Wilson wrote:
It's true that if it comes to the 'bitter end' then difficult decisions will
have to be made, but I want to address the problem of where our money goes.
Much play has been made of the fact that it will
1/16/03 10:30:49 PM, "Ronald J. Hall"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Thursday 16 January 2003 11:30 pm, Lyvim Xaphir
wrote:
>
>> Chances are that if the company does survive, then at
some point the
>> stocks are going to go back up. That means that the
stockholders that
>> have not sold out
On Friday 17 January 2003 04:30, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> On Thursday 16 January 2003 11:30 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
> > Chances are that if the company does survive, then at some point the
> > stocks are going to go back up. That means that the stockholders that
> > have not sold out still stand a
On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 09:33, Mike Larson wrote:
> Anne Wilson wrote:
> > It's true that if it comes to the 'bitter end' then difficult decisions will
> > have to be made, but I want to address the problem of where our money goes.
> > Much play has been made of the fact that it will go to pay of
On Qui 16 Jan 2003 14:18, Anne Wilson wrote:
Yet IANAL, You are right Anne!
I've being looking for some info and this Chapter 11, would be a kind of
preventive action from MandrakSoft to avoid having bankruptcy requested by
others.
So, they would have a situation their "under-controll" to fry
Anne Wilson wrote:
It's true that if it comes to the 'bitter end' then difficult decisions will
have to be made, but I want to address the problem of where our money goes.
Much play has been made of the fact that it will go to pay off old debts, as
though that were a completely negative pos
Ronald J. Hall wrote:
>Mandrake has filed for bankruptcy...
>
>Follow this link... :-(
>
>http://lwn.net/Articles/20061/
>
>
>
how much longer will newbie exist I wonder ?
john
It seems to me with my limited insight to the true nature of the
situation that the future of Mandrake is one of 2 way
On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 21:59, Brandon Vanderberg wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 02:27, Vahur Lokk wrote:
> > On Thursday 16 January 2003 12:14, you wrote:
> >
> > > Getting rid of those debts is crucial - make no mistake about it - and
> > > cannot therefore be seen as a waste of our money.
> > >
>
On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 02:27, Vahur Lokk wrote:
> On Thursday 16 January 2003 12:14, you wrote:
>
> > Getting rid of those debts is crucial - make no mistake about it - and
> > cannot therefore be seen as a waste of our money.
> >
> Sure but if Bens financial info is correct, there is no way to do
On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 21:27, Vahur Lokk wrote:
> On Thursday 16 January 2003 12:14, you wrote:
>
> > Getting rid of those debts is crucial - make no mistake about it - and
> > cannot therefore be seen as a waste of our money.
> >
> Sure but if Bens financial info is correct, there is no way to do
On Thursday 16 January 2003 12:14, you wrote:
> Getting rid of those debts is crucial - make no mistake about it - and
> cannot therefore be seen as a waste of our money.
>
Sure but if Bens financial info is correct, there is no way to do it in few
next years. Saving the company is going to hurt
On Thursday 16 Jan 2003 9:41 am, Vahur Lokk wrote:
> On Thursday 16 January 2003 07:52, you wrote:
> > On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 21:39, Miark wrote:
> > > Despite today's date, he doesn't know what's going on with Mandrake's
> > > bankruptcy. He complains about the low value of boxed Linux-Mandrake,
>
On Thursday 16 January 2003 07:52, you wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 21:39, Miark wrote:
> > Despite today's date, he doesn't know what's going on with Mandrake's
> > bankruptcy. He complains about the low value of boxed Linux-Mandrake,
> > and say that Mandrake Club is useless and that votes mean
On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 23:05, Dennis Myers wrote:
> I find that an "opposing point of view" always helps me focus on my own
> perceptions and reasoning behind my point of view. This is one of those
> articles that helped me focus. I agree that the so called value of Mandrake
> Club is minimal fo
On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 21:39, Miark wrote:
> Despite today's date, he doesn't know what's going on with Mandrake's
> bankruptcy. He complains about the low value of boxed Linux-Mandrake,
> and say that Mandrake Club is useless and that votes mean nothing.
> He's suggesting mutiny against Mandrake be
003&t=00
Sascha Noyes
On Wednesday 15 January 2003 12:41 pm, Myers, Dennis R NWO wrote:
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ronald J. Hall
> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 11:02 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subj
On Wednesday 15 January 2003 23:44, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 11:28, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> > On Wednesday 15 January 2003 23:20, walt wrote:
> > > One problem is that if you do not have a debit or credit card, you can
> > > not join the Mandrake club. I am looking forward to the 9
On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 11:28, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> On Wednesday 15 January 2003 23:20, walt wrote:
> >
> > One problem is that if you do not have a debit or credit card, you can
> > not join the Mandrake club. I am looking forward to the 9.1 release and
> > plan on buying the power pack when it is
On Wednesday 15 January 2003 23:20, walt wrote:
>
> One problem is that if you do not have a debit or credit card, you can
> not join the Mandrake club. I am looking forward to the 9.1 release and
> plan on buying the power pack when it is released. I am also going to
> look into buying OTC stock i
On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 18:45, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> On Tuesday 14 January 2003 20:59, Miark wrote:
> > On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 09:41:39 -0800
>
> Any which way, this is not born out of luxury! It certainly doesn't attract
> investors.
>
> I've renewed my club silver-membership so often lately I don'
Same here. I just renewed this afternoon. Go Mandrake!
Miark
On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 12:37:31 -0600
Tom Brinkman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>_We_ can help. Join the Club, or if you're already a member, renew
> early. I did a few weeks ago, I'm confident Mandrake will continue.
>
> --
>
On Tuesday 14 January 2003 20:59, Miark wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 09:41:39 -0800
>
> "Myers, Dennis R NWO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The article says Chapter 11, so maybe they will be able to pull
> > themselves out of this mess
>
> Damn right. I don't see this as bad news at all. In fa
I think I will go and buy a bunch of stuff at the Mandrake store, cause if it
helps, great, and if they (we) disappear, it will be a good collectable.
> On Wednesday 15 Jan 2003 5:37 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
> > Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> > >Mandrake has filed for bankruptcy...
> > >
> > >Follo
I hope you were right.
> 1) It allows Mandrakesoft to _continue_ working, and
> 2) Without that immense debt burden, MDK will be able to work better
>than they did before.
>
> Good for them. Good for us!
>
> Miark
--
Francisco Alcaraz Ariza
Departamento de Biología Vegetal
Universidad de M
On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 09:41:39 -0800
"Myers, Dennis R NWO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The article says Chapter 11, so maybe they will be able to pull themselves
> out of this mess
Damn right. I don't see this as bad news at all. In fact, it's good
news because
1) It allows Mandrakesoft to
On Wednesday 15 Jan 2003 3:40 pm, Damian Gatabria wrote:
> > To me it sounds like business as usual except they have
> > the bill collectors off their butt.
>
> Right on. I was afraid i would get a "loonie" label in my forehead,
> but that is exactly what i was thinking about.
>
> Damian.
Rig
On Wednesday 15 Jan 2003 5:37 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
> Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> >Mandrake has filed for bankruptcy...
> >
> >Follow this link... :-(
> >
> >http://lwn.net/Articles/20061/
>
> how much longer will newbie exist I wonder ?
>
If it doesn't cost much to run it may well be seen as a
1/15/03 10:59:32 AM, Jody Cleveland
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Mandrake has filed for bankruptcy...
>
>So, now what...
>
>
To me it sounds like business as usual except they have
the bill collectors off their butt.
Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
Go to http://www
Title: RE: [newbie] Its official :-(
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ronald J. Hall
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 11:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Its official :-(
On Wednesday 15 January 2003 11:59
Ronald J. Hall wrote:
Mandrake has filed for bankruptcy...
Follow this link... :-(
http://lwn.net/Articles/20061/
how much longer will newbie exist I wonder ?
john
--
John Richard Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Go to http://www.mandrakest
On Wednesday 15 Jan 2003 H:30 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> Mandrake has filed for bankruptcy...
>
> Follow this link... :-(
>
> http://lwn.net/Articles/20061/
And on a more positive note
http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/press/briefs?n=/mandrakesoft/news/2405
--
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Wan
On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 11:54, et wrote:
> $hit.
Yes, it does suck green donkey.
> On Tuesday 14 January 2003 11:30 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> > Mandrake has filed for bankruptcy...
> >
> > Follow this link... :-(
> >
> > http://lwn.net/Articles/20061/
>
>
>
>
--LX
--
°°
On Wednesday 15 January 2003 11:59 am, Jody Cleveland wrote:
> > Mandrake has filed for bankruptcy...
>
> So, now what...
The article says Chapter 11, so maybe they will be able to pull themselves out
of this mess
--
More info
http://212.100.234.54/content/4/28859.html
On Wednesday 15 January 2003 4:30 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> Mandrake has filed for bankruptcy...
>
> Follow this link... :-(
>
> http://lwn.net/Articles/20061/
Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
Go to http://www.mandrake
> Mandrake has filed for bankruptcy...
So, now what...
Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
$hit.
On Tuesday 14 January 2003 11:30 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> Mandrake has filed for bankruptcy...
>
> Follow this link... :-(
>
> http://lwn.net/Articles/20061/
Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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